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Afghanistan
10 Taliban suspects held in Afghanistan
Afghan troops arrested 10 Taliban suspects during recent raids in the southern Zabul province, the region's governor said on Saturday. The arrests were made four days earlier in raids in several villages of Chapan district in Zabul province, said Governor Hamidullah Khan Tokhi. Among those arrested are two brothers of two commanders in the ousted Taliban militia, said Tokhi speaking from Zabul's capital of Qalat. It wasn't clear why the brothers were arrested, except for their family connections to the commanders. The official would not name the Taliban commanders. The suspects were being held in a jail in Qalat. Reinforcements have been sent to the area, and Afghan troops are looking for other Taliban hide-outs, according to the official. The region's rugged mountains are considered a natural haven for Taliban fighters, and Tokhi said the renegades have been able to get support from some local residents.
And 60 nabbed the other day in Helmand. Can they be taking the hunt seriously?
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 02:24 pm || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I like the fact that it's the new Afghan Army that's conducting the anti-Taliban operations. It's their country. It shows motivation to keep the Taliban from returning. This is good news. It's what, just over a year since the founding of the new Afghan Army. Good on, guys!
Posted by: Jabba the Tutt || 05/04/2003 22:10 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Yemen seeks extradition of Attash
Yemen has asked Pakistan to extradite a suspected al-Qaeda leader wanted over the September 11 attacks and the bombing of a US warship, a Yemeni foreign ministry official said on Saturday. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Waleed bin Attash is on Yemen's most wanted list for his role in plotting the Oct 2000 attack on the USS Cole. US officials also suspect Attash coordinated the activities of two plane hijackers who crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. Attash, a Yemeni, and some other alleged al-Qaeda members were arrested in Karachi on Tuesday. A US law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said a plot to crash an explosives-laden small aircraft into the American consulate in Karachi was uncovered with the arrests. The Yemeni official said earlier interrogations of 10 Cole bombing suspects, who escaped from Yemeni detention last month, revealed that Attash had played a central role in coordinating the Cole attack.
They couldn't hold on to the last batch. I think we should keep this guy.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 02:15 pm || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
More Brit involvement in Boomland
Leaflets published in Britain urging Muslims to become self-bombers have been found in long-occupied Palestinian territories. The discovery fuels fears that Britain has become a haven for extremists. Now Israeli authorities have demanded that Britain launch an immediate investigation into al-Sunnah, the organization based at Birmingham's Centre for Islamic Studies, which published the leaflets, The Observer said.

One leaflet published just before the outbreak of war against Iraq on March 20 urges Muslims to become martyrs in Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine. Supporters are asked to send donations to a bank account at one of its branches in Birmingham. The al-Sunnah group is known for its hard-core stance over the occupation of Palestine and the involvement of Western governments in the support of Israel. However, the organization has had a generally low profile in Britain - until now, added the British daily. Al-Sunnah publishes books, leaflets and a monthly magazine that is distributed across the Muslim world including the Palestinian West Bank and Gaza strip. “When this sudden explosion of American-Zionist violence is aiming to eradicate a nation's existence, eliminating its vitality and sites of resistance, the only way to protect this nation is through acts of martyrdom,” read one leaflet. The Centre for Islamic Studies refused to comment.
And no comment is needed. The Centre for Islamic Studies, by the way, is the organization that fronted www.alneda.com, Qaeda's website. Shut 'em down, Tony...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 12:32 pm || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Naw, Blair is too much of a pussy to shut them down. To enact the actual draconian steps needed, would go against one of the core Labour party credos of granting asylum, blah,, blah, blah.

What is needed is a revolution in Western thinking regarding a whole host of related issues such as what activities can be prosecuted, who can be granted assylum, who can be deported and stripped of citizenship, and yes, even immigration policy. Until such is done, I forsee no end to these outrages. Do you?
Posted by: jlc || 05/04/2003 12:50 Comments || Top||

#2  jlc---showtime always comes sooner that one expects. Britain's time is now. France may be too late. Our time in the US is soon. The question for all of our countries is do we have the national will to face this evil cancer and deal with it before it consumes us and kills the host (which is us)? This is a clash of cultures. I doesn't mean that we pick up weapons and hose the enemy. But we will have to deal with the enemy. The first step is exposure of these fanatics for what they are. PC is a form of suicide. It is show time for Britain.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 05/04/2003 13:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Let's remember, Britain has no Constitution. They can circumvent the rule of law very quickly.
Posted by: Brian || 05/04/2003 18:47 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm not one bit surprised they were associated with Al Muhajiroun.

I went to their Trafalgar Square Rally 2002 and it was obscene.

They handed out leaflets demanding Sharia law be implemented in Britain and slamming democracy as fostering perversion, lying, homosexuality (they think that is dirty) and even claiming Islam as feminism that advanced women's rights (yeah right)

They had disgusting anti-semitic banners etc. The worst Islamofascist scum feeding off the freedom of speech in the west to spread their evil views.

Wake up, UK, US, Australia: multiculturalism ONLY works within CLEARLY DEFINED BOUNDARIES.

Al Muhajiroun should be disbanded as it's public and stated long-term goal is to bring down British democracy and impose sharia. They should be banned incitement to violence as they praise 'martyrdom operations'.

Freeze their bank accounts and shut them down. THey are Islamic Nazis.
Posted by: Anonymous || 05/04/2003 19:41 Comments || Top||

#5  oops that Anonymous was me, Anon1.

I forgot to add: don't just shut them down, deport those that can be deported.

There is a saying: Only Nixon could go to China.

Well, only Blair can deal with the Islamofascists.

Think of it this way: the Left will be betraying it's liberal principles if it defends the Islamofascists.

They will be defending racism (against jews), sexism and homophobia. they will be defending religious supremecism.

While the left has fascist tendencies, their core principles are supposed to be to uphold the rights of oppressed minorities - which teh Islamofascists attack.

So the left is actually the natural enemy of the Islamofascist if they could get over their PC multiculturalism long enough to realise it.

Posted by: Anon1 || 05/04/2003 19:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Sorry AP. Show time has come and gone. jlc is right. The left is now allied with the islamofascists and to the extent that they prevail we will be forced to respond on thier terms. My wife is Swedish and receives info from several "mainstream" dailys there. The socialist state is bankrupt and is wildly thrashing about for a scapegoat. It has siezed on Bush as the encarnation of the evil warmonger while expanding the welfare benefits for unlimited middle eastern immigrants who refuse to assimilate/contribute/work. Consider Europe "flushed".
Posted by: leonidas || 05/04/2003 21:35 Comments || Top||

#7  It doesn't matter now - Al-Muhajiroun has been disbanded.
Posted by: George || 10/13/2004 13:27 Comments || Top||


Almost-a-boomer was another Finsbury Park boy
Security services knew for several years that Omar Khan Sharif, the escaped would-be self-bomber, was attending al-Muhajiroun meetings in his home town of Derby, central England, as well as group meetings in west London, MI5 officers told the Telegraph. They said Sharif was also connected to the Finsbury Park mosque in north London — the target in January 2003 of a major police raid that followed the discovery of traces of ricin, a deadly toxin, in a flat elsewhere in the capital.
Boy, can I call 'em...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 10:42 am || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How screwed is Sharif? He lost his passport, probably has no money, the entire state security of Israel is looking for him, and he pussed out as a boomer unlike his buddy, so the Jihadis won't want him....heh heh
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 11:06 Comments || Top||


50 Britons ‘Ready’ To Stage Bomb Attacks In Israel
As British security agencies are facing a nightmarish new threat in the wake of last week's self-bombing in Israel by two Britons in Israel, a leading Islamic leader said on Sunday, May 4, there are still other 50 ready to stage similar attacks. "The number is getting close to 50," said Hassan Butt, who in the past has spoken on behalf of al-Muhajiroun, who was described by The Sunday Times as a leading Islamic cleric.
Hassan's a "leading Islamic cleric"? A year ago he was a 22-year-old terrorist recruiter. I guess it doesn't take much to be a "leading Islamic cleric."
Butt said he believed "about 20" of them "were absolutely serious" about blowing themselves up in Israel. British anti-terrorist police have arrested six people in relation to last week's bomb attack in Israel in which one British Muslim rammed himself into a Tel Aviv night club, killing three people and injuring dozen others while the other would-be bomber was on the run after as his explosive belt failed to set off.
This is a very interesting case, and very significant. Muhajiroun is a feeder for al-Qaeda, recruiting Brit jihadis as cannon fodder for Afghanistan and Chechnya. Hassan, despite his callow youth, has been their most visible recruiter since before 9-11, claiming in October, 2001, to have sent a thousand Brits to Afghanistan. Irsael earlier accused Qaeda of becoming active in Gaza, causing Yasser to bare his teeth — an unappetizing sight, indeed. This would seem to close the terror circle, affiliating a Qaeda front with Hezbollah in Syria and al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and Islamic Jihad in Paleostine.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 10:38 am || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Does this mean that UK goes on the American shit list for harboring terrorists?
Posted by: Anonymous || 05/04/2003 12:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Must be the Hook's Butt boy...
Posted by: mojo || 05/04/2003 13:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Israel has the right idea. They take out the leadership. Shieks, clerics, muftis and smuftis who preach this type of hateful statements calling for our (normal infidel types) destruction are the enemy and should be fair game for surgical strikes on them. They get their proxies to do their duty work, so we interrupt the chain. Just like we are doing with Al and the Quedas.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 05/04/2003 13:56 Comments || Top||

#4  You are right, Al-Aska.

