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Africa Horn
Ever wonder how the pirates board a supertanker?
Or why it is so easy for them to take over a ship?

Click the link and watch the video!
Posted by: gorb || 11/21/2008 03:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They're going to have to bite the bullet and start paying for security teams on ships.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/21/2008 8:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Some shipping companies are avoiding the Suez transit......
Posted by: crazyhorse || 11/21/2008 9:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Get some ex-military blackwater types on there and this shit will end very quickly.

Even have mobile teams that can load and unload from ships before they pass the Somali coast so the cargo ships are protected would work wonders.
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/21/2008 9:43 Comments || Top||

#4  1 predator
Posted by: Albert Spusotch7979 || 11/21/2008 10:48 Comments || Top||

#5  As a cheap escort "riding shotgun", I don't think a Predator can be beat AS7979.
Posted by: Minister of funny walks || 11/21/2008 13:17 Comments || Top||

#6  cant a predator hover and then walk down and shoot them all as opposed to run down and shoot that one.....
Posted by: Elmineck Lumplump9268 || 11/21/2008 14:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Get rid of the rails along the edges. Or make them break loose after about 30 seconds of tension . . . .
Posted by: gorb || 11/21/2008 17:06 Comments || Top||

#8  Meh, ships. Let's just fly in the oil.
Posted by: .5mt || 11/21/2008 18:25 Comments || Top||

#9  Oh how?
Zepplins!
Atomic Powered!
Small!
Thousands of dem.

Escorted by Q-blimps.
Posted by: .5mt || 11/21/2008 18:27 Comments || Top||

#10  Well, if we were cold blooded enouhg, issue letters of marque and repraisal.

$10K per pirate relative head. $100K per pirate head. Attached or not.

Find where the villages these come from, and raze them. Decimate the population. Repeat every time a ship is ransomed.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/21/2008 22:17 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
U.N. Council Approves Increase in Congo Peacekeepers
The United Nations Security Council voted unanimously Thursday to reinforce a beleaguered U.N. peacekeeping mission in the Congo, temporarily approving the deployment of more than 3,100 additional peacekeepers to help protect hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Posted by: Fred || 11/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More child molesting rapists brought to bear, beautiful.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 11/21/2008 2:39 Comments || Top||

#2  I doubt contributing governments will offer troops this time
Posted by: john frum || 11/21/2008 5:42 Comments || Top||


Rebel chief aims to take over the whole of DRC
(SomaliNet) In an interview published on Wednesday in Germany, Laurent Nkunda, the rebel chief whose armies have swept aside Congolese government forces, aims to take over the whole of the Democratic Republic of Congo. The DRC rebel chief told the weekly newspaper Die Zeit that under his leadership, the DR Congo would take over a seat representing Africa in the United Nations Security Council within five years.

Nunda's forces have won control in tracts of the east of the DR Congo. Nkunda, a Tutsi general, accused the government of failing the nation, "selling out the country to the Chinese" and co-operating with criminals.

He rebuffed criticism of atrocities by his forces, including one attack in January when 30 people were murdered, some of them with hammers, in a single village. "I cannot rule out that civilians sometimes get killed. Perhaps they get caught in the crossfire," he said.

Nkunda's National Congress for the Defence of the People (CNDP) has routed the Congolese army and seized control of territory in North Kivu province in recent weeks. Nkunda has previously warned that unless the government talks to him, his forces - believed to number between 4 000 and 6 000 - will brush aside the Congolese army and march on the capital Kinshasa.

