The drugs used to execute prisoners in the United States sometimes fail to work as planned, causing slow and painful deaths that probably violate constitutional bans on cruel and unusual punishment, a new medical review of dozens of executions concludes. More funding! More research!
Even when administered properly, the three-drug lethal injection method appears to have caused some inmates to suffocate while they were conscious and unable to move, instead of having their hearts stopped while they were sedated, scientists said in a report published Monday by the online journal PLoS Medicine. My dog only got one drug, and she didn't seem to suffer....
No scientific groups have ever validated that lethal injection is humane, the authors write. Medical ethics bar doctors and other health professionals from taking part in executions.
The study concluded that the typical "one-size-fits-all" doses of anesthetic do not take into account an inmate's weight and other key factors. Some inmates got too little, and in some cases, the anesthetic wore off before the execution was complete, the authors found. Did any of them get too much? I say the study's incomplete.
"You wouldn't be able to use this protocol to kill a pig at the University of Miami" without more proof that it worked as intended, said Teresa Zimmers, a biologist there who led the study. How many pigs would expire in your gathering of proof, Teresa? Would any of them suffer? Did any of them murder their fellow pigs?
The journal's editors call for abolishing the death penalty, writing: "There is no humane way of forcibly killing someone." Tell that to the criminals, moron.
Lethal injection has been adopted by 37 states as a cheaper and more humane alternative to electrocution, gas chambers and other execution methods. But 11 states have suspended its use after opponents alleged it is ineffective and cruel. The issue came to a head last year in California, when a federal judge ordered that doctors assist in killing Michael Morales, convicted of raping and murdering a teenage girl. Doctors refused, and legal arguments continue in the case.
In 2005 alone, at least 2,148 people were killed by lethal injection in 22 countries, especially China, where fleets of mobile execution vans are used, the editors write, citing Amnesty International figures. Of the 53 executions in the United States in 2006, all but one were by lethal injection.
That report was criticized for its methodology, which relied on blood samples taken from prisoners hours after executions.
The journal article, which is open access, is here.
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Guess we'll just have to go back to hanging, then.
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But 11 states have suspended its use after opponents alleged it is ineffective and cruel.
Another example of the imperial judiciary and their anti-democratic allies ignoring what the Founders meant by cruel and unusual. Remember a 'living' constitution is just another way of saying "we're making this up as we go along" and the "constitution" is just a term or icon for the exercise of power. They want to terminate the death penalty no matter how great the wishes of the people are. Lip service to democracy or representative government.
What was the pain and suffering of the criminal's victims? That is the only measure of concern involved in these cases.
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I recall when greenies and anti-death penalty (except in the case of inconveniently timed, unborn baby) advocates held up an gas chamber execution at San Quentin by claiming the toxic emissions violated EPA standards.
My proposed solution was to install another seat, thereby cutting emissions in half, like, today. Put Charlie Manson in the other seat.
Win-win-win, baby!
Anybody want to take a shot at world hunger this afternoon?
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I'm probably cutting across the grain here but in light of the more "civilized" delivery methods, I don't support the death penalty. As I see it, the problem with the death penalty is that those who committ capital crimes seem to place little, if any, value on their own life nowadays. This has rendered the death penalty, and it's currently favored delivery methods, an inaqequate deterrent.
I think those who commit a capital crime would be better deterred with a more tangible punishment than death. The problem with capital punishment is that you lose your life but there's no pain involved, relatively speaking and the contents of this article not withstanding. In order to deter crime, it is essential that the criminal explicitly understand the price for committing it, and that price should be very high for capital crimes, naturally. People who committ capital crimes usually have little to live for anyways, so losing their own life ranks relatively low on the price scale.
I believe a life sentence of back-breaking hard labor with no creature comforts to speak of might actually prove more effective. In my opinion, it would be more tangible to a criminal who doesn't place a high value on their own life much less those of others.
The question becomes, what do you do to a convict who refuses to work? I'm still working on an answer to that one.
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The journal's editors call for abolishing the death penalty, writing: "There is no humane way of forcibly killing someone."
Just like there's no "humane way" for me to force rotten leftovers down my garbage disposal. What's the point here? Whatever few moments of pain an executed convict experiences no matter how excruciating is as nothing compared to the lifetime of pain that the survivors of a murdered relative undergo. One must outweigh the other lest we lose all value for human dignity.
