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Axis of Evil...

Pic credit: Corsair the Pirate

Pic credit: Allahpundit
Y'want some juche to go with that jihad?
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 11:19:49 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thanks Fred. A picture IS worth a thousand words! Too bad the Wash Post or NYT won't run these. These jewels would certainly go a long way in defining the "debate" for most Americans. As an ex-liberal, I'm becoming more Rantish by the minute. More power to you guys.
Posted by: ex-lib || 03/14/2004 11:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Yeah, it is too bad the big (read: liberal) newspapers and network TV news programs are more interested in being "multicultural" (read: dhimmi) than in reporting the truth.

Funny thing is, if the Islamists were to actually take over, the newsies would be some of the first to be slaughtered. So either the newsies don't think the Islamists are going to win, no matter how much support they give them, or the newsies are too stupid to live.

So far, I'm leaning toward Door #2.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/14/2004 12:02 Comments || Top||

#3  I with ya ex-lib. I say target'em then pincer them!

Hey all, I've been shelved recently, anything happen this past week?

Did anybody notice how that smiley faced laddy susan lindauer, looks like Rantburg commenter (ex-commenter) Anti-war. Did she ever post her manifesto? Anybody.
Posted by: Lucky || 03/14/2004 14:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Lucky, do you notice that the Antiwar ilk never comment on this type of thread. Kind of hard to stand up for Kim and UBL.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 14:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Hey Super, I just saw her down below. Thought for sure she was in chains. Funny how a guy could be so wrong about something that seemed so certain.
Posted by: Lucky || 03/14/2004 15:06 Comments || Top||


Britain
More Britons allege Guantanamo beatings
Three Britons released from the Guantanamo Bay detention centre say they were regularly beaten while in US custody, backing similar allegations by two other British detainees.
I used to pop down twice a week to get in a few licks, myself...
Asif Iqbal, Ruhal Ahmed and Shafiq Rasul, friends from the town of Tipton in central England, say they were regularly mistreated from the moment they were handed over to US forces in Afghanistan in late 2001. After being taken to a US detention centre in the Afghan city of Kandahar, they were forced to kneel bent forwards for hours with their foreheads touching the ground, Mr Rasul told The Observer newspaper. "I lifted my head up slightly because I was really in pain. The sergeant came up behind me, kicked my legs from underneath me, then knelt on my back," he said. "They took me outside and searched me while one man was sitting on me, kicking and punching."
Oh, yeah. I'm convinced.
The three childhood friends, aged between 22 and 26, say they had gone to Pakistan for Mr Iqbal's wedding, arranged by his family, before going into Afghanistan to help arrange humanitarian aid.
"Ma'am, we're here with the Humanitarian Aid NGO. Here's your arms and ammunition. And, oh yeah. Here's some crackers."
There they were captured by the US-backed Northern Alliance and almost died after hundreds of prisoners were forced into lorry containers, the majority of whom suffocated.
Who the hell wrote this? The shipping containers would have been after the siege of Konduz. The majority didn't suffocate, unfortunately.
The trio's allegations of US mistreatment follow similar claims made earlier this week by two other British returnees. Tarek Dergoul, a 26-year-old former care worker from east London, said he had endured "botched medical treatment, interrogation at gunpoint, beatings and inhuman conditions". Another released Briton, 37-year-old website designer Jamal al-Harith, said in a newspaper interview that he had experienced beatings and degrading treatment during his two years at the jail.
Tell 'em about the hookers, Jamal...
US Secretary of State Colin Powell told a British television program that also interviewed Mr Harith that the charges are "unlikely". The five British men flew home on Tuesday from Camp Delta, the high-security camp in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba where the United States is holding about 650 suspected Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters. Despite their lengthy detention and although four of the men were briefly held by British police when they returned, none has been charged with any crimes.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 12:00:19 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, terrorists are really credible witnesses.
Posted by: Charles || 03/14/2004 0:39 Comments || Top||

#2  yawn - in other news, jessie jackson claims the white man is keeping him down.
Posted by: B || 03/14/2004 1:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Sounds like time for some axehandle debriefing - two swift whacks to the face (one at eye level, one just above the chin) and three in the crotch. Use white ash - it doesn't break as easily, and if it does splinter, they're a bi$$$ to remove.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/14/2004 1:47 Comments || Top||

#4 

hey Charles
your demented guttural farts like:
used to pop down twice a week to get in a few lick, myself
Ma'am, we're here with the Humanitarian Aid NGO.
Here's your arms and ammunition. And, oh yeah. HeTell I'm about the hookers, Jamal... re's some crackers."
just show how much suck the education in your fuckup country

that so call terrorist imprisoned with not due process, using lunatic and retarded phrases like ''UNLAWFUL COMBATANT
by the most retarded president in American history
are detainees captured in a war theatre and UNLAWFUL detained

Posted by: Eleano || 03/14/2004 4:21 Comments || Top||

#5  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: redsnapper TROLL || 03/14/2004 4:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Can someone please delete this crap and ban this moron.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 4:38 Comments || Top||

#7  You're quite right Eleano - they should have been shot in the back of the head in a football stadium, not captured, fed, watered, medically treated and all the other things the US did.

Bad US!

Personally, as far as I'm concerned, these people are not British, and I would have much preferred it if they'd been killed in Afghanistan whilst performing their "humanitarian work". Wankers.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 03/14/2004 4:38 Comments || Top||

#8  filthy little Islamoids like this should be tied up, doused in pigs blood and be dispalyed in an open to the public prison where all those concerned about thier poor little 'human rights' can come and cheer them on while all those who hate these fucking animal traiters like 95% of us can pitch rocks at them and generally torment and harass them. It amy sound simplistic and barbaric but hell it'd sure be a deterance to all the traiterous scum out there. I can't wait for the next batch of traiters we find in a combat zone, hopefully they will be exicuted on the spot and thier corpse fed to pigs. Backpackers, why do they hate us?
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 4:39 Comments || Top||

#9  hey Phil:
moron is this faghetty cock sucker father that born you, and the wore mother that shit you out
Eleano
Ps why dont you bang your son ass you jew cock sucker
Posted by: Eleano || 03/14/2004 4:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Most of the 'terrorists' were made up in an art program. Half a face, flop it, and paste. They aren't real.
Posted by: ProfessionalArtist || 03/14/2004 4:58 Comments || Top||

#11  Eleano:

You actually expect us to take something adopted by the UN General Assembly seriously? I'm surprised principle 40 didn't blame the JOOOOS for everything bad under the sun, and therefore why this resolution had to be created.
Posted by: sg || 03/14/2004 5:09 Comments || Top||

#12  ah this new troll is a real hoot, bet the sicko thinks Saddam and his Sons should have been left in power too, where they can carry on raping 11,12, and 13 year old girls like the fucking nonces they were. You obviously pro-peodophilia and probably a real life nonce yourself, i pity you
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 5:23 Comments || Top||

#13  Elano

Don't tell me you are moved by the plighyt of the Palestinains because there are people in far worse plight than the self-inflicted plight the Palestinians are in.

Now I know that very, very deep in you thetre is a good guy but you are frustrated because girls don't look at you but this has a solution. Wash yourself (girls don't like smelly hippies), read some poetry instead of the Volkischer Beobachter, make some sport until you get rid of your excess weight, buy some Viagra (it seems like you souild need it) and then go to the places where girls can be found instead of hanging at your keybord.

Have a nice day.
Posted by: JFM || 03/14/2004 6:12 Comments || Top||

#14  Fred, this Eleano character has commented before with his real name, FYI. I goggled him the first time he posted, and I could do it again iffin I had his full name.

This clown is a restaurantuer in California.
Posted by: badanov || 03/14/2004 7:09 Comments || Top||

#15  Disregard. He posted with his real name. Information on who this guy is, is here
Posted by: badanov || 03/14/2004 7:12 Comments || Top||

#16  He looked up a pointless and out-dated UN resolution for me? I'm so happy!
Posted by: Charles || 03/14/2004 7:52 Comments || Top||

#17  Camboni,
If you love the palestinians so much I suggest you go spend your fucking vacation cooking Pasta
for the fucking Hamas in the gaza trip
I have a great recipy for you
HUMUS A LA CAMBONI:
1 pound tortellini
1 pound Chick peas
1 pound SEMTEX
2 Palestinian suicidal fanatics.

mix all ingredients well, look for a place full of civilians, children and elderly people (i.e. those who cannot fight back).
EXPLODE , EXPLODE, EXPLODE !!!

You idiotic little restauranter
I wish I could analy feed your arse with some of your pasta(uncooked).
up yours


Posted by: The Dodo || 03/14/2004 8:02 Comments || Top||

#18  Would a successful restaurant owner write like a 6 yr old? I don't think so.
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 8:04 Comments || Top||

#19  comments like #9 should get your troll ass thrown out "Eleano" - buh-bye
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 8:45 Comments || Top||

#20  Begining to think our little Ranburg is going to have to hire a night watchman.
Posted by: Shipman || 03/14/2004 8:57 Comments || Top||

#21  The menus weren't in Italian. It was gibberish,
Posted by: ed || 03/14/2004 9:10 Comments || Top||

#22  just show how much suck the education in your fuckup country

There's the door.
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/14/2004 9:15 Comments || Top||

#23 
they had gone to Pakistan for Mr Iqbal's wedding

Where is his wife now?
.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 03/14/2004 9:18 Comments || Top||

#24  Geesh, eleano.
That's just sad.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 03/14/2004 9:25 Comments || Top||

#25  Whatever happened to civil and well reasoned discourse? Fred, may I suggest that you invoke your .... right to delete offensive or off-topic posts without warning! This eleanor carbonhead (or whoever he, she, it is) is a bandwidth bandit and should be permanently banned from RB. Can we expect that next eleano will copy and paste all 114 suras from the Qur'an? I aint interested.
Posted by: GK || 03/14/2004 11:06 Comments || Top||

#26  Whoever this guy is, he's not Italian. I took Italian language for a year, and, even if "Eleano" could not speak a word of English (how can he run a restaurant?) his attempts at English STILL wouldn't carry the "organization" and "syntax" he displays. My guess is he's an Islamotroll. I've heard some Arabs pretend to be Italian when they're in the US to avoid detection.
Posted by: ex-lib || 03/14/2004 11:43 Comments || Top||

#27  Fred: the S/N ratio is dropping massively since we got this eurotrash here and the Serb Nazi posting. Please institute a ban on their IP, or else let your moderators simply delete their posts immediately upon discovery. They have proven themselves to only be interseted in flooding the boards with large incoherent posts, and contributin nothing to either side of the discussions here. I know its made me come here a bit less becasue I dont have time to wade thru garbage - which is what they may be after.

In short, they've broken the rules egregiously in an effort to destroy the utility of this website. Time for them to bear the consequences, not you.
Posted by: OldSpook || 03/14/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#28  This is all plagiarised from a few sites like the following: http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles9/Engel_Jew-and-Me.htm

and
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/sassoon.htm

Posted by: Lou || 03/14/2004 11:51 Comments || Top||

#29  In human conditions
THEY WHERE BEING JAILED IN PARADISE
AND IF AFGANISTAN ISN'T A SHITHOLE THEN WHAT IS?
Posted by: smokeysinse || 03/14/2004 12:30 Comments || Top||

#30  In human conditions
THEY WHERE BEING JAILED IN PARADISE
AND IF AFGANISTAN ISN'T A SHITHOLE THEN WHAT IS?
Posted by: smokeysinse || 03/14/2004 12:39 Comments || Top||

#31  I see only two important points to base my decision on. The Red Thingy says there were no beatings. The stories from the detainees are becoming increasingly simular as they read each others comments in the media.

Many of the charges are so extremely unlikely that the credibility of the same clown is shot when he makes claims of more mundane cruelty. I don't think that it is very likely that local hookers are passing post-spy ring security checks so that they can participate in the interrogations.

I find the stories that the prisoners were exposing themselves to and masturbating in front of women guards. I find such abhorrent behavior is consistent with the way moslem fundementalist crazies treat women.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 12:40 Comments || Top||

#32  I just read a few lines of Elanor's post. Nothing like a general assembly resolution to truly distill some hypocracy. I wonder what votes were recorded for compliant regimes headed by Sadaam, the Ayatollahs, Assad, Castro, Kim, Baby Doc ...?
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 13:07 Comments || Top||

#33  You know, our Hummvees need more protection. We could make it easier on our guys if there was an additional level of protection across the hood of our vehicles. We've seen how well St. Pancake protected the Paleostingies with herself. I propose we strap dear ol' Eleano across the hood of a Hummvee in the Triangle as a "human shield". Any seconds???
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/14/2004 13:28 Comments || Top||

#34  Where are the adults (Fred, Dan, or the AoS) today? I'm with OldSpook (#27). Smack down the trolls.
Posted by: PBMcL || 03/14/2004 13:44 Comments || Top||

#35  PBMcL, I think Fred is rationalizing the categories one by one. See Fred's last comment on the Ellie's post that was deleted. He isn't asleep at the wheel. I imagine that the 5-mile comment will be shortened in due time.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 13:52 Comments || Top||

#36  SH - I was reading an old load and didn't notice 'til now. Nor did I intend any criticism of Fred et al.
Posted by: PBMcL || 03/14/2004 14:03 Comments || Top||

#37  This is a naked emperor story. It's my opinion that almost nobody actually believes this crap, it simply provides terror-apologists and totalitarian "peace activists" with another device for disrupting rational discourse while they exploit Islamo-fascist violence to move themselves into positions of power and control.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/14/2004 14:14 Comments || Top||

#38  (snip some wildly creative grammar)
"[J]ust show how much suck the education in your fuckup country."

Too...much...irony...can't...catch...breath...
Posted by: Another Dan || 03/14/2004 14:20 Comments || Top||

#39  So if Eleano ain't Eleano, who is he ? Someone go to the restaurant and look for a wild-eyed Arab working in the kitchen. Sir, do you have toothpaste in your ass ?
Posted by: John C. Lately || 03/14/2004 14:40 Comments || Top||

#40  And why is it only the "Britons" who tell these stories ? A drooling eager press camped outside their doors with checkbooks open, perhaps ?
Posted by: John C. Lately || 03/14/2004 14:42 Comments || Top||

#41  JCL, I don't get the toothpaste comment. Is it lubricant for gerbil insertion?
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 15:13 Comments || Top||

#42  SH, tooth paste up the rectum is just one of the weird things the AQ prisoners do to irritate their guards. From the 3 Bruces: In the most bizarre twist, Lance Corporal Devin Klebaur says a few have also been known to "put toothpaste in their ass." "What's the purpose?" I ask. "I'm not sure," he says, puzzled.
Posted by: GK || 03/14/2004 15:56 Comments || Top||

#43  SH - just because they have their collective heads up their asses doesn't mean they still don't feel the compulsion to brush their teeth.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/14/2004 16:19 Comments || Top||

#44  LOL. OP just broke the code.
Posted by: GK || 03/14/2004 17:39 Comments || Top||

#45  Badges?

We don' need no stinking BADGES!!
Posted by: mojo || 03/14/2004 17:55 Comments || Top||

#46  I read the BBC article on this today, and the jihadi talked about being beat, tortured, interrogated with a gun to his head, etc.etc.
Then at the very end of the article he said that we wanted him to sign a paper saying that he went to Afghanistan for terrorism training before he left gitmo, but he refused and that was ok, we didnt make him sign it, and then he went home.
Yeah THAT makes sense, all that torture and beatings and gun-point interrorgations, you would think a person would be willing to sign a piece of paper in order to leave right?
I'm sure Daniel Pearl wished his exit from detention could have been as easy as the optional signing of a piece of paper.
Posted by: TS || 03/14/2004 19:35 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
French Troops Now in Aristide Stronghold
French troops on Sunday replaced U.S. Marines patrolling a slum stronghold of exiled leader Jean-Bertrand Aristide, where the Americans - under fire - killed two people and angered residents. So far, no demonstrations were planned in the capital Port-au-Prince, where people wearing their Sunday best filled churches and hymns wafted in the air. "We pray that a spirit of commerce returns to the country, and we pray that our community can now be based on justice and freedom," the Rev. Chancy Crierlain told hundreds of parishioners at the city's Roman Catholic cathedral.
"But this is Haiti, so you'd best take cover!"
Aristide, who fled to the Central African Republic on Feb. 29, was expected to leave that asylum later Sunday for temporary exile in neighboring Jamaica, a prospect that has raised tensions in Haiti and prompted his followers to threaten more protests demanding his restoration as their democratically elected president. A five-member delegation of American and Jamaican officials, including Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., was to fly with Aristide in a chartered plane to Jamaica, where he will meet his daughters. They had been sent to New York City days before Aristide fled.
The choice (and remember, death is not an option): bring Aristide to the US or leave Maxine Waters in Haiti?
U.S. Ambassador to Haiti James Foley said Saturday that "Jamaican authorities are certainly taking on a risk and a responsibility" by accepting Aristide. Jamaican officials say he will only stay eight to 10 weeks until he finds a new home. Many countries appear reluctant to enter into the diplomatic entanglement of hosting Aristide, who has claimed the United States forced him from power.
Get ready for a long stay, mon!
On Sunday, French soldiers patrolled La Saline, where residents have not had electricity or water since Aristide's flight and mounds of trash block the streets. One young French trooper, who identified himself only as Sgt. Jean-Michel, said his group had just come from Ivory Coast and had more experience in peacekeeping than the Americans. "I'm afraid things could get bad for the Americans. They have sensitive fingers on the trigger," he said. "We're more relaxed under fire."
"We just zeet there and take it!"
The chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Richard Myers, arrived Saturday and visited U.S. troops at their barracks, shaking hands with Marines. But he did not talk with Haitian officials. He said the United States would not take sides in Haiti, but warned the Marines had the right to defend themselves.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/14/2004 1:18:37 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  bring Aristide to the US or leave Maxine Waters in Haiti?
How about "letting" both of them take the Long Swim to Cuba...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/14/2004 14:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Jamaica is a good candidate for hosting Aristide. The local produce will make his "America kidnapped me" spiel seem quite believable.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 15:01 Comments || Top||

#3  "Aristide, who fled to the Central African Republic on Feb. 29"...