The DR Congo accuses Rwanda of backing Nkunda, who says he is fighting to protect Tutsis from Hutu militia.
Posted by: Fred || 11/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Bangladesh
ACC to sue Zafarullah's wife, son
The Anti-Corruption Commission (ACC) yesterday approved filing of separate cases against three people including Awami League (AL) presidium member Kazi Zafarullah's wife Nilufa Zafarullah and their son Kazi Omar Zafar in connection with concealing wealth information from the commission and amassing wealth illegally.
Posted by: Fred || 11/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Ex-MPs Lalu, Shahjahan make bail
The High Court (HC) yesterday granted three months' ad interim bail to former BNP lawmaker Helaluzzaman Talukder Lalu and former Jamaat-e Islami lawmaker Shahjahan Chowdhury.
Posted by: Fred || 11/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Caribbean-Latin America
Democracy in Nicaragua In Peril, Ortega Critics Say
The U.S. Embassy has been accused of counterrevolutionary subversion. A nervous Catholic Church is appealing for calm. The opposition party is crying electoral fraud, while roaming gangs armed with clubs are attacking marchers. The mayor here has called it anarchy. And everyone is asking: What is President Daniel Ortega after?

This sounds more like the Central America of the 1980s. But Ortega, the former Marxist revolutionary comandante who returned to the president's office in 2006, is at the center of a chaotic new struggle. Critics charge that he and Nicaragua, the poorest country in Central America, are marching backward, away from relatively peaceful, transparent, democratic elections to ones that are violent, shady and stolen.

The Nov. 9 elections and their disputed results -- for 146 mayoralties, including that of Managua, the capital -- have become a crucial test for the Sandinista National Liberation Front and Ortega, its leader, who seeks to consolidate his power in Nicaragua and enhance his standing as a founder of the "pink tide" of left-leaning governments flowing across Latin America. In the months leading to the vote, Ortega and the Sandinistas cracked down on their critics and revived old antagonisms between the United States and the former revolutionaries.
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Posted by: Fred || 11/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The Fat One," also wants to return to power, though Aleman is a convicted money launderer and embezzler.

So when did that become a crime in the region?
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/21/2008 7:29 Comments || Top||

#2  I love how communist groups always have names with words like 'liberation', 'people's' or 'Free' in them.
Skimming over Daily Kos, those burnt out bunnies think their way will 'set our country free', even if they have to create a police state to do it.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/21/2008 8:32 Comments || Top||

#3  bigjim, nah....they don't believe it either. They just think that they are gonna be the ones on top when the revolution comes, never the ones up against the wall.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 11/21/2008 9:36 Comments || Top||

#4  "...electoral fraud, while roaming gangs armed with clubs are attacking..."

Community organizers, no doubt.
Posted by: Minister of funny walks || 11/21/2008 13:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Meanwhile our president-elect and and his fellow democrats ignore event in Nicaragua, Venezuela and Ecuador and spend their time attacking Columbia, a functioning democracy.
Posted by: DoDo || 11/21/2008 14:28 Comments || Top||

#6  The Nov. 9 elections and their disputed results -- for 146 mayoralties, including that of Managua, the capital -- have become a crucial test for the Sandinista National Liberation Front and Ortega, its leader, who seeks to consolidate his power in Nicaragua and enhance his standing as a founder of the "pink tide" of left-leaning governments flowing across Latin America.

Looks like it might be time for Jimmy Carter to fly on down for a whitewash job. Call him, Danny. He's probably still in your Rolodex.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/21/2008 16:47 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russia demands Ukraine clear debt
Russian leader obligates the energy giant Gazprom to collect the USD 2.4 billion debt it is owed by Ukraine even if done in a 'compulsory manner'.
Posted by: Fred || 11/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


China-Japan-Koreas
We all expect workers' active participation
Hai!
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/21/2008 05:10 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  According to the article, Japan's long working hours are exceeded only by South Korea and the U.S. Yet here in the U.S. we don't have a birthrate problem. This suggests the companies haven't quite got the formula quite right; it isn't enough just to leave the office at something remotely resembling a reasonable time, the husbands must go straight home instead of hanging out in the bars until midnight, then stumbling off the train barely able to see the difference between floor and ceiling. Contrary to popular belief, dead drunk is not in the least sexy, however wonderful the person might be when sober. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/21/2008 9:35 Comments || Top||

