MAZAR-I-SHARIF, Afghanistan - More than a dozen people were killed and more than 30 wounded in Afghanistan on Monday when police opened fire to break up a violent protest against a provincial governor, witnesses and a doctor said.
More than 1,000 people were protesting to demand the removal of Juma Khan Hamdard, governor of the northern province of Jowzjan, and were throwing stones at several government offices in Shiberghan, the provincial capital, witnesses said. Police fired to stop the protesters from raiding the compounds, they said.
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"Afghan Cops Gun Down Rioters" -- that's better.
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I've often thought that we should do that at least once here in the US. It certainly raises the stakes, and would probably reduce the participation of the faint of heart. Government by mob has no place in our Republic.
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Don't hear much about activists taking over the Kent administration building.
Rwandan combatants attacked a village in eastern Congo on Sunday, killing 17 people, wounding 28 others and taking as many as a dozen people hostage. The attackers carrying machetes, spears and hammers descended on the village of Kanyola in the middle of the night, Constantin Charondagwa said by telephone from Bukavu, about 50 kilometers (30 miles) from Kanyola.
Charondagwa said he had visited Kanyola and interviewed people who escaped the attack.
"The combatants belong to the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda, as well as to other armed Rwandan groups. They came from nearby and attacked the village of Kanyola in the middle of the night," Charondagwa said from Bukavu, where his office coordinates work by several local human rights groups.
I was present today when an Iraqi General was arrested on suspicion of murder and other crimes. The American commander, LTC Doug Crissman, narrowly averted a possible bloodbath today when he intervened, without orders from above, and arrested the General. The General was with 14 heavily armed men. I was a few feet away and snapped a photo of Crissman and the Iraqi General only seconds before Crissman silently grabbed the General's pistol out of his holster. Crissman's men had silently disarmed the other 14 men who were all around the building. The General was clueless. Incredible, and brilliantly executed by LTC Crissman. More in a couple of days. (I got it all on video/photo.)
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Now if Maliki or Mookie don't insist he be released immediately, we might be on to something here.
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Al-Maliki ought to be the next one into irons. This whole charade is rapidly spiraling into a laughingstock.
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Al-Maliki ought to be the next one into irons. This whole charade is rapidly spiraling into a laughingstock.
Word, WE. Sadly, due to ridiculous constraints placed upon our troops, this is a laughingstock we must currently endure. Let Iraq be the last of such nonsense. America must declare the era of nation building to be over once and for all time. From now on it is a matter of military intervention with little or no boots on the ground. We must smash our enemies unrepentantly and just as heartlessly force them to pick up the pieces on their own.
So long as Muslim majority nations seek to do America harm, it is our obligation to dismantle their tyrannical governments at every turn. Remember, TYRANNIES HAVE NO SOVEREIGN RIGHTS. There is no respect due to fascists like Assad, Mugabe, Ahmadinejad and their ilk. They deserve nothing more than the noose or a bullet to the brain.
Much the same goes for Islam. This violent political ideology must be catastrophically disassembled through killing its upper eschalons of clerical aristocracy. Certain infrastructure such as al-Hazar University and other indoctrination centers may well require demolition as well. Finally, as a last resort, punative measures such as the destruction of Qom, Medina or Mecca might be needed too.
We must gradually escalate up through these measures making sure to let each tier of them work its effect. There must be no undue haste, BUT THERE MUST BE IMMEDIATE PROGRESS. This is not happening and there await horrible consequences for such inaction. The sooner we begin to eradicate the tyrants and jihadists, the fewer lives that will be lost to the grim final alternative of nuclear holocaust.
Hattip Instapundit. Here's a taste -- go read the whole thing. Nb: italics and boldface are the author's, not mine.
"In fact, there is a civil war in progress in Iraq, one comparable in important respects to other civil wars that have occurred in postcolonial states with weak institutions. Those cases suggest that the Bush administration's political objective in Iraq--creating a stable, peaceful, somewhat democratic regime that can survive the departure of U.S. troops--is unrealistic." Professor James D. Fearon, writing in the March/April edition of Foreign Affairs.