My only problem with the death penalty is that it takes too long to carry out and costs so much to implement. Machiavelli once mentioned how capital punishment must be applied swiftly such that public outrage over the criminal act would not have time to subside.
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Strap them down, put an air mask over their face, and fill it with helium. They'll never know what hit them because they'll pass out very suddenly with no discomfort or pain after about 15 seconds. I suppose they'd stop breathing after a minute, and then be brain dead in another five. Anybody who doesn't like it can try it for themselves.
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In a 'civilized state' there'd be no murders. A little history. Back when the king was trying to establish his and a central authority, the state stepped into the process commonly referred to as vendetta. An eye for an eye, a brother for a brother. To end the cycle of violence among its citizenry, the state assumed responsibility of justice by retaining the death penalty in criminal cases as a third disinterested party. If the state today refuses to carry out its obligation because it feels it is 'uncivilized', then expect the citizens to seek redress elsewhere and the return of vendetta. Ever read Romeo and Juliet? Ever see the first scenes from the Godfather? Notice the gang turf killings in the news? Vendetta is only held in check until the people figure out that there are other alternatives to dealing through the state.
MELBOURNE, Fla. -- A Brevard County doctor dressed up in a Captain America outfit was arrested with a burrito in his tights. What he allegedly did at the police station got him into more trouble. On Saturday night, when a costume party full of medical professionals stopped at On Tap Cafe, police said [Raymond] Adamcik had a burrito stuffed below the waistband of his costume and was asking women if they want to touch it. When one refused, he allegedly took out the burrito and groped her. All together now: Is that a burrito in your tights, or are you just glad to see me?
The woman called police and, when they arrived, the officers wrote in their report "there were so many cartoon characters in the bar at the time, all Captain America's were asked to go outside for a possible identification." Will the dancing Captain Americas wait over there? We are only seeing the singing Captain Americas.
The woman pointed out Adamcik and the burrito was found in his boot. Is this the burrito that attacked you, ma'am?
No, officer. That one had sour cream.
[OK, OK. Sorry! Sorry, everyone! Sorry.]
He was taken to the police station. There, while in a holding cell, police said, he asked to use the bathroom and tried to flush a joint, also hidden in his blue tights, down the toilet. "The officer observed him try to flush something into the toilet. He tried to flush it. The officer was able to reach inside and grab part of what he tried to flush," said Jill Frederiksen, Melbourne Police Department. Here, you! What's that you've got? Let me see tha--ewwww!
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I'm wondering about this burrito. Allegedly he stuffed it down his pants, then brandished it at a couple women, and finally put it in his boot. Now, your average burrito just can't take that kind of punishment. Does the burrito have superpowers? Was it irradiated in a terrible lab accident?
Or maybe it's a milspec burrito, with Gore-Tex tortilla and combat-capable lettuce. Are refried beans permitted under the Geneva Conventions? Enquiring minds, etc.
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"Now, your average burrito just can't take that kind of punishment."
Maybe not, but my carnitas con habanero salsa muerte (AKA Agent Orange) super burrito with Jalapeño Jack cheese and rajas en escabeche can sure dish it out.
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Great, now she can look forward to an entire lifetime of being a mal-adjusted, socially unskilled, lawer who had no childhood.
I knew a kid like this when I was in junior college.
He was 16 and a junior in psychology. His father was a professor. I always wondered what the big hurry was, and why he couldn't just let his kid grow up the way everyone should. Needless to say, the kid was strange. Very strange. I'd love to see him today, I'll bet he's the department head of psych in some little junior college nobody has ever heard of. Just like his father.
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That's nothing. There are people graduating with degrees in Koranic Studies that are younger than this. And that's just about as realistic as social psychology.
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Reading the article, it sounds like she really is that gifted intellectually. Eight AP courses (generally equalling three semesters of work at the university level, credit given for two semesters; it's highly probable at least a third of those classes were hard sciences and mathematics) plus an equal number of courses taken at the local college -- plus the normal high school curriculum likely completed in her freshman year -- all completed by the end of her junior year in high school? If she weren't allowed to continue, she's exactly the type to drop out and become an autodidact. The only problem is that her social skills likely match her chronological age, or less, not her intellectual ability. But that would be so whether or not she's allowed to move on early, and this keeps her happily busy instead of bitter at the world. We don't want another genius Luddite sending bombs through the mail to professors he thinks are wrong.