At least it can only commemorated once every four years!
Posted by: Hyper || 03/14/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Rather than greasing the two snipers shooting down civilians as did US troops; the neo-colonialist, genocidal racist, white supremacist French mercenaries would have waited for the snipers to run out of ammo, allowed them to escape and shared a bottle of wine to celebrate a job well-done. It is easy to keep the "peace" for the non-aggressive French.
Posted by: Garrison || 03/14/2004 19:43 Comments || Top||


Myers vows crackdown as Haiti tensions rise
The United States' top soldier has vowed that foreign peacekeepers would take tough action against trouble-makers in Haiti, hours after Marines killed two more gunmen in a firefight in the tense Caribbean nation. General Richard Myers, chairman of the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff, flew into Port-au-Prince at the end of a Latin American trip. He is visiting US Marines, who are leading a force sent to restore order after deposed president Jean-Bertrand Aristide was exiled last month. "The multilateral force will not tolerate violence against [itself] ... nor violence against Haitian civilians," General Myers said. "Those who take up arms and those who take up violence will be dealt with properly."
Shooting them seems a proper thing to do...
The capital is agitated by the looming return of Mr Aristide to the Caribbean, in a planned visit to neighbouring Jamaica that Haiti's new government and US officials say will feed the fury of his loyalists. General Myers was taken by helicopter from the heavily guarded airport to the Marines' base in another part of the sprawling capital, avoiding roads that pass through some of the slums that are a stronghold of support for the ousted president. The latest shooting took place on Friday night after Aristide supporters opened fire on Marines patrolling a slum near the National Palace in Port-au-Prince.
That was stupid, wasn't it?
Residents say up to 11 people died or were injured as bullets flew, but the Marines say they could confirm only two deaths. Leading a United Nation-sanctioned 2,550-member international force, the Marines have fought more than half a dozen battles since landing on February 29, hours after Mr Aristide was pushed out by a month-long revolt and US pressure.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 12:09:39 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  After the USA liberated Kuwait in 1991, the anti-war Left demanded the USA deploy troops to Somalia. After the liberation of Iraq, the anti-war Left demanded the USA intervene in Liberia then Haiti. Both Presidents Bush fell for the cruel joke. Now, the US military is up to here in a quagmire in Haiti as was the case in Somalia.
Posted by: Garrison || 03/14/2004 4:09 Comments || Top||

#2  quagmire quigmire run run. Seriously this is not a quagmire, have there been hundreds or thousands of soldiers from any nationality killed yet, no not even one,are the soldiers 'bogged down' by the eneamy as the term quagmire implies in this situation,answer agin no, the troops are free to do as they wish under the rules of engagement and have absolutly no tactical threat that can or will stop them doing what they wanna do. I suggest you learn a little about warfare before banding about words like quagmire so readily
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 6:49 Comments || Top||

#3  I agree this is a political trap by Dems to hold the Republicans to the same standard of intervention for poor-ass countries versus potentially very rich countries, like Iraq or Kuwait. The irony is that if the Marines didn't step in, there would have been a blood bath, and Mr Aristide would have ended up hanging from a lightpost. Sometimes doing the right thing isn't always the smartest thing. This could end up biting Bush in the Ass, but lets remember that Somalia was Clintons failure, not Bush senior. GWB doesn't put restrictions on the military's use of force, so the likelyhood of this turning into Somalia is nill.
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/14/2004 10:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Hait now is just a delayed cleanup from the botched intervention under Clinton. We didnt finish the job right in the 1990's so we are now payign the price for letting Haiti fester for a decade under the bandit Aristde.

Anyone want to pull out of iraq now is risking the same thing on a much larger scale. WIht a lot more loss of life for the US.

Haiti and Iraq must be committed to for the long term - to rebuild the infrastructure and people to where they cna actually rna a democracy instead of a kleptocracy or mullah led dictatorship.
Posted by: OldSpook || 03/14/2004 11:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Old Spook: I'd feel a lot better about the possibility if we hadn't already tried this from 1916-1934, with dismal results. I have to admit, US politics of the era (especially Wilson's egregious stupidity) played a heavy hand in making the bad problems in Haiti worse, and I don't expect Bush II to make similar mistakes. I also don't believe there's an easy or even reasonable answer to the problems in Haiti. To "do it right" may take several decades, and more billions than it would be worth. Unlike Iraq, where there was a working society to begin with (although severely repressed), there is nothing similar in Haiti to build on.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/14/2004 12:30 Comments || Top||

#6  The only thing that could help Haiti is for all the Black churches of this country to set up shop and help bring them some sanity. Other than that it's backoff and let the poor devils have at it. From what I can tell the place is a backward bunch of exslaves on PCP.

Pretty funny what that French guy said. I wonder if the Frenchies have a marching song about their Haitian campaigns in the past.

"They kicked us in the ass,
our enemy didn't have any class"

"They chopped us up at night,
before we had a chance to fight"

"We told them we'ed be back,
it's late now so we'll hit the sack"

Posted by: Lucky || 03/14/2004 15:49 Comments || Top||

#7  I just wish the ABC would figure out the difference between a battle and a skirmish...
Posted by: mojo || 03/14/2004 22:07 Comments || Top||


Europe
Red Square Building in Flames
Just minutes after polls closed, a huge fire erupted in a 19th-century landmark building off Red Square, and two firefighters were killed. Within an hour after the fire broke out, about half the 48,000-square-foot structure was in flames and part of the roof had collapsed, news reports said. Flames shot high into the nighttime sky and thick, gray smoke billowed over the Kremlin towers. The two firefighters who died were in the building's attic when it fell in, the ITAR-Tass news agency said, citing city fire service spokesman Yevgeny Bobylev. A third firefighter was injured inhaling poisonous fumes, said Viktor Beltsov, spokesman for the Emergency Situations Ministry. Moscow emergency officials said they did not know what caused the fire, which apparently started on the intricately designed roof. They said the blaze was ranked in the most serious category.
The Manezh was a Russian national treasure. The timing raises my suspicions...
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 7:06:58 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Your suspicions of?
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/14/2004 19:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Probably Shamil...
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 19:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Perhaps if it had come a day after Madrid. I just don't see the reason for last night. I'll bet it comes down to a loose electrical connection left by a drunk electrician Friday afternoon.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/14/2004 19:43 Comments || Top||

#4 
The timing raises my suspicions...
Nah, sounds like it's more likely an accident. If it was Islamists trying to influence the election (as they apparently did in Spain), it would have been before the election, not after, and it would have been an obvious (and large) bomb, not an apparent accident. And there would have been hundreds killed. The Islamofreaks get off on that.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/14/2004 19:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Barbara, I think the punks knew that it would be hard to convince the Russians not to vote for Putin as he was the only candidate. They went in stead for the - this is how we punish you treatment.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 21:34 Comments || Top||


AP: Madrid Bombing, 9/11 Suspect Linked
One of the three Moroccans arrested in the Madrid train bombings is linked to a man jailed in Spain for allegedly helping plan the Sept. 11 attack in the United States. It was the latest suggestion that al-Qaida may have been involved in the bombings. A Sept. 17, 2003 indictment named Jamal Zougam, 30, as a "follower" of Imad Yarkas, who was jailed for allegedly helping plan the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington. Zougam has been arrested in the Madrid bombings. Yarkas, who has used the alias Abu Dahdah, remains in Spanish custody. The indictment, led by Spanish Judge Baltasar Garzon, showed police had searched Zougam's home twice. One search turned up a video of mujaheddin fighters in Dagestan, Russia. Zougam is one of three Moroccans and two Indians arrested in the Thursday attacks, which killed 200 people and wounded 1,500.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/14/2004 16:45 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Tap-tap.

Nope, surprise meter didn't budge.

It's been pegged at zero for a long time.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/14/2004 18:47 Comments || Top||


Spain's Socialists Appear Poised to Win
The ruling Popular Party looked headed for defeat in elections overshadowed by the Madrid terror bombings, with the opposition Socialists poised to score spectacular gains, according to partial results. With 43 percent of the votes counted, the conservatives - who had been projected to win comfortably - fell from 183 seats in the last 350-seat legislature to 135. The Socialists soared from 125 seats to 164. Turnout was high at 76 percent. Many voters said Thursday's bombings, which killed 200 people and wounded 1,500, was a decisive factor, along with the government's much-criticized handling of the initial investigation. The electorate of 34.5 million included about 1.9 million mostly young voters added to the rolls since the 2000 general election. Until the bombing, the conservative Popular Party was projected by most polls to beat the Socialists, although perhaps without retaining their majority. But the disaster, which the government initially blamed on the Basque separatist group ETA, threw the election wide open. The attack was followed by emotional rallies across the country. Critics accused the government, which had trumpeted its crackdown on ETA, of manipulating the investigation for political gain. That struck a chord with voters.
If it turns out this way then al-Q definitely won a round. Damn.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/14/2004 1:28:24 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hmmm, I tried to post this and got an error screen... Fred are you working on the guest article posting thing?

Anyway, I'm disgusted with them. Europe is finished.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/14/2004 15:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Very hard to parse all the factors that lead to actual voting patterns, of course (even with exit polling), but externally this is potentially a big blow, as it will be interpreted widely as a surrender to terror. In terms of policy, however, is it really possible to imagine that a new administration will, in the wake of the country's worst terror attack, step back from an aggressive anti-terror strategy? Seems the catastrophe that helped bring them to power would ensnare them in the necessity of fighting back.
Posted by: IceCold || 03/14/2004 16:05 Comments || Top||

#3  It is very easy to imagine a new administration pulling all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan and refusing to give the Navy basing rights it is looking for at Rota.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/14/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Europe is done.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 03/14/2004 16:24 Comments || Top||

#5  If the Socialists win, and if the al-Qaeda factor was a factor, then a large segment of the Spanish population just took cover behind the future sacrifices of others.

"It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
--Patrick Henry March 23,1775


Thanks to the people of Spain for their contributions to the WoT to date. But you may have just ensured a future you don't really want...
Posted by: Hyper || 03/14/2004 16:24 Comments || Top||

#6  According to these numbers, neither party has a majority. Anyone know about Spanish third parties and who is more likely (the Popular Party or the Socialists) to form a coalition gummint?

p.s. I am sick at heart.....
Posted by: WUZZALIB || 03/14/2004 16:34 Comments || Top||

#7  Icecold, they ran on the platform of stepping back from the war on terror. Of course they will follow through with their promise.

From this day on whenever I think of Spain I will think of appeasers. This election will go down as infamous and be an embarassment to Spain for decades.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/14/2004 16:38 Comments || Top||

#8  The Popular Party has conceded; the Socialists have won.

Oh, well. Que sera, sera. I guess we'll see shortly what changes the new government will actually make; Spain may withdraw from the war against totalitarian Islam, or it may keep on fighting.

No matter what policy changes the new Spanish government makes, the Socialist victory there will send a powerful message of hope to Islamofascists everywhere: hit the Europeans hard enough, and they will run away yelping, their tails between their legs.

There will be much rejoicing in Ragheadville tonight, for Europe's nightmare has now begun.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/14/2004 16:40 Comments || Top||

#9  Whoever was the guily (ETA or Al Quaida) it is a very, very bad day for the war on terror. It has shown that crime pays. I expect future bombings aimed at influencing elections in coalition members.
Posted by: JFM || 03/14/2004 16:54 Comments || Top||

#10  Europe chooses dhimmitude.
Posted by: someone || 03/14/2004 16:55 Comments || Top||

#11  Shame on the Spaniards. So from this, I take it that being "Civilized" means tucking tail and hoping the enemy pities you enough to have mercy on you. The Terrorist won. Watch out for more hits - the precedent has been set. Europe has been lost to Islamic fanatics. Shame, Shame, Shame. Spain and Europe deserve whatever they get now and I guarantee they will not hesitate to come begging for the US to bail them out again.

How long do you think it will be before the terrorists lay their sights on the Vatican?

Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 03/14/2004 17:03 Comments || Top||

#12  YS
Not till JPII dies. After that the smoke will be green.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/14/2004 17:05 Comments || Top||

#13  This really disgusts me.

Perhaps the new ruling party will encourage more "anti-terrorism rallies" to really bring Al-Quaeda to their knees.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 03/14/2004 17:10 Comments || Top||

#14  I'm depressed! Large scale atrocities look like becoming a standard feature of election campaigns from now on.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 17:16 Comments || Top||

#15  Al Qaeda successfully influences an election per their own captured documentation... this guarantees that there will be bombs going off in America killin innocents to influence our election in October...

Thanks to the cowardly Spanish Socialist party...

So JFKerry(D) through his explicit refusal to admit there is a war on terror has recruited Al Qaeda to bomb/campaign for the (D)'s...

We have seen the greatest defeat in the war on terror since 911 and we are doing it to ourselves.
Posted by: DANEgerus || 03/14/2004 17:17 Comments || Top||

#16  A few months back Spain took a hit in Iraq. I forget the precise number of Spainish soldiers killed when bombed by terrorists in Iraq. Something like 16-18 people killed (?) in one fell swoop. Then came Madrid on Thursday. Now I read that the Spainish electorate has decided to be governend by it's left wing socialist party. It would appear AQ has been able to influence the outcome of an election of a democratic governement by killing less than 220 souls (and maiming numerous others). The conservative party is being punsihed for taking a stand against Islamic terrorism. Astonishing. I think this is a sad day for Spain. Even moreso than 3-11.
Posted by: Mark || 03/14/2004 17:18 Comments || Top||

#17  Sat here feeling real angry , don't the fuckin Spanish see they've just given AQ an absolutly huge victory.I'm sorry if i appear racist but the Spaniards can now officially join france,germany and belgium on the euro coward shit heap, I wish the U.K could just put engines on our country and move to the other side of the atlantic, maybe in a few thousand years eh. Shame on you you greasy bin-laden loving spaniards and don't come running to us when you get the next boom, we don't deal with appeasers.
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 17:21 Comments || Top||

#18  Shep,

No more booms in Spain. They're on board with dhimmitude. Next boom Athens.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/14/2004 17:24 Comments || Top||

#19  Jeebus. The more I think about this, the worse it looks.

The Spanish have lost their nerve and opted, it appears, for appeasement. Is Britain next? Seems to me, Blair has been bucking public opinion in his support for the U.S. almost as much as Aznar was. Could an Islamonazi attack in London be next? How about Warsaw, to teach the Poles a lesson? And then Sydney, Australia to knock them out of the game...

What about us? Are we next, here in the States? Will we have a little surprise the last week of October, courtesy of al Qaeda, to tip the scales in favor of John Kerry?

This does not bode well.

Not only does it not bode well for us, it especially does not bode well for the Islamic world: if the WoT goes dormant due to a dearth of allies--and/or a dearth of courage on our own part--then there's nothing stopping this menace from rebuilding itself anew.

And if they attack us again a few years down the road, the next U.S. president will know one thing from experience: the world does not have the collective will to sustain a long fight.

So he will do the only thing he can do under the circumstances: he will obliterate the entire Arab world in one titanic flash.

Mark my words: if we abandon this War on Terrorism, there will be another one someday; and it will last only about 20 minutes.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/14/2004 17:27 Comments || Top||

#20  So are they passing out the candy in Nablus and Ramallah yet?
Posted by: 11A5S || 03/14/2004 17:28 Comments || Top||

#21  I'm now convinced that the USA, U.k, Poland etc will all see AQ attacks weeks and days before the election.Thanks alot spain you've given AQ thier greatest hope yet and our biggest defeat in one fell swoop,i can see it now 'Spain the Islamic terrorist gateway to europe'
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 17:33 Comments || Top||

#22  After that the smoke will be green. What's that mean?
Posted by: Edward Yee || 03/14/2004 17:34 Comments || Top||

#23  EY: Green is the color of Islam.
Posted by: 11A5S || 03/14/2004 17:38 Comments || Top||

#24  Wuzzalib, as I understand it (and I really don't) the Socialists because they don't have an outright majority will now have to form a coalition government, presumably with the Communist Party (see, it can get worse.) See the post at www.iberiannotes.blogspot.com

I hope the Socialists have the decency to take those two red stripes off the Spanish flag.

But the issue is: them's the facts, now what are we going to do about them?
Posted by: Matt || 03/14/2004 17:43 Comments || Top||

#25  The UK is next. I expect AQ to go all out for a really big set of coordinated booms. Stay out of the London Underground!
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 17:43 Comments || Top||

#26  This has been a very interesting a thoughtful thread. I think that it is too early to entirely say what the Socialist Government will do in reference to their help in the WoT. Elections are complex things, electorates tend to switch from right to left and then from left to right for a lot reasons...all of which are probably not connected to the Madrid Bombings.

Of course, such subtlety will be lost on the Islamists and they will perceive it as a victory, even if not true.

And therefore, most future elections will be marked with Islamic Violence.
Posted by: Traveller || 03/14/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#27  IIRC The cardinals burn the ballots after each vote for a new pope. Black smoke indicates there was no consensus on a new pope. White smoke indicates a selection has been agreed upon.

When Berlusconi departs, the major Catholic countries of Europe will have become dhimmi.

John Paul II is now the third longest serving pope in history. While not seriously ill, his years are showing. Under his papacy the number and vigor of third world Catholics and cardinals has increased substantially. When he dies, the election of his successor could be a very interesting process and will be critical to the future direction of the church.

Green smoke was meant to indicate that the jihadists may be able to achieve their goal through Euro dhimmi Cardinals as opposed to the terrorist strike on the Vatican mentioned by Yosemite Sam.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/14/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#28  Their country, their choice. But I hope they're not too surprised when the Moors come to "take back" Andalusia and we're too busy someplace else to help.

And we should pull all of our troops out of Bosnia, too. Let the Euros handle it, since they're so much more sophisicated and nuanced than we are. And Haiti, for that matter. Send all the Haitian refugees to France - at least they'll speak the language better than the Middle Eastern immigrants that are there now.

It's pretty sad that our "friends" of the past 60 years don't get it, while our enemy of the same time (Russia) understands the Islamist threat, even if they aren't willing to help us with it.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/14/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#29  I am surprised no one has identified the big winner today, Jacques Chiraq. Another Euro dhimmi regime ready to face down the evil Hyper-puissant Americans.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/14/2004 17:58 Comments || Top||

#30  Barbara, don't be too hard on Russia...they have their hands full with their own Islamfacist threat.

They seem to be killing them as fast as they can.
Posted by: Traveller || 03/14/2004 17:59 Comments || Top||

#31  If the Socialists pull the Spanish contingent out of Iraq, we could paint a large Spanish flag on our armored vehicles, with the legend in Arabic, "Spain and the US: Eternal Allies." It's the least we can do to show our support in this difficult moment. Perhaps also some leaflets like that in the tribal areas of Pakistan.
Posted by: Matt || 03/14/2004 18:06 Comments || Top||

#32  It's not that no one noticed, Mr. D., it's just that putting the words "Chirac" and "winner" in the same sentence is so... unnatural.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/14/2004 18:06 Comments || Top||

#33  Next strike could be UK ... but I wouldn't be surprised if it were Italy instead, though.