There is one problem with Professor Fearon's thesis--the facts on the ground that I am seeing right now and that he has not seen in person or not seen recently.
A major part of Fearon's well reasoned argument is that U.S. support for the Maliki government, "encourages Sunni nationalists to turn to al Qaeda in Iraq for support against Shiite militias and the Iraqi army."
His argument is logical and would be correct if the Sunnis of Anbar cooperated with his argument--but they are not cooperating with the good professor's thesis. In fact, they are doing just the opposite. The Sunnis of Anbar are now siding with the coalition and fighting Al Qaeda.
In Khalidiyah, the SAA had taken control of security for their own villages under the supervision of the Habbaniyah police and under the watchful eye of the Marines.
The awakening started in Ramadi and has now spread to Hit, Haditha and points west to the West bank of the Euphrates just north of Fallujah and then to the south near Amariyah/Ferris.
The tribes along the west bank are all tied into each other and some of the sub-tribes who have not joined the awakening are finding themselves in armed intra-tribal conflict.
The awakening has now spontaneously leapt the Euphrates and taken hold in an unlikely area--al Kharmah.
COP TOWN
The village of Shiabi, located south-west of Kharmah, below the Kharma river is home to more than a dozen IP officers who work in Fallujah.
In November and December of 2006, as the Iraqi Army let the situation deteriorate in Kharma, AQIZ went on blood spree, kidnapping, torturing and beheading police officers.
It was about this time that General Sadoon, a retired Iraqi Air Force general who lived in Fallujah but whose home village is Shiabi and who is also the grandson of the true Sheik of the Jumayli tribe, organized the men of the village.
The Fallujah IPs gave them rifles, walkie talkies and ammunition.
The General put the men in fighting positions around the village and set up two check points.
Word spread quickly about the village that was standing up to Al Qaeda. Representatives from the Islamic State of Iraq met with the General to try to convince him to change his ways or scare him off.
"I met with them in December," the General said, his eyes hidden by Ray Ban sunglasses, a duty belt around his waist with radios clipped to it.
Al Qaeda told the police officers of Shihabi and General Sadoon to support Al Qaeda and undermine the IP and the coalition or face the consequences.
The police officers and Sadoon decided to face the consequences and fortified their village.
"They had no future," the General said, "All that Al Qaeda has to offer is death. So I told them I will oppose them and from then on, it has been war."
WASHINGTON, May 28 Every night in Iraq, American Special Operations forces carry out as many as a dozen raids aimed at terrorist leaders allied with Al Qaeda, other insurgent fighters and militia targets. Their after-action reports are the first thing that Gen. David H. Petraeus, the senior American commander in Baghdad, reads the next day.
The missions also are closely watched by senior policy makers in Washington, who differ on whether the small number of elite units should focus on capturing and killing leaders of the group that calls itself Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia and foreign fighters in Iraq, or whether the greater threat comes from the Sunni- and Shiite-based insurgency.
In the shadows of the troop increase ordered by President Bush, Special Operations forces conduct between 6 and 12 missions every night across the country. A vast majority between 80 percent and 90 percent are aimed at Qaeda-allied targets, while the rest attack other extremist elements, say senior military officers in Baghdad and Pentagon officials.
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In his recent speeches, at least, Mr. Bush has said Al Qaeda remains public enemy No. 1.
With all due respect, BULLSHIT, Mister President.
The Saudis are our biggest enemy. As 'moose so sagaciously noted, Iran actually tops our Christmas list for immediate action. Toppling Islamic theocracy is Job #1. It must be quashed at every turn and given no quarter.
Halting all travel from Muslim majority nations and entry by Muslims in general along with instituting reverse immigration looms as the single most important issue in countering international terrorism against the West. Combining the above measures with secured borders is some of the only sure protection we have at present.
As to the article, there can be no debate over hunting down jihad's major players. They are not just targets of value but also represent principal levers in tilting the odds against Islam. The same goes for Islam's clerical aristocracy.
Gunmen wearing police uniforms kidnapped at least three Western lecturers and several of their bodyguards from a Finance Ministry building in central Baghdad on Tuesday, a witness told Reuters. Police identified the lecturers as German and said up to four were seized when gunmen entered the ministry building. The lecturers had been advising ministry personnel on organising electronic contracts, said the witness, who did not want to be identified.