Bigjim-ky, I only hope your little friend went on to do research, as he clearly wasn't fit for anything resembling the real world.
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Then there is Amobi Okoye who is graduating from Louiville at 19 after starting at 15. He was majoring in biology. He later switched his major to psychology, in order to graduate a semester early. Which will allow him to be a first round NFL draft pick as a 6'2" 302 lb. defensive tackle.
Quite a story for a kid that immigrated from Nigeria at 10.
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Angie dear, I'm not fit for the real world, either. That's one of many reasons I'm not a psychotherapist... or a professor. (Admittedly, psychotherapy and professing are two of the many, many professions I did not go into, but the point still stands.) The problem with being entirely self-taught is that one tends to miss the absolutely critical bits that aren't written down in the books. Spinoza, for instance, derived Judaism from reading the Catholic Old Testament in Spain, and so the beliefs he developed were in many ways unconnected with the beliefs and practices of the Jewish congregation he joined when he moved to Amsterdam... hence his rejection of all faith in favour of atheism.
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TW - your comment on Spinoza is timely for me because I just happen to be reading an article about him in the New York Review of Books - a magazine which I still enjoy unless the articles are about politics (in which case, many times I can't resist the temptation to yell at the magazine while reading).
I want to tell you that I love reading your comments, and want to thank you for always adding interesting viewpoints about the subject under discussion. Let me disclose that a friendly remark you once made to me, in one of my first comments here at Rantburg, made me see this site as more than just a place to learn some new facts, but a real community of wonderful people trying to help each other understand. It's a superb example of the glory of Western civilization and why it is so important for it to be preserved.
So, thank you, TW. (It may be too late in the day for you to read this, but it's a thought I won't mind repeating sometime in the future)
WEWAHITCHKA, Fla. (AP) - An owner of an exotic animal farm has died after being kicked and then sat on by a camel. Cathie Ake and the 4-year-old camel were being filmed by a local television station on Sunday when the camel kicked her and then sat down during a break in filming. The station was doing a story on Mini-Akers Exotic Animals, the 15-acre farm Ake owned with her husband.
Must be sweeps week.
Cathie Ake's husband, Donnie Ake, said he would find a new home for Polo, the camel, The News Herald of Panama City reported Tuesday. He believes the 1,800-pound animal was agitated by mating season.
The couple bought the camel at an auction three weeks ago and kept him in a 50 foot by 80 foot pen. ``My wife did a lot of rescue,'' Donnie Ake said. ``She wouldn't let an animal suffer. We might not have food in the house, but she made sure they had something to eat.''
I personally would have been having camel steaks ...
A reporter called 9-1-1 when Ake fell under the camel. A deputy and paramedics moved the camel and recovered Cathie Ake's body. ``To be honest with you, I don't think there's much that she could have done,'' said Gulf County Sheriff Dalton Upchurch.
Donnie Ake said he believes his wife either suffocated or was crushed by the animal. The Akes started their exotic animal farm nearly 10 years ago.
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she got humped?
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Biggest story outta Wewa in a long, long time. Talk about in the swamps...
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So these TV reporters did not lift a finger except to call 911 and left her to suffocate when they could have beaned the camel in the head with a 2x4 or shovel.
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The exact same thing happened to me at a book signing by Rosie O'Donnell. She, too, was agitated by mating season.
DRUNK Scots Guards stripped off to put on an X-rated display in just their world-famous bearskins and tunics for a shocking home video.
The brazen soldiers whose main duty is guarding the Queen shamelessly expose themselves to the camera and dance half naked while swigging from bottles of Buckfast and cider.
The men, all thought to be from Glasgow, fondle each other dressed in nothing but their prestigious uniform and socks.
And in another X-rated clip shot at their Chelsea barracks in London last Friday the guard filming his three kinky colleagues performs a lewd sex act on one of them and spanks their bare backsides.
Last night furious top brass had identified the four F-Company squaddies behind the disturbing display.
And furious colleagues are demanding they now be kicked out the forces for disgracing their proud uniform.
One insider last night said: These guys have brought shame to the regiment and should be booted out.
Our regiment is one of the most famous in the world. Our uniform is one of the most recognised in the world.
We are supposed to be one of the most disciplined regiments in the entire Army but these guys have made us look like fools.
We feel let down by them and they should be shown the door.
The insider revealed how the four men had gone boozing together after their shift finished last Friday.