#2  So they get off early, but they're still supposed to be 'on the job'.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/21/2008 10:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Actually, we do have the same birthrate problem in America - if you only count 'salarymen'. The overall birthrate is supported by higher numbers among the unemployed and underemployed, and the lower income levels where work is work and your real life is elsewhere.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/21/2008 10:26 Comments || Top||

#4  Actually, the reports from last year said that more Japanese men are using those life-like dolls rather than real women. If true, shows a bigger social problem than just being tired.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 11/21/2008 14:00 Comments || Top||

#5  The Japs have nothing on us 5839. The rubber bitch was invented by the American GI.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/21/2008 14:56 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Clinton Is Said to Opt for Secretary of State Position
h/t Drudge

Hillary Rodham Clinton has decided to give up her Senate seat and accept the position of secretary of state, making her the public face around the world for the administration of the man who beat her for the Democratic presidential nomination, two confidants said Friday.

Posted by: eltoroverde || 11/21/2008 15:30 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My opinion of her intelligence is taking a nose dive.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/21/2008 18:36 Comments || Top||

#2  You people will learn to love her Grom, altho you might yearn at times for Condi.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/21/2008 18:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Maybe she thinks a wren in the fist is better a pidgeon on the roof... but Obamarx is radioactive and when time comes that Obamarx is cooked, she'd be thrown in the pot too.

g(r)om, it is not her intelligence but a politician's integrity. Oxymoron? Yewbetcha! ;-)
Posted by: Spike Uniter || 11/21/2008 20:15 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
Muslims face bias of the 'turban effect': study
It turns out Islamophobia is no myth. Researchers in psychology and medicine have found that anti-Muslim sentiment is a very real phenomenon with potentially dire effects on safety and medical care.

During last week's United Nations interfaith dialogue, Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon singled out Islamophobia as "a new term for an old and terrible form of prejudice."

Simply appearing Muslim can increase aggressive tendencies towards Muslims a recent study published in the Journal of Experimental Psychology found. They termed this bias the "Turban Effect."
Posted by: Fred || 11/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Actually it's the "jihadi" effect.
Posted by: tipover || 11/21/2008 0:18 Comments || Top||

#2  You think maybe that business about ramming airliners into tall buildings and having suicide bombers target pizza parlors and shopping malls might have something to do with it?

Nah, couldn't be. It's just whitey being racist again. That's it, yeah.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 || 11/21/2008 2:17 Comments || Top||

#3  It goes without saying that Muslims are devoid of anti-anything "sentiment", lack any "form of prejudice", and have no "aggressive tendencies" whatsoever.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/21/2008 3:41 Comments || Top||

#4  If you see someone wearing a turban, chances are they are a Sikh
Posted by: Cherelet and Tenille1095 || 11/21/2008 5:29 Comments || Top||

#5  If muslim is blowing up a power plant, it's the
turbine effect.
Posted by: Mullah Lodabullah || 11/21/2008 5:32 Comments || Top||

#6  It happens when people pay attention.
Posted by: ed || 11/21/2008 7:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Maybe if they quit blowing shit up (?)....
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/21/2008 8:34 Comments || Top||

#8  Perhaps if they just wore baseball caps instead...
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/21/2008 9:20 Comments || Top||

#9  Let's have the UN do an "Infidel Enmity Study", OK?
Posted by: hammerhead || 11/21/2008 9:43 Comments || Top||

#10  Islanophobia implies that bias against islam and muslims is a psychological impairment. Call anti-muslim bias what it is. A rational objection to an objectionable religious/political worldview and group.
Posted by: Jeremiah Omuck5913 || 11/21/2008 11:02 Comments || Top||

#11  The man makes the suit. The suit is a way to make a first impression without saying anything and is based on a stereotype which of course is a generic set of values (right or wrong) based on experience with people who wear that suit. For example, every Bond has been sharped dressed - people have favorite Bond characters despite the suit yet the suit makes an actor automatically looked Bond-ish (also Jackie Chan in The Tuxedo). Suit = uniform style of dress whether military, gangster, yuppie, pizza delivery so forth.

