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Home Front: Politix
Tea Party leads both Dems and Pubs in Favorability
The public’s frustration with the direction of the country has rubbed off on both Democrats and Republicans.

In addition to Obama’s job approval rating at 47 percent, fewer than four in 10 say they are confident he has the right set of goals and policies, which is down 15 points since his election.

And only one-third have confidence the president has the right goals and priorities to improve the economy, down 13 points since June.

What’s more, while Obama holds an overall 50 percent to 37 percent positive/negative rating in the poll, the number with a “very positive” view of him dropped from 36 percent in October to 29 percent this month.

Despite these lower numbers, the president remains the most popular American politician in the survey. Just 32 percent have a positive view of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, compared with 40 percent who see her in a negative light.

The entire Republican Party, moreover, continues to maintain a net-negative favorable/unfavorable rating, 28 percent to 43 percent.

But, for the first time in more than two years, the Democratic Party also now holds a net-negative rating, 35 percent to 45 percent.

By comparison, the conservative libertarian-leaning Tea Party movement has a net-positive 41 percent to 23 percent score in the poll.

Further demonstrating a disappointment with Democrats and Republicans in Washington, an overwhelming 81 percent believe that the past year in Congress has been marked by division and a lack of willingness to compromise.

Compare that with a majority (52 percent) who thought — immediately after Obama’s presidential victory — that unity would prevail in 2009.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 12/17/2009 12:11 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Read somewhere this morning that unemployment benefit applications is "higher than expected". Guess stimulous really does stimulate, unemployment that is. The politicians are Enroning all of America at warp speed...
Posted by: Chunky Phaving7818 || 12/17/2009 12:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Why do the politicians hate America?
Posted by: JohnQC || 12/17/2009 16:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Simple, John:

"America - Proudly Ungovernable Since 1776" :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/17/2009 19:03 Comments || Top||

#4  To give credit where credit is due, Rush mentioned this yesterday morning but it is a cautionary tale:
Watch for the MSM to start lauding the idea of the tea party candidates and third party initiatives at state and federal level. All the polling shows that it has a Perot-like effect and massively splits independent/conservative support and wins democrats seats they otherwise lose.
This is a monumental groundsweel time for America, with so many of our fellow citizens really shaken out of their slumber with fear and anger on where let have let the left take us. This is time to harness the righteous anger and energy, not waste it with internecine bickering among ourselves. We must send such a resounding message to these dangerous progressives that they skulk back under their rocks in fear!
If we don't, only something much more drastic and destructive remains as the way to preserve the union and our way of life! None of us want to go that way because we remember what the last unpleasantness cost the nation some 148 years ago.
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 12/17/2009 19:13 Comments || Top||

#5  The problem NoMore is that the National Republican Party is right up there in bed with the progressives in most cases. ("We have to go along to get along" .... bullshit!) Just look at who they (1) nominated for President in 08.

(1) - That being the National Republican Party - being in a late-primary state I was not allowed to express my preference.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/17/2009 19:26 Comments || Top||

#6  We can have tea parties and tea party candidates, so to speak. IMCCEO (in my carefully considered engineer's opinion), it is important not to emphasize the political parties in a decision as to who to vote for. It is paramount to pick the individual who has the values that will make rational and ethical decisions as a representative. It is an end run around the existing parties.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 12/17/2009 19:27 Comments || Top||

#7  None of us want to go that way because we remember what the last unpleasantness cost the nation some 148 years ago.

Speak for yourself. You, may not want to go that way, but some of us have realized for some time now that that is the only way to go. The Giant slumbered for too long, only waking up at a point when the only thing that will succeed, is a massive slash and burn campaign. I view the Left same as I would Kudzu, and the solution is napalm.
Posted by: Pancho Glugum9430 || 12/17/2009 21:07 Comments || Top||


'This Is Their Hajj'
Posted by: tipper || 12/17/2009 11:08 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Tipper,

Some selections and the Post headline "Pelosi's Climate Air Farce" were borth excerpting:

WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leading a large delegation on at least two Air Force jets to Copenhagen for the climate summit -- where participants harshly condemn the use of jet airplanes for the high amounts of CO2 they emit.

"This may be the largest congressional delegation I have ever heard of," said a source at the 89th Air Wing stationed at Andrews Air Force Base of the trip to the UN summit, which is increasingly being criticized as a farce.

But Republicans on Capitol Hill and the 89th Air Wing source said Pelosi actually reserved five planes to carry a delegation that includes as many as 24 Democrats and six Republicans.