But not just the Israelis. Every western nation should be taking out the Islamofasist mullahs preaching violence. Deporting them/stripping them of the right to preach.

The problem is we run into a wall of lefties screaming 'freedom of speech' and 'racists' and
'stop attacking Islam the religion of peace'.

Perhaps the Israeli policy of assassinations should be undertaken in the west but very quietly.

Take the ringleaders out of circulation.

Ie: they just go missing or have an accident.

I really see no other solution, you cannot change their minds/reason with them and they WILL incite their followers to murder. Without the clerics the cannonfodder can't and won't act.

without absolution they will not be going to heaven and they will not be martyrs. so the priesthood is the heart of the problem.

like a snake: cut off the head and the body will die.
Posted by: Anon1 || 05/04/2003 20:11 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Top players blow in for didgeridoo festival
Some of Australia's top didgeridoo players are in Pine Creek, 230 kilometres south-east of Darwin, today for its annual Didgeridoo Festival. The day includes Indigenous cultural activities, winding up with a sunset concert. The concert also closes the Pine Creek's three-day Goldrush Festival. Organiser Elaine Gano says the Didgeridoo Festival has been growing steadily since it began in 1996 and they are expecting up to 600 people to attend. "It's a chance for them to hear traditional and contemporary playing, which is not something you can easily find these days, and also some very traditional dancing and it's free, so that adds to the attraction," she said.
Here's your chance... Wish I could make it!
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 02:09 pm || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You mean the few shaken survivors from the Aboriginal Holocaust?
Posted by: yellerKat || 05/04/2003 18:16 Comments || Top||

#2  I just cannot believe it's free: that's fantastic!

Some aboriginal festivals are extremely expensive for tourists (read rip-off).

Welcome one and all, come and have fun in Australia!!!!

I'll buy any rantburger I come across a beer!!!!

yellerKat is right though... the few shaken survivors from ATSIC more like it.

For the edification of rantburg, the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission receives in excess of $1billion a year to fund Aboriginal projects. It is headed by Geoff Clark, an individual who frequently indulges in pub brawls and who has had no less than 4 separate individuals who claimed he raped them and who have attempted to take him to court.

Aboriginal politics in Australia is rife with corruption.

Recently the federal government decided to separate ATSIC from the ability to spend it's $1billion annual budget due to the fact that hardly any of the money actually made it through to the poorest aboriginal people.

Aboriginal communities still have some people who live with no running water and bad health care yet the government alone shells out on average $60,000 for every Aboriginal man woman and child living in this country.

So where does all the money go? And that's not even counting the hundreds of millions that Aboriginal Traditional Owners get from Mining company royalties.

Another problem of multiculturalism: turn a blind eye to corrupt and undemocratic feudal practices in aboriginal communities and you end up with malnourished, alchohol-dependant and poverty-stricken people who are rapidly losing their culture but who lack the ability to replace the loss with anything productive.

There is a "genocide" going on but it isn't the fault of the government: it's the corrupt aboriginal leadership who are strangulating their own people!
Posted by: Anon1 || 05/04/2003 20:37 Comments || Top||

#3  "Another problem of multiculturalism: turn a blind eye to corrupt and undemocratic feudal practices in aboriginal communities and you end up with malnourished, alchohol-dependant and poverty-stricken people who are rapidly losing their culture but who lack the ability to replace the loss with anything productive.

There is a "genocide" going on but it isn't the fault of the government: it's the corrupt aboriginal leadership who are strangulating their own people! "

Anon 1, You are DEAD wrong. It is the fault of the govt for enabeling the "aboriginal leadership". I live on a U.S. "Native American tm" reservation and have wittnesed how dependence on govt "programs" have devastated the intended recipients.
Posted by: leonidas || 05/04/2003 21:52 Comments || Top||

#4  You are right, leonidas: it IS the governments fault to the extent that they enabled the corrupt indigenous leadership to exploit their own people.

I agree!

But the corrupt indigenous leadership must also take responsibility for misusing the funds that were *intended* to help their communities.

It was due to the PC brigade who didn't want a 'paternalistic' "white" state administering the aid but who wanted aboriginals to self-administer aid according to their own cultural dictates and power structures.

Unfortunately those power structures are the kind often that give all the decision-making ability to unelected, unaccountable tribal elders who are born, not voted in. It is simply corrupt feudalism all over again and that just leads to the poor old serfs getting none of the money.

You cannot absolve them of all blame and responsibility.
Posted by: Anon1 || 05/04/2003 22:49 Comments || Top||

#5  Hi Leo,
In Sth.Central Arizona I have the San Carlos Apache reservation to the East And White Mountain Apaches to the North,the best thing that has happened to these people is Indian Gameing(own and operate thier own casino's)this has made a great difference in the lives of Native Americans.
Reservations here in the U.S. are considered Soverign states with thier own governments,police,etc..
how does it work in Ausstralia?
Posted by: raptor || 05/05/2003 5:23 Comments || Top||


Europe
France, Germany Concerned About Iraq Force Plan
France and Germany expressed their reservations over the U.S. plans to form a stabilization force with their exclusion Saturday as it seems to be a punishment for their staunch anti-war opposition. French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin reserved on the scope of the plan, saying many countries that would like to take part were concerned about the legal underpinnings for any such force. "A lot of countries who were interested in joining the planned force expressed their concern about having a legal framework, specifically about clearly marking out the role of the United Nations so they could really take part, or consider doing so. "For the moment the aim is only to expand what the British and the Americans are already doing on the ground. Let's wait to see how things work out in practice," said De Villepin.

German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer also said his country knew about the plans, decided at a conference in London April 30. "It was clear that... a few EU states other than the UK were involved in it or at least made clear that they were participating with troops or troops and humanitarian aid," he said.

An American official said that the United States and its war allies were forming a stabilization force, dividing Iraq into three sectors to be commanded by the United States, Britain and Poland. "The thought is the force would be generated by a coalition of the willing on a bilateral basis," said the official. The official said there was a consensus in Washington that the U.N. role should be restricted to "what it does best" — humanitarian affairs, dealing with refugees and internally displaced people, and reconstruction.
Oooh. These grapes are kinda sour...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 01:20 pm || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Talking about the UN and "what it does best" is misleading. It's really about where the UN may do the least evil. In reality the UN should be abolished.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 05/04/2003 13:52 Comments || Top||

#2  many countries ..were concerned about the legal underpinnings
Jeesh...give it UP, Villepin, that tack didn't work, hasn't worked and won't work. You know the ol' saying, if it ain't broke... well, that saying only works if it ain't broke. Give it UP! Time to cut your losses and move on.
Posted by: Becky || 05/04/2003 15:01 Comments || Top||

#3  It's really too bad. I'm guessing that it will take a year, at least, maybe two, to work out the "legal underpinnings" so that the French could participate. I think Colin Powell so send someone ("Marvin" would be fine in this job) to Europe sometime in, oh, September to meet with de Villepin and hear his views. I'm sure that with protracted negotiations something could be done. We'd at least get a statement of agreed concerns.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/04/2003 19:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Man, Steve - you're bureaucratically vicious - I like that
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 20:37 Comments || Top||