Start with the smaller participants and cow the other Euro states, then UK or Australia. US somewhere in there when/if they can pull it off - they've been stymied a few times this past year.

I am heartsick. So many in the West don't feel their own civilization is worth defending .. indeed, they are vaguely ashamed of it. And of course, if there is no honor, no courage and no willingness to sacrifice, perhaps theirs isn't worth protecting.

Posted by: rkb || 03/14/2004 18:07 Comments || Top||

#34  Like I said,Europe has gotten the message.The alliance is dead.From now on,we'll do whatever it takes to appease the Jihadists.Expect no cooperation from us in the WOT,an even harder line against Israel,and soon-to-be-reached "understanding" with the Mullahs in Iran.
Posted by: El Id || 03/14/2004 18:09 Comments || Top||

#35  Nobody is pointing out that these sort of attacks take a long time to plan and execute, far longer than the action in Iraq. It was a matter of convience for AQ that the election was within their planning time frame. The spanish should have been told this over and over, this is an aweful day.
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/14/2004 18:09 Comments || Top||

#36  Australia because of its strict immigration system and secure borders is too hard a nut to crack. If not the UK then France to try and get a symbolic backdown on the tudung issue.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 18:16 Comments || Top||

#37  Re comment #35: Um, maybe I lack info, but the attack on 3/11 seemed to be ridiculously low-tech and simple to pull off, unless synchronizing watches has become a lot more difficult. I'm not saying it wouldn't take some work, but that it doesn't seem all that complex.
Posted by: Just John || 03/14/2004 18:19 Comments || Top||

#38  Then why hasn't this been happening every day for the last year ? Even 'simple' low tech actions require planning, and AQ MO seems to be to plan for attacks for multiple years ...
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/14/2004 18:23 Comments || Top||

#39  Well, folks, it appears that appeasement may have won the day. But before we all gather around the circle of group despair and have a pity party, we are going to require time to see how things shake out in the new Spanish government.

People voted with their emotions in the election which came on the heels of a dastardly, coordinated attack. The attack appears to have produced the desired effect upon the populace, just like the 9-11 WTC attackers were trying to achieve but failed in the US.

I am not willing to write off Spain yet until I see how things shake out. The implications of the attack have not sunk in yet for the Spanish people. I also feel, though I am loth to say it, that it may take several more hits in Europe to wake up the populace to their peril.

The coming weeks and months will be cruical to the direction that the war will take. If other countries like Britain, France, Poland, Germany, et al, cave in, then the jihadis can save their explosives and take over the non-violent infiltration way. If other countries stand, like the UK did in the Battle of Britain, then there is hope. Not only for Europe, but for the people of the Muslim Middle East, who will live instead of becoming dusty radioactive daughters of Uranium and Plutonium.

My advice to this Administration: hope for the best, but plan for the worst. The World War is ramping up. Europe is in it, like it or not.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/14/2004 18:25 Comments || Top||

#40  #30 Traveller - I'm not talking about the Russians' response to their own Islamic terrorists; I know they're doing their best to kill them all. I was referring to their actions to help the Iraqis against us. But I don't hold it against them the way I hold the same types of actions against the French, etc. The Russians never pretended to be our friends or allies.

#33 rkb - If the Euros really care about the people in Islamic countries (Yes, I know they really don't, no matter what they say), they'll grow a spine and get seriously committed to war against terrorists, including going out and killing some on their own.

We're not going to give in and allow our country to be destroyed, no matter how much the Islamists and Euros want it (and the idiot Euros better think about what such an event would do to their own already-in-the-shitter economies), so if our allies drop out of the fight and we find we don't have enough ground troops to take the fight to the enemy, we'll have to do with the Air Force and missiles. And that will be bad news for the people of whatever Islamic country we're having to attack for supporting terrorists. Better them than us, though.

The U.S. will never the loved, no matter now hard the LLL and the Dhimmi-crats try. There are many who will never respect us, either, but I'll settle for being feared if it means the rest of the world will LEAVE US ALONE.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/14/2004 18:27 Comments || Top||

#41  Barbara, I agree with your sentiments ... but the election this Fall will show whether we are in the majority or not.

El Id, Europe has already reached an "understanding" with Iran, giving them enough time to finish the weapons program. The UN now won't even reopen the question of inspections until June. Europe has won this one, we all lost (even Europe, they just don't realize it yet).
Posted by: rkb || 03/14/2004 18:39 Comments || Top||

#42  Then why hasn't this been happening every day for the last year?

A very good question. There are three key components. Money, explosives and people willing willing to sacrifice themselves.

I doubt money is a problem. There seems to be plenty of Saudi charity money and increasingly drug money. Explosives is a harder problem. You either have to have a secure supply or make your own which requires some expertise, but not a lot. Anyone with a chemistry degree should be able to manage it. Once you know how, manufacturing large amounts of explosives is not a problem as the IRA demonstrated. Which leaves people, which is where I believe the limiting factor lies. Finding committed people who pose no risk of being a spy takes time and organization. The bad news is I think 'successes' like the Madrid bombs will increase the supply of people. My prediction is it is going to get a lot worse unless there is a major crackdown on militant muslims, which now looks like it is unlikely after the Spanish election where the message was 'take a hardline on the WoT and get voted out of office'.

This has been a bad few days. If were religous, which I am not, I would be praying for a Bush win in November.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 18:57 Comments || Top||

#43  Traveller-
And therefore, most future elections will be marked with Islamic Violence.

...Especially ours. If JFK continues to mouth off in ways that encourage AlQ to think we might be pushed, God help us next November - we could be in for attacks that could dwarf 911.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 03/14/2004 19:10 Comments || Top||

#44  A very good question. There are three key components. Money, explosives and people willing willing to sacrifice themselves.

All of which would suggest a deal of planning ...
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/14/2004 19:13 Comments || Top||

#45  The time frame for planning something like this is months, not years, Anonymous. If it really took years, then the planning for attacks in Iraq would have started before the invasion.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 03/14/2004 19:26 Comments || Top||

#46  More importantly, in the short term for Spain, is what message this sends to ETA. I'd guess: "make your kills bigger and more random and you have a chance" - Bad message, very, very bad...

(I say that as a person of Basque heritage disgusted with the ETA and their tactics)
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 19:53 Comments || Top||

#47  I'd side with Alaska Paul right now: we don't know what's going to happen just yet. I'll give the new Spanish government a chance to reflect soberly on what it would mean to pull back from the WoT.

But if they pull out of Iraq it's going to be a real problem. The Spanish not only police a good chunk of central Iraq, they also co-sponsor the various Latin American countries that have sent troops. Each of the LA countries that have done so have sent small contingents, but the net effect is significant. I can't imagine them staying if the Spanish pull out. And that leaves a hole that we (realistically) are going to have to fill. I think that means a Marine expeditionary force.

I doubt the Spanish will pull back in other areas of the WoT -- they'll still share intelligence, cooperate in seizing funds, etc. That will be useful but the public perception is that they'll have caved, and al-Q will grow because of that.

Frank: good point about the ETA. No matter how small and rejected they are right now, they have a road map, don't they.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/14/2004 20:10 Comments || Top||

#48  I don't think the train bombings had so much to do with the socialists' victory. It was more a case of the Spanish anti-war crowd being bigger than anyone thought. Combined with the impression that Bush lied regarding the WMD in Iraq (and this is much more believable in Europe) and you have a situation where even the fence-sitters were persuaded to vote for a change in government. Notice the signs that the people were carrying in the Madrid rallies yesterday: they all read "Peace". This was the same anti-war crowd that took to the streets a year ago. The train booms just heightened peoples' emotions.
Posted by: Rafael || 03/14/2004 20:17 Comments || Top||

#49  All of which would suggest a deal of planning

You have to differentiate between planning and organization. Planning doesn't take long. Organization does. The key question is can we tear down their organization faster than they can build it up. I don't know the answer but I strongly suspect that in Europe we are losing this battle.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 20:19 Comments || Top||

#50  What will the new Spanish government do? The Daily Telegraph reports:

Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, the Socialist leader, said: "My most immediate priority is to beat all forms of terrorism," after asking for a minute's silence for the victims.

The Socialists have proposed to withdraw 1,300 Spanish troops from Iraq.

That would break the unity of the coalition policing Iraq and would be portrayed in the Arab world as a victory for al-Qa'eda.

Juan Fernando Lopez Aguilar, one of the leading Socialist Party figures, told the Telegraph yesterday that it would put withdrawal from Iraq at the top of its agenda.

"One of the first decisions will be to bring the troops back home," he said. "We have said that we would pull them out by June 30.

"We have always believed it has not been a legitimate occupation of a foreign land and has no constitutional basis."

Mr Lopez Aguilar denied that this could be seen as a victory for the terrorists. "It is not intended to send any message to al-Qa'eda. It is a political commitment," he said.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/14/2004 20:24 Comments || Top||

#51  I'm willing to bet that the big media in Spain all tend toward the Socialist spectrum. The big media can control the message for a few days after a big event. Put two and two together.

Ironically, the Spanish were carrying 'no to murderers and no to cowards' banner a few days ago. They've now voted yes to both.
Posted by: mhw || 03/14/2004 21:20 Comments || Top||

#52  So the war inters a new middle game. Spain has chosen to be cool. Socialist! Tsk tsk. A Spain divided. As is Europe. The ABBA crowed has been energized. Popular culture is a powerful thing. Spain is a young democracy. They must flirt with the nanny state. But make no mistake. There are many in Spain ready to retake this challenge. Buck up Rantburg. The games in play!

Interesting times. Can't wait to read Vic Hanson's thoughts on this.
Posted by: Lucky || 03/14/2004 21:55 Comments || Top||

#53  A lot of good posts here, especially the ones that point out the different angles... and there are tons. But nothing is predictable nowadays.

As a response to another post on how things will go as a result of the election..

First things first... A majority coalition (176 seats) would appear to be needed for the next government. This would appear to naturally the PSOE (socialists - 164 seats) and partner IU (leftish/communist - 5 seats)and the ERC (Catalunian leftists - 8 seats). This might be a little tricky for the socialists as there already is a decentralized socialistic state (with 100% dependence on oil imports) in Spain that doens't have much left to offer to offer regional and leftist groups, and these small parties are not exactly "mainstream" reasonable (if that is the goal of the Socialists... to be "mainsteam reasonable")

On the other hand, a coalition with the losing conservatives is always possible as a balancing trick against the above. Quite possible if the world situation forces Spain's political parties to make their international affairs their first priority instead of tit for tat domestic bickering.

Posted below is the relevant part of the Spanish Constitution... if you care to do some alternative math.

Article 99

1. After renewal of the Congress of Deputies, and in other cases provided under the Constitution, the King, after consultation with the representatives appointed by the political groups with Parliamentary representation, and through the President of Congress, shall propose a candidate for President of the Government.

2. The candidate proposed in accordance with the provisions of the foregoing paragraph shall submit to the Congress of Deputies the political programme of the Government that he intends to form and shall seek the confidence of the Houses.

3. If the Congress of Deputies, by vote of the absolute majority of its members, invests said candidate with its confidence, the King shall appoint him President. If an absolute majority is not obtained, the same proposal shall be submitted for a fresh vote forty-eight hours after the previous vote, and it shall be considered that confidence has been secured if it passes by a simple majority.

4. If, after this voting, confidence for the investiture has not been obtained, successive proposals shall be voted upon in the manner provided. in the foregoing paragraphs.

5. If within two months after the first vote for investiture no candidate has obtained the confidence of Congress, the King shall dissolve Congress and call new elections, following endorsement by the President of Congress.
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/14/2004 21:58 Comments || Top||

#54  LLLs everywhere rejoice at this abject surrender. It vindicates their entire strategy of the past 40 years.
Since they obviously endorse this kind of daringly innovative electioneering, they surely cannot object if we do likewise.

I suggest that President Bush make the following statement just before the next election in France:

"People of France!
As you must surely know by now, the half dozen MOABs that fell yesterday on the 4th Arrondisement were a morally justified reprisal for the Chirac government's unreasonable policies on Iraq and Israel.
He and his evil minions are therefore wholly and entirely to blame for the resulting deaths and injuries, as well as for the deplorable loss of many national treasures, including large numbers of stolen bicycles, Arab-owned tabacs, and battered Citroen Meharis.
Vote accordingly.
Have a nice day."


For Spanish visitors:
Paz en nuestro tiempo----la paz de los muertos.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/14/2004 22:19 Comments || Top||

#55  Atomic Conspiracy,

Well said!
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/14/2004 23:12 Comments || Top||


Moroccan Arrested in Madrid Was Being Watched
One of three Moroccans arrested in connection with the Madrid train bombings was already being closely watched by authorities in his homeland, where he was suspected of ties to an al-Qaida-linked group, a Moroccan official said Sunday. Jamal Zougam, 30, was one of thousands of Moroccans put under surveillance by authorities after May terrorist bombings in the coastal city of Casablanca, a high-level official told The Associated Press. There were no formal accusations against him.
That's about to change.
The other two suspects, Mohamed Bekkali, 31, and Mohamed Chaoui, 34, had no police record at home, the official said. All three had been living in Spain for years. Spanish authorities arrested the three Saturday, along with two Indians, in connection with Thursday bombings in Madrid, which killed 200 people and injured 1,500. All were taken into custody in connection with a cell phone and prepaid card in an explosives-filled gym bag found on one of the four trains bombed, Spanish Interior Minister Angel Acebes has said. Acebes also said one of the Moroccans may be linked to extremist groups but did not say which one. No particular terror group has been named in connection with Saturday's arrests in Spain. But a reported al-Qaida claim states it staged deadly rail bombings last week to punish the government for supporting the U.S.-led war in Iraq. Spain's El Pais newspaper, citing the interior ministry, reported the Moroccans have links to Abu Dahdah, the jailed alleged leader of al-Qaida's Spanish cell. Authorities in Morocco said they could not comment on the report.
"We can say no more!"
The three men are all from northern Morocco, a region that has a strong network of Islamic militants and where many people growing cannabis clandestinely and exporting it illegally to Europe.
Jihad 'n drugs -- what devout Muslims they are!
Spanish citizens were among 33 people killed by Casablanca's suicide bombings against Jewish targets and a Spanish restaurant close to the Spanish consulate. Those attacks were blamed on Salafia Jihadia, a secretive, radical Islamic group that Moroccan authorities believe is linked to al-Qaida. In a crackdown of Islamic radical groups that followed, Moroccan authorities took about 6,000 people in for questioning, and the courts have convicted about 1,000 of them. In June, Spanish authorities arrested two Moroccan suspects accused of ties to the Casablanca attacks. Abdelaziz Benyaich, who has dual French-Moroccan nationality, is being held in Spain for a suspected role in preparing the May 16 attacks. He was arrested in the southern Spanish town of Algeciras. Hicham Temsemani was arrested in a train heading from Paris to Madrid and is suspected of helping finance the Casablanca attacks. He was extradited to Morocco on Friday, the official said.
He's not going to feel so well real soon now.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/14/2004 1:12:16 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If the Spanish are smart they will pull an Ashcroft and juggify everyone they have been watching for later expulsion. Most sailors know not to mess with the Guardia Civil (sp?).
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#2  OT but...

Fires: Why do they hate the Kremlin?
Posted by: Charles || 03/14/2004 14:42 Comments || Top||


Spain Votes in Election After Attacks
Spaniards voted Sunday in general elections thrown wide open by a reported al-Qaida claim that it staged deadly rail bombings last week to punish the government for supporting the U.S.-led war in Iraq. Protesters shouted "murderer" at the ruling party candidate as he cast his ballot.
What were the protesters protesting? The election? Did they vote? And what'd the voters shout, in anything?
Some voters also blamed the government for Spain's worst terror attack, saying President Jose Maria Aznar invited the attention of Osama bin Laden's terror group by allying Spain with Washington in the invasion that ousted Saddam Hussein. Fueling anger were suspicions that the government withheld information in the investigation to avoid political fallout from the Thursday bombings, which killed at least 200 people and wounded about 1,200. The government had initially blamed the Basque separatist group ETA. "I didn't intend to vote, but changed my mind," said Javi Martin, 30, who works for a TV station in Madrid. "And not because of the attacks, but because of the responsibility of the Popular Party. They gave out information drop by drop. It would have benefited them if it were ETA."
My guess is that they got information drop by drop and handed it out as they got it. Cheeze, I hate spin...
Evidence of al-Qaida involvement grew after the government announced finding a videotape in a trash can Saturday on which a man says the Islamic terror group was punishing Spain for its support of the Iraq war. An Arabic-speaking man called a Madrid TV station to say the tape was there, Interior Minister Angel Acebes said. Earlier in the day, three Moroccans and two Indians were arrested over the bombings, which killed 200 people and wounded 1,200. Spain's El Pais newspaper, citing the interior ministry, reported that the Moroccans are linked to Abu Dahdah, the jailed alleged leader of al-Qaida's Spanish cell. Authorities in Morocco said Sunday they could not confirm that. Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sunday it is too early to say whether al-Qaida was behind the bombings. "It's just premature to make a judgment. I don't think we know enough, and the Spanish are very good at these kinds of investigations. And I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of it," Powell said. Before the attacks, polls gave ruling the Popular Party and its candidate, Mariano Rajoy, a 3-5 percentage point lead over the Socialists and their leader Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero in the race for the 350-seat Congress of Deputies. President Aznar is not seeking a third term; in the outgoing legislature, his party had 183 seats.
Guess we'll know by this evening, won't we?
In the videotape, the male speaker says: "We declare our responsibility for what happened in Madrid," according to a government translation of the statement delivered in Arabic. "It is a response to your collaboration with the criminals Bush and his allies."
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 10:56:06 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Spain is one of the more prosperous countries in Europe. A number of years under a socialist agenda should level the economic playing field. This election is a combination gut-check and brain-check for their society. Which route will they choose after theirown Pearl Harbor?
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#2  The Iberian Notes blog is picking up and translating short biographies of each the victims as printed by a Spanish newspaper. I picked this one out more or less at randon:

"Inmaculada Castillo Sevillano, office worker, 39, Alcala de Henares. Inma was a widow; her husband had drowned when he was 31 and she was 29. She leaves two orphan children, a girl of 19 and a boy of 15. Inma had a hard road, working non-stop to support her children, to whom she was very close. Despite her misfortune, she was a lively and cheerful person, say her friends."