"Climate change is a religion for them, so there was no way they were going to miss this," said one top GOP aide. "This is their Hajj."

Rep. Charles Rangel (D-Harlem) was among those planning to go because of his duties as chairman of the House Ways & Means Committee, a staffer told The Post.

"We all know that Charlie Rangel is a big fan of subsidizing his vacation with taxpayer money, but the truly offensive aspect of this is Nancy Pelosi's decision to bring the corrupt Harlem Democrat along for the ride," said Republican spokesman Ken Spain.

The roundtrip cost to Copenhagen and back for the C-32A would cost taxpayers $160,000.

The 737 carries 26 passengers and costs about $7,500 per hour of flight time, bringing the costs of a Copenhagen jaunt to $120,000.

Posted by: Fliter Johnson9833 || 12/17/2009 11:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Does that mean they have to march around the conference center seven times before they go in?
Posted by: Mike || 12/17/2009 11:55 Comments || Top||

#3  They also have to throw stones at a statue of Dick Cheney.

Posted by: Frozen Al || 12/17/2009 12:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Does that mean they have to march around the conference center seven times before they go in?

Backwards, in a 'Duck Walk'.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 12/17/2009 16:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Would it be impolitic to wish for a hajj stampede?
Posted by: xbalanke || 12/17/2009 20:47 Comments || Top||


Landrieu A 'Yes' On Health Bill
Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., just told IBD she is ready to move to a final vote: "Barring any major changes (in the bill), I am ready to vote for cloture and ready to move on with the bill." On when the health care bill will be finished, she said, "We're hoping it will be before Christmas. It could be Christmas Eve, so you all better do your shopping. I've done mine."
Posted by: Fred || 12/17/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  you all better do your shopping. I've done mine.

The difference is, Precious, we don't have 300 mill of other peoples' money to spend. Some of us have to wait for one more paycheck to get goodies to bring home.

Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 12/17/2009 0:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Landrieu is a Whore. Bought and paid.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/17/2009 1:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Just one of many in Washington. The only difference with Landrieu was, she had the guts to admit it and provide the correct price.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/17/2009 6:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Makes one how these washington sluts sleep at night
Posted by: armyguy || 12/17/2009 7:37 Comments || Top||

#5  I am shocked, I tell you. Just plain shocked.

Next thing you will tell me is that there is gambling at Rick's.
Posted by: Kelly || 12/17/2009 7:59 Comments || Top||

#6  She sold out cheap. They were offering Nelson of Nebraska 500 billion in earmark credit.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 12/17/2009 11:20 Comments || Top||

#7  It seems the Republicans can sit back and enjoy the popcorn.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 12/17/2009 14:03 Comments || Top||


DeMint says parliamentarian was in the Democrats' back pocket
Senator Jim DeMint (R - S.C.) had no regrets with the GOP's strategy today, when Senator Tom Coburn (R - OK) asked for Senator Bernie Sanders (D - VT) seven hundred and sixty-seven page single payer health care amendment be read by the clerk. The reading of the amendment could have lasted until Saturday, but Senator Sanders put a stop to the reading of his massive amendment at almost three 'o clock this afternoon, but it seems as if an unprecedented parliamentary procedure may have been broken in the process.

When Mr. Sanders called to withdraw his amendment during the clerk's reading, Mr. Coburn objected, but the parliamentarian recognized Mr. Sanders nonetheless and ignored Mr. Coburn.

According to Senate procedures, "Under Rule 15, paragraph 1, and Senate precedents, an amendment shall be read by the clerk before it is up for consideration or before the same shall be debated unless a request to waive the reading is granted".

It continues, 'the reading of which may not be dispensed with, except by unanimous consent, and if the request is denied, the amendment must be read and further interruptions are not in order.'

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's (R - KY) office sent out a statement saying,:
"You may have heard that the majority cites an example in 1992 where the chair made a mistake and allowed something similar to happen. But one mistake does not a precedent make.

For example, there is precedent for a Senator being beaten with a cane here in the Senate. If mistakes were the rule, the caning of Senators would be in order. Fortunately for all of us, it is not."
Senator DeMint told the Washington Times about the GOP's motivation to start using this type of parliamentary strategy has more to do with no longer being able to work with the Democrats in good faith. The Senator from South Carolina also points out that the parliamentarian was "clearly bias." if not in the Democrats' "back pocket" in allowing the interruption of the amendment's reading.:
"The lines between the parties have gotten very clear over the last few months and its not just health care, climate change, the financial takeover, its card check. It's this very liberal agenda that has ordinary Americans engaged and angry. We see wide swings in the polls with not just Republicans but with Independents and Democrats, and so I think its really important for Republicans to have a lot of clarity in what we say. We don't want to be obstructionists on any policy they're willing to deal with fairly, but no one can say that this is a fair process, when they basically have a parliamentarian in their back pocket."