#5  It's about time that we started to recognize what a good friend that we have in Poland. They are taking much grief in the EU for sticking by us.
Posted by: Anonymous || 05/04/2003 21:25 Comments || Top||

#6  As for Germany, it's impossible for us to send troops anywhere outside NATO territory except by request and leadership of the United Nations. The constitution says so and that article was certainly put there for good reason given Germany's history.
France may not need the legal framework of the UN but Germany certainly does.
Posted by: True German Ally || 05/04/2003 22:06 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Two more foreigner al-Qaida suspects nabbed
Agencies have arrested two more foreign national al-Qaida suspects from Karachi, Geo news channel reported on Sunday. Abdul Khaliq Mohammed and Abi Abdullah are Egyptian nationals, who were staying in Pakistan for long time, arrested from Khuda Ki Basti locality of Surjani Town. They were arrested on indication of a key al-Qaida operative Jawwad al-Bashar who was nabbed on Saturday night from Balochistan. The security agencies recovered a laptop computer, three AK-47 assault rifles, two pistols, two satellite phones and other sensitive communication devices, and a quantity of explosives from their possession.
They come in spurts. I guess I can take spurts...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 01:57 pm || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Mumbai police bust 2 terrorist training camps
Police have seized dangerous chemicals and arms from two terrorist training centres near Mumbai following the arrest of six activists of the Students Islamic Movement of India in the Mulund bomb blast case. Disclosing this at a press conference today, Maharashtra Deputy Chief Minister Chhagan Bhujbal said the militants, who had links with the terrorist organisation Lashkar e-Taiba, planned to use the cache to carry out attacks at Mantralaya, Girgaum Chowpatty, the Gateway of India, and other crowded places in Mumbai and also in south India. "With the arrest of six persons over a period of time, the police have managed to get to the root of the entire Mulund blast case, which is clearly linked to the Ghatkopar blast case," he said. Three others wanted in connection with the case were killed in an encounter.
Do Islamic students study any subjects other than explosives? (Didn't think so...)
The training camps were unearthed on two hilltops some three hours' drive from Mumbai, he said. The most important seizure was of 1kg potassium cyanide and bottles of sulphuric acid, ammonium nitrate and nitric acid, besides four AK-56 rifles, two pistols, and an equal number of revolvers. The six arrested persons have been identified as Saki Abdul Nachen, Atif Nasir Mullah, Habib Zuber Mullah, Ghulam Sattar, Mohammed Qamil Sheikh and Farhan Abdul Malik Khot. Those killed in the encounter earlier were Abdul Sultan, Abdul Ali (both Pakistanis) and Mohammed Iqbal (a Kashmiri).
Now, doesn't that come as a surprise! Goodness! I'm flabbergasted... I think. (Tap! tap! Dang. This surprise meter is busted again...)
The arrested persons were in touch with their associates in Pakistan and had visited that country a couple of times, Bhujbal said. Elaborating on the training centres, he said the accused men had visited them on three occasions for imparting training in the use of firearms. The places were being used for the past two years for this purpose, he added. At least 12 persons had received training at the camps and police are on the lookout for the associates of the six arrested men. According to Mumbai Police Commissioner R S Sharma, by unearthing the hilltop training venues, the police have dismantled a major 'training module' of the terrorists. They are yet to establish, however, if similar modules exist elsewhere in Maharashtra or India.
I'd guess they're there. Maybe not quite that developed yet...
"The evidence collected, including some documents, clearly indicates a link between the Ghatkopar blast and the Mulund blast," he said. "Police have also seized compact discs with speeches linked to the Godhra incident. The speeches by certain religious leaders were found to be provocative and aimed at misleading youths of a minority community."
Posted by: rg117 || 05/04/2003 11:20 am || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


No change in Kashmir policy: Pakistan
Pakistan on Sunday said it wanted a "meaningful and result-oriented" composite dialogue with India on resolving their disputes, including the core issue of Jammu and Kashmir, and there was no policy change on this, Online news agency reported.
"meaningful and result-oriented" composite dialogue? Can anyone decipher this diplospeak?
No need to decipher it. It means nothing...
Foreign Minister Khurshid Mehmood Kasuri was on Saturday quoted by the BBC Hindi service as saying that Pakistan was willing to resume business ties even before resolving the Kashmir dispute. A foreign office spokesman said on Sunday that Kasuri had been misquoted and reported out of context.
Lies, all lies!
He said Pakistan's policy was "quite clear and unambiguous in this regard".
Jihad for J&K!
"It has been reiterated that Pakistan desires a meaningful and result-oriented composite dialogue on all issues including the core issue of Kashmir. There has been no change in this policy," the spokesman said.
Is there an echo in here?
Meanwhile, the president of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir has said that though Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's initiative on restoring peace in the region was welcome, there would be no breakthrough on the Kashmir issue.
Well, nice way to start a dialogue
"We should remain affirm on our just and principled stance on Kashmir and should avoid consider other options regarding its solution", Sardar Muhammad Anwar Khan said during an interactive session with trainee officers at the Information Services Academy.
Set it in stone, hmmm? Only thing that can affect that would be a nuke blast. Heyyyyyyy
Speaking in Lahore, former law minister Khalid Ranjah urged the Indian and Pakistani governments to deploy their resources for poverty alleviation instead of focusing on military activities. Ranjah is the leader of a Pakistani parliamentary delegation that will visit India this week. Contending that peace in the region was in the best interest of both the countries, he said: "We want that both the countries use their resources for poverty alleviation and controlling their population (growth) instead of using them on defence".
we would like you to destroy your defenses, thank you
"And we have more poverty than you, so give us money."
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 10:28 am || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


50 more al-Qaeda men hiding in Karachi
Three Arabs, including the prime suspect of USS Cole bombing, Waleed Muhammad bin Attash alias Khalid al-Attash, were given in the custody of the US officials on Thursday, where they were being interrogated in the presence of Pakistani intelligence officials. The three Arabs, Waleed bin Attash, Abu Ammar and Abdul Aziz, who is said to be nephew of Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, and seven other al-Qaeda suspects were arrested from Karachi on Wednesday. Initially, they were interrogated by local intelligence officials and then al-Attash, Abu Ammar and Abdul Aziz were handed over to the US agents.

Waleed, a Yemeni, disclosed the presence of some 50 more al-Qaeda militants in Karachi. Waleed was being quizzed by the US officials about whereabouts of Osama bin Laden, future planning of the al-Qaeda and details of other militants, who were still at large, according to the sources. "Waleed told investigators that after the fall of Taliban some 75 al-Qaeda militants escaped to Karachi and out them some 50 militants are still hiding in the city," said a source. Waleed was allegedly motivating some local extremists to carry out suicide attacks against Americans. Waleed had delivered 'suicide motivation' lectures in various parts of the city, particularly in the Punjab Colony, to the activists of a banned outfit, adding that he persuaded at least a dozen men for carrying out such missions. The sources claimed that suicide attacks were planned against the US establishments in the country, including diplomatic missions, as well as various local sensitive installations.
I'd guess that the "banned outfit" is Lashkar e-Jhangvi or Sipah e-Sahabah — or whatever their names are this week. I'd also guess that figure of 50 is low...
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 05/04/2003 05:21 am || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Suicide motivation is for the rest of the little people, Waleed gets jugged and sings like a canary. We need to get these 50, then let it be widely known their "holy men" gave them up to save themselves
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 8:45 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Falluja Vows “Martyr Operations” Against U.S. Troops
The latest grenade attack on U.S. soldiers in the town of Falluja, 50km south of Baghdad, serves as a strong message for the U.S. occupation troops that their presence would not be tolerated, especially following their killing of 18 anti-occupation Iraq protesters over the past two days. Some sources in the town told IslamOnline.net, that the residents gave the U.S. authorities 48 hours to pull out troops from the town’s scientific center and al-Maqamia (court compound) and demanded them not to deploy soldiers inside the town, threatening they would take up arms if they failed to heed the demands. “If they did not leave our town, they would be regretful for that,” Dr. Hatme al-Zawti, of al-Ramadi hospital 30km from the town, told IOL, warning that the “residents were determined to carry out martyr operations against U.S. troops.”
Now, if I were in charge, Dr. al-Zawti would be standing against a wall counting muzzle blasts. Guess it's a good thing I'm not...
The Falluja resident had forced the American occupation forces to evacuate the school they were using as headquarters and named it “Martyrs School”. Zawti also said that Falluja is best known for its ignorance and xenophobia fervent religious zeal. “When the regime of Saddam Hussein established a cinema, the people here set it in flames. The regime was not able to open a pub or cabaret here,” he recalled. There were reports that U.S. soldiers distributed some hardcore movies in the town to spread immorality and vice. The American occupation troops also provoked the irk of Falluja residents by making no heed to their Islamic values and traditions. “They had the gall to peep at the families residing near their bases by their spyglasses,” charged Nouri Mohammad Mahdi. “They were also inviting me to smoke marijuana with them
I lashed out at them and said Iraq is an Islamic country, we don’t need your rubbish,” he added.
Golly, I wonder where these canards keep coming from...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 01:08 pm || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "By order of Gen. Garner, all Falluja martyrdom operations must be held inside the tank cordon in the Falluja town square between the hours of 1pm and 4pm. If you are unable to provide your own explosive vest, please check with the officer on duty and one will be provided.