The gunmen entered the lecture room led by a man wearing a police major's uniform. "Where are the foreigners, where are the foreigners?", the gunmen shouted, according to the witness who was in the conference room. Police said about 40 gunmen sealed off streets around the three-storey computer science building belonging to the ministry before they went inside.
At least 23 people were killed and 68 wounded when a bomb planted in a parked minibus exploded in a busy commercial area in central Baghdad, police said. The blast was near a major intersection in Tayaran Square, an area filled with markets where day labourers, usually poor Shi'ites, queue for work.
At least 15 people were killed and 36 wounded in another car bomb attack in Baghdad's south-western Amil district, police said. Twenty-five people were killed in a similar attack a week ago in Amil, a Shi'ite district repeatedly targeted in attacks blamed on Sunni Islamist al Qaeda.
A suicide car bomber struck a busy commercial district in central Baghdad on Monday, killing at least 21 people and damaging a Sunni shrine, police and hospital officials said. The bomb went off at 2 p.m. in the Sinak commercial district on the east side of the Tigris River near the Abdul-Qadir al-Gailani mosque.
AP Television News video showed dozens of astonished people at the scene of the Sinak explosion as they walked around charred cars and debris that littered the scene. Firefighters in yellow helmets struggled to extinguish the fire as ambulances rushed to evacuate the wounded. The cleric in charge of the mosque, Mahmoud al-Issawi, said the blast also damaged the building's dome, while the footage showed damage to its minaret.
"The enemies of Iraq are the only one who get benefit out of that bombing. These enemies have targeted our homeland, religion and our brotherhood," al-Issawi told Iraqiya TV.
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A suicide car bomber struck a busy commercial district in central Baghdad on Monday, killing at least 21 people and damaging a Sunni shrine, police and hospital officials said.
Payback's a bitch. Heck, if weren't for the threat of terrorists, I'd have had us leave the country and let the shias obliterate the Sunnis.
A seven-year hunt came to an end on Monday when an elite Border Police unit nabbed a senior commander of Fatah's Al Aksa Martyrs Brigades in Ramallah who is held responsible by Israel for the deaths of numerous Israelis. Security officials said that Khaled Shawish, head of the Tanzim terror group in Ramallah, was behind the shooting attack that killed Rabbi Binyamin Ze'ev Kahane, son of Rabbi Meir Kahane, and his wife Talia in December 2002.
Shawish is also held responsible for dozens of additional attacks, including suicide bombings in Jerusalem as well as other shooting attacks on roads in the area that left a total of eight Israelis dead and dozens wounded. In March 2002, Shawish dispatched a suicide bomber who detonated his explosives on King George Street in Jerusalem, killing three people and wounding 35. In February 2002 he dispatched a suicide bomber who wounded two people.
Officials said that Shawish, 36, had been wanted by the IDF since 2000 and had spent most of his time in hiding near the Mukata, the Palestinian Authority government compound in Ramallah. In 2001, Shawish was severely wounded during clashes with the IDF and even though he survived remained disabled. Security officials said that Shawish was a dominant force within the Palestinian terror infrastructure and added that his arrest was a success for the IDF and the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency). They said that the Tanzim leader was also an expert bomb maker who taught terror operatives how to manufacture explosives as well as explosive suicide belts and how to lay roadside bombs.
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There was a bit more to this story posted on Worldnetdaily.
Link Terror leader arrested having car sex near Arafat's grave
According to Israeli security officials and Palestinian sources in Ramallah speaking to WND, the terrorist was arrested while having car sex just a few hundred feet from late PLO leader Yasser Arafat's gravesite.
Khaled Shawish, an officer in Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Force 17 presidential guards, was captured by undercover Israeli police forces following scores of shooting attacks he is suspected of carrying out. Shawish, who doubles as the Ramallah chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group, previously boasted of involvement in a West Bank shooting attack in December 2000 that killed Israeli ultranationalist leader Benjamin Kahane and Kahane's wife, Talya.