To which I would only add: Fuck you, Osama.
Posted by: Matt || 03/14/2004 13:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Truth has been trumped in the coverage of this tragedy. Yes, this is all spin re cover up. From the beginning the Spanish govt. has not discounted an AQ/Jihadi attack. Based on the evidence, they suspected more so ETA. We've all seen the evidence that would lead investigators to follow this trail. On TV, I saw the van found in the parking lot with the Arabic tapes and docs THE FIRST DAY of coverage. A cover up? Hardly. Then a couple of separate announcements made by Min of Interior himself on the arrests, then on the tape (audio or video?) pointing more to Jihadist groups. A cover up? Hardly. A cover up means just that. All ETA til after the election, not three days of announcements before polls open, thus weakening the govt in power, aka the evil conspirators. THEN admit a Jihadist plot. Le deroulement of the information coming out has been prompt. Oh, but say the anit-Bush/Aznar folks, we made the warmongers see how their plot would never work, so that is why they are telling us the truth now; we have imposed the will of the people on them and they have scurried. Vote them out! Thus, the discussion is not how to nails the bastards who perpetrated the act, but the guys who have to close the barn door. Has anyone noticed any criticism of the PP questioning if it allowed bombs to go off to place blame on ETA only to keep itself in power? I haven't. So why is there even any criticism at all of PP in this instance? Answer: Because Aznar let the Cowboy lead him around by the nose re Iraq, eventhough Spain was not part of invading force. IIRC, Spain sent trooops many months after The Statue came down. It's all about the Cowboy.

I have been ruminating a lot for the past year on how the WOT and Iraq and its intended and unintended consequences are portrayed and analyzed in the various spin machines of the appeasers in the public forums of activist groups and their sympathizers in the media. This relationship between the appeasers is our new Internationale. There are those in all NATO/EU countries and elsewhere who know deep down know that now is the time to take a stand. But it is the "awkward" way. These folks like Blair, Bush, Aznar, Berlusconi, the Polish govt, Dutch govt, Danish govt., Hungarian govt, et al, understand they will be ridiculed and painted at every opportunity as agents who have made our world more dangerous, while all they are doing is trying to clean up the mess left over from, number 1, the USSR's involvement in Afghanistan, the West's tossing up its hands in subsequent years after having failed to make the Afghan warlords and ethnic leaders give up a bit of power for the good of the county, thus creating the vaccuum for the ISI to bring in the Taliban.

The second mess to be cleaned up is the UN Coalition's inability to remove Saddam after GWI. How many times have we heard Kerry and Dean say that THAT was an example par excellence of multilateralism? Dean was spewing it out today on Meet the Press, as a matter of fact. The only problem with that arrangement was all had to agree to go up to Baghdad and remove him, and since the mission as laid out and agreed upon in the UNSC was only for the liberation of Kuwait, and not the overthrow of Saddam, Bush/UN/Saudis/Frogs/Brits got cold feet. We would have been oversteping the mandate, thus going against the international community so cher to Kerry/Dean. Which honest newspaper takes that line on a not only once, but continuous basis? None. Sure Steyn, Nat. Review, Weekly Standard do, but they are cancelled out by the Nation, Peter Jennings, et al. The New Republic is only Dem organ to think out of the box. Bravo to it. Back to my point. Thus the Current Coalition of the Willing today has to act since those who are criticizing today didn't do the job when it could have been done re Saddam

The awkward way, however, is the only way forward. Here's hoping the Spanish keep PP in power. Have a peaceful Sunday, folks.
Posted by: michael || 03/14/2004 16:24 Comments || Top||


You done it now. Allah is pissed
From AllahPundit
On a momentarily serious note, am I really supposed to give a shit now what Le Monde thinks about terrorism? After this, this, this, this, and dozens of other examples? After this I’m supposed to take them seriously? Hey, Le Monde? Go fuck yourself.

For all their yammering about human rights and transnationalism, Europeans of the Le-Mondean mindset don’t appear too troubled by terrorism until it’s their body parts lying on the sidewalk, do they? But fine. Here’s their chance to prove that they’re serious. Let’s see how brightly that outrage burns now as news spreads that the enemy isn’t a tiny band of Basque separatists after all. Will the Le-Mondeans of the world keep talking tough? Or will they shrink away and blame themselves instead? Only time will tell, but based on the early trends, I know which way I’m betting.

UPDATE: The leader of batshit Islamist death cult Al Muhajiroun says the Spanish got what was coming to them. The graphic at right is taken from the front page of Al Muhajiroun’s website; nice to see this sort of thing going on in the capital of European democracy.

UPDATE: Feel the heat of that European outrage! Meanwhile, an anonymous jackoff stops by the train station to remind mourners that they deserved it.
Go to the link and see the pic about what Mohammed little buddies in England think.
Posted by: ed || 03/14/2004 10:56:54 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ed, which house did they get? Was Hillary there?
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 13:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Le Mondeans--why do they hate us?
Posted by: Dar || 03/14/2004 19:25 Comments || Top||


This Is Not a Good Time to Be an Arab in Spain
Proof that al Qaeda or Islamic militants carried out the Madrid train bombings would be a nightmare scenario for Muslim residents of Madrid who fear it could fuel a new wave of animosity towards them. .... As one of 300,000 Moroccans, Spain’s biggest resident Muslim community, Ahmed said he was deeply saddened by the bombs on crowded trains which claimed 200 lives. "We don’t want it to be al Qaeda, just as the Basques don’t want it to be ETA. But what difference does it make, knowing who it was? We’re all affected," said a 13-year Madrid resident, who declined to give his full name.

High Court Judge Baltasar Garzon, an investigating magistrate who has led separate probes into al Qaeda and ETA, has said in court documents he believes al Qaeda had "sleeper cells" in Spain possibly awaiting orders to attack. Spain has jailed some two dozen al Qaeda suspects .... Last May, suicide bombers attacked a Spanish restaurant, a five-star hotel and a Jewish community centre in Casablanca killing 45 people, including 12 suicide bombers. Suspects in the Casablanca bombings and a 2002 synagogue bombing in Tunisia also have been arrested in Spain.

Lavapies, the city centre’s most multi-racial district, is no exception to the sombre air enveloping the rest of Madrid. ... Most of those interviewed in Lavapies hardly dared contemplate the possibility that al Qaeda may be to blame. ... "We don’t know who it is, we just have to count the bodies. They attacked the poorest people who were on the train at that time of the morning. Our people were killed too," Mustafa said. Those most willing in Lavapies to fully express those fears came from non-Muslim countries. "Not all Basques belong to ETA, nor all Arabs belong to al Qaeda. But if it turns out that al Qaeda is behind this tragedy people will turn against the Arabs around here," said Gema, a young shop assistant whose parents are from Vietnam. Moroccans said their lives in Spain were pretty good despite a recent crackdown on illegal immigration. Lavapies is often the scene of random police checks for residency cards. Asked if life will get worse if al Qaeda was behind Thursday’s killings, Mustafa said: "I hope not. Maybe they’ll come, and get me and they might get you too for talking to me." ....
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 03/14/2004 9:46:20 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not only is it not a good time to be an Arab in Spain, it's not a good time to be an Arab anywhere in the Western world; and it's going to get worse with each jihadi attack.

All Muslims in the Western world need to make one very fundamental change if they are to continue being tolerated: they must elevate their committment to respecting other peoples' rights to their own beliefs above their own committment to the veracity of Muhammed's teachings.

That's a real leap for them; it's going to be an extraordinarily difficult thing for them to do, and I'm not too confident they're up to the task.

But they'd damn well better do it, just like the rest of us have done with one another, or they're history.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/14/2004 10:29 Comments || Top||

#2  In January, the Detroit Free Press published an article on the contempt held by the local Arab community for an Arab enlistee in the war on terror. To me, the young man is a hero. Yet American Arabs treat him as a villian. So who are their heros? I learned to support, retroactively, the WW2 policy of interning Japanese residents (only 20% were citizens) in America during WW2. That can happen again, notwithstanding the compensation payback that the Carterites made to greedy Japs. We need disloyal neighbors, like my dog needs fleas.
Posted by: Man Bites Dog || 03/14/2004 10:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Is Islam so fragile that it cannot possibly exist surrounded by people who believe otherwise?

What is it that Muslims fear that can coax them to acts of violence against innocent bystanders?
Posted by: eLarson || 03/14/2004 11:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Beware illegal Moslem immigrants of Europe. Soon you will not be allowed to wear hankies on your head to school anywhere on the continent. What a crackdown.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 13:11 Comments || Top||

#5  "Is Islam so fragile that it cannot possibly exist surrounded by people who believe otherwise?"

In a sense, this hits the ol' nail right square on the head: it apparently thinks it's that fragile.

When I consider this "Allah" the Muslims worship, what I see is an immature, petulant, insecure god who cannot bear the thought of anyone not believing in him; a god who cannot abide human indifference and who craves attention; a god who feels compelled to stamp out all other gods, lest they diminish him.

The other major world religions have grown up. They have matured over the years, and become tolerant of people who believe differently.

But not Islam, which has progressed little since the Middle Ages. Islam has got a LOT of catching up to do- and time is running out.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/14/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#6  If they carry on the way there going, Islam will be banned in a few centuries or even decades, this 'religion of peace is just getting more and more like a fuckin death cult by the day.Islam is like something from the dark fuckin ages or even before.If i had my way it'd be banned tommorow,no right now.Hindus,Christians,Jews etc i have no problem with though, something about the way you can trust them and they don't maim and kill kids in the name of allen, sorry allah
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 14:10 Comments || Top||

#7 
This Is Not a Good Time to Be an Arab in Spain
Where's my nano-violin?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/14/2004 14:57 Comments || Top||

#8  Drag that out and start sawing away at it, and we won't be able to hear all the other sounds of sympathy. Use the femto-violin, instead.
Posted by: Dave D. || 03/14/2004 15:10 Comments || Top||

#9  Actually, if read literally, the Koran is a book of hate speech and should be banned.

Posted by: mhw || 03/14/2004 16:09 Comments || Top||

#10  No - this is a great time to be a muslim in Spain. Spain just voted for dhimmitude. All hail the re-reconquista!
Posted by: A Jackson || 03/14/2004 16:32 Comments || Top||

#11  Oh boo efing hoo!
This is always the first thing Muslims care about, their own selves and their 'image'.
Where's the muslim protests for modern day slave raids done in Islams name, or the myriad of terrorists attacks around the world done by their brethren?
You wont see that happening, well, unless they read this and figure they better spiffy up their 'image'.(Of the beast)
But boy oh boy will they pull out the droves around the world to protest a head scarf ban at schools in France.
Thank you France for that at least, showing what a bunch of hypocritical supremacists muslims are.
They should be thanking their lucky stars that that the infidels dont behave like they do.
But I bet the reaction will be instead for the Spanish CAIR to start asking the government to make everybody in Spain take sensitivity training. And play the call to prayer throughout Madrid as a show of unity, or some other assorted BS like that.
You can rest assured that muslims will once again be the REAL victims, just wait, it will get worse.
How long before muslims in Spain start bitching about the detainees who carried out the bombings civil rights? Place your bets.
(civil rights including halal means, a quran, and no humiliation of course)
Posted by: TS || 03/14/2004 19:01 Comments || Top||

#12  Sounds like they reached the "why do they hate us" phase a helluva lot sooner then I thought they would. They'll live to regret that. If they're lucky.
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/14/2004 21:28 Comments || Top||

#13  The other major world religions have grown up. They have matured over the years, and become tolerant of people who believe differently. But not Islam, which has progressed little since the Middle Ages. Islam has got a LOT of catching up to do- and time is running out.
Unfortunately, the nature of Islam itself prevents it from ever changing. Any change, any acceptance of other points of view, is heresy, punishable by death. Once a Muslim, always a Muslim, or dead. Since those are the only two choices, I suggest "DEAD".

I've spent far too much time studying Islam since 9/11, and nothing I've learned makes me any more willing to accept it as a religion of the "one true God". It is nothing but an excuse cult. Islam excuses Muslims from obeying ANY of the 10 commandments. Don't believe me? Read the $#%@$#@ Quran. It's ok to kill. It's ok to lie, cheat, steal, murder, rape, and do anything else you want, as long as it's not to "fellow Muslims" - and oh, BTW, it's ok to do it to them, if they don't believe the way you do. What a piece of unspewed fecal matter. It's time to treat Islam as the asshole cult it is, and destroy the whole damned thing.

I said once before on this site, Islam will be the source of the AntiChrist. Nothing in the past two years since I first said that has changed my mind. We need to fumigate the planet - there's a deadly illness out there, called Islam.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 03/14/2004 23:20 Comments || Top||


Jihadists Want Spanish Government to Say Al-Qaida Bombed the Trains
From Jihad Unspun
[The] London-based Al-Quds al-Arabi Arabic newspaper received an earlier claim of responsibility in al-Qaida’s name, as did Jihad Unspun, but the Spanish government has been reluctant to blame the group, saying the Basque separatist group ETA was the prime suspect, even though they have denied responsbility. This is thought to be because 90% of Spain was against the war on Iraqm and if Al-Qaida is seen as being behind Thursdays attack, it would likely swing the vote away from the ruling party as sentiments amongst the population would erupt against their countries involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar has been a staunch supporter of the U.S.-led war in Iraq and this latest attacks could spell real trouble for his party. ... There has now been three clear claims of responsibility from Al-Qaida and a complete denial of responsibility from ETA. It has also become obvious that the State is governing the Spanish media and that the government is trying to whitewash the repercussions of the country’s involvement in the killing fields of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 03/14/2004 9:36:55 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That's what the official press line is anyway. Aren't elections today - we'll see now, won't we?
Posted by: B || 03/14/2004 9:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Todays election in Spain will be a crucial test of whether western societies have the will to defeat the Jihadis. My prediction is they have and the Jihadis picked the wrong victims in the Spaniards.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 9:46 Comments || Top||

#3  I hope you're right Phil... but I'm not as sure as you. As a matter of fact I think your wrong but hope I'm wrong.

If they do vote out Aznar's party it's an amazing display of appeasement. For not only would they be falling to the demands of terrorists but they would be doing it at GREAT expense to themeselves. Aznar's party lowered unemployment in Spain from 22% to 11% in 8 years and raised incomes from 79% of the EU average to 89% of the EU average. They would give all this remarkable progress up and choose a socialist? Just because they are afraid to confront some terrorist who killed their children?

Maybe you're right though, we should find out soon. Does anyone know when the initial election results are available in Spain?
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/14/2004 9:59 Comments || Top||

#4  CNN has a Spanish election special at 22:00 GMT
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 10:06 Comments || Top||

#5  This is a side bar from a USA Today story.
A glance at Sunday's general elections in Spain:

WHAT'S AT STAKE: 879 candidates competing for 350 seats in parliament's lower house. The winning party or coalition forms next government for four-year term. In the Senate, 921 candidates are competing for 208 seats.

THE RACE: 34.57 million eligible to vote. Field consists of 12 established parties, with the ruling conservative Popular Party going up against the Socialists, the main opposition.

ISSUES: Terrorism was the leading issue even before 10 bombs tore through four trains, killing 200 in Madrid on Thursday. Other issues include high unemployment, soaring house prices and immigration.

RESULTS: Polls open at 3 a.m. ET Sunday; close at 2 p.m. ET Sunday. First results expected by 4 p.m. ET Sunday.
Posted by: GK || 03/14/2004 10:33 Comments || Top||

#6  YOU HEARD IT FIRST HERE FOLKS

HA! I just figured this out! Remember, the truth is that 2-8 million people showed up in a show of solidarity with Aznar leading the parade. The TV-radio press completely ignored it! And then they shamelessly gave major news coverage to a small protest of a couple thousand holding "PAZ" signs - upset with Aznar for supporting Bush and the WOT.

Not bad, eh? In less than 48 hours, the press has pulled out all stops and effectively managed to spin the lie that the Spaniards support Aznar only if ETA did it - but are against Aznar for supporting and Bush and the WOT if AQ did it. Thus, we are to believe, according to the press coverage, the Aznar government's landslide will be due to the fact that the government covered up the facts.

Ah...but my friends - this lie is not so much for the Spaniards - they KNOW why they marched 2 MILLION plus strong and why they voted for Aznar- this lie is for us.

Yes, Aznar will win by a landslide - ahhh...but it is only because their government organized a COVERUP to fool the Spanish people! A COVERUP I tell ya! It's NOT, as a reasonable person would conclude, a show that the civilized countries are finally fed up with terrorists and understanding that Bush was right about the nature of this war.

No...according to CNN, NPR, BBC, NBC, ABC, Fox, BBC... Anzar's landside election will be due to a coverup by the evil Anzar government.

I must say, I am impressed that they could manage to get this lie out there in less than 48 hours -and so successfully.

Good Job Gobbels! VERY IMPRESSIVE!!
Posted by: B || 03/14/2004 10:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Appeasement may work for Luxembourg, the "law enforcement" strategy didn't work so well for us. We are certainly a high value target, though.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 13:31 Comments || Top||

#8  Spain (and Europe, too) are at the inevideble crossroads:

Will they address the Islamist problem now by standing and defeating it, or

Will they start fighting among themselves and get Sharia and all its rights and privelages on the installment plan?

People can say all they want about Aznar's support for the US in Iraq, but the show has come to Spain, ready or not. The price is high, very high so far, but having your country taken over by infiltration or a very bloody action later will make the 200 dead and 1400 injured pale by comparison. After all, France, Italy, and other countries are waiting in the wings to see how this one plays out in Spain.

Folks, September 11, 2001 started the war against Islamofascism for the US. Bali did it for Indonesia. Madrid did it for Europe.

Spain and Europe, the ball is in your court, and you cannot walk away from this game.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/14/2004 15:52 Comments || Top||

#9  Nice take B.

I swear, the image I get of muslims living in western cultures is of Shmeagol. "we loves the master"
Posted by: Lucky || 03/14/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#10  I don't think it's gonna make much difference which side wins the election. Spanish pride will force the government to hit back hard at whomever was behind the bombing.
Posted by: Norman Rogers || 03/14/2004 20:37 Comments || Top||

#11  I don't think it's gonna make much difference which side wins the election. Spanish pride will force the government to hit back hard at whomever was behind the bombing.
Posted by: Norman Rogers || 03/14/2004 20:38 Comments || Top||

#12  mmm....munch, munch....crow pie ...yum,yum.

Guess I don't understand the Spaniards. I don't know much about Franco's rise to power. I guess the Europeans believe in appeasement like we believe in freedom.
Posted by: B || 03/15/2004 5:52 Comments || Top||


HIGH-TECH BOMBS WERE DETONATED BY CELL PHONES
The bombs used in this week’s Madrid massacres were sophisticated devices that contained copper detonators and were set off by cell phones, U.S. and Spanish investigators said yesterday. The 11 bombs used in the attacks - one did not explode - were carefully placed in commonly available backpacks aboard four trains and had alarms in each set to go off precisely at 7:39 a.m., investigators added. "This was a really professional job carried out by people who clearly knew what they were doing," said a U.S. counterterrorism official who has been briefed on the details of the Spanish investigation.