Note: As we are running low on size L & XL vests, larger men are urged to come early. No further shipments are expected.

Thank you"
Posted by: snellenr || 05/04/2003 13:21 Comments || Top||

#2  "We got the best hash in the world, pal!"
Posted by: mojo || 05/04/2003 13:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Al-Zawti's just tired of the nagging from the wife and kids and's looking for the quickest way to a caribbean vacation
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 18:34 Comments || Top||


Iraqi Da'wa Party Resists Occupation By "Word"
After more than 20 years of banned and underground activities, al-Da'wa (Islamic Call) Party has come to light after the downfall of Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, calling for the establishment of an Islamic government that represents all ethnic and religious Iraqi communities and rejecting the U.S. occupation.
Amir Taheri mentioned this bunch in an article in mid-May. Turns out they're Sadr's party...
The party's platform, however, calls for resisting the occupation by "word", not by arms. "We are, no doubt against the U.S.-Anglo occupation and our advice to the U.S. troops is to withdraw (form Iraq) to avoid being bogged down in a quagmire. The Iraqis are sensitive to the occupation and their backlash would be violent
.The U.S. troops should put that in mind," the spokesman for the Shiite party, Abdul Kareem al-Enezi told IslamOnline.net. "We are part and parcel of this nation
we cannot fail it. And although we urge the Iraqis to resist the occupation by word for the time being and eschew violence but we cannot put a curb on their (anti-U.S.) feelings and reactions," said Enezi.
"And even if we could, we'd have no intention of doing so..."
On the party's platform, he said the party calls for "the establishment of an Islamic government that adopts Islam as a way of life."
"We like the idea of cutting people's heads off..."
"We divide our action into four categories: first, laying the stepping stone of the party and enticing Iraqis into our party; second, playing a leading role in Iraq's political landscape; third, establishing an Islamic government and fourth enjoining good and forbidding evil," he added. Enezi further said the party's broad guidelines are expected to be put forth within one or two days, noting that the party would press for "establishing an independent Iraqi state by its own people in a way that dose not conflict with Islamic Sharia law. "We enhance political plurality and the participation of Iraqi ethnic and religious communities. We are also keen on protecting human rights and call for an Iraq based on a constitution... We have no alternative but to call for a country that bolsters justice, equality, freedom and Islamic Shariaa law," he said.
"Nope. Nope. Nothin' else we can do..."
"We will try to stand on a common ground with all Iraqi national powers to draw up a joint platform capable of defending all (Iraqi) Muslims. We are neither a political nor a military Jihadist party, albeit politics is an integral part of our interest... Our party is based on entrenching Islam and enjoining good and forbidding evil."
I sense this is a "party" in the sense Jamaat e-Islami is in Pakland...
"It is an Islamic party that places all Muslims on equal footing. There is no difference whatsoever between Sunnis and Shiites Arabs or Kurds
 We [are] all like the teeth of a comb," he said. "The party has a politburo that helps promulgate its platform and form a national coalition with other Iraqi powers 
Although it is understaffed but they are shouldered with such responsibility." Asked whether or not the party had some cadres working inside Iraq during the era of Saddam, Enezi said the party resorted to clandestine meetings after the then Iraqi regime had tightened the noose around its members. "We were working in tandem with the Iraqi (opposition) exiles and enjoyed great popularity inside
 people were coming in droves to join our party and we could not contain all of them," he said. Enezi further said the party shares identical viewpoints with some of Iraqi parties, noting that it was communicating with most of Iraqi parties on a regular basis.
That's a scary thought. But now we know what they're about...
Al-Daawa party was established by Sheikh Mohammed Bakr al-Sadr in 1957. It was forced to go underground after Saddam had issued a decree in 1981 sentencing the party's members and their banner carriers to death in retrospect.
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#1  "an Islamic government that represents all ethnic and religious Iraqi communities"
like the kurds and chaldeans? Sounds like we need to use the kurds - who were a pretty good disciplined fighting force to keep these primitives in check. Let's not lose the peace
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 18:40 Comments || Top||


Iraqi Nuclear Site Is Found Looted
EFL - It doesn't sound right, but hey, it's from the Wash Post
A specially trained Defense Department team, dispatched after a month of official indecision to survey a major Iraqi radioactive waste repository, today found the site heavily looted and said it was impossible to tell whether nuclear materials were missing.
A month of indecision? Does anybody buy this? Apparently the WaPost does...
The discovery at the Baghdad Nuclear Research Facility was the second since the end of the war in which a known nuclear cache was plundered extensively enough that authorities could not rule out the possibility that deadly materials had been stolen. The survey, conducted by a U.S. Special Forces detachment and eight nuclear experts from a Pentagon office called the Direct Support Team, appeared to offer fresh evidence that the war has dispersed the country's most dangerous technologies beyond anyone's knowledge or control.
Notice any radiation sickness patients at the hospital?
"LeGume! Have your men round up everyone they find with gill slits!"
"Yes, Inspector!"
In all, seven sites associated with Iraq's nuclear program have been visited by the Pentagon's "special nuclear programs" teams since the war ended last month. None was found to be intact, though it remains unclear what materials -- if any -- had been removed.
I'm finding it very hard to believe we haven't found anything. Starting to buy into Den Beste's argument we have, and are, for various valid reasons, holding that info back
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 10:16 am || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey Frank, what's the link for Den Beste's article? My quick search came up empty.

We discussed a possible cover-up of WMD finds here at the 'burg back in the middle of April. My position is still that we found AoW complicity and are jabbing them in the side with it. Economic considerations?
Posted by: Scott || 05/04/2003 11:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Looked for a post as requested, but closest thing (maybe I was imagining it) I found was his comments on Daily Pundit:

"What I've been noticing is that a lot of things have been falling off the radar.

There was a story about discovery of a massive underground complex at a nuclear site which hadn't previously been suspected to exist. We got stories about it for a couple of days, and then silence. There was a story about an airfield that was captured which had some sort of bunker complex, then suddenly nothing. There have been several of those, and I've been thinking of going back over my notes and pulling together a collection to post. (Likewise, why haven't we heard anything more about that terrorist training facility SE of Baghdad?)

What I'm wondering is if maybe there may be some sort of news blackout. In other words, it's not so much that they haven't found anything, as that they haven't revealed what they've found for some reason or other. (I can think of several reasons why that might be happening.)"

and:

"By the way, keep in mind that this is the administration which is now famous for keeping silent in the face of rising criticism, and then massively turning the tide on all its critics and making them all look like idiots.

One way or another, it's much too soon to be coming to any kinds of conclusions."
Posted by Steven Den Beste on May 2, 2003 10:08 PM
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 11:37 Comments || Top||

#3  The left has been slow to bite, since it defies all common sense and logic to come to the conclusion that Sadaam never had the goods. But, don't worry, given enough time the lemmings will eventually make the leap.

I've been giving this much thought, and I think it has to do more to with the same (obscure) reasons that the FBI says: "he is not a suspect" when the boyfriend is caught with the head in his backpack....than it has to do with the fact that the silence is to allow the lemming left enough time to get their courage up to jump off the logic cliff.

However, (and I'm agreeable to being wrong on this point)....but wait...first let me preface my thought.... For a while, I was a "mystery chat" junkie, I followed interesting murder cases. And one thing that you could count on was this: when a reeeally big important fact became public, you could tell it reeeally was important when it disappeared into a black hole. You had to bookmark as Frank G. mentions, because the biggies were always accompanied by absolute silence.