The Brigades is the declared "military wing" of Abbas' Fatah party.
After the Kahane murder, Shawish was extended refuge by Arafat to live in the late PLO leader's Ramallah compound, widely known as the Muqata. Arafat is buried at the entrance to the Muqata.
Shawish continued the past seven years to live in the Muqata, from which, according to Israeli security officials, he directed the Brigades to carry out scores of shootings against Israelis driving on West Bank roads.
Several years ago Shawish sustained an injury during a gun battle with the Israel Defense Forces and has since been confined to a wheelchair, although he is still able to drive.
According to Israeli security officials and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades sources in Ramallah, Shawish was arrested after the Israeli police stormed his jeep, which was parked in a lot outside the Muqata, about 200 feet from Arafat's grave. The sources said at the time of his arrest, Shawish was having intercourse in the back seat of his jeep with a Palestinian woman, whose identity is being withheld by WND. The woman was not his wife.
The Brigades, founded by Arafat, largely considers the late PLO leader's resting place to be a sacred site.
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Polling data just released (April 24, 2007) in a rigorously conducted face-to-face University of Maryland/ WorldPublicOpinion.org interview survey of 4384 Muslims conducted between December 9, 2006 and February 15, 2007-1000 Moroccans, 1000 Egyptians, 1243 Pakistanis, and 1141 Indonesians-reveal that 65.2% of those interviewed-almost 2/3, hardly a "fringe minority"-desired this outcome (i.e., "To unify all Islamic countries into a single Islamic state or Caliphate"), including 49% of "moderate" Indonesian Muslims. The internal validity of these data about the present longing for a Caliphate is strongly suggested by a concordant result: 65.5% of this Muslim sample approved the proposition "To require a strict [emphasis added] application of Shari'a law in every Islamic country."
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probably a similar number support executing apostates; murdering random infidels when someone in the world insult Islam, etc.
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depends on how it was phrased. Sharia in general, and muslim unity have apple pie and motherhood status in the muslim world. How many people in the US would answer yes to a vague appeal for world govt? How many answer yes to wanting the US to be ruled by the bible?
Yet in Indonesia, which has elections, the elected govt is putting through 'strict sharia'. I think theres a disconnect between what someone tells a pollster, and what they actually want in real political give and take.
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Also, unless that the university of Maryland has had the ointerviews led by westerners speaking the local languages (0% chances) that means the interviewer is a Muslim. Telling you are not for Shariah can quickly lead to an accusation of apostasy.
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I doubt it will happen, too, but they will give it a try. And organizing blood soaked, brutal, primitive dictatorships is the one skill they do have.
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LHawk probably has a point when he implies that most moslems believe strict Sharia is benevolent based on the BS they've been taught (strict Sharia meaning no music, people whipping you if you don't pray 5 times a day, etc.)
The folks who've actually experienced Sharia would have a different viewpoint, however, they typically (I think) attribute the awfulness of the Sharia they endured to the awfulness of the Sharia-imposers (e.g., Al Q in Anbar) rather than to the inherent awfulness of Sharia itself.
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Most of us have known for a long time that we have a problem. This poll and other data that will surface will help pull the disbelievers out of the fog and into the daylight of truth. Then there are the never ending murders and bombings from within muslim countries and the downward spiral of muslim relationships with non-muslims worldwide. I see no sign of improvement, just a face first plunge into full warfare.
To quote Bush in a finer moment, "Bring it on."
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Let's hope we wake the hell up before they start flying airplanes into skyscrapers or something like that...
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I don't think you can compare Muslims under Sharia Law to anything in the Western world. There is little to no assimilation in any country where Muslims have settled. They have not really settled. They take their culture and try to impose it on the larger culture wherever they are. This is unacceptable. They try to force their will on countries by terrorism and aggression. They try to gradually take over the countries where they are insidiously and assiduously from within. Islam is a danger to Western culture. It is not the religion of peace. Muslims know this. They scream discrimination, racism, islamophobia whenever anything comes up. What is to be done about this is another thing. How do you preserve your culture and not shut down freedoms?