Therefore if wearing a Turban makes a person look and therefore treated as a violent instead of a peacemaker (Buddhist, Nun garbs for example) or otherwise then you know what maybe there is a reason for that; that is the bias didn't come from a random dice roll. Maybe if the first turban wearers were handing out bags of mustard seed instead of tools of violence...wanna change that perception start with yourselves and it will take time - for a people who measure wars in generations it should be not problem to be peaceful for a single generation if the will is there.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/21/2008 12:17 Comments || Top||

#12  how about: I hate Slave owners? Does that cause cog dissonance, Ban? F*ck you and your corrupt org
Posted by: Frank G || 11/21/2008 19:52 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran aiming to perfect judicial system
Iranian top judge, Ayatollah Seyyed Mahmoud Shahroudi, says judicial security is a precondition for a sound legal system in the country.

Iran's judiciary chief said on Thursday that popular participation, promotion of culture, and creating the superstructure of a modern judicial system are all vital in helping to attain an improved judicial system.

The three major legal systems of the world consist of civil law, common law and religious law. However, each country often develops variations on each system or incorporates many other features into the system. The pivot of Iran's judicial system is Islamic law he said.

Shahroudi also called on 'all organizations' to work together to provide security for the society and put a damper on criminal activities. "People should be informed about their civil and economic rights by the mass media and the judicial system," underscored the judiciary chief.

In a comment in June, Shahroudi said that many countries are 'envious' of Iran's progress in the judicial arena, especially the attention it pays to finding justice. He said certain characteristics of the Islamic Republic's judicial system make Iran's judicial policies 'exemplary' throughout the world.

Addressing a group of judicial officials in Tehran, Shahroudi added that the Islamic Republic's judicial system is so comprehensive that some nations have sought Iran's assistance in establishing a judicial system of their own along similar lines.
Posted by: Fred || 11/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  The death penalty for parking tickets I presume.
Posted by: Last Breath Farm Resident || 11/21/2008 2:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Getting nervous having their judges regularly bumped off.
Posted by: ed || 11/21/2008 7:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Perfect the legal system?
Do they mean 100% conviction rate?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/21/2008 8:35 Comments || Top||

#4  They're going to show Judge Judy on Tehran TV?
Posted by: WilliamMarcyTweed || 11/21/2008 8:51 Comments || Top||

#5  "...many countries are 'envious' of Iran's progress in the judicial arena..."

Like North Korea and Belarus. They like the "justice" part, but not the mud-worshiping religion part.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/21/2008 9:08 Comments || Top||


Home Front Economy
Who says Irony is Dead: Bloomberg says, Cash 'Excellent Store of Value' (Video)
Posted by: phil_b || 11/21/2008 15:48 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sure. So's canned goods. Bottled water. Guns.
Maybe I'll send my resume to Bloomberg.com and be on the teevee...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/21/2008 16:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Get in on the ground floor of FUR.
Posted by: .5mt || 11/21/2008 18:29 Comments || Top||

#3  I strongly agree not only with the idea of being liquid right now, but not just relying on having your money in the bank, but in "mattress cash" as well. Income is not the issue, wealth preservation is. But it has to be where you can get to it, and nobody else can get to it.

Very quickly, a cash run on banks could deplete their currency stores, and virtual money in the bank could be frozen or nontransferable. Does anyone out there think in their wildest fantasies that if CITI folded, the FDIC could cover its collapse? If its share price drops below $5/share, a lot of pension funds and institutional investors are required to dump their shares. Aftermarket today, it closed at $4. Monday the hammer comes down.

