"Arizona is asking the Supreme Court to allow the state to begin enforcing measures that have been blocked by lower courts at the administration's request.
Among those provisions is one that requires police, while enforcing other laws, to question a person's immigration status if officers suspect he is in the country illegally.
Similar laws in Alabama, South Carolina and Utah also are facing Obama administration lawsuits.
The Justice Department says regulating immigration is the job of the federal government, not states."
This argument fails on its face for the simple reason that the federal government has the authority to regulate immigration across America's international borders. Once illegal aliens are in the United States, though the federal government may directly arrest them, they are only under federal jurisdiction for immigration offenses and other federal laws.
To say otherwise is to assert that illegal immigrants living in the United States are entirely under federal jurisdiction in such a way that state and local laws do not apply to them, so they can violate such laws with impunity.
To restrain police from inquiring about citizenship status deprives them and lower courts the ability to determine if a crime has been committed, if a suspect is a flight risk, or if they are involved in some other criminal enterprises such as drug and illegal alien smuggling.
Importantly, once local and state authorities have determined that a suspect is indeed an illegal alien, once they have finished with him for their purposes, including arrest and criminal sentencing if applicable, they have shown no hesitation it providing such persons to federal jurisdiction for immigration purposes.
Finally, the states are in no way violating the "privileges or immunities" clause of the 1st article of the 14th Amendment, as their inquiries are legitimate questions under the probable cause rules used by the police.
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Bank Robbery is also a Federal crime. Should local law officers not arrest and detain a bank robber? Holder's a joke and his DOJ needs to be torn down to the ground and rebuilt.
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The good news is Elena Kagan has recused herself from this case.
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Kagan recused herself from the decision on whether to take the case. She has not yet recused herself from the consideration of the case when brought.
[Dawn] JUST how grim is the state of the US-Pakistain relationship was made clear by comments from America`s highest-ranking military officer in Washington on Friday. In the words of US Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen Martin Dempsey, the relationship is "a mess". His words were blunt, but should come as no surprise. The Pakistain military is clearly convinced that its soldiers were intentionally attacked, a stance Gen Dempsey called "incomprehensible". The head of Pakistain`s military operations, in briefings to politicians on Thursday, apparently made no bones about this belief that the NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Originally it was a mutual defense pact directed against an expansionist Soviet Union. In later years it evolved into a mechanism for picking the American pocket while criticizing the cut of the American pants... strike was deliberate and perhaps even pre-planned. Theoretically such an idea would imply the end of any alliance there may have been. Although a move that extreme is unlikely to take place, Gen Dempsey`s Leavenworth classmate Gen Kayani ... four star general, current Chief of Army Staff of the Mighty Pak Army. Kayani is the former Director General of ISI... has deployed air defence weapons along the Pak-Afghan border, authorised troops to defend themselves without waiting for official go-ahead and recalled border coordination personnel, apparently for consultations. So calling it a "mess" would not be an inaccurate way to describe this increasingly dysfunctional military relationship.
But while the militaries continue to talk at each other, the governments finally seem to be talking to each other. After its initial uproar, the Pak administration appears to have decided it is time to dial the tension down a notch. Reports emerging from Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar`s meeting with the American ambassador indicate that the Pakistain government has signalled a desire to move on from the incident, even if that involves reshaping the terms of cooperation. And while there was some tough talk from the prime minister during his meeting with Gen Kayani on Friday, in recent days he too has toned down his rhetoric and acknowledged the reality that the relationship is an important one.
Probably deliberately rather than through lack of coordination, the army continues to take a different approach. Initially the two militaries did need to adopt aggressive postures to maintain troop morale and protect their national security credentials. But the price of continued lack of cooperation or a breakdown of border coordination is too high. The American investigation should be sped up -- as Ambassador Munter has indicated -- and Pakistain needs to cooperate with it. There are risks to doing so, of course; it will be difficult for the administration to defend an outcome that might be unpopular with the public. But by leaving itself out of both the Bonn conference and the investigation, Pakistain is missing out on opportunities to clarify the terms of future cooperation and to shape outcomes along the border and next door in Afghanistan. Even if the line taken is a tough one, it is time to start talking.
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And now cometh IRAN ...