I think what we are seeing here is the same thing. I think the Bush administration has the courage to let the law enforcement side take advantage of the "the right to remain silent". I too don't quite understand it, but I believe that this is all in the same vein.

Ahh...unless you are really interested in this thought..I don't think my post will make much sense.
Posted by: Becky || 05/04/2003 15:50 Comments || Top||

#4  I keep wondering whether Colin in about to give a follow up speech at the UN...drop a "bomb" on France when push comes to shove over lifting sanctions.
Posted by: john || 05/04/2003 20:36 Comments || Top||


Victims of repression unearthed in Iraq
Iraqis clawed or shovelled through a mass grave on Sunday to uncover the remains of dozens of people, some with blindfolds and hands tied, who appeared to have been executed in a 1991 Shi'ite Muslim uprising. By the end of the day, 47 bundles of remains had been reburied in unmarked graves. They wore civilian clothes and shoes. Combs, coins and watches lay among them, along with bullet casings. Yellow twine coated with a coppery crust, which the diggers thought was blood, bound some of their wrists. Around the farmland area known as Khan al-Rubea were countless other mounds where Red Crescent workers and officials from a Shi'ite Muslim group, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), said they suspected more remains lay. At a second site nearby, a skull with a red and white scarf tied around the eye sockets was found. Another skull lay near it. "This is the tip of the iceberg in this country," said Captain Mike Urena, a U.S. Marines civil affairs officer who visited the second site on Sunday and then turned it over to local Red Crescent authorities. "I am sure you will find more."
I left the headline as it was on the original article. Even Reuters can't bring themselves to use scare quotes...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 09:56 am || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Garrafollo, Sarandon, and the rest of the Hollywood Halfwits should be handed a shovel and told to go help disinter the bodies of Saddam's oppresion. Maybe then they'd finally get it.
Posted by: Someone who did NOT vote for William Proxmire || 05/04/2003 10:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Garagalo and her Communettes are in hiding at the moment, licking their wounds, trying to find the words which will assuage their vacuous consciences and those of their comrades. And that is where their critics, such as myself, should be; only not licking wounds, but sharpening wits to put these maggot farmers out of business for good, once they think the coast is clear.
Posted by: badanov || 05/04/2003 12:03 Comments || Top||

#3  pshaw..it's not like the 40 million that Stalin slaughtered ever bothered them, or that they lost a moment's sleep over Pol Pot's killing fields.

Licking their wounds...I doubt it. The only licking they are doing is of their chops for their next big Anti-American celebrity moment on a big time show, where they can practice their art "acting" like they have a conscience.
Posted by: Becky || 05/04/2003 15:12 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Philippine guerrillas kidnap 20
At least three people were killed in the southern Philippines on Sunday as security forces fought a band of about 70 suspected Muslim guerrillas who stormed a remote town, officials said. The rebels kidnapped at least 20 civilians, including the town mayor's wife and son, as they withdrew. They said sporadic fighting was still going on in the town of Siocon on Mindanao island, and that they feared there were more casualties. Two policemen and a soldier were confirmed killed but there were a lot of civilians in the town because of a local festival. "There were many civilian casualties because it was the eve of the fiesta," a senior military official who asked not to be named told reporters.
Best time for Islamists to attack, isn't it? Who brings weapons to a fiesta?
The wounded numbered at least seven — three soldiers, one policeman and three civilians, according to the official. The rebels attacked a town hall, a public market and a hospital. The military said it believed the guerrillas included men from the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), the biggest of several Muslim rebel groups in the south; the Abu Sayyaf which is listed as a foreign terrorist group by Washington with suspected links to the al Qaeda network; and some other renegades.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 02:30 pm || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Best time for Islamists to attack, isn't it? Who brings weapons to a fiesta? or a hajj?
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 18:35 Comments || Top||

#2  The religion of Peace (TM) strikes again.

I bet on SBS/ABC news in Australia it will be reported as "rebels" and "guerillas" and the word "Islam" will not be mentioned nor will "muslim".
Posted by: Anon1 || 05/04/2003 22:40 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Hizb ut-Tahrir announces the death of its Amir
Hizb ut-Tahrir wishes to announce to the Muslim Ummah the death of its Ameer and leader, the eminent scholar Abu Yusuf Shaykh ‘Abdul Qadeem Zalloom whom Allah took unto Himself on 29th April 2003. He was taken from a life approaching eighty years spent in obedience to Allah and obedience to His Messenger. He spent his life as a scholar, worker and carrier of the Islamic Da’wah in the ranks of the Hizb for more than fifty years.
Never once did he hold a real job...
As a leader of the Hizb, throughout which he had to undergo many difficult circumstances for twenty six years without giving in or losing resolve, struggling against the Zalimeen, far from his family and children in the Path of Allah, exerting his utmost effort to resume the Islamic way of life by establishing the righteous Khilafah. Even though Allah decreed that Abu Yusuf should join his journey’s companion the Ameer and founder Abu Ibraheem ‘Allamah Shaykh Taqiuddin an-Nabhani without witnessing the establishment of the Righteous Khilafah. However, his brothers after him will continue to traverse the same path drawn out by Rasool-ul-Allah by revelation from his Lord. They are determined, by Allah’s leave, to continue for the sake of Allah without fearing the blame of no one to establish the righteous Khilafah. To raise its banner in all corners of the world, shading the pure dust that is on their graves and bringing Islam and the Muslims their honour and dignity. And then on that day shall the believers rejoice for the victory of Allah.
Yep. We knew they wanted to be in charge of the entire world...
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Home Front
The Washington battlefield
For liberalhawk... Lightly EFL
The second battleground of the Iraq war is Washington where the conflict sparked a succession of factional power struggles. In 21st century Washington, promising careers are crushed, reputations die, but not people, They stay alive to fight the next battle, and to sabotage one another. Take the recent flap over who will be top honcho in the running and reconstruction of newly liberated Iraq. According to the State Department, the new boss will be Paul Bremer, a former chief of the State Department's Counter-Terrorism Bureau. According to the Pentagon, however, the man in charge is still former Lt. Gen. Jay Garner.
Wasn't Bremer supposed to be appointed last week?
On his flight to Damascus, Secretary of State Colin Powell would not comment on the stories about Bremer. But coincidentally also in a plane returning from Afghanistan, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld lavished praise on the work Garner was doing, but did not mention Bremer. News of Bremer's appointment was first leaked late last week. The resulting flap is the latest skirmish in the ongoing battle inside the National Security Council where the Pentagon's civilian leaders have fought tooth and nail for control over everything from which Iraqis get invited to town hall meetings (and which do not), to the broadcasters the U.S. government plans to hire for Iraq's new state run media. Both sides routinely accuse the other of supporting ex-Baathists. In the past two weeks, senior Pentagon leaders have whispered to reporters and lawmakers that the intelligence from the CIA was atrocious during Operation Iraqi Freedom. They mention the two apparently failed strikes against Saddam Hussein, and the failure to find the missing leader, who is still believed to be alive and somewhere in his country.
Tasting raisins with Osama, I'd say.
Meanwhile, the CIA has trashed the Pentagon's favorite Iraqi exile leader, Ahmad Chalabi, for being financially corrupt, too close to the Iranian government and unpopular in Iraq itself.
Recent NY Sun had an interesting editorial on this case--seems Chalabi was prosecuted in a court never before used against anyone else, and in fact only set up days before handing down his conviction.
The 2004 budget for the Pentagon requests full funding for a new undersecretary of defense to analyze intelligence, a position that would likely formalize the independent analysis the Pentagon provided to the president in the policy debates leading up to new Iraq war. All of which is part of a larger picture of incoherence in the Bush administration's Middle East policy. When President George W. Bush called for "new and different leadership" for the Palestinian Authority, the Pentagon took this as a cue to cultivate leaders with no connections at all to Yasser Arafat.
You mean Arafat hasn't killed them all?
The State Department, on the other hand, seized the opportunity to recruit Arafat's deputy in the Palestinian Liberation Organization, Abu Mazen. While Abu Mazen has distanced himself from Arafat, the hawks in the administration felt the diplomats had betrayed the president. Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich said publicly on April 22 what so many hawks had said privately, when he called the new peace plan published this week a "deliberate and systematic effort to undermine the president's policies procedurally." Such statements are dangerously close to alleging treason. But the State Department did not shy away from the rhetorical battle. Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Beth Jones called Gingrich "an idiot," while another senior State Department official suggested Gingrich may have forgotten to take his medications.
Of course, they could all be right.
This nastiness reflects an administration that has yet to settle basic internal debates on vital questions of U.S. national security. For example, there is no consensus on who the enemy is. Senior hawks like Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz would contend America is at war with all states that sponsor terrorist organizations and pursue weapons of mass destruction.
Uh, yeah, that's what Bush said.
Therefore, America's foreign policy goals should lead eventually to ending these regimes. Powell and the CIA believe such states can be coopted to do America's dirty work against an enemy that is distinct from states, the global terrorist organization. This group would agree with former Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbot when he said shortly after September 11, 2001: "Al-Qaida is the ultimate NGO." Whether America's diplomats should work with bad states to crack down on worse actors, or work to undermine those states, needs to be resolved. If it is not, expect to see more bickering and even less coherence.
First one, then the other. Simple, huh?
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#1  Sorry, probably should have chopped more. Couldn't find a preview button though!
Posted by: someone || 05/04/2003 18:51 Comments || Top||