(I just looked) Since late 2006, 304 major lending institutions have failed. The money in them either ceased to exist or was covered by the USG or other companies that took them over. With the folding of major corporations like GM, there is no way even the USG can cover those losses.

The risk of keeping a few thousand dollars at home in a safe place is very low, theft or fire. If inflation hits, you can spend it quickly. But if things hit the fan, you are covered.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/21/2008 20:23 Comments || Top||


New York Times cuts dividend, 'reevaluates' assets
That giant sucking sound that Pinchie hears is the drain ...
NEW YORK, Nov 20 (Reuters) - The New York Times Co slashed its dividend by almost three-quarters and said it would cut spending and reevaluate its assets to cope with a slump in advertising revenue that is gouging U.S. newspaper publishers. The Times cut its dividend to 6 cents a share from 23 cents a share, or 74 percent, and said in a statement that it would reduce capital spending and lower its operating costs.

The trustees of the Ochs-Sulzberger family's shares in the Times said they support the move, but called it difficult.
Makes it tougher to keep the house in the Hamptons ...
The family's statement amounts to a vote of confidence in the Times as buzz builds among industry watchers over whether the family would sell the company and The New York Times newspaper, ending more than a century of family ownership. The Ochs-Sulzberger family controls a special class of shares that give it more control over the company than non-family shareholders. The Times board also cut the dividend on the family's shares.

The company did not say whether it would cut jobs or whether it could sell newspapers or other properties. The company is under increasing pressure from declining advertising revenue and circulation as more people get their news online.

Cutting the dividend is important for the Times in a financial sense. It has about $1.1 billion of debt on its books as of its quarterly financial results in October, and a declining income stream to pay it off. It has $46 million in cash and cash equivalents.

"This was a difficult but necessary decision that will provide us with greater financial flexibility in these uncertain economic times," said Times Chairman and New York Times newspaper publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. Sulzberger said the company has weathered difficult periods by maintaining its promise to provide high-quality journalism, and would take these actions to keep doing that.

Speculation in the media world is rampant that the Times must sell off some of its properties. Two years ago, General Electric Co's former chief executive Jack Welch was part of a group that bid for The Boston Globe. The company has resisted efforts from several dissident shareholders to get rid of some of its properties.
And now it's too late. Who'd want the Globe now? At any price? Who'd want the other newspapers? They're dying. The time to sell was five years ago. Now they're stuck trying to move the papers to the internet. It's not going to work because there is too much competition for them on the net, both in terms of news aggregation and in terms of advertising revenue. Why pony up for a Times electronic subscription when you can surf something like Google News and find the news for free?
The Times, which also owns other U.S. daily papers around the country, also reported a 9.4 percent drop in revenue from continuing operations. Ad revenue fell 16.2 percent, while circulation revenue climbed 3.9 percent.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/21/2008 11:16 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ha ha!
Posted by: newc || 11/21/2008 12:04 Comments || Top||

#2  "All the News That's Schit to Print"
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/21/2008 12:51 Comments || Top||

#3  No, no Besoeker its:

"All the News That's Schit to WE Print"

There fixed it for you.
Posted by: AlanC || 11/21/2008 12:58 Comments || Top||

#4  I think the NYT still has some very good reporters - but they hamper them with a lot of PC BS, plus horrible editorial oversight. There is a market in this country for a conventional - but national - newspaper, unfortunately the NYPravda is not that paper anymore.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/21/2008 13:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Johnson, you know what to do!
Posted by: .5MT || 11/21/2008 13:25 Comments || Top||

#6  This dividend cut is actually a good (and long overdue) move. It means they no longer have to borrow money just to pay it. NYT has a great franchise, but has been so badly run, from a financial perspective, that their results stink to high heaven.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/21/2008 13:58 Comments || Top||

#7  Here's to seeing that traitorous cow dying soon! Good riddance, and may posterity forget ye were our countrymen.
Posted by: Rob06 || 11/21/2008 15:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Sounds bad. Pinchy might haveta give up his crack whore weekends in the Hamptons...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/21/2008 16:42 Comments || Top||

#9  Pinchy: Johnson, you're fired! I want your desk and office cleaned out and be out of here in an hour.