* WORLD NEWS > IRAN COMPLAINS TO AFGHANISTAN ABOUT US DRONE, i.e. allowing the US to use Afghan = aka Muslim territory for covert drone missions oer Muslim Iran.
[Dawn] THE death of three Rangers in the terrorist attack in Bloody Karachi on Friday indicates the presence of Al Qaeda or its deadly affiliates in the nation`s biggest city as well as the bad boys` success in developing new and sophisticated killing techniques. While the police are not yet sure whether the Safoora Chowrangi forces of Evil belonged to Jundullah -- not to be confused with the Iranian Baloch group -- they say there is a pattern to how the bad boy organization has of late been striking in Bloody Karachi. There was no jacket wallah in the Friday morning attack; it was a uni-directional improvised bomb which killed the Rangers in what is reportedly the eighth attack of its nature in Bloody Karachi. Previously too, Jundullah used this technique with deadly effect in attacks on navy buses in Bloody Karachi. On Friday, the forces of Evil had chosen their target after carefully observing how, where and when the Rangers parked their van. The killers placed the IED near a garbage dump to camouflage it. Even though the van was parked a little away from the usual place, the IED, laced with nails and bolts, blew up in the direction of the vehicle and killed or injured the Rangers.
That the security agencies have had some progress in going after Al Qaeda is evident from the acknowledgment by the Global Islamic Media Front, a jihadist website, that Moeed Abd al-Salam, the man killed in a raid by Pakistain Rangers on a hideout in Gulistan-i-Jauhar in November, was one of its founders. Friday`s murders could be a retaliatory response. Al Qaeda and its various affiliate groups have often used Bloody Karachi as a base. The authorities` failure to penetrate these sleeper cells has enabled Al Qaeda, whose leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri ... Second in command of al-Qaeda, occasionally described as the real brains of the outfit. Formerly the Mister Big of Egyptian Islamic Jihad. Bumped off Abdullah Azzam with a car boom in the course of one of their little disputes. Is thought to have composed bin Laden's fatwa entitled World Islamic Front Against Jews and Crusaders. Currently residing in the North Wazoo area. That is not a horn growing from the middle of his forehead, but a prayer bump, attesting to how devout he is... , has declared war on Pakistain, to carry out well-planned and daring raids on military targets with telling effect. The audacious raid on PNS Mehran last May would not have been possible without, one, cooperation from sympathisers within the security establishment and, two, an undercover system of training, funding and planning operations. It is this well-organised clandestine structure that needs to be unearthed and destroyed.
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See also TOPIX > DURBAN DEAL WILL NOT AVERT CATASTROPHIC CLIMATE CHANGE, SAY SCIENTISTS.
As per #6, once again again again mainstream Americans = Amerikans, of the OWG Mighty USSA versus OWG Weak USRoA Global SSR that none of same has yet voted for nor been asked to nor planned to, etc. have to depend on the Russians to tell or say, etc. what our own mighty Fed Agencies = US Representative Democracy won't.
[MIGHTY OWG SPACE DEFENSE, COMET APOPHIS, + YEAR 2030 GUAM/EARTH-OBSERVED MOON EXPLOSIONS here].
D *** NG IT, DID 1960's = 1980's MTV WHITNEY HUSTON SAVE OSAMA FROM SEAL TEAM SIX - I THINK NOT!
1960's WHITNEY'S "LETS DANCE" VERSUS MADONNA'S "OPEN YOUR HEART".
h/t Instapundit
Palestinian national identity as it currently is recognized was a reaction to the creation of Israel and most prominently the 1967 war when Israel captured territory controlled by Egypt and Jordan. Newt Gingrich is under fire for stating this truth.
It doesn't really change the equation on the ground, and there is an inexorable march towards Palestinians having a state in some portion of that former Egyptian and Jordanian territory, the questions being boundaries and militarization. Don't be so sure. Right now, we are having one of these periodic visits from the Gods of the Copybook Headings---I wouldn't bet on any, currently existing Arab country, surviving it.
The importance of Gingrich's comment was that it skewered a false historical narrative which dominates the international debate and is used for the demonization of Israel and its chief supporter, the United States. Regardless of how the 'Palestinian' came to be, he's there now and you have to deal with him. JDAM the ones with rockets and guns -- what do you do with the rest?