"The problem we have, I think if you look at the last couple of weeks, we were working in good faith and the strategy they were using was one of bait switch. While we were debating a decoy on the floor, while they were developing another one in secret, so to continue to play along with this as if it's a legitimate process makes no sense. So the strategy now has to be we make sure we slow things down enough that we can actually have a chance to find out what's in this final bill, and they're trying to push it up against Christmas, so they can pass it when nobody is paying attention, but what we have to do is push it past Christmas, so people know what's happening. It's a waste of time to work with people in good faith who don't even have the real bill on the floor."
Senators Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and Robert Menendez (D -NJ) both accused the GOP for holding up defense appropriations and unemployment benefits by having the clerk read Mr. Sanders's amendment today. Mr. Menendez compared the GOP's tactics today to that of Ebenezer Scrooge.
Posted by: Fred || 12/17/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Democrats, they are thugs. The deserve to be hung for treason.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/17/2009 1:18 Comments || Top||

#2  the caning of Senators would be in order.

I have a dream: government where authority is indissolubly linked with accountability
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/17/2009 5:34 Comments || Top||

#3  This won't work with all 2,074 pages of the health care bill. Any idea how long that will take to read?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/17/2009 7:10 Comments || Top||

#4  If Coburn and DeMint have the courage we'll find out ...
Posted by: Steve White || 12/17/2009 9:40 Comments || Top||

#5  how long will these types of shenanigans go on until someone shoots on Ft Sumpter?
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 12/17/2009 9:44 Comments || Top||

#6  Not sure Broadhead6, but I'm beginning to gain a new appreciation for how it happened the first time.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/17/2009 10:23 Comments || Top||

#7  I think right now would be a good time for some massive tea parties in front of each and every senator's office. I don't have the time or the organizational skills to get it started but I'd certainly like to participate. I'm mad as hell.

Last night on ABC news they showed Bernie Sanders ranting about how the Republicans were be obstructionist. I embarrassed myself by shouting back at the TV "MAYBE THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS IN THOSE 700 PAGES, @$$#*!&!!!" Well, maybe I shouldn't drink while I'm watching the news but it's a good question isn't it? I mean, what, exactly, is in those 700 pages? Do you really expect senators to vote on it without knowing?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 12/17/2009 11:58 Comments || Top||

#8  This guy is a stark, raving lunatic.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 12/17/2009 12:10 Comments || Top||

#9  If they pass this thing with the abortion funding in it as-is, many will be compelled to choose between acquiescing to their coercion to pay for abortions and thus damning themselves, or risking possible jailing when they refuse to let the government take thier money which will be used to deliberately destroy defenseless innocent human lives by the millions.

The government of the United States will have made itself into an agency of unspeakable evil, and will be forcing people of conscience to submit at the point of a gun and a prison sentence, or else lose their liberty and risk death in order to maintain their faith.

In short, the government of the United States will have become an oppressor, an enemy to a large segment of its own populace, no less than the Soviet Union was (at least when it comes to conscientious objections).

Personally, I will not support uphold or defend the US Government's evil actions. My fear is they by staying true to my faith I will lose my liberty, risking imprisonment as a matter of conscience at the hands of these evil people. But imprisonment will not cost my my eternal soul as would the violence against my fellow citizens or my acquiescence to materially aiding a mortal sin: the systematic and widespread destruction of millions of defenseless innocent human lives for mere convenience, and unmistakably for profit and power by Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry.

Do you see what they are doing? DO you see them ramming this down our throats? Do you care?

You should. I love this country too much to advocate the violent overthrow, and will I NOT tolerate those who do so, unless the day comes where we tread even further down the path of Nazi Germany and the Communist regimes and restrict basic liberties. But there are those will will, unlike me, choose violent means, and take direct actions on those who push this agenda of evil.

God help us all - the idiots in Washington and their leftist cohorts are starting a civil war, a shooting war, with this action. They will spawn a thousand Eric Rudolphs.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/17/2009 17:08 Comments || Top||

#10  Right on, OldSpook. You are absolutely right.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 12/17/2009 19:15 Comments || Top||

#11  I don't know about the thousand Eric Rudolphs, OS, but they will spawn a massive amount of civil disobedience the likes of which the country has never seen. (I'd be willing to skip coverage for the same reasons you mention, but I worry about my kids and who would care for them. I don't have an alternative caregiver that would be suitable right now. That would be the only reason I would continue it if this passes, and I hope heaven would forgive me for a while.)