According to Spanish media reports, the backpacks were each stuffed with 22 pounds of a derivative of dynamite used in some land mines and artillery shells. U.S. officials said Spanish police were able to piece these important clues together from the 11th backpack in the wreckage of one of the trains in which the bomb apparently malfunctioned. That backpack contained explosive material and a copper cable connected to the explosives, as well as a loose unattached cell phone. Some counterterrorism officials told The Post devices and tactics used in the Madrid massacre, in some ways, has the hallmarks of the more sophisticated roadside bombs used against U.S. troops in Iraq - many of which were activated by cell phones. U.S. officials said that could suggest either al Qaeda or the vicious al Qaeda-connected network headed by Abu Musab Zarqawi.

Over the next few days, Spanish investigators and FBI agents will be studying this device as well as other forensics to look for what investigators call a chemical "signature" to try to determine who was responsible. Of particular importance is whether the explosive material found in the 11th backpack matches a batch stolen from France in 1999 that has been used by the Basque separatist group ETA in several bombings.
Posted by: The Boston Geostrategic Group || 03/14/2004 12:55:44 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This would match with claims ETA terrorists went to Iraq to aid and abet the Saddamite dead-enders, picked up a terror technique or two, and returned to Spain committed to perpetrating mass murder.
Posted by: Garrison || 03/14/2004 4:03 Comments || Top||

#2  ahaahah great so it is Saddam's fault once again. Aahahaa
Posted by: john || 03/14/2004 4:21 Comments || Top||

#3  This would match with claims ETA terrorists went to Iraq to aid and abet the Saddamite dead-enders, picked up a terror technique or two, and returned to Spain committed to perpetrating mass murder.

Well, I don't know if you could call it a FACT, Garrison :P. But it certainly is an indicator that there's cooperation going on at some level.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/14/2004 12:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Excuse me while I go off on one of my pet peeves. These are not high tech bombs. Twenty years ago they would have been. Twenty years ago, you would have needed someone with at least a BSEE to design a clock circuit and an interface to program it. Then you would have had to find someone who knew how to design circuit boards (by hand, since only big guys like IBM had board design CAD tools at that point). Then you'd have to make the board. Radio Shack had kits to do that stuff back in the day, but overall it'd take months for you to build 13 bombs. A lot of people would have to get involved and there'd be a lot of opportunities for leaks. Today you could build 13 bombs in a couple of days. Any semi-literate jihadi with a basic knowledge of soldering and a drawing could build and test them. There are dozens of ready made products to act as the timer that can be bought for just a few dollars each. One terror cell could do the whole operation from start to finish with only financing and explosives coming from the outside. And that's the whole problem. Tech has become so accessible and reliable that a three-person cell can kill hundreds. Four, four-man cells can kill three thousand. Thousands of really smart people worked for years to make cell phones as sophisticated as they now are. One retard following a recipe can make it into a dangerous weapon.
Posted by: 11A5S || 03/14/2004 16:03 Comments || Top||


Moroccan officials to follow up Madrid arrests
Moroccan security officials will travel to the Spanish capital, Madrid, to help in the investigation into the deadly bomb attacks there. Moroccan Communications Minister Nabil Benabdellah made the announcement just hours after Spanish Interior Minister Angel Acebes said three Moroccans and two Indians have been arrested in connection with the attacks. The Minister says the visit is Morocco's initiative. He says Moroccan security service personnel are already in Madrid following bombings.
Trying to track down Basque separatists, no doubt...
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 12:06:41 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: WoT
’Special skills draft’ on drawing board
Washington -- The government is taking the first steps toward a targeted military draft of Americans with special skills in computers and foreign languages.

The Selective Service System has begun the process of creating the procedures and policies to conduct such a targeted draft in case military officials ask Congress to authorize it and the lawmakers agree to such a request.

Richard Flahavan, a spokesman for the Selective Service System, said planning for a possible draft of linguists and computer experts had begun last fall after Pentagon personnel officials said the military needed more people with skills in those areas.

"Talking to the manpower folks at the Department of Defense and others, what came up was that nobody foresees a need for a large conventional draft such as we had in Vietnam," Flahavan said. "But they thought that if we have any kind of a draft, it will probably be a special skills draft."

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said he would not ask Congress to authorize a draft, and officials at the Selective Service System, the independent federal agency that would organize any conscription, stress that the possibility of a so-called "special skills draft" is likely far off.

A targeted registration and draft is "is strictly in the planning stage," said Flahavan, adding that "the whole thing is driven by what appears to be the more pressing and relevant need today" -- the deficit in language and computer experts.

"We want to gear up and make sure we are capable of providing (those types of draftees) since that’s the more likely need," the spokesman said, adding that it could take about two years to "to have all the kinks worked out. "

The agency already has in place a special system to register and draft health care personnel ages 20 to 44 in more than 60 specialties if necessary in a crisis. According to Flahavan, the agency will expand this system to be able to rapidly register and draft computer specialists and linguists, should the need ever arise. But he stressed that the agency had received no request from the Pentagon to do so.

The issue of a renewed draft has gained attention because of concerns that U.S. military forces are over-extended. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist strikes, U.S. forces have fought two wars, established a major military presence in Afghanistan and Iraq and are now taking on peacekeeping duties in Haiti. But Congress, which would have to authorize a draft, has so far shown no interest in renewing the draft.

Legislation to reinstitute the draft, introduced by Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., has minimal support with only 13 House lawmakers signing on as co- sponsors. A corresponding bill in the Senate introduced by Sen. Fritz Hollings, D-S.C., has no co-sponsors.

The military draft ended in 1973 as the American commitment in Vietnam waned, beginning the era of the all-volunteer force. Mandatory registration for the draft was suspended in 1975 but resumed in 1980 by President Jimmy Carter after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. About 13.5 million men, ages 18 to 25, are registered with the Selective Service.

But the military has had particular difficulty attracting and retaining language experts, especially people knowledgeable about Arabic and various Afghan dialects.

To address this need, the Army has a new pilot program underway to recruit Arabic speakers into the service’s Ready Reserves. The service has signed up about 150 people into the training program.

A Pentagon official familiar with personnel issues stressed that the armed forces were against any form of conscription but acknowledged the groundwork already underway at the Selective Service System.

"We understand that Selective Service has been reviewing existing organizational mission statements to confirm their relevance for the future," the official said. "Some form of ’special skills’ registration, not draft, has been a part of its review."


Posted by: Frank Martin || 03/14/2004 9:44:06 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is a dumb move as it is a political non-starter. If they are having a hard time finding people with these skills, I suggest a skill bonus paid in US $. At some price appropriately skilled workers willing to join the military will come out of the woodwork.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/14/2004 22:11 Comments || Top||

#2  That's great - finally an American IT job that won't be outsourced. :-)
Posted by: A Jackson || 03/14/2004 22:41 Comments || Top||

#3  This is an overall BAD idea. Destined to die a hideous and painful death... No matter how 'Specialized' it may be, it's still a Draft. And the Draft destroyed the Military in and after Vietnam!
Posted by: Jack Deth || 03/14/2004 23:30 Comments || Top||

#4  I think we need to stop and look at the legislators referenced as backing a draft. Rangel and Hollings! Not gonna happen.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 03/14/2004 23:37 Comments || Top||


Steyn: Iraqi spy case shows media at it again
EFL - Fair Use - Go read it all
Anyone who wants to understand why the media are held in such low regard by the public -- in polls of the most respected professions we usually come somewhere between Nigerian e-mail scammers and serial pedophiles -- should consider the following headline from an Associated Press story in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer last week:

’’Accused Spy Is Cousin Of Bush Staffer’’

The accused spy is Susan Lindauer, who is accused of working for Saddam Hussein’s intelligence agency. She describes herself merely as an "anti-war activist,’’ though, as the daily rummage through the Baathists’ scrupulous paperwork indicates more clearly every day, being an anti-war activist and on the Saddamite payroll are by no means mutually exclusive.
$10,000??? She should’ve got oil like Galloway did!
Before she allegedly became an Iraqi agent, Lindauer spent a decade in Washington working for four members of Congress: Peter DeFazio, Ron Wyden, Carol Moseley Braun and Zoe Lofgren. What do these four legislators have in common? Answer: They all have a ’’D’’ after their name.
as in D’oh!
But to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer’s headline writer the salient fact about Lindauer is not her 10 years of work for the Democratic Party but the amazing revelation that she is a second cousin of Bush chief of staff Andrew Card.

A second cousin! Hold the front page!

Here’s an easy test for the publisher, editor and news staff of the paper:
  1. Name all your second cousins.

  2. Where do they live?

  3. When did you last see them?
It’s one thing for the press to be anti-war and feel Saddam should be given another decade or two to come into compliance with Security Council resolutions. It’s quite another to be so smitten with the old butcher that your copy editors internally absorb Baath Party tribal politics and assume that mere second cousinship with members of the Bush clan automatically puts you in the inner circle. To be fair to the Associated Press, they sent the story out on the wires with the headline, ’’Woman Named In Spy Case Worked As Journalist, Congressional Aide.’’

What’s that? ’’Worked As Journalist’’? Well, there’s an angle the Seattle guys unaccountably missed. Before she went to work for the Democratic Party, Lindauer worked for . . . the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. Instead of the cousin thing, the headline writer might more usefully have written:

’’Accused Spy Used To Sit At Desk Next To Mine; I Made Clumsy Pass At Her At 1992 Office Party.’’

I’d love to see these headline writers working in Hollywood: ’’Austin Powers, The Spy Who Shagged Me’’? ’’Well, to be honest we thought it sounded punchier as ’Austin Powers, The Spy Who Shagged Someone Who Used To Go To School With Someone Who Was A Cousin Of Someone Who Was Briefly Married To A Receptionist At Halliburton. When Cheney Worked There!’ ’’

Look, these are serious times. Week after week, more details emerge of the extraordinary number of influential Westerners, from French government ministers to the head of the U.N. Oil-for-Food program, who appear to have been in the pay of Saddam. That’s, among other things, what Susan Lindauer is accused of.
see?
But we don’t have a serious press for these serious times. Boring and self-important is not the same as serious. But one reason why John Kerry calculates he can get away with damning the Bush administration as ’’crooks’’ and ’’liars’’ is because he figures he can count on the mainstream media doing what the Post-Intelligencer did -- instinctively framing every issue in anti-Bush terms, no matter how ludicrously. I suppose it’s not entirely impossible that one reason the Post-Intelligencer guys went with their spy-Bush linkage is because Lindauer has been accused of betraying her country and Al Gore accused Bush of ’’betraying’’ the country, too. But that’s one more reason why Bush will win in November: The media and the Democrats are sustaining each other in their delusions.

Sen. Kerry thinks the Bush administration are ’’crooked’’ and ’’lying.’’ The Bush ’’lie’’ boils down to this: The president believes there’s a war on. The Dems think 9/11 is like the 1998 ice storm or a Florida hurricane -- just one of those things. And they think Bush is ’’lying’’ by insisting on playing it as a war.

As it happens, the only big political ’’lie’’ in recent days came from Kerry, who told a meeting in Florida, ’’I’ve met foreign leaders who can’t go out and say this publicly, but boy, they look at you and say, ’You’ve got to win this, you’ve got to beat this guy.’ ’’ The senator has spent most of the last year in Iowa and New Hampshire, which, for all their charms, are not where one goes to rub shoulders with ’’foreign leaders.’’ Jacques Chirac could have driven over the Granite State border from Quebec’s Eastern Townships, where he was vacationing last summer. But he didn’t. Kerry does not appear to have ’’looked at’’ any foreign leaders since he began his campaign.
so it was a lie...that’s why he said that about Bush and Cheney - he was projecting his own faults
And, if he had, he’d find them far less well-disposed to him than he imagines. Last Thursday, March 11, 2-1/2 years to the day after Sept. 11, nearly 200 people were murdered by terrorists in Spain. Like Britain, Australia and Poland, Spain is a member of what John Kerry calls Bush’s ’’fraudulent coalition.’’
Just a reminder when you hear Kerry talk about "Benedict Arnold" CEO’s who send work overseas, putting Americans out of work: Heinz (remember that name?) has 57 (fortuitous number eh?) factories overseas
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 8:38:26 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well Frank,
What do you expect from a newspaper called "Post" Intelligencer. (AKA "what's left after you remove the last trace of intelligence from something")
Posted by: The Dodo || 03/14/2004 10:01 Comments || Top||

#2  $10,000??? She should’ve got oil like Galloway did!

I'm sure they offered it to her, but she wanted solar-energy credits instead....
Posted by: Pappy || 03/14/2004 12:38 Comments || Top||

#3  As I posted yesterday, the thing I noticed first is that the lady in question is from Takoma Park, Maryland (during the cold war it was called the Peoples's republic of Takoma Park because of its 'nuclear free zone' and other policies. It also had a sister city relationship with a town in the old Soviet Union for a few years until it was discovered that the sister city was a prison camp.
Posted by: mhw || 03/14/2004 14:35 Comments || Top||

#4  #3 mhw:
It [Tacoma Park] also had a sister city relationship with a town in the old Soviet Union for a few years until it was discovered that the sister city was a prison camp.
And this was a problem to Tacoma Park why, exactly?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/14/2004 18:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Whatever!... Try her for Treason. Milk her for any and all information that may be useful. Then take her out and have her shot!
Posted by: Jack Deth || 03/14/2004 23:24 Comments || Top||


Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, and Ramzi Yousef (Part 5)
I wrote this. Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4
Ramzi Yousef grew up in a Pakistani-Palestinian family in Kuwait. His family moved back to Pakistan in 1986, but he soon moved to England to study electrical engineering. He moved back to Pakistan in 1991 and immersed himself in the network of guesthouses and camps there that housed and trained terrorists from many foreign countries. He used his education to teach bomb-making skills.

It was then and there that he met a Filipino Moslem who invited him to teach for a while in the southern, Moslem area of the Philippines. Yousef spent several months there and then returned to Pakistan in mid-1992 and resumed teaching there.

During this period he met a West-Bank Palestinian named Ahmed Mohammed Ajaj. Back in 1988 in Palestine, Ajaj had been arrested by the Israeli police and was sentenced to two-and-a-half years in an Israeli prison. He served only one year of that sentence, apparently because he agreed to work as an informant for Israeli intelligence. Ajaj was soon arrested again and was "deported" (his name is not listed with other deported persons) in April 1991 and so became involved with radical Moslem groups abroad. After a while in Pakistan, this convicted counterfeiter of US currency was granted a visa to enter the United States, using his true name, on September 9, 1991. He settled in Houston, Texas, applied for political asylum, and worked for a pizzeria. Just seven months later, in April 1992, he left the United States, traveling with a false name, and returned to Pakistan. There he where he met Yousef and agreed to accompany him back to the United States for the purpose of exploding terrorist bombs. They flew into the United States, Ajaj traveling under a false name and with a Swedish passport, on September 1, 1992.

Ajaj was immediately arrested at the airport on September 1, 1992, and then imprisoned. Customs officials found bomb-making manuals in Ajajs’ luggage and confiscated them. Ajaj maintained indirect but regular telephone contact from prison, however, with Yousef during the following five months as the latter prepared to bomb the World Trade Center. Ajaj and Yousef communicated through telephone message relayed through a friend (I have never seen his name publicly identified) who operated the Big Five Hamburger stand in Balch Springs, a Dallas suburb.

In mid-November 1992, Yousef and a few of his New York collaborators began making telephone calls to various companies in order to try to buy the materials that would be used to manufacture their bombs. After they achieved initial successes in that effort, Yousef intensified his contacts with Ajaj, beginning in early December, in order to try to obtain Ajaj’s confiscated bomb-making manuals because Yousef needed some precise details from them.

On December 29, 1992, a call from Ajaj was transferred to Yousef, permitting the two to speak directly. (The call was recorded by, at least, the prison administration.) In the conversation, Ajaj immediately brought up the terrorist kit informing Yousef that the Court had ordered the Government to return Ajaj’s belongings. When Yousef asked if he could take possession of Ajaj’s things, Ajaj readily agreed at first. He then said that it was not a good idea for Yousef personally to obtain the materials from the Government because it might jeopardize Yousef’s "business," which, Ajaj said, would be "a pity!" As Ajaj well knew, Yousef’s only "business" in the United States was to pursue the bomb plot the two conspirators had hatched together overseas earlier that year. Ajaj then suggested that Yousef send someone else to pick up the materials. The outcome of that suggestion is not publicly known.

In December 1992 Yousef called Eyad Ismoil, who was living in Dallas, Texas. Subsequently, on February 22, 1993, Ismoil joined Yousef in New York. Yousef and Ismoil supervised the driving of the bomb-laden truck to the World Trade Center on February 26, and then they both flew away from the United States later that same day.

=========

During the late summer and fall of 1992, Timothy McVeigh’s life became extraordinarily depressed. He was stuck working as a security guard near Niagra Falls, New York. He became a recluse and dropped out of the National Guard. He checked into a veteran’s hospital, complaining of a skin rash and filed a claim for benefits due to Gulf War Syndrom.

Then in November, his old friend Terry Nichols, along with his wife Marife, traveled from Decker, Michigan, to visit him for a week. That same month, McVeigh called another dealer, William Pfaff to inform him that he could now provide some blast simulators that Pfaff had requested several months later. In addition, McVeigh told Pfaff, he could also supply antidotes for chemical weapons. A few weeks later, McVeigh quit his security-guard job and, now full of vitality and plans, devoted himself entirely to selling weapon-related equipment at gun shows.

Meanwhile, Terry and Marife Nichols flew to the Philippines and spent the month of January there. Terry supposedly tried to set up some kind of business there but changed his mind, so the family returned to the United States in early February, 1993.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 03/14/2004 1:23:19 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Southeast Asia
Troops Discover New MILF Camp
Government forces had stumbled on a jungle camp of the separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) in the mountains of Zamboanga del Norte province on Mindanao Island, the military said yesterday. MILF rebels had apparently abandoned the camp in the town of Sirawai even before security forces could arrive, said Lt. Col. Renoir Pascua, the Southern Command’s information chief.
"Cheezit! Da cops!"
He said the encampment, about a kilometer wide, could accommodate some 300 persons and had a network of bunkers and trenches and a small area in what troops described probably as a graveyard. Pascua accused the MILF of violating a cease-fire agreement when it illegally constructed the encampment. “The construction of the rebel camp is a violation by the MILF of the cease-fire agreement it signed with the government (last year),” he told Arab News.
I am overwhelmed by surprise. Really.
The MILF admitted establishing the Camp Salman Al-Farise in Sirawai’s mountain complex called Sipakit, which the military claimed is being used as a springboard for terror attacks in Mindanao. It was not immediately known if the abandoned rebel camp was part of the MILF’s Camp Salman Al-Farise, one of 46 camps of the MILF in Mindanao.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 12:01:07 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Suprise meter: 000.000

Doh!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 03/14/2004 0:42 Comments || Top||

#2  A MILF camp!!
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 7:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Frank--Tell you what--If I find the MILF camp first, I'll send you the directions, as long as you'll do the same for me?