#2  When President George W. Bush called for "new and different leadership" for the Palestinian Authority, the Pentagon took this as a cue to cultivate leaders with no connections at all to Yasser Arafat.

The State Department, on the other hand, seized the opportunity to recruit Arafat's deputy in the Palestinian Liberation Organization, Abu Mazen.


I think I've finally figured it out: The Defense department has no qualms in believing that the President is Commander in Chief, but the State Department thinks it knows better than the President. Time to crack the whip and put a few extra crevices into some Foggy Bottoms...
Posted by: Ptah || 05/04/2003 19:06 Comments || Top||

#3  "Senior hawks .... would contend America is at war with all states that sponsor terrorist organizations and pursue weapons of mass destruction"

"Powell ..... believe such states can be coopted to do America's dirty work against an enemy that is distinct from states"


I'd have to go with the Hawks here. If we are to learn a lesson from history we need to remember that Saddam, Osama, Pakland ISI were all at one point doing the US's / CIA's dirty work and were great friends. In the short term it always looks like a great idea but in the long term they always come back to kick you in the nuts, It's just Karma.
You can't go around the world preaching the virtues of freedom and democracy whilst at the same time you're in bed with states that deny that same freedom and democracy.
Posted by: rg117 || 05/04/2003 19:21 Comments || Top||

#4  All of which is part of a larger picture of incoherence in the Bush administration's Middle East policy.
Typical UPI blather. QUESTION: How do the available facts surrounding this sentence lead one to the conclusion that this sentence is a true statement
ANSWER: They don't.

Sometimes I wonder if their isn't a person at the news Agencies whose job it is to go around inserting statements just like this one, after the piece is complete. Just sticks 'em in anywhere he can.

Some guy with a whip who walks around with a little can full of sentences that all authors are obligated to insert somewhere into their stories before they are allowed out on the wire, like: "Bush is stupid and has big ears", "quagmire", "America's incompetent cowboy attitude", "European smart and cultured attitudes", Americans ineptitude and bumbling", "Republican's and Bush are pooh-pooh faces, Democrat's and Clinton are rocking cool".

This piece is a perfect example of an over-zealous sentence-adder who really didn't bother to really finess in his anti-Bush statement.
Posted by: Becky || 05/04/2003 20:41 Comments || Top||

#5  RG117 is right

we can no longer overlook the 'unintended consequences' of supporting states that rule in an evil manner.

ANyway, as seen in Iraq, you can both smash the evil states and the evil NGO terrorist Islamofascist groups at the SAME TIME creating a better world all round and the new free states will help in keeping it that way.
Posted by: Anon1 || 05/04/2003 20:53 Comments || Top||

#6  Absolultlly agree if a State harbors,protects,suports terrorist then it is a terrorist state,is our enemy and should be treated accordingly.

Velvet glove-iron fist
Posted by: raptor || 05/05/2003 5:46 Comments || Top||


Korea
North Korea 100 N-weapons aimed at US, propagandist claims
North Korea has at least 100 nuclear missiles aimed at the United States and will use them if new economic sanctions are imposed against it, a North Korean propagandist claimed Sunday. Kim Myong Chol, who styles himself executive director of the Centre for Korea-American Peace, told an Australian channel that North Korea may have minimum 100 nuclear warheads, maximum 300. He claimed the nuclear technology used to produce the missiles had been tested in Pakistan and the weapons had been made before Pyongyang's non-proliferation agreement with the administration of former US president Bill Clinton in 1994.
Ummm... I'm starting to come around to the idea that we should be paving North Korea. I'm still not sure about paving Pakland...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 02:07 pm || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Possibly noting the days when the winds are drifting NW'ly and publicly commenting on it should be enough to tweak the Chinese into action. Further threats to withdraw our troops and supply Aegis and nukes to Taiwan would ensure it. If they don't choose to get into this and spank their terrier back into obedience, paving it will be the only option
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 18:47 Comments || Top||


East/Subsaharan Africa
Hookers cash in on fuel-starved motorists
Long winding queues for fuel in Zimbabwe might be a nightmare for motorists but they are good business for one group of people — hookers sex workers. The official Sunday Mail reports the three-year-old fuel crisis is proving a "blessing in disguise" for female sex workers, who are "cashing in" on the situation. "Some commercial sex workers spend nights with motorists in vehicles and commuter omnibuses in fuel queues at garages," the paper said.
"Heh heh! If my wife could only see me now!"
"She's four cars up. Want me to go get her?"
Fuel queues have become part of daily life for many Zimbabweans, who queue for hours and sometimes days to be able to purchase the scarce commodity.
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#1  And you can have an excellent chance of getting AIDS, at no additional charge............
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 05/04/2003 16:00 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Sheikh Nimir: Blood of martyrs is the road map to liberation
Sheikh Ahmed Nimir, one of the Hamas Movement leaders in the Gaza Strip, has affirmed the importance of honoring blood of martyrs. Nimir was speaking at a mourning ceremony for the martyr Nidal Salama, one of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine’s cadres who was assassinated by Zionist occupation forces last week. The Sheikh called for supporting relatives of martyrs who offered their souls for the sake of the nation and the cause, adding that blood of those martyrs was the road-map leading the Palestinian people to liberation and independence.
Ahah. A counter-roadmap...
Representatives of national and Islamic forces along with prominent figures and PFLP cadres and leaders and hundreds of citizens attended the ceremony organized by the Front yesterday in the southern Gaza Strip city of Khan Younis. Nimir emphasized that the Palestinian people would pursue their intifada regardless of sacrifices and would foil all conspiracies that target aborting their brave resistance.
Still more conspiracies...
He affirmed the importance of sticking to the resistance option and escalating intifada until elimination of Zionist occupation and realization of national legitimate rights.
"Yes! Yes! Keep killing yourselves, my people!"
Omar Tayeh, one of the PFLP cadres, said that the Front had lost a prominent leader who had a played distinctive role in the Front’s march and in backing Palestinian struggle.
Ah, yes. He will be missed. By his Mom, anyway...
He affirmed that his Front would violently retaliate to the cowardly assassination and would hunt agents to the Zionist killers.
"Yes! We must have Dire Revenge™!"
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 01:36 pm || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Israel isn't going to have a minute's peace until it throws the whole Arab bunch out. The Arab idea of "Palestine" is everything that belongs to Israel, as well as Gaza and the West Bank. Israel knows this, and is getting pretty damned tired of the rest of the world trying to marginalize their existence.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 05/04/2003 14:29 Comments || Top||

#2  rather than a counter-roadmap, I think these moves and the people who make them are speedbumps as long as GWB is in office. As most here have read been subjected to my rants, I believe a true Paleo civil war is the only way they'll eventually be dragged kicking and screaming into peace and the 21st century. Oh, and Yasser's bloody, ugly death at Paleo hands. Have a nice day ;-)
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 19:07 Comments || Top||

#3  I agree with you Frank. There is only so much a family counselor can do, eventually the family needs to really have it out amongst themselves.