Johnson: Can do, Boss!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/21/2008 16:48 Comments || Top||

#10  Actually the New York Times (paper) is horribly run and has squandered its reputation for quality. The NYT (company) did better financially by purchasing smaller and local papers (My mom's paper in Sarasota is owned by the NYT).

These smaller papers were more concerned with local news and better plugged in with local advertizers. In effect the smaller papers were subsidizing the "mother ship".

Unfortunately, Pinch has managed to screw up his flagship paper so badly that even his smaller papers can't save him. He's going to have to sell off his profitable papers to raise cash to keep the New York Fishwrap going. Watch him go the way of GM (only without the bailout).
Posted by: Frozen Al || 11/21/2008 16:48 Comments || Top||

#11  I read recent numbers that said they have $450 M in short term debt they can't pay back. If so, bankruptcy within a few months.
Posted by: Cynicism Inc || 11/21/2008 18:25 Comments || Top||

#12  Bankruptcy at least.
What's worse than bankruptcy?
Whatever it is, that's them.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/21/2008 18:28 Comments || Top||

#13  congress will save them.
Posted by: Hellfish || 11/21/2008 18:46 Comments || Top||

#14  put their staff out for hires as prostitutes. It's no worse than they've done for the DNC and Obama, they'll meet a better clientele, and they'll actually bring in some coin. Except for Mo Dowd, no John would want that bitter skank
Posted by: Frank G || 11/21/2008 19:45 Comments || Top||

#15  Steve, I think you're wrong. General Electric could run the Globe as a loss leader propaganda outlet, just like they do PMSNBC and NBC (and all of their other channels.)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/21/2008 21:54 Comments || Top||


Citibank swirls drain
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Citigroup Inc lost more than one-quarter of its market value on growing worries over whether it has enough capital to withstand billions of dollars of potential losses and despite new support from its largest individual investor. The second-largest U.S. bank by assets is looking at options now, including a sale of parts of the company or a merger with another firm, after its stock fell 50 percent this week, a person familiar with the matter said on Thursday.

Discussions so far have been internal, and some options --such as entering into a merger where other executives end up running the company -- are unpalatable to managers at Citigroup, the person said. The bank's board of directors is set to meet on Friday, and Morgan Stanley is not considering a possible bid, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Citigroup did not comment on the report, repeating that it has a "very strong capital and liquidity position" and is focused on a strategy that will generate benefits "over time." Morgan Stanley did not immediately return a call for comment.

Earlier Thursday, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal said he plans to increase his stake in Citigroup to 5 percent from less than 4 percent, calling its shares "dramatically undervalued." Alwaleed expressed "full and complete support" for management, including Pandit, who said this week the bank will slash 52,000 jobs and 20 percent of expenses.

Investors were unimpressed, and drove the bank's shares below $5, a level not seen since 1994. The market value of Citigroup has fallen $48.7 billion this month alone.

Citigroup is not seeking any government financial aid, and is not seeing any unusual business activity, a person close to the bank said. But government aid may have to be part of any deal for Citigroup, investors said. Raising capital, whether through a share sale or selling businesses, would be difficult in the current environment.

Citigroup "will get bailed out, and that's another unfortunate strain on the U.S. government," said Saj Karim, an investment adviser at Cannacord Capital in Waterloo, Ontario. The government may look to augment the $25 billion it injected last month from a $700 billion industry rescue package. The bank has raised another $50 billion since the middle of 2007.