Alcohol is banned from their London barracks, but the shamed squaddies managed to sneak in bottles of Buckfast and cider.
The drunken guards are later filmed dancing in a circle and flashing at each other in the bombshell video.
The source added: What will people think when they see male soldiers of the British Army spanking each other?
It gets even worse when you see one of them grabbing his colleagues willy.
They are a disgrace and not fit to wear the uniform.
The Scots Guards are one of the most famous regiments in the Army and their bearskins and red tunics are recognised by tourists from around the world.
F-Company an independent sub-unit of the Scots Guards perform ceremonial duties outside Buckingham Palace and were involved in the Queen Mothers funeral.
Last night an Army spokeswoman described the four squaddies antics as horseplay.
She said: This is high spirits and horseplay by young soldiers which we do not condone.
They have been identified and will be dealt with.
Mexico City lawmakers voted 46-19 to legalize abortion Tuesday, a decision likely to influence policies and health practices across Mexico and other parts of heavily Roman Catholic Latin America. The proposal will take effect when the leftist mayor signs it.
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Destroying innocent life in the name of "progress" -- it's what Leftists do.
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The dropping Mexican birth rate should drop more quickly now, between the babies who didn't get to be born alive and the women made sterile by poorly done procedures. But Mexican hoteliers should wax rich on the women who come to Mexico City from all over the country.
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The real test will be if younger, rich Mexican women still come up for "shopping trips". They're not going to let themselves get butchered, no way, no how.
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No guarantees here in the US either - US Abortion clinics tend to be the least regulated medical practices in the country. Sterility is not observed, the abortionist has no emergency equipment on hand (not required by law for fear in preventing an abortionist from working due to farcing them to observe things normal medical practices demand), has no practice privileges at nearby hospitals if complications develop, etc.
Couple that with the fact the fewer and fewer US medical personnel (nurses, med techs, and doctors) are willing to participate, support and perform those procedures (elective abortions), abortion is becoming less and less viable in the US - and the abortion industry is dodging questions about the safety and so on of their practices.
As for Mexico - the Catholics down there have just gotten started. Some politicians are due for an ousting.
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One other thing to think about: how many pro-life medical people convert to pro-abortion? Few if any. How many covert the other way? Many well documented cases. Know why? keep reading if you have the stomach for it.
The most common 1st trimester procedure is suction and curettage. I've seen one, and that, more than anything, turned me completely Pro Life, long before I converted to Christianity and Catholicism.
Something about seeing a fetus's arms and legs ripped off and sucked out, and little hands and feet smaller than a pencil eraser floating in a bloody "collection jar" that turns people against the procedure. And yes it is that sickening, and its done millions of times a year for the convenience of the 'mother'. Don't like the description? Too bad - thats what you support when you support "choice". Be aware of what you support - those on the left deny it, just like they deny the bloodbath they causes in Cambodian and Vietnam, and the coming one they will cause in Iraq.
Anyway, just those numbers alone suggest the marketplace may solve what the lawmakers refuse to and what the courts usurped.
The new Miss Sweden, 20-year-old Isabel Lestapier Winqvist, risks losing her title following revelations that she once appeared in men's magazine FHM. Lestapier Winqvist, who saw off nine other contestant's in Saturday's final, will learn of her fate late on Tuesday afternoon.
For the last two years, the New Miss Sweden contest has been organized by Panos Papadopoulos. Having bought the rights, Sweden's 'swimwear king' gave the concept a full makeover after feminists alleged that the competition was outdated and sexist. Panos Emporio's founder soon set about updating the 60 year old event to make it more compatible with modern values.
The beauty pageant of old was duly replaced by a professional recruitment process to find a positive role model for young Swedes. The winner would be employed on a full-time to represent Sweden for the year following her victory.
Kool photo and balance of the article at the link.
A crash last week involving a Swedish Air Force fighter plane was probably caused by the pilot's G-suit, an investigation has shown. In the crash, which happened last Wednesday in a sparsely populated area of the northern Swedish county of Norrbotten, a pilot ejected from his Gripen plane, which then smashed into the ground below.
Following the findings, a flight ban on Swedish Gripen planes has been lifted, although planes in C/D class, similar to that involved in the crash, are forbidden from exceeding 3g. "This means that they may not undertake advanced flying, such as interception. For the older classes, A and B, there are no restrictions," said Mats Helgesson, head of flight at the Swedish Armed Forces central command.