As Jefferson once said, ""a little rebellion now and then is a good thing"
Posted by: Becky || 05/04/2003 23:10 Comments || Top||


Yassin: Resistance will continue
Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, founder and spiritual leader of the Islamic Resistance Movement, Hamas, has affirmed that resistance operations would persist until ejection of Zionist occupation from all Palestinian lands. Yassin in press statements voiced during his participation in the funeral procession of the martyrs in the Shuja’iah massacre said that resistance would continue using all available means in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Palestinian lands occupied in 1948.
"We want it all, dammit!"
“The funeral procession of the Shuja’iah carnage is a clear message rejecting Zionist massacres in lines of the Palestinians, the latest of which was in Shuja’iah suburb that claimed several lives including women and children”, he elaborated. In a bloody incursion into the Shuja’iah suburb on Thursday Zionist occupation forces murdered 15 Palestinians including Mujahideen affiliated with the Hamas Movement and a number of civilians including three children. The Hamas leader described the American peace settlement the Road-map as a new conspiracy against the Palestinian people.
Ah! Conspiracies! Deep-laid plots! Mysterious cabals! I LIKE it!
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 01:31 pm || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Those zionists slaughtered the women the children the kittens AND the puppies, and raped the baby ducks.
Posted by: Anon1 || 05/04/2003 21:38 Comments || Top||


Sharon To Head ‘Peace Talks’ With Abu Mazen Personally
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon will head negotiations with the Palestinians himself and may resume contacts with newly-appointed Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmud Abbas shortly, Israeli media said. Sharon told his ministers at a weekly cabinet meeting of his intention to personally head negotiations which are set to resume with a new U.S.-led peace initiative. The radio added that a meeting was imminent between the right-wing Sharon and Abbas, whom Israel sees as a pragmatic moderate ready to demilitarize the Palestinian Intifada. The radio said the meeting should take place after Israel's Independence Day celebrations Wednesday. Abbas' new security chief, Mohammed Dahlan, has already initiated contacts to enable the two leaders to meet. Sharon met Sunday with his Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz at the weekly cabinet meeting to discuss security issues with the Palestinians. The move toward resuming talks, which broke down some 18 months ago amid rising violence, came as U.S. Middle East envoy William Burns arrived in Israel to meet officials from both Israel and the Palestinian administration ahead of a visit by U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell.
I thought they'd go ahead with it, despite the jihadis efforts to derail it. I'm curious as to what Dahlan is going to do. He's the third minister of interior in a year...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 01:27 pm || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sharon can actually take the high ground if he's serious about removing indefensible (militarily and politically) settlements. Israel -which I totally defend as a state and an American ally - needs to make the moves for peace, but ONLY after they have a willing partner in the paleos.Until the Paleos give up their dream to drive the Jews into the sea, as well as their right of return (which exists nowhere in the mideast save for at the point of kurd guns - oops, bad example) which will NEVER happen, Sharon can give lip service. It is apparent to most Israelis though, from my readings, that the settlements cannot expand, and must be withdrawn to defensible borders
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 21:24 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon
Syria Paleos say no change after Powell trip
Several radical Palestinian factions said it was business as usual for their offices in Damascus on Sunday, a day after U.S. Secretary of State Collin Powell said Syria had begun to clamp down on them.
Bashar's a very stupid man, isn't he? Does he think he's going to be asked a third time?
"This is just talk, it's a storm in a cup because we are merely media offices," Abu Jihad Talaat of Islamic Jihad told Reuters. "The position of (Syrian President) Dr Bashar al-Assad is very clear toward the Palestinian people's rights." Islamic Jihad has claimed many suicide attacks during the the 31-month-old Palestinian uprising in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, saying it is legitimate to resist Israeli occupation. It says its Damascus office plays no part in planning such attacks.
But it belongs to IJ...
Marwan Abou Sami, a member of the political office of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, said the groups had not been told officially of any move to shut their offices. In a recent meeting with Palestinian groups, Syria's Foreign Minister Farouk al-Sharaa "did not talk of the closure of any offices and did not offer any advice that we join (the policies of) the Palestinian Authority," said Abou Sami.
Nothing. Zilch. Zippo. So Bashar is a demonstrated liar again. Tusk, tusk.
Moutasem Hamadeh, of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, said of the meeting with Sharaa: "What the Syrian leadership informed us about was its commitment to safeguard the rights of the Palestinian people. Powell knows very well that our offices have no role in the uprising. He, with his country's massive intelligence service, knows that we are only press offices."
This is starting to sound like the ISI meeting with the Taliban in the aftermath of 9-11. I notice the ISI wasn't what ended up getting dismantled, though...
The Damascus office of Hamas, the biggest militant group, declined comment on Powell's remarks, but in Beirut the group shrugged off U.S. pressure, saying its office in Syria was open and that the fight with Israel would continue.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 05/04/2003 09:51 am || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This represents true stupidity and duality of the PALs. They think that just because they only fund and cheer attacks, they are not guilty. The need to re-read W's post-911 speech. Also his speech after iraqi Freedom. If you are with 'them' we can 'reach out and touch you.' These guys are too dumb to give up their ways, so the last thing they will hear is a smart bomb crashing through the roof of their HQs. I would hit them ALL at once, lest the other try to lie their way out of it.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 05/04/2003 10:32 Comments || Top||

#2  I would keep the two MOABS we made in the vicinity and not pull them out. I have a feeling in my bones that we are going for surgical urban renewal in Damascus. Powell gave them the soft speaking, and the big stick is not far behind.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 05/04/2003 14:05 Comments || Top||


Syria dumped Iraq’s WMD’s in Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley
EFL - Debka Alert! - Large grains of salt...
Syria is reported by DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s intelligence sources as having secretly disposed of Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction by moving them into eastern Lebanon for burial in the Beqaa Valley. Iraq’s biological weapons may be there too. They were interred deep under the heroin poppy and cotton fields in two of the most fertile regions of Lebanon: the valley stretching between Jabal Akroum, the town of al Qbayyat and the Syrian border, and the land lying between the towns of Al Hirmil and al Labwah between the Orontes River and the Syrian frontier.
Boy that's a two-fer - Heroin with an extra-chemical kick, and cotton clothes that are antibacterial
On February 14, about a month before the start of the war in Iraq, DEBKA-Net-Weekly Issue 97 ran an article captioned “Is Iraq’s WMD cache in Lebanon available to Al Qaeda?” Now, our intelligence sources can disclose exclusively that the relocation of Iraq’s WMD systems took place between January 10 and March 10 and was completed just 10 days before the US-led offensive was launched against Iraq. The banned arsenal, hauled in giant tankers
(invisible to satellite - giant tankers?)
from Iraq to Syria and from there to the Bekaa Valley under Syrian special forces and military intelligence escort, was discharged into pits 6-8 meters across and 25-35 meters deep dug by Syrian army engineers. They were sealed and planted over with new seedlings. Nonetheless, their location is known and detectable with the right instruments. Our sources have learned that Syria was paid about $35 million to make Saddam Hussein’s forbidden weapons disappear.
That sort of activity would also be pretty visible to satellite photos...
Before US secretary of state Colin Powell arrived in Damascus on Saturday, May 3, the Syrians made the placatory gesture to Washington of speeding and upgrading the handover of Iraqi fugitives from the Saddam regime sheltering in Syria. DEBKA-Net-Weekly has learned from its most exclusive sources that on Monday, April 28, Dr. Rihab Taha, a microbiologist known as Dr. Germ, was turned over to the Americans in Iraq. She had directed Iraq’s biological weapons program.
Oooh. Hadn't heard about that one...
Also turned over was Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash, who headed Iraq’s anthrax project. No announcement was made of their capture. However, the surrender 24 hours later of Taha’s husband, General Amir Rashid Muhammad, director of Iraq’s missile development program and best known by his nickname “The Missile Man”, was announced.
Hmmm I wondered how Taha and her hubs were separated
The United States is therefore fully apprised of the whereabouts of Saddam Hussein’s arsenal of unconventional weapons and has taken custody of the scientists who developed them.
Maybe Bush is selling the rope his opponents will hang themselves with later? Sweeeeeeet
But DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s sources say Washington was nevertheless far from placated and Powell’s meeting with the Syrian president Saturday was a confrontation. The secretary of state laid down the following demands:
1. A map with the coordinates of the pits holding Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.

2. Surrender of Saddam’s most senior insiders who fled to Aleppo and Latakiya. After DEBKAfile blew the whistle on April 3, the group staying at the Cote D’Azur De Cham Resort in Latakia was whisked away leaving their families comfortably ensconced there.