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p.s. Actually we (Israel) are not going to do anything to them you ("Da West") are going to starve them (and most their relatives) to death because you can no longer afford to feed them.
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By pointing out a glaring misconception about historical facts by the general public, Gingrich has thrown an angry bobcat into the pit bull ring.
However, it must also be seen in context to American politics. The Democrat's antisemitism has overcome their political expediency so much that they have been telling the Jews what they really think of them.
They could do this to black Americans, because they are foolish enough to be monolithic in their vote, no matter what. But Jews are both more thoughtful, and their contribution is not just a tiny voting bloc (5.2m), but monetary.
By Newt so lovingly embracing Israel, it may not persuade Jews to vote for him, but it might persuade them to not open their checkbook to the Democrats, either, which is worth far more votes in the long run.
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'moose, the vagon before the horse.
O & Co open "anti-zionism" is because they know they lost the Jews.
The change in American Jews affiliations is not connected to O's Middle East policies. It's his effect on economy---Jews know who'll be blamed if economy goes belly up.
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While I am against Newt's illegal immigrant stance, I like his blunt honesty and willingness to take the heat. With Palin not running and Cain out of the picture, he's starting to look like the least worst candidate: Better a man who'll tell us the truths that we don't like to hear than having a Liar in Chief.
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g(r)omgoru: I would call it an open question, as I imagine if you asked about falling support of Democrats by Jews in the coffee klatch after a synagogue service, you would get one heck of an argument going.
I knew a young Orthodox Jewish man who got great enjoyment dropping such questions, then quickly backed out to watch the fight. He said it was like dropping the puck at a hockey game.
You are vastly underestimating the staying power of the Roosevelt/left economic myth. Many Jews believe in it. Many find this myth their 'comfort zone'.
These people were fed the leftist economic history for decades and its not easy for them to recover from it. Besides a lot of these people get 98% of their ideas from network TV so these myths are constantly reinforced.
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We've got some big brains on Rantburg. Does anybody have a serious idea of an end game with the Palestinian Arabs? One that doesn't depend on displacing entire populations or genocide?
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In 1948, the Jews decided to head home and take their land back. While this was happening, many of the land owners in Israel fled. Many were paid for their land and others were allowed to stay.
The Arabs in turn open the prisons and sent those guys to fight Israel. Eventually, these thugs were offered their own homeland. Jordan IS the Palestinian state. Though some thugs were not allowed to even settle there as they were nasty.
The Arabs would not take those nasty thugs back so they were put in a concentration camp which was deftly named "Palestine".
The true meaning of Palestine was a cuss word coined by the Romans meaning ones who lost their homeland.
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An interesting article on the 1948 war from the Arab point of view, showing the dirty deeds, back stabbing, treachery and civil war on the Arab side while they were trying to fight Israel.
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Does anybody have a serious idea of an end game with the Palestinian Arabs? One that doesn't depend on displacing entire populations or genocide?
Seems there was an old song we used to sing in Sunday school, of all places, about how "Joshua fit the battle of Jericho". Go back and read your Old Testament for clues about what may be in store for the Philistines, er, I mean the Palestinians. They could get smote, especially if they try to make trouble for the Juice while the Juice are trying to deal with Iran and/or the Hezbullies. Look for the IDF to do what is most expedient in a case like that.
It is indeed amazing how few people in this country have even the foggiest notion of history. Then some guy like Newt comes along and confuses them with facts.
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We've got some big brains on Rantburg. Does anybody have a serious idea of an end game with the Palestinian Arabs? One that doesn't depend on displacing entire populations or genocide?
This may seem bird-brained but convert them! Billy Graham's org was one of the very few allowed into closed NK and even aid workers in Afghanistan, etc. are generally respected. Old Testament prophecy indicates about 1/3 of the Egyptians and Assyrians convert to the Judeo-Christian world view in the Last Days and the rest are smitten by God or at least have no rain or food unless they worship the God of Israel....evangelical Chinese Christians have decided to target the Muslim world as they can go where others cannot. They are pouring into Africa, Afghanistan & the ME, and Latin America, while the Chinese people seem to love Americans, eager to learn English and adopt western ideas. Cross-cultural immigration can be one of America's beggest exports! See Isaiah 41, Zephaniah 2-3, Joel 3, and Zechariah 14 for a few of these as yet unfulfilled prophecies. The sword of Islam gets smitten but they put up a bloody battle first--but the forces of good wins out in the end;)
We've got some big brains on Rantburg. Does anybody have a serious idea of an end game with the Palestinian Arabs? One that doesn't depend on displacing entire populations or genocide?