"Hello, ladies! We're from Camp Rantburg™—over there across the lake!"
Posted by: Dar || 03/14/2004 19:30 Comments || Top||


Another ceasefire shoot-out with MILF
Fierce fighting erupted Wednesday between government soldiers and MILF forces in Sipakit, leaving a rebel dead and two others wounded on both sides. The Southern Command said about 200 gunmen attacked patrolling government forces and triggering a firefight that lasted more than six hours. The fighting erupted ahead of the expected arrival of a small group of Malaysian truce observers next week. MILF spokesman Eid Kabalu said, however, that government troops attacked their camp without any provocation, apparently to sabotage the peace process.
Yep. Happens all the time.
Kabalu claimed the assault was nevertheless repelled despite the use of attack helicopters. Pascua denied the accusation yesterday and insisted that rebels violated the truce.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 12:01:07 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Armed Uprising in Iran
From SMCCDI (dissident news service)
Deadly clashes rocked, today, the northern city of Fereydoon-Kenar located by the Caspian sea in the Mazandaran province. Several protesters have been killed and tens of other wounded and arrested. Several official buildings, including the Security divison, have been damaged as the crowd retaliated to the regime forces extreme brutality and use of lethal force. The situation is very tense and the regime forces have blocked all accesses to the city in order to avoid the spread of riots to the neighboring cities, such as, Babolsar and especially Amol where sporadic clashes have happened in the last days.
"Korshid," a regular at the dissident BB ActivistChat has posted some quite dramatic pictures of the Feyerdoonkenar uprising and also reports that the home of the local chief mullah has been burned to the ground(more pics at link):
More from Activist Chat at this link.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 03/14/2004 1:43:07 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Could this finally be it?
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/14/2004 2:27 Comments || Top||

#2  be real sweet if it is starting to roll, a revolution in time for the election would be nice fo GWB. lets hope eh
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 4:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Please let it be so. Time is running out for the Iranian people with the Mullahs going full bore for their nukes.

Thing is, noone has told the Iranian people of the responsibiliites and consequences of having nuclear weapons have they?

Hang those fuckers by their turbans!
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 03/14/2004 4:41 Comments || Top||

#4  if any of you ever read AFM (air forces monthly) last year they did an article on a possible strike on Iran and its Nuclear program.Seems like the hardest part is knowing where to draw the line.Seriously if you hit the nuke plants you also have to hit the airdefenses which in turn means you have to hit the command, control and comms systems, then you've also got to factor in the Iranian airforce and thier capable fleet of fighters so they would need destroying on the ground or in the air as well as thier airbases and infustructure, then you wonder what thier army are gonna do about it so you then have to hit all thier mobile 'Scud' type launchers and thier supporting units, then you got the Iranian navy to think of are they gonna start wrecking tankers in the gulf and attackin Allied vessals there? Basically its all out war or nothing with them as there not gonna take it lying down, my plan is simply have an Ohio class sub or two in the gulf waters unleash Atomic hell on them before they even know anything about it, problem solved
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 5:32 Comments || Top||

#5  John Shep

I really think some people of the USAF should be sent to take classes in Israel: there they would learn that it is possible to hit a nail on the head without hamùmering the entire house.
Posted by: JFM || 03/14/2004 6:03 Comments || Top||

#6  This is good and bad. Good that the Iranian people are finally rebeling. Bad that when the Mullahs send in the troops, they'll be slaughtered. I sure hope the Mullahs don't test The Bomb on them too.
Posted by: Charles || 03/14/2004 7:38 Comments || Top||

#7  be a shame if someone, say.....west of Iran...were to help arm the students?
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 7:54 Comments || Top||

#8  If the regular army comes in on the side of the uprising, its show time.
Posted by: mhw || 03/14/2004 8:14 Comments || Top||

#9  mhw, that's what I heard in one article posted here, that the regulars are pro-American ...

P.S. Yes, I'm none other than Lu Baihu ...
Posted by: Edward Yee || 03/14/2004 10:16 Comments || Top||

#10  Frank G makes a good point. Iraq could potentially become a base for a bdemocratic Iranian resistance. Hopefully we will be in a position to play this card soon.

However, when I see these protests and read articles about young Iranians, I question if these students would be willing to take up arms vs. just protesting in the street. The Mullahs are playing for keeps while the students want to listen to techno.

I have read more promising stories that the Mullah's are starting to alienate the professional military. It could be that military disloyalty in Iran is the more likely route to destabilization of the Mullarchy. The young people would then follow those willing to take up arms.
Posted by: JAB || 03/14/2004 10:26 Comments || Top||

#11  JFM, trust me, the IAF has no lessons to teach USAF regarding precise targetting.

If USAF takes down the whole house, it's because they choose to. And if they hit a single nail on the head, it isn't because they are unable to level the house if they chose to do that, either.

It's a question of doctrine, not ability.
Posted by: rkb || 03/14/2004 11:52 Comments || Top||

#12  Things like this have happened recently before too. It seems like the frequency is increasing but they always seem to be squashed by the government. Its hard to tell where this will go. My gut feeling is this will fizzle out and the instigators will disappear. I feel like the locals want change but haven't reached the boiling point yet and that not until something big around Tehran happens will any of this amount to more than a tragic incident.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 03/14/2004 11:52 Comments || Top||

#13  Too Soon.

Wait a few weeks - the weather sets in a lot nicer - not too hot nor too cool and the rainy times have passed.

And, interestingly enough, the universities get out as well, letting large numbers of students into the streets with nothing better to do, and a lot of time and nice weather to do it in.

This is just a rumble so far - the real storm is building and isnt here yet.
Posted by: OldSpook || 03/14/2004 12:09 Comments || Top||

#14  Question: Are these Medes and Persians or Azeris?
Posted by: 11A5S || 03/14/2004 13:43 Comments || Top||

#15  and, as usual, nothing in the big media about this (not even Fox)
Posted by: mhw || 03/14/2004 14:43 Comments || Top||

#16  Wonder if Kerry will criticize the people for rebelling agaist "democratically elected government"?After all,if Bush opposes the mad Mullahs they must be okay.
Posted by: Stephen || 03/14/2004 16:09 Comments || Top||

#17  rkb

It is not about the pilot putting the ammunition where it has to be but about the fact that Israel levelled Osirak while the USAF people feel that they cannot bomb without first dealing with private Mahmoud who is armed with a sling and is three hundred miles from the action.
Posted by: JFM || 03/14/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||

#18  JFM,

The fundamental problem is that Iran sits on one coast of the Persian gulf and the mouth of the Hormuz straits. They can close it at any time. All it takes is some artillery or even mortars.

If the Hormuz strait is closed, the US will survive. It gets a small portion of it's oil from the Gulf. The same is not true of Europe and Asia.
Posted by: ed || 03/14/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#19  11A5S in this area they are Farsi speakers, i.e. ethnic persians, but with a distintive dialect. There are Kurds in the nearby mountains, but my guess is the crowds are predominately persians.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 17:25 Comments || Top||

#20  Thanks Phil. That makes me feel a little better after the Spanish news.
Posted by: 11A5S || 03/14/2004 17:32 Comments || Top||


Iran bans UN nuclear inspectors
I guess now they're officially toast...
Iran says it has imposed an indefinite ban on the United Nations nuclear inspectors. The ban is in response to a resolution by the International Atomic Energy Agency, which accuses Iran of keeping some of its nuclear activities secret. The move has been announced by the man in charge of Iran's nuclear program, Hassan Rohani.
That was stoopid. Even if you've got something to hide, you still drag the discussions out for months, even years. Dumbass.
Mr Rohani says the reason for the suspension is because the resolution does not reflected the true reality of Iran's cooperation with the agency. On Friday, Iranian officials in Vienna had originally blamed the postponement on Iran's upcoming New Year holidays. The decision to suspend agency visits is likely to increase suspicion among some countries that Iran has something to hide.
... since it's now really obvious they do.
The United States has long held that Iran is secretly developing nuclear weapons. Iran says its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only. Meanwhile, the US is to increase its military presence in the former Soviet Republic of Azerbaijan, which borders Iran. A senior American military official say the Government had agreed to allow US forces to use Azeri air bases for the deployment of American troops. Washington has expressed concern about potential terrorist threats in the Caspian region but is also keen to protect oil exports there.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 12:06:15 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That was stoopid. Even if you've got something to hide, you still drag the discussions out for months, even years. Dumbass.

We better hope they're just stupid. The other reason for dismissing inspectors has a big flash and giant mushrooms involved.
Posted by: Charles || 03/14/2004 0:41 Comments || Top||

#2  So long as nobody sees the B-2, what's the problem with a big flash and giant mushrooms?
Posted by: snellenr || 03/14/2004 0:45 Comments || Top||

#3 
Iran says it has imposed an indefinite ban on the United Nations nuclear inspectors.
Nope, surprise meter didn't budge. Wonder if I should check the batteries?

Snellenr: ROFLMAO
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/14/2004 1:27 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder how many resolutions it can't enforce the UN will pass as a result of this.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 3:36 Comments || Top||

#5 

I had an odd experience last week. I was watching the Independent Film Channel and they had a special on an Iranian remake of Charley Chaplin's, "The Kid." Apparently this was done entirely accidentally, almost subconsciously in that the film maker, Iranian, had seen Chaplin's version many years ago.

What was odd was that Chaplin is apparently revered to a degree in Iran and, along with ayatollahs, he also is painted large on the side of buildings. There was some distinct cognitive dissonance in seeing them almost side by side.

There were man in the street interviews on film, even some comment from a smiling Burka clad young woman...

And you know, watching then speak, looking out of the car window as it drove through Tehran and looking at everyone on the sidewalks...Why...

...They seemed just like regular people.

Just like you and I.

(This seems to be an important thought especially for someone like me that is...almost unreasonably anti-Islamic. ie, my train of thought today was, on learning of new delays in Nuclear inspections in Iran...{The US should announce that the Iranian Nuclear plants will be taken out in a week...apologize in advance profusely...but even if they are buried too deeply, well we will take that ground for a short period with Infantry and destroy it that way} Sorrrrry).

This is not a reasonable position...but then, Iran have a Nuclear Weapon isn't reasonable either...lol

So I suppose it was somewhat reassuring to notice that, by in large, Iranians are people...just like you or I.

But also soon with an Atomic Weapon...or two.
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/14/2004 4:42 Comments || Top||

#6  Hummm...the above missive was posted by Moi...it seems that occassionally my computer is switching, willy-nilly, to Anomymous mode. My apologizes. Last time this happened someone asked who I was, in a friendly enough way...so, if I'm going to any heat on this...it is best to fess-up right now...lol
Posted by: Traveller || 03/14/2004 4:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Snelenr - good one!

Anonymous - yes the Iranians are just ordinary people like you and me, which makes it all the more depressing that those fuckhead mullahs are in charge and are taking them down a route where American, Chinese, Russian and other countries warheads will start to have new locations dialled into them.

The first an average Iranian might know of his countries wonderful new nuclear weapons program is when his eyes melt in his head and he burns like a torch.

Damn it! - kill these fuckers now before it's too late.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 03/14/2004 4:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Dear Tony:

John Shep, also of the UK, posts under the "Uprising," story military difficulities in just taking out the Nuclear plants in Iran. He thinks it can't be done without our going Nuclear ourselves.

I disagree, I think it can be done Militarily. With some loses of course. But should it be done? Are there things going on, such as the rioting in the North of Iran, (CIA inspired? Not that this would be a bad thing), that would suggest caution and waiting it out a little longer?

But waiting a little longer allowed Pakiland to go Nuclear...Tough decisions in regards to Iran.

I still like my plan in my post above...you got a better one to get the job done?
Posted by: Traveller || 03/14/2004 6:26 Comments || Top||

#9 
US is to increase its military presence in the former Soviet Republic of Azerbaijan
Now would be a good time for a lot of public discussion of Iranian discrimination against its Azerbaijan minority.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 03/14/2004 9:27 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm afraid I don't have a plan at all Traveller, all I'm saying is that the average Iranian is being led to the edge of an abyss by people who've stated that they'd like to drop one of their first bombs on Israel. The response would be devastating for the Iranians.

I can't honestly see the US doing what you've suggested, but stranger things have happened (Libya going non-nuclear for instance). However, if the US were to do something like that, I'd raise a glass or three in thanks!

If I do have a plan, it's a decapitation strike.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 03/14/2004 10:29 Comments || Top||

#11  While the administration diplomacy has been lousy at best, there was the legitimate point that non-proliferation without teeth isn't worth a bucket of warm spit. Not that I expect the relevant people to take this seriously.
Posted by: Hiryu || 03/14/2004 11:37 Comments || Top||

#12  When the Iranians paraded thier military hardware 5 or 6 months ago (i think) they had thier latest long range missile there and i cant remember if it was the missile or the launcher but it had 'Death to Israel' written on it. There couldn't have been a clearer message from them. As you would expect the launchers were the top item in the whole parade and were the focus of the black hats attention
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 13:35 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
‘Osama’ tape urges clerics to form jihad council
Hitherto unreported parts of a message said to come from Osama urge clerics and leaders to form a council to rally and arm Muslims for holy war against the West, a Web site reported on Saturday. Al Jazeera television had in January aired parts of an audiotape that the US said was “likely” from Bin Laden. The Dirasat Web site carried the full text. The message said the proposed council should help Muslim fighters obtain light arms, rocket propelled grenades and anti-tank mines. “Scholars, influential leaders and merchants should meet in a safe place, far from the shadow of the tyrannical (Arab) regimes, and form a council to fill the void created by the toppling of these regimes or by their mental incapacity,” the message said.
I thought they were already doing that? Like every Friday...
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 4:47:07 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  how nice! Let us know where you're meeting and we'll provide the cluster bombs. Many thanks
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 19:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Beat me to it, Frank! Get em in one place and provide a MOAB to mark the spot.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/14/2004 20:46 Comments || Top||


Trolls and Spam
Crude Oil & National Security in the Age of Terror

CRUDE COMMENTARY

By Mark Espinola, March 14th, 2004

Is the American public looking at another surge in summer driving, gasoline pump prices of between $2.25 to $2.75, or higher in key urban-metro areas or the West Coast? Prices could conceivable reach into the stratosphere if one or two international ’incidences’ occur adversely effecting world-wide energy supplies flowing to American shores.

At present, crude oil prices are bouncing between a staggering $35.50 to $37.00 per barrel. The energy complex as a whole is being threatened with further hefty price hikes due in part to world-wide al-Qa’ida terror attacks, OPEC’s deliberate, coordination of petroleum production cut backs, coupled with the very tense political dilemma in OPEC’s closest supplier to the port of Miami, South America’s oil giant, Venezuela. Red China’s increased mammoth consumption is yet another prime factor fuelling an already volatile global supply problem.

What if there was a serious ’problem’ located in the heart of OPEC, the oil rich Middle-East? Sa’udi Arabia maybe? How about some chaos sweeping terrorist instigating Islamic Iran? Further reductions in Iraq’s oil flowing to the west caused by Muslim saboteurs, or trouble in the major Gulf producing states would throw additional fear into the oil markets.

The early pre-Spring of 2004 is already proving to be an expense one for motorists. Cruise into any gas station and ’fill er up’ and find out it is getting pricey out there. The Summer of 2004 may prove inflation will begin to raise it’s ugly head due to excessive, long lasting energy pricing, just in time for the presidential election.

The Islamic terrorist planers of September 11th’s mass murders taking place on U.S. soil were hoping to totally decapitate the very top of the United States government, plus severely damage the American economy in one massive attack out of the high-jacked skies.

Fortunately the jihadic-would-be-destroyers of western civilization failed in their evil endeavours. The growing problem we have as Americans is, in some circles within the political fabric, the lessons resulting from the appalling high cost of 9-11’s loss of American lives, which were supposedly learned on that tragic day in early September of 2001, have soon been forgotten by those seeking the highest office in the land and the Dem political machine. The determined enemy is watching intently and seeking to take advantage of America’s election period political disunity, dividing our nation once again.

Even though the fiendish, fanatical Muslim sneak attack plot to dismember the economic leader of the western world was not successful, in early March of 2004 the U.S. economy is bordering on instigating an energy related inflationary spiral -if- the prevailing benchmark price of crude oil sustains itself for more than 3 to 4 months -or- worse, shoots beyond $37.00 a barrel and begins ascending into the low $40.00’s, remaining at those precarious price levels for whatever the reasons for an extended time frame. The high cost of energy will be tagged on to all purchased consumer goods, and that spells -inflation-!

The fanatical leadership of world-wide jihad is more than mindful of American economic vulnerabilities, in relation to fully exploiting crude oil as a geostrategic weapon choice to inflict indirect economic devastation through the back door.

They, the 9-11 enemy, are equally cognizant the U.S. Dollar has been in dire straits for a number of months up against the soaring Euro, in the daily currency trading market blitzkriegs. Not all that favour jihadic terrorism as a tool for a dreamed global Muslim empire are lurking in remote mountian caves. Some within the movement for jihad are playing the oil markets, bond issues and stocks, making contributions to the cause of jihad, tallying into the millions of dollars, euros & yen.

This enemy of the free world also understands historically how to influence the politics of presidential elections, and would likely desire John Kerry, the unknown factor ’liberal’, in place of the well known anti-terrorist factor, President George Bush. This President is the very same guy who defeated and captured the once mighty Saddam, and also removed the fanatical 7th century thinking Taliban from total control in Kabul, leaving arch-butcher Osama bin Laden to become either the most hunted cave dweller in history, or an extremely rare Sunni guest of the Shi’ite terrorist promoting state of Iran.

One side note of energy interest: More than two-thirds of U.S. oil consumption is in the transportation sector, where energy demand grows at full throttle.

Al-Qai’da’s continued long range goal is the future establishment of a pan-Islamic Caliphate throughout the world by working with allied Islamic extremist groups. Spain being the latest ’double victim of al-Qa’ida’s goal of Caliphatism with it’s 10 bomb attack on Madrid’s subway system has resulted in some Spanish voters blaming the victims of terror, the conservative government and of course the general public, but not blaming the real terrorists and assisting the current anti-terrorist leader, prime minister José Maria Aznar.