3. Handover of the two senior Al Qaeda members now in Damascus. DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military and intelligence sources say their names and whereabouts were uncovered by US intelligence units in Iraq.

4. An explanation of Syrian motives in allowing two British terrorists, Assif Mohammed Hanif, who blew himself up in Tel Aviv on April 30, and Omar Khan Sharif, who ran away, to transit Damascus en route to Israel. (One of the duo spent four months of preparation in the Syrian capital with the Hamas operations officer and associate of Hizballah Imad al-Alamai, as reported exclusively by DEBKAfile.)

5. An immediate stop to the military-terrorist activities of the Lebanese Hizballah and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas in Syria and Lebanon. Failure to do so, Powell explained, will result in a painful tightening of economic pressure on Syria, after the loss of $1b in oil revenues from Baghdad.
kiss your oil g'bye and think of what a blockade on the Med would do, Assad? You'd have to get your goods from Israel, Jordan, Turkey or us...and none of us really like you....
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 09:37 am || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not to mention the story above where the various terrorist orgs are loudly putting the lie to Sonny's claims of a crackdown. Your buddies, you can always count on them...
Posted by: mojo || 05/04/2003 14:11 Comments || Top||


Korea
North Drawing Lessons From Saddam’s Fall
via command post
North Korea is evaluating its leaders to confirm their loyalty to the regime, assuming the Saddam Hussein regime fell because its military leaders betrayed it, a private U.S. global intelligence consulting firm said over the weekend.
Its military leaders, seeing a suicide mission coming in defending Saddam opted out in large part
The consultant, Stratfor, quoted North Korean informed services in Europe as saying high North Korean officials were closely analyzing the Iraq war to learn lessons from it. The North believes that the Saddam regime collapsed due to the betrayal of Iraq's military leaders rather than superior U.S. military capabilities, Stratfor said, adding that Pyongyang thinks it can make a U.S. attack less likely if such internal betrayals do not occur.
Hokay - let the purges begin - aren't psyops fun when the other side's psychotic, schizophrenic, and starving by candlelight?
Stratfor said Pyongyang would take appropriate actions to prevent such betrayals from occurring within its ranks. North Korea is starting to strengthen the union between its leaders and the public
giving them four grains of millet and two ounces of grass a week
the consultant said. Pyongyang implemented a new military service law in March under which government officials under the age of 40 who avoided military service will have to go back and fulfill it.
At the DMZ? Or digging tunnels? Way to breed love for dear leader
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 08:50 am || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe an opportunity to grab some useful defectors?
Posted by: someone || 05/04/2003 9:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Long stem grass with special dipping sauce
Posted by: Lucky || 05/04/2003 10:25 Comments || Top||

#3  A nice little ideological purge. That'll help.

Tick, tick, tick...
Posted by: mojo || 05/04/2003 13:57 Comments || Top||

#4  The betrayal of Sammy's military leaders occurred BECAUSE of the U.S.'s superior military capablities, with large doses of psyop. The military leaders did not want to go into the JDAM blender. Maybe the NK leaders need a psyop experiment, just for grins.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 05/04/2003 16:09 Comments || Top||

#5  were closely analyzing the Iraq war to learn lessons from it

Hmmm....this bothers me. Sure...it's nice to think of all those Kim J. butt kissers getting their just desserts. But......let's step back for a moment. Is this just Kimmy paranoia...or is his intel correctly predicting and planning for their "future".

Am I the only one who thinks...whoa! the implications of this article is that Kim is making plans to prevent his senior officers from defecting in the way that Sadaam's did. The point being that...in order for Kimmy's senior officers to do that...there needs to be a WAR against NKOR like there was against Sammy.

Are we planning a war against the NKOR's? Or is this just a ploy? Are we planning to just sit back and watch him self destruct, shooting his most senior officers while his army starves to death... or ..... does Kimmy have a point...he needs to evaluate the mistakes of Sadaam????

Posted by: Becky || 05/04/2003 16:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Becky, I think this is just Plain Kimmy Paranoia: The Lackeys of dictators have always been chosen because of loyalty, not intelligence. When it comes to Kimmy, intelligence is strictly downside.

Let them draw lessons from GW II. Because they want to make sure Kimmy will like what he hears, they'll be drawing the WRONG lessons. Advantage us.
Posted by: Ptah || 05/04/2003 19:20 Comments || Top||

#7  "....betrayal of Iraq's military leaders rather than superior U.S. military capabilities,..."

Who wants to be the first dead man to stand up and tell Kimmie that his army centered policy may not be all it is cracked up to be?
Posted by: john || 05/04/2003 20:48 Comments || Top||


Home Front
UN Thugs Pillage UN Cafeterias and Bars
At noon on Friday, food workers at the U.N. headquarters walked off their jobs, calling a wildcat strike. The result: none of the U.N.'s five restaurants and bars was staffed. The walkout left thousands of U.N. employees scrounging for lunch — eventually, the masses stripped the cafeterias of everything, including the silverware.
Think of it as the "Food for Lunch Program"...
The food workers staged a one-day show of muscle after they learned that they would not be reimbursed for vacation pay due to a contract shift that took place in March. That was enough to set the food workers walking during the height of Friday's lunch hour. After that, what ensued was nothing short of Baghdad style chaos. Kofi Annan, who had a private lunch previously scheduled with the members of the Security Council in the Delegates Dining Room, found they were only served the main course. After that, they were on their own — no desserts, no cleanup, no coffee for Kofi. And the service was no better for anyone else at the U.N. But as tensions grew and stomachs growled, a high-ranking U.N. official boldly ordered that all the cafeterias open their doors for business even without staff. The restaurants had been locked shut by security until about 1:00 pm when the doors flung open.
"Free food!"
The decision to make the cafeterias into "no pay zones" spread through the 40-acre complex like wildfire. Soon, the hungry patrons came running from as far away as Botswana. "It was chaos, wild, something out of a war scene," said one Aramark executive who was present. "They took everything, even the silverware," she said. Another witness from U.N. security said the cafeteria was "stripped bare." And another told TIME that the cafeteria raid was "unbelievable, crowds of people just taking everything in sight; they stripped the place bare." And yet another astonished witness said that "chickens, turkeys, souffles, casseroles all went out the door (unpaid)." The mob then moved on to the Viennese Café, a popular snack bar in the U.N.'s conference room facility. It was also stripped bare. The takers included some well-known diplomats who finished off the raid with free drinks at the lounge for delegates. When asked how much liquor was lifted from the U.N. bar, one U.S. diplomat responded: "I stopped counting the bottles." He then excused himself and headed towards the men's room.
LOL! Can't make stuff like that up!
An Aramark executive estimated the food "removed" from the U.N.'s main cafeteria at between $7,000 and $9,000 not including the staff restaurant, the Viennese Café or the Delegate's Bar. The value of the missing silverware has yet to be estimated.
Posted by: John Phares || 05/04/2003 08:27 am || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Glenn Reynolds suggests they need more Marines posted there to stop the looting - heh heh
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2003 9:50 Comments || Top||

#2  In related news,Belgium will file charges against the Bush administration and the City of New York for failure to stop the looting at the UN headquarters.The Belgian Minister of Justicé,Michel Wafflehed,described the US inaction as "a crime against humaniteé and ze little puppies".The ministry declined further comment.
Posted by: El Id || 05/04/2003 9:56 Comments || Top||

#3  You see? This is all our fault, because we established a precedent when our forces allowed looting to go unchecked in Baghdad. We're responsible for this, because we attacked Iraq without the moral legitimacy that would have been conferred by UN approval.

Wait... I'm confused...
Posted by: Dave D. || 05/04/2003 10:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Obviously this is a pretext concocted by the Bush administration to justify a preemptive NYPD strike on UN headquarters. The next phase will be a merciless barrage of precision-guided parking tickets.
Posted by: Matt || 05/04/2003 11:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Better park some tanks in front of Tavern on the Green first...
Posted by: seafarious || 05/04/2003 12:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Obviously General Powell had a poor battle plan: he did not allow for enough personnel to handle things when the Koffi Fedayeen attacked the supply lines.
Posted by: Richard T || 05/04/2003 13:48 Comments || Top||

#7  Ah, it is the beginning of the end! The UN-iks turn on themselves...........for lunch. CIA...great idea, great op!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 05/04/2003 13:59 Comments || Top||



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