Egypt and Jordan take their own citizens back and deal with them.
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My end game w Paleos works like this:
- they get offered part of E Jerusalem in deal
- deal begins to look like it might go through
- many E. Jerusamlite Paleos try to buy their way in to Israel to avoid being in Paleostan
- deal begins to change
- while this is going on, the Islamists in egypt become unpopular because the economy has become even worse than it is now and the Iran govt falls, egypt tries to pump up tourism but tourism industry on red sea gets attacked by Gazans
- Israel develops method to extract oil from their shale kerogen, various efficiencies (to cars, lighting, etc.) reduce consumption of oil slightly in the developed world, one of the nuclear or thermonuclear reactor designs passes key technical barrier
- Saudis reduce subsidies of various terror support groups
- meanwhile in Bangladesh, hundreds of thousands of Ahmadis are murdered by Sunnis and in Iraq the Shiite start killing Sunnis big time and Hamas and the Islamic Jihad start killing each other
- a group of high ranking imans abandons Islam in a world publicized event
- paleos on the west bank, decides to take a deal similar to the ones offered them since 1999 while Egpyt takes control of Gaza to avoid Gazans doing more damage to their Red Sea tourism
Its not much more difficult than hitting a 7-10 split 5 frames in a row and then making 4 double reverse bank shots
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nix offering East Jerusalem. Nonstarter
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Made it in. I can be somewhat critical though, as the author implied that all resistance is equal, and all was against the Dutch, when this is not the case.
For most of the colonial period, Dutch control over the archipelago was tenuous outside of coastal strongholds; only in the early 20th century did Dutch dominance extend to what was to become Indonesia's current boundaries.
One of the biggest complaints about colonialism is that it rarely tolerated internal ethnic and religious squabbles between peoples. The Dutch interest was in unity, peace and commerce. They had that weird European idea that the various peoples should be treated more or less equally.
And thus, I imagine, most of the revolts were from groups that opposed unity, peace, commerce, and more or less equality; or who saw themselves getting the short end of the stick because either there was little of value where they lived, or they were not particularly industrious.
But the acid test for colonialism is twofold. The first is how long a place was a colony, and how far it advanced during that time; and the second is how the former colony behaves after the colonialists leave.
Both matter as far as how the colonialists are remembered. For example, when the French ruled a place, they were often cruel, greedy and downright vicious, solely there for the purposes of exploitation. The result is places like Haiti.
But when the French occupied for just a short time, they are remembered much more fondly, such as in Mexico, where there are still traces of Francophilism.
The British, on the other hand, were firm believers in the British way of doing business. India probably only exists today in its current form because of the British bureaucratic example, and such godsends as the Common Law legal system.
(Now granted, even Common Law only works where the people are generally orderly. Pakistan is also a Common Law-Sharia country, and it is anything but.)
Finally, the departure of the Dutch was not caused by a popular revolt, but by the Japanese invasion in WWII, that killed some 4 million Indonesians.
After their defeat, the Dutch tried moving back in, but were no longer wanted and didn't have the resources to force their way back, so they bowed out.
Sukarno took charge, and also had to deal with revolts, the worst of which was the attempt at a communist overthrow, which he utterly crushed. But it weakened him enough for Suharto to take over.
Culturally, to this day, the Dutch and Indonesians are still on pretty friendly terms, and both relish the cuisine delicacies and culture of the other.
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As per various Mil Bloggers-Netters, WATCHING INDONESIA + SE ASIA JIHAD [Philippines] is the real reason why the US wants Marines in AUS, notsomuch agz Rising China versies ASEAN in the SCS.
Lest we fergit, AUS SECURITY > why the US + UK historically had + have the [American + Western] SAMOAS.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
Zawahiri
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