The armed forces wrote in a statement that according to evidence so far gathered by investigators, it was "very likely" that the pilot's G-suit had caused the crash. The pilot said immediately after the crash that he had not activated the ejector seat himself. "When subjected to large forces the suit fills with air. This is thought to have affected the ejector switch," Helgesson said.
Pulling a tight turn, doing your grunting exercise, suit inflates to compensate and "BANG" , you're sitting in the air wondering "Hey, where'd my plane go?"
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...I want to see the ejection seat that is positioned just right and is so sensitive that an inflating G-suit will trigger it.
EVERY e-seat I've ever seen has a handle either on the front of the seat between the pilot's calves, in the armrests, or above his head. These handles require a pulling motion to activate them, not a pushing or turning, for the simple reason that it is just way to easy to activate the seats in that fashion.
Mike
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The later model Martin-Baker ejection seats have the ejection handle at the pilot's crotch. Guess it's easier to reach than the ones at the calf or head if the pilot is injured or in a violent spin.
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Kinda makes me wonder what is the pull length of the handle if an inflating bladder can set it off.
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seems a bit of a reach to me also; the connecting tube for the g suit goes typically to a connector on a side console, well away from any e-linkage or handles so any movement would be very unlikely to cause the ejection. Many years ago, in a trusty Intruder, the B/N (bombadier / naviguesser) partially ejected; one of the fittings on the Martin Baker corroded and failed, allowing the seat to ride up the rails about 6 or 7 inches. the strikers on top broke the canopy and the BN was exposed to the windstream from the neck up. the wind ripped the drogue chute from the pack and it wrapped around the horizontal stabilizer. Pilot did a superb job recovering back on the boat and not allowing his partner to get shredded by the sharp plexiglass edges on the leading edge of the hole in the canopy. perhaps the seat on this aircraft suffered a mechanical failure some sort and triggered the ejection sequence. the A-6 seat, was estimated to be only about one inch away from rocket motor actuation. (for the doubters: google up VA -95, bn ejection)
I've seen the official investigation pics of that - one of the items I helped care for and feed during my time was ejection seat catapults and all the other associated explosives. That is one of the more unbelievable explosives accidents I've ever seen.
Now - went to the Martin-Baker site (the world's premier manufacturer of ejection seats and builder of the seats for the Gripen). The page for the seat has a pic that clearly shows a PULL handle on the seat pan between the pilot's legs:
Now how the heck was that activated by an inflating G-suit?
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Mike: I agree, that the gsuit theory is right out there with the second gunman on the grassy knoll; there is more to this than meets the eye and methinks they want to pilot to be blamed.
PAX River lost a Hornet to an 'impossible' design flaw in the 91-94 time frame; had to do with a stretched wire (due to airframe flex) that caused a computer to shut down a hydraulic system that was operating; the only one as it turned out since the other failed.
Spinal Tap is back, and this time the band wants to help save the world from global warming. The mock heavy metal group immortalized in the 1984 mockumentary, "This is Spinal Tap," will reunite for a performance at Wembley Stadium in London as part of the Live Earth concerts scheduled worldwide for July 7.
The original members of Spinal Tap will be there: guitarist Nigel Tufnel (played by Christopher Guest), singer David St. Hubbins (Michael McKean) and bassist Derek Smalls (Harry Shearer). Rob Reiner, who both directed "This is Spinal Tap" and played the fake documentarian Marty DeBergi in the film, will also be in attendance.
A new 15-minute film directed by Reiner on the band's reunion will also play at the opening night of the Tribeca Film Festival in New York on Wednesday. The slate for the opening gala, to be hosted by Al Gore, was previously announced, excepting the Reiner short.
The festival is to open with a showing of several global warming-themed short films produced by the SOS (Save Our Selves) campaign. SOS is also putting on the Live Earth concerts, to be held across seven continents.
Reiner spoke to The Associated Press on Tuesday to explain the reunion of Spinal Tap a band always known more as a parody of rock `n roll excess than environmental awareness. "They're not that environmentally conscious, but they've heard of global warming," said Reiner, whose other films include "When Harry Met Sally" and "Stand By Me." "Nigel thought it was just because he was wearing too much clothing that if he just took his jacket off it would be cooler."
Spinal Tap has reunited several times since the film, but hasn't for a number of years. For the band whose last album was 1992's "Break like the Wind" the occasion warranted a new single: "Warmer Than Hell." Reiner provided a sneak peak at the lyrics: "The devil went to Devon, it felt like the fourth degree/ He said, `Is it hot in here, or is it only me?'"