Spain & Portugal, once under the control of the ’Moors’ from the early 700’s, until being defeated in the year 1492, is viewed as lost Islamic territory of the greater Muslim Caliphate of the Middle Ages. Osama bin-Laden is letting be known the Madrid bombings could be the first wave of terror attacks in land he considers easy targets within the E.U. especially nations which have been vocal in their support of the American-British led Coalition forces combating Muslim fanatics in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Radical Islamists in the al-Qa’ida movement are willing to link themselves with leftist ’infidels’ as long as their service proves useful to greater jihadic goals of absolute conquest of the West. The left should recall, they too shall be destroyed unless they ’submit’ to ’Allah’.

Venezuela’s ultra-leftist dictator, Hugo Chavez is the dictator of a non-Islamic OPEC member state, plus being a terrorist supporter of anti-American causes. Chavez is an ally of the monomaniacal Muslim jihadists. Cuba’s Castro is a communist comrade in arms of Mr Chavez. Whether rabidly Muslim rouge states, or communistic tyrants like the North Korean slave state, the enemies of Washington have clearly forged an alliance of evil.

The well financed Islamic enemy retains the threat of intended or actual disruptions of the globe’s energy flow to western nations. The ongoing threat is like a terrorist sword of Damocles hovering out there, somewhere, like a hungry vulture eyeing it’s partially wounded victim, just as the America’s economic well being & recovery is being questioned.

As the presidential election cycle prods along, a sudden mid-course metamorphose for top man in D.C. would require a provocative ’test’ by the Islamic enemy, of the Lurch looking schlub potentially wandering down the long corridors of the White House, making every American’s safety in even greater jeopardy then presently.

Is President George Bush the solution to all of America’s domestic & international security and economic problems, probable not, at least in terms the attempted Latin vote grab via leaving the southern border relatively unprotected to potential terrorists attempting to sneak across, mingled in among illegal aliens seeking employment. On the other hand, remember this, since 9-11-01 the followers of total jihad have been completely unsuccessful in launching any further major acts of terrorism inside of America’s borders.

Speaking of the U.S. border quagmire, the overall security situation is by no means satisfactory concerning our many penetratable points of entry, but let us not forget the ’liberal’ Democrats do not view the ever-so-clear and present ongoing dangers poised to America’s national security & economic survival by the sworn, proven anti-American enemy, as does the current GOP administration.

In relation of changing political horses in mid-stream when in time of war, in this case, if the voter makes a monumental mistake, we shall be stuck with a real donkey asleep at the switch.

Happy summer motoring!
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 03/14/2004 10:55:17 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ummmm, you do realize that oil is less than 2.5% of our economy don't you?

I feel bad to blow apart your silly theory like that after you put so much work into your little thesis... but, well... I guess the facts are important to me. I know it's silly but that's the problem with us damn realists.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/14/2004 23:11 Comments || Top||

#2  You write well Mark and make some interesting points but you are in the wrong forum. This site is for mostly hard news with Opinion and Comment in the thread. You would understand the restrictions if you have ever seen some of the screeds posted by our more logically challenged members of society.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 03/14/2004 23:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Which is exactly why I came down on him so hard. Everything I said was true but his choice to waste Fred's bandwidth amd use Fred's hard work as a way to promote his own writing caused me to choose to be blunt with my analysis.

Mark get your own site for your work and if you have something relevant to say then maybe link to it. But you will be flamed if it appears you are only trying to build traffic to your site by leveraging rantburg's users.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 03/14/2004 23:28 Comments || Top||

#4  I Googled on this guy, but found no bio.
I did learn that he posted this exact same article on UN-on-line (UNOL)on March 6, 2004.
Apparently he's trying to impress every one on the internet with his expertise. I also found a Mark Espinola who is a commodity trader. Same guy drumming up business? Probably.
Posted by: GK || 03/14/2004 23:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Trader? Friend of Soros?
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 03/15/2004 11:09 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Egyptian intelligence chief in Washington
Omar Sulaiman, chief of the Egyptian general intelligence, yesterday left for Washington to discuss means of reviving the Palestinian-Zionist peace process. Sulaiman had discussed the same question with Palestinian Authority chief Yasser Arafat a few days ago in Ramallah. The Zionist foreign minister, Silvan Shalom, who was in Cairo on Thursday, is scheduled to fly to Washington within days to join Zionist war minister Shaul Mofaz who is currently visiting the USA. A diplomatic stir has been taking place in the region in the past few weeks after Zionist premier Ariel Sharon declared his unilateral disengagement plan that stipulated evacuating the Gaza Strip and areas of the West Bank. The Americans have expressed reservations over the withdrawal plan, asserting that it should conform with the American-proposed roadmap plan. Egyptian information minister, Safwat Al-Sharif, for his part, said in press statements that Cairo and Tel Aviv should coordinate amending the Camp David agreements so as to enable Egypt safeguard its side of the borders with the Strip in the event of a Zionist evacuation.
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Israel-Palestine
Israel Retaliates in Gaza
A loud explosion rocked Gaza City early Monday, and residents said they believed it was an Israeli air strike. Palestinian ambulances raced to a site in the northern part of the city, in the Sheik Radwan neighborhood, residents said. There were no immediate reports of damage or casualties. Residents said Israeli attack helicopters were flying over the area before the explosion. The blast came a few hours after two Palestinian suicide bombers blew themselves up at the Israeli port of Ashdod, killing 11 Israelis.
Rantissi and Haniyeh live in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood...
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 7:15:22 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ha'aretz:
"Israeli attack helicopters fired at least 10 missiles at a metal foundry and other targets around Gaza City early on Monday, Palestinian witnesses said

It was not known what other targets were hit and there were no immediate reports of casualties in the early morning air strikes, which came hours after two Gaza suicide bombers killed 10 people at Israel's port of Ashdod.

Much of northern Gaza was plunged into darkness as the
missiles knocked out electricity supplies.

The morning strike knocked out electricity to much of the
northern Gaza Strip.

The Israel Defense Forces did not immediately comment. But Israeli security sources said Prime Minister Ariel
Sharon had convened top brass late on Sunday night to decide on retaliation for the Ashdod attack, which was jointly claimed by Hamas and Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed wing of PA Chairman Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement."

Nothing on JPost yet. Wishful thinking? If a bigwig was nailed, the terrorists wouldn't be out announcing it ASAP
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 19:27 Comments || Top||

#2 
Rantissi and Haniyeh live in the Sheikh Radwan neighborhood...
Any chance the IDF got them?

One can always hope...
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/14/2004 19:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Why do they even bother with this pinprick stuff? The Europeans and the Leftists always scream like Israel let fly with an eight hour Corps-level bombardment of the Paleo slums, so they aught to just do that anyway. Right when all the celebrations for the latest murder-bombings begin.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 03/14/2004 23:00 Comments || Top||


Russia
Putin wins in Russia
President Vladimir Putin easily won a second term in elections Sunday with 69 percent of the vote, according to an exit poll, confirming widespread expectations of a landslide victory. The poll, conducted by the non-governmental Public Opinion Foundation, surveyed 120,000 voters at 1,200 polling stations. With 21.5 percent of precincts accounted for, Putin had 68 percent of the vote, Central Election Commission chief Alexander Veshnyakov said. Ninety minutes before polls closed in heavily populated western Russia, electoral officials said that 61.18 percent of voters nationwide had cast ballots. Once the turnout exceeded 50 percent, the election was considered valid.
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Israel-Palestine
PA condemns attacks as populace celebrates
Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei condemned Sunday's suicide attacks in Ashdod, saying such actions provide Israel with an excuse to continue its "aggression" against the Palestinians and build the security fence. The denunciation came as scores of Palestinians took to the streets in the Jenin and Jabalya refugee camps to "celebrate" the attacks. Drivers honked car horns as gunmen fired into the air to express their joy. Others distributed sweets to passersby, hailing the suicide bombers and calling on all Palestinian groups to step up their "resistance operations against the Israeli enemy."

"This is a natural response to the massacres perpetrated against our people," said Abu Qusai, one of the leaders of Fatah's armed wing, the Aqsa Martyrs Brigades. "We tell the Zionist enemy that it must expect more heroic operations like the one in Ashdod." The Aksa Martyrs Brigades claimed joint responsibility with Hamas for the Ashdod attacks. PA officials said the Fatah group's growing involvement in suicide attacks is a source of major concern for the PA leadership. "People are asking themselves, if we can't control our own men, how can we be expected to rein in Hamas and other groups," said one official. "Before we talk about enforcing law and order in the streets, we must first take drastic measures to put an end to the state of anarchy and rebellion in Fatah."

Zakariya Zubaidi, commander of the Aksa Martyrs Brigades in the Jenin area, said last week in response to the killing of four Fatah gunmen by the IDF that his group has decided to resume suicide attacks inside Israel. The group has refrained in the past few months from launching such attacks inside the Green Line, arguing that its fight is directed against the occupation and IDF soldiers in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. In Ramallah, a statement issued by Qurei's office said: "The higher national interests of the Palestinian people require an immediate cessation of such actions. The Palestinian government condemns the targeting of civilians on both sides and the continuation of the series of military escalation." Qurei reiterated his call for a mutual cease-fire with Israel to break the cycle of violence and implement the road map plan for peace in the Middle East. PA Chairman Yasser Arafat issued a similar statement, noting that the purpose of the attack was to thwart the planned summit between Qurei and Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 6:32:37 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Patience, Prime Minister Sharon---The Paleos will celebrate, but keep the Wall building. The Paleostinian State (of self-immolating anarchy) will be achieved. And OP's Gaza Free Fire Zone will be a reality in Gaza if someone is stupid enough to launch rockets into Israel. I cannot, just cannot imagine the level of stupidity and irresponsibility of the Paleostinian leadership.

It must be a Zen koan thing.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/14/2004 19:10 Comments || Top||

#2  AP - they're revolutionaries, deciated to killing and overthrowing. They never made the leap to governing, and will be remembered for lost opportunities and a brutally bloody long tough civil war. C'est La Vie!
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 19:31 Comments || Top||

#3  uh...dedicated? I was thinking of the decimation...yeah, that's the ticket. No F-up here to see, go about your business :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 19:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Yeah, Frank, like what do you do after the revolution?

Duh, I never thought of that yet......
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/14/2004 20:44 Comments || Top||

#5  In the immortal words of PJ O'Rourke (unless he was borrowing them, I don't recall) in describing the disarray of Sandinista Nicaragua: "it's one thing to burn down the s***house, another to install plumbing." The PA has its own approach -- extract $$$ for personal use from the s***house as you help burn it down ... and installing plumbing? What's that about?
Posted by: IceCold || 03/14/2004 22:37 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Police re-arrest two LJ men freed by court
Vehari Police have re-arrested two activists of the banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LJ) who had been acquitted by the anti-terrorism court because of lack of evidence.
"Yeah. Da witnesses wuz all dead!"
Reportedly, Abdul Malik and Muhammad Akram were charged with shooting on a majlis in Mailsi. However, both men were freed after the prosecution failed to convince the court. The families of Mr Malik and Mr Akram alleged that the police arrested them when they were returning home after being released from Multan Central Jail on Friday. This is an extra-judicial action by the police, their families added. However, Syed Javed Shah, district police officer of Vehari, said that both men were detained for 90 days under the Maintenance of Public Order Act because they have links with a banned group. Also, a division bench of the Lahore High Court Multan bench has rejected the bail application of Shabbir Ahmed alias Shabbira Fauji who was involved in the shooting incident at the Iranian Cultural Centre in Multan, which killed seven people, including the director Muhammad Ali Rahimie.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 3:50:55 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


US widens view of Pakistan link to North Korean arms
A new classified intelligence report presented to the White House last week detailed for the first time the extent to which Pakistan’s Khan Research Laboratories provided North Korea with all the equipment and technology it needed to produce uranium-based nuclear weapons, the New York Times reports in an article on its Web site Saturday, citing US and Asian officials who have been briefed on its conclusions. The assessment, by the Central Intelligence Agency, confirms the Bush administration’s fears about the accelerated nature of North Korea’s secret uranium weapons program, which some intelligence officials believe could produce a weapon as early as sometime next year. The assessment is based in part on Pakistan’s accounts of its interrogations of Abdul Qadeer Khan, the developer of Pakistan’s bomb, who was pardoned by President Pervez Musharraf in January, according to the article.

The CIA report concluded that North Korea probably received a package very similar to the kind the Khan network sold to Libya including nuclear fuel, centrifuges and one or more warhead designs for more than $60 million, the Times said. A senior US official described it as “the complete package,” from raw uranium hexafluoride to the centrifuges to enrich it into nuclear fuel, which could be more easily hidden from inspectors than were North Korea’s older sites to produce plutonium bombs, the newspaper said. In the CIA report, the Times said, Khan’s transactions with North Korea are traced to the early 1990’s, when Benazir Bhutto was the Pakistani prime minister, and the clandestine relationship between the two countries is portrayed as rapidly accelerating between 1998 and 2002.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 3:47:49 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It seems to me that if you have citizens that like to burrow, the U235 method of bomb making would be the one of choice. The centrifuge separation method involves lots of repetition of process equipment for U238 and U235 separation, so you can get fissile material easier and faster---and more discrete. Making Pu239 relies on a reactor, which takes LOTS of cooling water and infrastructure, which can be easily sensed by remote sensors. An implosion bomb is a technical challenge, with tolerances getting tighter the more compact you make it. The U-Package™ deal is the rouge regime's dream come true.

Our ally Pakistan --- sigh --- makes me feel warm and radioactive all over. If the Pak regime falls and things get dicey with weapons possibly going to jihadis, Khan and Co have signed their citizen's death warrants.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/14/2004 18:01 Comments || Top||


Lashkar fails to arrest wanted men as deadline lapses
Tribal elders in South Waziristan formed a 10 member delegation to locate the wanted men accused of sheltering terrorists and persuade them to surrender to the authorities after the expiry of a 48-hour deadline for them to turn themselves over to officials on Saturday. “There was no response to the Zalikhel tribe’s ultimatum but the jirga has decided to give the wanted tribesmen another chance to surrender peacefully to the tribal army,” a tribal elder told Daily Times by phone from Wana after attending a second jirga in three days.
Yup. Time for another deadline.
He said the delegation from the Usmankhel, Kakakhel and Sheikhbuzit tribes would try to meet the wanted men and convince them to surrender. “We will take the next action after the delegation returns,” the tribesman said. But he would not comment on when the delegation would return. The jirga, which assembled thousands of armed tribesmen on Saturday, will meet on Sunday again. “The delegation is part of the tribal tradition and it does not mean that the lashkar (tribal army) is soft on the wanted men,” said a tribesman who wished not to be named.
"I think we intend to talk them to death."
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 3:42:31 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine
Israel Cancels Summit With Palestinians
Israel's prime minister on Sunday canceled a planned summit with his Palestinian counterpart after a double suicide bombing at the Israeli port of Ashdod killed nine Israelis.
Hard to be social with a man related to those killing your people.
Aides to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his Palestinian counterpart, Ahmed Qureia, had met Sunday and planned to meet again Monday to finalize plans for their first summit since Qureia took office in October. The summit had been tentatively scheduled for Tuesday. Israeli officials called off the preparatory meeting and the summit in response to the bombing, an official in Sharon's office said.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/14/2004 12:13:50 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In related news (JPost.com) - Bank of Israel announces that the 2000-2003 recession in Israel is over by five leading indicators. I would suspect "Fence construction" might be one of them...

In other news the Paleo economy could not be found - buried under the latest car swarm
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Frank, do you think that the PLA peace overtures are coordinated with the plans for the bombings rather than the bombings being the act of dissidents.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 14:02 Comments || Top||

#3  coordinated - it lets Qureia and Arafat say: "look, our hands are tied, we can't compromise or our people that we pay to be killers will kill us"

just IMHO though
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 15:13 Comments || Top||

#4  SH, I'd go with it being the act of dissidents, but the PA long ago turned a blind eye to them.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/14/2004 18:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Pappy, then they dissent only in when and how many innocents shall be killed.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||


Nine killed in double suicide bombing at Ashdod port
JPost - Reg req’d - both boomers were 18 and came from Gaza - a first...
At least nine people were killed Sunday and 19 were injured, three in critical condition, in a double suicide bombing at the Ashdod port. Hamas’ military wing Iz a Din al-Kassam and Fatah jointly took responsibility for the bombings on Al-Manar television in Lebanon. A joint statement by the two organizations named the two perpetrators as Nabil Masud and Muhamed Salem, both 18 from the Jalabiyah refugee camp in the Gaza Strip. The statement says the operation was in retaliation for "recent Israeli massacres in Gaza and Jenin."

It was unclear how the bombers entered into the port’s compound. An Ashdod municipal worker told Channel 2 that he "was shocked" that an attack could take place in the port since "it is well secured." One of the bombers reportedly exploded at the port’s main gate and the second bomber managed to jump the fence which surrounds the facility and blew himself up inside a factory in the compound.

Security officials have warned in recent weeks that Palestinians would begin to aim suicide attacks in the south of the country, in the Ashdod area, since it is easier to reach from the southern Hebron hills and since it is close to the Gaza Strip. IAF helicopters were seen circling above the scene of the attack searching for a suspect who is beleived to have driven the bombers to the port. Police have also set up checkpoints along the edges of the city in order to try and nab the suspect. The blasts were heard around 5 p.m., said to be a busy hour during which many workers are around the port area. Rescue services spokesman Yerucham Mendola said "some of the victims were thrown a long distance" by the blasts.

Chief of police in the southern district Cmdr. Moshe Kardi said that police are investigating whether the bombers intended to explode next to dangerous chemicals in order to maximize the damage and the number of dead. "Police need to investigate whether the goal of the bombers was to explode near dangerous chemicals that are inside the facility," Kardi said.