Analysts said the bank could face more than $20 billion in losses in 2009 on commercial real estate, credit cards and emerging markets, as the world economy sinks into recession.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/21/2008 11:15 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Does this mean I can stop paying my credit card off? Because I'd hate for all that money go to waste.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 11/21/2008 13:57 Comments || Top||


Oil below $50
Oil sank below $50 a barrel, reaching its lowest point since May 2005 amid fears over the outlook for demand in the face of a global recession. The drop in oil prices led a broader retreat in raw materials, with the Reuters-Jefferies CRB commodity index, a global benchmark, falling to a five-year low. December West Texas Intermediate fell $4 to $49.62 a barrel.

January WTI traded $4.68 lower at $49.42 a barrel. ICE January Brent dropped $3.64 to $48.08. "Oil prices are searching for an elusive bottom," said Antoine Halff of Newedge brokerage in New York. "Demand destruction today rivals that caused by the oil shocks of the 1970s."

The options market is pricing in a growing likelihood that oil prices could sink as low as $40-$45 a barrel before the end of the year, with the cost of insuring against such an event jumping more than 90 per cent overnight.
Posted by: Fred || 11/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  From what I hear, the only thing selling in the U.S. right now is guns and ammo. Those items the gun shops have lines out the door to sell.

Preparations for the Obamanation, no doubt.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 || 11/21/2008 2:54 Comments || Top||

#2  No shit. I went into my local gunshop to pick up some shells and a cleaning kit and that tiny little basement shop was crowded wall-to-wall. The shells were insanely overpriced, but I still got 'em.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 11/21/2008 12:41 Comments || Top||

#3  "The best time to shop for December gifts was in August. Remember: shop smart, shop S-Mart."
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/21/2008 13:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Academy here had plenty and our locker is now full.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/21/2008 13:26 Comments || Top||

#5  In'shallah.
Posted by: borgboy || 11/21/2008 15:25 Comments || Top||

#6  My gun dealer just called to tell me my Remington Model 1100 TAC-4 just arrived.
Posted by: Jeack Smith2280 || 11/21/2008 15:36 Comments || Top||

#7  I've heard nothing of my personal MOAB.

(the Usual AB tkz)
Posted by: .5mt || 11/21/2008 18:32 Comments || Top||


China now largest holder of US Treasury bonds
China is now officially the US government's largest foreign creditor after overtaking Japan, in a development that signals Washington's increasing reliance on Beijing to save its economy. China became the largest foreign holder of US Treasuries, owning 585 billion dollars worth as of September, according to US Treasury Department figures.

But, analysts warned Wednesday, neither country should be celebrating the development, which underlines serious imbalances in the global economy.

"China's GDP per capita ranks around 100th in the world but it is actually subsidising the world's richest country," said Zhang Ming, an economist with the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, a government think-tank in Beijing. Zhang argued that becoming the largest foreign holder of US Treasuries is only an illustration of how serious the imbalances are in China's overly export-driven economy, rather than an indicator of its strength.
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Posted by: Besoeker || 11/21/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes, and the American consumer is the only thing standing between Beijing and its first major social experiment in a massive economic downturn. After you entice literally millions off the farms and into urban dwelling, what's going to happen when the jobs start to evaporate? Been there, seen it, done it. May you live in interesting times if you want to play this game.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/21/2008 9:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Do we really need the money that badly?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 11/21/2008 10:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Well, we don't, but the Donks do to assuage their clients.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/21/2008 11:21 Comments || Top||

#4  For their sake I hope congress gave them the 3-ply aloe brand.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/21/2008 12:59 Comments || Top||

#5  We should have "unleashed Chiang Kai shek" when we had the chance...and MacArthur too...
Posted by: borgboy || 11/21/2008 15:28 Comments || Top||

#6  The Red Chineese would have whipped both their asses. The evidence for that is that the Red Chineese whipped both their asses.

Wish the damn PT boats had left his ass on Corregidor to fight with his command.


Posted by: .5MT || 11/21/2008 18:37 Comments || Top||



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