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How ? We have to call them out. Expose them as a subversive political party, not a false religion. We have to outlaw The Islamic Party in western societies. They either forsake Islam or we get rid ot them. The method of how to get rid of them rests primarily with them. We dare not leave them here. The analogy of a mestasizing cancerous growth is very apropos. You either extract the cancerous cells or kill them in place. Killing them in place usually does great damage to the host, killing adjacent healthy cells and generally weakening the host for a considerable period of time.
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How many of these have been told their entire life that the mooselimb way is better?
Enough to make huge numbers of them extremely dangerous to Western society.
I think theres a disconnect between what someone tells a pollster, and what they actually want in real political give and take.
So, LH, should all of us just ignore this poll and go back to sleep? While Muslims may enjoy the "notion" more than the reality, it in no way alters their drive towards this hideous goal. Even if the numbers are slightly off, they still indicate a preponderance of supporters for global theocratic dictatorship. Let me know if that's something you're willing to countenance. The level of "disconnect" within Islam makes it a form of mass cognitive dissonance. You speak of Islam as if it actually possessed some sort of redeeming features. Feel free to name them.
A Caliphate is about the same theory to Muslims as the "New Jerusalem" is to some Christians.
Perhaps so, but to Christianity's immense credit a "New Jerusalem" probably wouldn't involve chopping off hands, heads and genitals. There is a difference.
It's never gonna happen.
That didn't stop the Nazis from trying the same thing and killing millions in the process. Low odds mean nothing to fanatics, just look at the Afghani Taliban. This is not something about which we can afford to sit around and wait until things get worse. They already are worse and will only become far more tragic for all involved, Muslims included, if immediate action is not taken.
I doubt it will happen, too, but they will give it a try.
Give the man a Kewpie doll! Damn right they will try, its in their scripture and not supporting the concept is an instant death sentence. We've already seen how this affects the actions of so-called "moderate" Muslims and that whole experiment has been a smashing success, now hasn't it?
The folks who've actually experienced Sharia would have a different viewpoint
If that's so, why aren't the people of Afghanistan offing the Taliban themselves? After their taste of austere Puritanical Islam you'd think that a return to even moderate freedom would be an unassailable goal. It isn't, and far too many Muslims support the concept of theocracy to trust them at all.
They try to gradually take over the countries where they are insidiously and assiduously from within.
I don't know if I've ever seen a sentence where "insidiously" and "assiduously" both appeared, properly spelled and in correct context at that. Extra points.
We have to outlaw The Islamic Party in western societies. They either forsake Islam or we get rid ot them.
Not to nitpick, WE, but given taqiyya, how can we tell they've foresaken Islam? The simple answer is that we can't and never will be able to. This is why I've begun to advocate a mass reconsolidation of all Muslims back in their respective countries of origin. As Fjordman notes, these Islamic hellholes are undergoing unprecedented population growth that they are utterly incapable of sustaining in terms of agriculture, economic opportunity or infrastructure. Their only solution has been to export these savages to the West in order that they may subvert our cultures.
ENOUGH ALREADY! We must reverse this trend through mass deportation. Internment really is not an option. The cost alone would be prohibitive and one need only look at the Lebanese "refugee camps" for an illustration of what to expect. Muslims must be made to realize that theirs is a failed religion ideology and social system. There is no other way than to make them experience the logical extension of their own culture's practices and beliefs. Once they undergo the misery and repression that their beloved shari'a law imposes upon them, perhaps then they will begin to reassess their beverage of choice.
Plain and simple; Islam seeks to establish a Fourth Reich. End of story.
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Well stated, Zenster. Our problem remains, however that half of America thinks Bush flew the jets into the towers, and many of the rest are not willing to forgo their stock market gains for mere survival.
I watched Tora, Tora, Tora yesterday, and couldn't get over how similar the 'negotiations' prior to Pearl Harbor are to today's bullshit sessions with and about Iran. I don't think Iran has the balls to attack us directly, but using the clock while they advance their agenda and using their proxies to kill American soldiers has passed critical mass in my opinion.
Carpet bomb today!
In the US, this sort of social change is done through the legislative process. So polls are nice, but what matters is election (and primary) day.