The director said the new short film explains what the band has been doing with their lives lately. Nigel has been raising miniature horses to race, but can't find jockeys small enough to ride them; David is now a hip-hop producer who also runs a colonic clinic; and Derek is in rehab for addiction to the Internet.
Reiner, 60, has for over 20 years worked with the National Resources Defense Council, an environmental radical left-wing Soros-funded action organization. Though the Spinal Tap reunion will be a lot of laughs, he hopes the SOS short films program and the Live Earth concerts have a substantial effect. "What I think is going to be nice about this whole effort is there will be marching orders for people," said Reiner. "Not only from a personal standpoint of what individuals can do in their lives, but a macro perspective with respect to the public sector and government." When fantasy exceeds reality--the very heart of the global warming debate.
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So it is... but gee, it must be hard to be a satirist these days, when reality itself turns so bizarre.
You know, all the "glowball worming" hysteria is beginning to remind me of another sort of mass freak-out; the "satanic-child-molestation-at-day-care" hysteria of about 20 years ago. It's the same sort of shrieking hysteria, the same shouting-down of all the people who said "now just wait a darned minute", the same light-speed jumping to conclusions. Anyone else get the same vibe?
Absolutely, Sgt. Mom. Though I hadn't made the direct connection before you mentioned it. It's part-and-parcel of that fundamentalist mentality that brooks no doubt or discussion. And, at its core, environmentalism is just a substitute religion for most of its adherents.
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Hopefully Tap will play their wonderful "Stinking up the Great Outdoors" off the Break like the Wind album.
Having said that, apparantly the copyright on some of the Tap stuff is odd and they have to appear in some endevour as Tap every so often to renew it. So said the audio commentary on the DVD at least.
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Reminds me, the Brits are way Way WAY overdue for producing a new rock or metal film - Amer at least made HIGH INFIDELITY + FORD FAIRLANE, which TMK remain popular wid the college crowds.
A dramatic surge in the popularity of "urine therapy" in Cameroon has prompted the government to ban its consumption and threaten persistent offenders with jail. The health minister acted last week after a book about "urinotherapy", published in Switzerland, entered the best-seller list in Cameroon, prompting enthusiastic experimentation by readers.
One newspaper hailed urinotherapy as a universal cure-all which could tackle scores of afflictions, including cancer, snakebites and infertility. Testimonials to the benefits of urine consumption dominated radio phone-ins and the letters pages of newspapers. "I had haemorrhoids for five years and nothing gave me relief. But six months ago, I started drinking half a glass of my urine every morning and I am practically healed," a shopkeeper from the capital Yaounde wrote to Le Messager newspaper. A magistrate claimed: "For several years I haven't had a hair on my head, but since I started drinking my urine it's started growing again - it's extraordinary."
I dunno Fred, think it's worth it?
Omer Otabela telephoned a radio station with the story of his 80-year-old grandmother. "When she was bitten by a snake in the fields, she drank her own urine. This slowed down the progress of the venom to her heart until she got to hospital," he declared.
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Ahem, wel-l-l, besides these urban myths, in the 1960's - early 1970's urine was also said to be good for growing garden plants. Iff ya had to go, make Mom happy by pointing at her flowers.
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THe Chinese could hgave treted themselves with urine for centuries. Now what was teh life expectancy of Chinese?
Now little leftists who poke here (real rantburgers aren't stupid enough for believeing the urine BS) pay attention. There is areason to urinate: get rif of the toxic waste produced by body's activity. Don't drink urine.
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After thinking it bit more, here is a perrsonla message for leftists. FDrink urine. Lots of it. Drink as much as possible of it before Novemeber 2008.
Now, since urine is the result of the tissues being purified, and is what has been removed due to said purification, how can it be anything but toxins?
(For the "I hate allelopathic medicine and by extension, 'the man'" crowd, my apologies for hurting your tiny brains with logic in the above statement.)
And yet, there will be thousands, perhaps millions, of the alt medicine crowd who are so indoctrinated to hate Western medicine that they will literally believe anything that is not conventional, thinking that there is some "doctor's conspiracy" to keep the "little gal" from having something that can extend life/cure disease/create whirled peas/ etc.
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I'm now pleased to offer my latest product:
Beverage Grade Urine.