Not only that, they don't get that this kind of coercive crap is something that immigrants to our shores came here to avoid. I'm not talking about the illegals picking lettuce or working in the slaughterhouses, I'm talking about ones with options who could go to lots of different places and get handsomely rewarded because of their skills.

Funny enough....some of them are....get this, doctors and nurses. Hmm. Ya think some of them might start going back home...or to somewhere else that would appreciate their skills? But I'm sure that will be addressed in a future "Just Try to Go Home When We Need Your Skills Here" bill, coming right up.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 12/17/2009 19:31 Comments || Top||

#12  Well said OldSpook.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/17/2009 21:12 Comments || Top||

#13  Democrats, they are thugs. The deserve to be hung hanged for treason.

For all you know, they might already be hung! ;-)
Posted by: Pancho Glugum9430 || 12/17/2009 21:13 Comments || Top||

#14  hung...erm, maybe? but in need of ball retrieval surgery? And those dems balls seems to be losing their bounce.
Posted by: GirlThursday || 12/17/2009 21:35 Comments || Top||


Nancy Pelosi in 'campaign mode'
Speaker Nancy Pelosi predicted Wednesday that job creation and deficit reduction will be the central Democratic themes for the coming year -- and that public support for health care reform will rebound once a bill has been sent to President Barack Obama.

On the divisive issue of Afghanistan, the California Democrat ducked the question of how she would vote on increased war funding: "Let's see what they request," she said. But she has urged her party, including old allies on the anti-war left, to listen and give some "room" to Obama, recognizing that the president had been "dealt a very bad hand because there was no plan in Afghanistan for years."

Pelosi made her comments at a year-end roundtable with reporters where she described herself as back in full "campaign mode" and confident House Democrats will retain "a strong majority" after the 2010 elections.

"He didn't give me 72 hours notice," she joked of Rep. Brian Baird's surprise decision to not seek re-election in his swing district in Washington state. But Pelosi said her rule of politics was "don't assume anything" and she wasn't panicked by the recent spate of retirements in her ranks.

In the case of health care reform, Pelosi credited House Democrats with having saved Obama's initiative after the onslaught of attacks during the August recess. And if the Senate can complete its bill this month, she will work to try to send a House-Senate compromise to the White House before the State of the Union.

"They will pass a bill and we will have a bill," the speaker said, and once that happens, she predicted the focus will shift away from the differences among Democrats and more on what is in the package itself.

"We are in a define-or-be-defined occupation," she said, and her adversaries have had the advantage of picking out single issues, such as abortion or the public option, to characterize the whole.
Posted by: || 12/17/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "We are in a define-or-be-defined occupation," she said, and her adversaries have had the advantage of picking out single issues, such as abortion or the public option, to characterize the whole.

You are defined as holes nanc
Posted by: armyguy || 12/17/2009 9:33 Comments || Top||

#2  "We are in a define-or-be-defined occupation,"

Let me help you, Nancy. You are a lying, socialist, anti-American who would have been thrown out of office and imprisoned for treason by the Founding Fathers.
Posted by: anymouse || 12/17/2009 15:19 Comments || Top||


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Obama Stalling, Not Giving Congress Ft Hood Informatiion
(CNSNews.com) - Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.), ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, says the Obama administration is stalling in providing information to the leaders of the House and Senate and the congressional intelligence committees on the multiple murders allegedly committed by a radical Muslim Army officer at Fort Hood more than a month ago.

“You know, they’re playing out the string,” Hoekstra said Thursday. “We’re going home next week, (and) they will have effectively made it through three months with giving no substantive briefings on Fort Hood.”
Posted by: Chunky Phaving7818 || 12/17/2009 00:53 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  People throw rocks at a chancellor's house and next day the governor calls it terrorism...but this, this human caused not-joy-joy action, this will take a while.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/17/2009 14:23 Comments || Top||


Science
Best Comment EVER Re: Global Warming - Gore's Gone to Hell - Texas Governor
"I certainly got religion," Perry said. "I think he's gone to hell." That drew big laughs from the construction types gathered for Perry's appearance.
Posted by: Chunky Phaving7818 || 12/17/2009 01:03 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Makes sense, I recall reading that the Vikings hell was frozen and therefore unlivable.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 12/17/2009 18:51 Comments || Top||



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