It was the first attack of its kind at an port during more than three years of Israeli-Palestinian violence. In 111 previous suicide bombing attacks, more than 450 people have been killed. Spokesman for Barzilai Hospital said that the hospital had received four people lightly injured in the attack. IAF helicopters landed at the port in order to help to evacuate the wounded. Police initially believed that the explosions were set off accidentally in a workshop in the port by a gas tank that exploded.
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2004 12:02:15 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
Shiite Boomer Camp Near Karbala
Polish and US soldiers uncovered Saturday a training camp for terrorists near the city of Karbala. There was nobody at the site, but they found eight tons of explosives.
Interesting. That is a Shiite area, and I have been under the impression that Sunnis, with Saudi backing, have been doing all the bombing. Call this a breaking story.
There is a Bulgarian unit patrolling the city, together with other soldiers from the international peacekeepers there under Polish command. The region is populated mainly by Shiite Muslims, who are said to be well disposed toward coalition forces. However, the city has seen several attacks since the US-led war was declared over. In one of the bombings, the Bulgarian India base was destroyed and five Bulgarian soldiers killed. Those were the first fatalities from the Bulgarian battalion there.
Posted by: Man Bites Dog || 03/14/2004 10:43:27 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I saw this story elsewhere and it struck me. How the heck could jihadi/foreign types maintain a base like this in an area like Karbala without being ratted out in an instant? The locals thereabouts would certainly hate and fear these folks. Hard to understand without "ground feel" and being there, I guess -- but I found it astounding.
Posted by: IceCold || 03/14/2004 22:40 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Muslim v Muslim in Sudan
Sudan’s 21-year civil war has long been seen as a fight between its Muslim north and its animist and Christian south. But the fighting that is wreaking havoc in the Iraq-sized Darfur region of western Sudan shows how much more fractured the country is.
Sudan has an elite which is predominantly Arab and plunders the country from the North, and takes Saudi money to fight a war against the Christian south.
As in the old conflict, the new one stems from a revolt by insurgents against poverty and neglect by the central government in faraway Khartoum, and a sense that as the peace bandwagon moves forward, they have to move fast to win a greater share of wealth and power for Darfur. The difference is that, in the past, the tribes in the impoverished northern desert and southern savanna of Darfur fought for their Islamic government and many joined the army. Now it’s Muslims fighting Muslims.

Refugees say the government’s onslaught is ferocious. The government blames the rebels for the suffering and chaos. Its tactics could be a way of signaling that the concessions it has made to the south don’t mean it will offer the same to other restive areas of the country. "Darfur has really shaken up this regime," said Ted Dagne, an Africa specialist at the Congressional Research Service. "Where do they stop this train? If you give in to the political demands of the Darfur rebels, why not to the Beja (in eastern Sudan), why not to the Nuba (in central Sudan) and a bunch of the other marginalized areas."
Posted by: Man Bites Dog || 03/14/2004 10:36:35 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why is Sudan a country? Because Arab slave raiders, supperted by the Egyptian government. successful conquered the region in the mid-1800s. When the Brits took over Egypt in the late 1800s, the colony became the "Anglo-Egyptian Sudan." The Arabs of the Nile Valley have continued to form the the elite, exploiting not just the Dinka and Nuer of the south, but also the Muslim peoples of Kordofan (extraordinary linguistic and racial complexity here), Darfur, and the Beja region of the east. The country has no reason to exist.
Posted by: closet neo-con || 03/14/2004 12:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Neo, I see no evidence that the Sudan exists as a coherent state.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 12:22 Comments || Top||

#3  SH -- good point. But it continues to be recognized by the "international community" -- and by the US State Dept. -- as if it were a coherent state. That gives its government undue legitimacy. (Hardly surprising, however; same goes for Somalia.)
Posted by: closet neo-con || 03/14/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Neo, I was trying to accentuate your point rather than contradicting it. I would think that Somalia would have more luck as three countries.

At one point, I thought that Afghanistan should be partitioned as well, but didn't really like adding remote areas to countries that were having trouble controlling their central territory already. Making a land donation to Iran is a non-starter as well. Maybe the Afghans could use some coastline if Pakistan proves inept at controlling their territory.
Sudan probably could be broken up, at this point, because it has a one resource economy.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#5  When I was involved in UN relief work the IL-76's flying the food aid down to Juba had to carry 50% arms and ammunition. The Christian Aid agencies all know their money keeps the war going but the marketing campaign benefits of an established poverty area for giving outwieigh the desire to stop the war by cutting off the money from the donors. Without the aid agencies the government would not be able to pay for the airlifts to Juba.
Posted by: Anonymous || 03/22/2004 4:57 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Task Force Ironhorse
  • 4th Infantry Division soldiers with 1st and 3rd Battalions, 67th Armor Regiment captured nine individuals, six of whom were targets, during an air-assault operation near Khan Bani Sad Thursday. The targeted individuals are suspected of being members of a local terrorist cell operating in the area.

  • Task Force Ironhorse soldiers with 1st Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment discovered 19 122 mm rockets northwest of Krab Wednesday. The rockets were aimed at Forward Operating Base Warrior in Kirkuk. Explosive ordnance personnel destroyed the rounds Thursday.

  • Task Force Ironhorse soldiers from 310th Military Intelligence Battalion confiscated four Frog 7B missiles Thursday. The Iraqi Civil Defense Corps is securing the site southwest of Kirkuk until explosive ordnance personnel can assess the missiles.
    Wonder if they were launchable?

  • Local children led a 1st Battalion, 25th Infantry Division patrol to a site where two rocket-propelled-grenade launchers were located east of Forward Operating Base Speicher. The patrol secured the site Thursday until explosive ordnance personnel transported the rounds to FOB Speicher for destruction.

  • Task Force Ironhorse soldiers from 1st Battalion, 7th Field Artillery Regiment apprehended two individuals and assorted weapons during a raid Thursday. The individuals and confiscated equipment were taken to Forward Operating Base Lancer.

  • 4th Infantry Division soldiers from the 14th Engineer Battalion discovered and destroyed a cache near Al Ouja Thursday. The cache consisted of one 40 mm heat round, two hand grenades and one rocket-propelled-grenade launcher.

  • Soldiers from the 1st Infantry Division secured a weapons cache near Abu Shakur Thursday based on information provided by an Iraqi civilian. 1st Battalion, 77th Armor Regiment secured the cache until explosive ordnance personnel can destroy it. The cache consisted of 50-60 mortar rounds and one rocket-propelled-grenade launcher. The rounds appeared to be in the early stages of preparation to be used as IEDs.

  • A 1st Battalion, 67th Armor Regiment patrol captured two individuals who were emplacing an improvised explosive device north of Ghalibiyah Thursday.

  • Three individuals attacked an Iraqi Civil Defense Corps patrol in Baqubah with what is suspected to be an improvised explosive device Thursday. Task Force Ironhorse soldiers with 588th Engineer Battalion heard the explosion and sent a patrol to the location. The patrol killed one and captured another individual while they were fleeing the site. The captured individual was taken to the Diyala Police.

  • 4th Infantry Division soldiers with 1st Battalion, 67th Armor Regiment captured four targeted individuals in a raid Friday in an area south of Kan’an. The targeted individuals were suspects in attacks against coalition forces in the area.

  • Soldiers from the 1st Infantry Division’s 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry regiment raided a house in Tikrit Friday. The raid resulted in the confiscation of 229 rounds of 7.62 mm ammunition, 40 shotgun shells and one 30-round AK-47 magazine.

  • First Infantry Division soldiers from 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment discovered a cache consisting of 201 cans of 14.5 mm rounds south of Al Ouja Friday. The cache was taken to Forward Operating Base Packhorse for destruction.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 03/14/2004 6:54:16 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  wow frog missles are a big fucking peice of kit,dangerous stuff and capable of haveing a chemical warhead,nasty stuff good that they collered these.Just shows what they can hide for so long, makes my WMD meter jolt back to life
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 7:29 Comments || Top||

#2  also wouldn't an air assault indicate a fairly high value target,wonder if there locals or something more now
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 7:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Good
Keep up the good work
In the end the Iraqi people are going
to understand (hopefully)what a great
thing a really democratic Iraq is going to be for them.
I just hope they catch on quickly and establish a good future for themselves
Posted by: The Dodo || 03/14/2004 8:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Good too see local children took the patrol too the grenade launchers. Maybe the young gneratiion of iraqi's have a chance for a better life in the near future with thinking like thiers
Posted by: smokeysinse || 03/14/2004 12:19 Comments || Top||

#5  It was a Frog missile that killed a large number of 3rd Infantry soldiers, including Colonel Perkins' driver, when it hit a command post on the drive to take Baghdad. That is one dangerous weapon to be out there. With my son in the 1st AD, I worry a lot about such stuff.
Posted by: VRWconspiracy || 03/14/2004 16:33 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
U.S. sees ’historic potential’ in PM’s disengagement plan
It looks like the USA has bought into the Gaza withdrawl plan. Full marks to President Bush for taking a principled position in the run up to an election.
The U.S. government believes that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s disengagement plan poses risks, but has "historic potential." Top-level consultations last week with President George Bush culminated in a decision to support Sharon’s plan as much as possible, pending clarification of details with Israeli officials. The U.S. administration believes it is important that any pullout from the Gaza Strip, and also perhaps from parts of the West Bank, not be perceived as a concession to terror.

Sharon’s bureau chief, Dov Weisglass, is due to meet Sunday with his Palestinian counterpart, Hassan Abu Libdeh, to discuss the Sharon-Qureia meeting planned for Tuesday. Political sources said the premiers will not be discussing Sharon’s disengagement plan, and that if the topic comes up, Israel will say the plan is not up for negotiation with the Palestinians, Israel Radio reported Sunday.
Well said! Negotiation withn the Paleos is a waste of time.
Meanwhile, former Labor prime minister Ehud Barak said Sunday that if Sharon is serious about disengagement, the Labor Party should be helping him from within the government. Speaking to Israel Radio, Barak dismissed the position of Oslo Accords architect Yossi Beilin, who holds that Israeli withdrawal should be part of a negotiated settlement with the Palestinians. Barak said such an approach has not worked and rewards terror.

Visiting Israel in recent days, U.S. envoys Steve Hadley, Elliott Abrams and William Burns emphasized that an Israeli withdrawal should implement "Bush’s vision" and the road map, which calls for the establishment of a Palestinian state. The envoys also clarified that Washington views the disengagement proposal as an Israeli plan; the Bush administration, they said, will not dictate to Israel details regarding the scope of the pullout or the settlements to be evacuated. Washington will decide how to respond based on the policies Israel puts into action, the three envoys said. The nature of American support will be determined when Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Bush meet, which is planned for March 31 or April 1. The Bush administration wants to add to the ceremony of Sharon’s visit, unlike earlier ones. One of the possibilities being considered is inviting Sharon to the presidential retreat at Camp David.

Sharon was originally inclined toward a relatively large-scale withdrawal from West Bank settlements, but in the face of strong opposition from Likud colleagues, he is now considering a withdrawal from the Gaza Strip alone. Netanyahu met with the envoys at Sharon’s request, and told them that the Gaza Strip must not become a base for Hamas or Al-Qaida terror groups and asked the envoys about security and diplomatic guarantees. Bush, said the envoys, has devised a policy of beating terror, and not surrendering to it; this rule applies to the Gaza Strip, just as it applies to every part of the world, the envoys insisted.
You will be judged on results not on rhetoric. Excellent!
Meeting with American officials last Thursday, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz emphasized the differences that separate the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. The security model to be followed regarding Gaza is simple, since the region is surrounded by a fence, Mofaz said. On the West Bank, events are more complicated, Mofaz said, and the timetable must be different, due to the need to complete the separation fence.
The Gaza fence works. Hurry up and finish the WB one.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 3:55:00 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sorry Fred wrong category.
Posted by: Phil B || 03/14/2004 3:56 Comments || Top||

#2  There's a lot of good things in this story; not negotiating with the Paleos, the recognition that the Gaza fence is working, Baraks comments and Sharon getting the support of the US.

The only black cloud is the visit to the US - and that's only because the Paleos like to send some splodeydopes into Israel whenever Sharon leaves the country.

Some nice news for a Sunday morning!
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 03/14/2004 4:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Category fixed.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 12:25 Comments || Top||

#4  The Paleos will get their state, just like the roadmap sez, only they will not get the startup funding, which is the consequences of their actions. Beware of what you wish for.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/14/2004 15:05 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Three Taliban Held in U.S. Afghan Offensive
Three Taliban commanders have been arrested in a U.S.-led sweep of southeastern Afghanistan aimed at crushing members of the former regime and their al Qaeda allies, an Afghan army officer said on Sunday. At least 12 Taliban fighters have been killed in the week-old offensive which U.S. officials hope will snare al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.
Posted by: Karma || 03/14/2004 2:41:44 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  bet this pained the rooooters reporters to say this
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 03/14/2004 5:54 Comments || Top||

#2  They say the twelve Taliban that got killed were all in a truck. I want too see that video
Posted by: Charles || 03/14/2004 7:42 Comments || Top||

#3  The Taliban command structure seems a little top heavy. Somebody mentioned C. Northcote Parkinson's ideas about bureaucracy a while back. It appears that his theories are applicable to stone age cultures as well.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 12:09 Comments || Top||


Sri Lanka peace hopes dim as Tiger leadership fractures
Dontcha love it when that happens?
Sri Lanka's hopes of ending three decades of ethnic bloodshed and emerging as Asia's latest tiger economy have been shattered by a shock rift in the leadership of the Tamil Tiger rebels, analysts said. A split in the separatist movement would have been music to the ears of any past Sri Lankan Government, but with a ceasefire in effect since 2002 the instability has fuelled fears of the island slipping back to war. "The basic assumption was that the Tiger leadership had absolute control over all its cadres," a Western diplomat said. "That assumption is no longer valid and you have two powerful factions to contend with."
Each trying to assassinate the other...
The World Bank had forecast Sri Lanka to record 8 per cent growth this year and become Asia's fastest expanding economy after China and India, but political instability has already taken its toll. "The prevailing drought and the current uncertainty in the market may have some dampening impact," the Central Bank said, adding that growth for this year could be slower at 5.5 per cent. Over $US175 million in loans and another $US250 million in foreign direct investment had been put on hold as a direct result of the snap polls called for April 2, international lending institutions say. But a bigger worry is the prospect of a renewal in the bloodshed that has systematically held back the economy.
Bloodshed does tend to do that, doesn't it?
More than 60,000 people have died since 1972 in the Tigers' campaign for a separate Tamil homeland. Instead of cheering at what would have seemed a windfall for the government, the caretaker administration of Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe and his political opponent President Chandrika Kumaratunga have kept quiet.
Of course you keep quiet in a situation like this. You let them kill each other, then kill the guys left standing and shoot any wounded. That's if you have any sense, anyway.
The best course of action for the government and the opposition was to stay aloof and hope the Tigers would resolve the issue on their own, analysts said.
Yeah. Let 'em shoot it out. No skin off your fore.
"Let it be sorted out by themselves," Mangala Samaraweera said, spokesman for Kumaratunga's Freedom Alliance, when pressed for a reaction to the rift within the Tiger movement. The schism has shattered the Tamil Tigers' image as an invincible guerrilla organisation with zero tolerance for dissent and overshadowed the campaign for parliamentary elections. Ms Kumaratunga called the polls nearly four years ahead of schedule after last month sacking the legislature controlled by Mr Wickremesinghe, whom she accused of conceding too much to the rebels during peace talks brokered by Norway.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 12:08:42 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sorry, I don't see the problem here. Death-cult terrorists (they're into suicide bombs and all have a vial of cyanide around their necks) have a spat and go their separate ways, vowing dire revenge on each other.

With any luck it'll end up as a "Judean Peoples Front crack suicide squad" gag.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 03/14/2004 9:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like one of those deals where those people for whom the war has become their life don't want to put the gun down.
Posted by: Hiryu || 03/14/2004 11:39 Comments || Top||

#3  I knew that even Alan Trammel couldn't hold those goofs together long.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 12:18 Comments || Top||


Kidnappers Attach Bombs to Hostages
The hostage drama that has been unfolding for the last fortnight in Loralai district in Punjab turned ugly yesterday after negotiations between the kidnappers and the administration failed. The kidnappers attached bombs to themselves and their hostages. Unconfirmed reports said one of the hostages died after a heart attack, possibly out of fright.
Yep. Having a bomb hung around your neck'll sometimes do that...
Former Minister Abdul Rehman Khitran and Pir Agha, a local religious leader, have been negotiating with the kidnappers on behalf of the administration, but the talks failed after the government refused to release four convicted murderers in exchange for the hostages. “The kidnappers have attached bombs to themselves and the bodies of the hostages to deter any law enforcement operation to get the hostages released,” said Shahid Iqbal, district police officer in Rajanpur. “We are confident the hostages will be released soon. However, we will not let anyone to take any action that might put the lives of the hostages in danger,” said Jamal Khan Leghari, district nazim of Dera Ghazi Khan.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 12:01:07 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Did anything ever get determined about the pizza guy who was made to rob a bank and then killed in the same manner.
Posted by: Super Hose || 03/14/2004 12:20 Comments || Top||


America Seeks Direct Access to Qadeer
Information obtained from accused Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan suggests North Korea began to pursue a highly enriched uranium program for nuclear weapons several years earlier than originally thought, US officials said yesterday. The officials, interviewed by Reuters, cited this disclosure as evidence that Pakistan has been cooperative in sharing with Washington the secrets of Khan’s global network that sold nuclear technology to Iran, North Korea and Libya. US allegations about an HEU program are central to six-party talks on North Korea’s nuclear program and US officials said they have used Khan’s information to buttress their case with their negotiating partners. But officials also said that five weeks after Khan confessed his deeds, the United States still has not had direct access to the disgraced scientist, who is known as the father of Pakistan’s nuclear program.
And if Perv can get away with it we won't. Could even involve another "heart attack."
Khan presumably could provide concrete answers to many key questions including whether he sold nuclear weapon designs to Iran, which claims its program is only peaceful. Some US sources said the Bush administration was unhappy with Pakistan’s cooperation but a senior US official said these reports are “highly exaggerated.”
"Yeah. I don't think you could precisely call it 'unhappy.' Rolling our eyes, heaving a heavy sigh, and getting ready to punch Perv is probably more accurate."
Asked if Islamabad’s cooperation was sufficient, the senior official squirted coffee out his nose and replied: “I think we think it is an ongoing process.”
"These guys are so prone to the runaround they're permanently dizzy!"
“We get regular briefings from the Pakistanis about what they are finding out and have been able to share this with other partners in the six-party talks” on the North’s nuclear program, he said. But a second senior official said: “We don’t know what Khan has... We’ve been told that it’s coming.”
My hair's growing back, too. And my gut is definately smaller...
“The Pakistanis are going to give us what they feel like giving us,” a third US source said. Secretary of State Colin Powell is due to visit Pakistan as part of a South Asia trip next week and he is expected to discuss Khan and related proliferation issues with President Pervez Musharraf and other officials.
Posted by: Fred || 03/14/2004 12:01:07 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The senior US official, wiping the stains of coffee off his shirt and papers on his desk, said to this interviewer:

Of course, you must know that Pakistan is a very high maintenance ally, but an ally nevertheless.

The reporter saw the very slight smile of understatement and fatigue in the official's face as he wrapped up the interview.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 03/14/2004 14:43 Comments || Top||



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