Fresh and Tasty, with a subtle hint of fine Kentucky bourbon.
Only 69.95 a pint-postage paid to the continental U.S.
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Well, there are some alternative therapies that work when western medicine just doesn't cut it, and even the AMA recognizes some of them. For example, acupuncture is very effective (for about 80% of people), for back pain and tinnitus (ringing in the ears), both of which are often frustratingly difficult to treat in western medicine.
It also offers several non-surgical alternatives, and can provide more comprehensive improvement to get someone 'in shape' for surgery.
The best applications for western medicine are emergency medicine and radiology, with genetic engineering on the horizon. Our "brute force" pharmacology has a lot of problems and is still pretty limited, but is growing by leaps and bounds.
As far as drinking urine goes, there may actually be something there, basically tricking the body. This is because some of the components of urine might be detected in the upper GI tract, where they are not supposed to be, which causes a chemical message to the liver and/or the kidneys that they are working too hard and need to settle down.
That is, the body is tricked into slowing liver and/or kidney function down some, which takes some of the stress off those organs.
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Well, the chemicals that make up Rogain were found in rat whizz.
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I've tried quite a few "alternative" medicines for chronic pain, and not found very many of them to have any effect at all. Chamomile tea does help me get to sleep when nothing else works, but doesn't affect the pain. Shark cartilage and chondroitin don't do much for degenerative disk disease or osteoarthritis, but does seem to help my bursitis. Placebo effect? I'd like to try accupuncture, but TRICARE doesn't cover it...
Urine is a fine anti-bacterial for cuts and scratches if nothing else is available, but drinking it? Ya gotta be kiddin!
Posted by: Old Patriot ||
04/25/2007 13:57 Comments ||
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They always say that if a spitting cobra gets you in the eye and you don't have a canteen, just have someone piss in your eye to wash out the venom. Urine from a healthy kidney is supposed to be sterile.
Me, I try to avoid being any place where a snake can spit in your eye.
Posted by: Steve ||
04/25/2007 14:41 Comments ||
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I doubt urine will do anything about a cobrtea spit (it acts by disturbing synapses) but it has an effect on medusa stings.
Something about iit being alcaline and medusa being acid.
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Steve White, I gotta Gold Mine! Each horse drinks between 10 and 20 gallons of water a day depending on how hot it is. Even if I get only 5 gallons per horse per day that's still 30 gallons. I wonder how much this stuff sells for.
Posted by: Deacon Blues ||
04/25/2007 16:50 Comments ||
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Thanks for the link, Seafarious. That was... informative.
Posted by: Dave D. ||
04/25/2007 17:02 Comments ||
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Sea - Ima disturbed you even knew about that link.
Posted by: Frank G ||
04/25/2007 20:03 Comments ||
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Old Patriot: Well, if you want to give acupuncture a spin anyway, there are acupuncturist M.D.s and acupuncture clinics. Depending on what you've got, if it is major, or you need a complex diagnosis, it is better to see an M.D. If it is a chronic problem and you know what works, the clinics are fine, and a lot less expensive.
Overall, I would say to give it a try.
My best experience with one was after I had wrenched the heck out of my back after blowing a tire--agony from the base of my skull to my tailbone for three days. After 15 minutes up on her table, pain gone.
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Old Patriot: Well, if you want to give acupuncture a spin anyway, there are acupuncturist M.D.s and acupuncture clinics.
Do it, Old Patriot. The first woman I ever lived with participated in Kaiser Permenante's groundbreaking study of acupuncture. She sharpened the needles and I still have one in my collection of scientific artifacts. The study was done in a full double blind fashion with control groups that received no treatment, groups that received counseling by an acupuncturist without treatment, other groups which received false treatment in the wrong locations and others that were treated properly.
The treatment was for dysmennoreah (i.e., menstrual cramps). Curiously enough, the best results were obtained with patients who believed in the efficacy of acupuncture, but (and this is a big but), overall, the correct treatment group showed significant improvement of symptoms over all other groups.
Most impressive to me was how the participating doctor treated my girlfriend for her persistent allergies to pet hair arising from my two white haired shepherd mutts. In less than two weeks her symptoms declined by over 90%. Part of her treatment involved a needle straight through the very tip of her nose.
She asked me about theories surrounding the origins of acupuncture. I already knew that historical accounts portrayed its discovery as arising from a Chinese duke being wounded in battle by an arrow that pierced a key acupuncture point. Supposedly the duke felt no pain and this led to the discovery of acupuncture.
Unfortunately, this cannot explain how some thousands of acupunture points were discovered. Binding slaves to stakes and using arrows to turn them into human porcupines cannot possibly account for the incredible anatomical mapping that has ensued.
Two other explanations remained which seemed equally improbable. One was that an alien civilization conferred this amazing gift upon our world. My sweetheart was stunned when I guessed the final conjecture: Namely, that the earliest practicioners were able to "see" into the human body much like those who "see" auras and determine where the ganglion points were.
As someone who has an instinctive ability to heal with my hands using massage, palpation and other physical manipulations despite all my scientific learning I am nonetheless obliged to go with the box on the stage. Little else can explain this incredibly ancient yet effective medicine.
I recommend acupuncture because it cannot possibly contraindicate existing medications or other treatments. Those who suffer intractable pain or muscular spasms and tics are fools not to try it.
hmmmm...obvious "lack of...." jokes present themselves, fact is, he became radioactive with his political position, rants to the daughter, and head of Film Actors Guild. No no-talented anger-issued asshole can get by that. Ask Howard Dean
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ALong wid the father on FOX whom put and allowed his kid too close to the sidelines of a US football game, where the boy was promptly collided into by professional football players.
AND NOW YOU KNOW WHY GOD INVENTED WOMEN WID HEAVY FRYING PANS + BAKING PINS.
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Nah, his political position had nothing to do with it. Frankly, I'm shocked that a Hollywood talent agency would even consider family values when retaining clients. There has to be some underlying issue.
Now I understand his great performance in "Glengarry Glen Ross".
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His apology was to the effect that he was "sorry" he was driven to act the way he did and that he was equally "sorry" the tape was released to the media. "Sorry" means something different to our leftist betters than it does to we little people.
Posted by: Frank G ||
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..Noticed though NBC has kept mum on the subject. 30 Rock has been steadily slipping in the ratings but has remained a critical favorite (TRANSLATION: NBC desperately wants to cancel it, but would lose face if it were to do so), so this might be their out.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski ||
04/25/2007 11:28 Comments ||
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But...but Alec Baldwin is the greatest actor in the history of the world.
Posted by: Team America ||
04/25/2007 11:37 Comments ||
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Take that Alex.
Mickey Rouke showed me that move after he felt me up in 9 1/2 Weeks.
Oh, you can leave your hat on...
Posted by: With Luv, Kim ||
04/25/2007 11:40 Comments ||
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CAA's Song for the Day:
I was sent from planet Xiron to conquer the earth
I had a terrific plan -- I thought it would work
Tried to get the Earthlings all to kill each other you see
But it all went wrong and now I must decree...
You are worthless Alec Baldwin, you are worthless Alec Baldwin
You failed in every way and now my stock in you has fallen
Your career is stallin' and you're worthless Alec Baldwin
That's why I blew your head off and your children are all bawlin'
Planet Xiron is inhabited with Xipods like me
But also with Balmacs who are giant bees
The Xipods and Balmacs are at constant war
So we wanted a new home and that's what Earth was for
But you are worthless Alec Baldwin, you are worthless Alec Baldwin
You fucked up my whole plan and now Xiron is smeared with Balmac pollen
Your garbage needs some haulin' and you're worthless Alec Baldwin
Now I must return home a failure -- I'm afraid the pit of Kryrok is callin'...
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Drudge (link can change):
ALEC BALDWIN TAPES INTERVIEW; WANTS OUT OF TV
Wed Apr 25 2007 17:04:40 ET
**Exclusive**
Alec Baldwin has taped an interview with Rosie O'Donnell for ABC's VIEW, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
O'Donnell told the studio audience off camera that this will be the actor's only interview.
"He is leaving the country," O'Donnell told a stunned audience, says a source. [It was not clear if it was for vacation or an extended period of time.]
She said she advised Baldwin against doing the interview.
During the session, to air Friday, Baldwin apologized for his tirade against his daughter.
He also explained how he wants out of the TV business:
"I have been in the business for over 27 years and I don't care if I do anything else in TV ever again."
Baldwin left CREATIVE ARTISTS AGENCY on Monday. No reason for the split was provided.
Developing...
Posted by: Frank G ||
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btw - AWESOME parody return call from his daughter
HT to Ace of Spades
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