Radical muslims have a freelance option that's well-funded, high-visibility, and not too difficult to join. So these figures translate into a recruiting pool and an enabling pool.
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Western societies are averse to violence. It upsets their comfort, their psyche and their standard of living. We see that aversion writ large with our involvement in Iraq...half measures, treading lightly, trying to make them like us, etc. Zensters ideas are fine but are just not going to happen...until a major attack or series of near-major attacks happens in the west. People do not feel threatened on a visceral level and so will not take the very distateful actions needed to address the problem. Once they truly do feel threatened, and it will be in response to tens of thousands of their countrymen killed, then they will be hardened. And it is a hardening. It is a stripping away of what we regard as the cornerstones of liberal western society...compassion, generosity, kindness, etc. It is this part of our humanity that we will lose, at least for a time, in our effort to wipe islam from our midst.
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Hardening. Some of the WW II vets I know hardened themselves against the Japenese, and they still have no use for any of them.
OTOH, we think the polls are skewed against Bush and the GWOT, right? Ya think the subject poll is skew-free?
The last time I participated in a poll, there were a number of times I told the pollster, "None of the above", but ya gotta pick from the list!
Yeah, this poll is indicative of a big, big problem, but count me among those who think it's only hundreds of thousands, not hundreds of millions. A subtle difference, to be sure.
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Zensters ideas are fine but are just not going to happen...until a major attack or series of near-major attacks happens in the west.
While I concede the probability of your observation, remoteman, the issue then remains how to militate the people before such attacks happen. It is up to all patriotic Americans to begin educating the general public as to how important it is to pre-empt such atrocities. Not just by fighting Islamic theocracy abroad but also by emplacing both a halt to new immigration by Muslims and "reverse immigration" as well. It can be done and we need to find a way of doing it. The tremendous loss of life and profound economic damage that a few terrorist nuclear attacks would do to our country is simply not acceptable.
The elite class has every intention of continuing to fight the war on terrorism without naming the enemy, without revealing his beliefs, without unmasking his intentions, without offending his accomplices, without expelling his fifth columnists, and without ever daring to win. Their crime can and must be stopped. The founders of the United States overthrew the colonial government for offenses far lighter than those of which the traitor class is guilty.
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As many others here have noted, it is our elite class of politicians in office who often betray us in the very worst fashion. All the while knowing better, for personal short-term gain they nonetheless mislead Americans about the threat which confronts them. This is simple treason and should be dealt with as such. Democrat voters, deluded as they may be, are far less culpable than our government's tacit facilitators of Islam's filthy agenda.
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And the other 35% aren't yet informed of their jihad obligations. The purpose of a Muslim's wretched life is to create the "rule of allah" on earth. 100% of target peoples need to understand that we need to stop those barbarians, starting with mass deportations.
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Zenster, we can talk until we are blue in the face about the threat. Great orators of the past like Churchill attempted this very feat and failed. I agree that the alternative is unacceptable and I will continue to voice the obvious steps to prevention that you list. But we are all whisteling in the dark if we think it is going to make a difference. Bad stuff at some point is going to happen. Hopefully it will be low level events that wake the populace up, but I am not very hopeful of that given that there are significant powers within our societies that want to see us fail (an utterly suicidal wish as we all know since they are the ones that will be killed first).
Lebanese troops opened fire at a speeding taxi cab which drove past their checkpoint near Beirut Airport, killing a Syrian convicted of forgery as well as two other Lebanese citizens.
Police identified the fatalities as Hamadeh Mahmoud Haj Ahmad, a Syrian, and Hussein Karaki and Qassem Noureddine, both Lebanese citizens. Interesting. Haj Ahmad's "forger" status is a nice slap at the Syrian government. His ID, I bet, wasn't based on his passport documentation :)
Security Sources told Naharnet on Monday that Haj Ahmad was driving the vehicle at high speed, and refused to slow down upon instructions from soldiers manning a checkpoint near the airport. Old habits "die hard".
"He smashed the obstacles and drove past the checkpoint waving his middle finger at soldiers," one source told Naharnet. "Noble warriors of Lebanon, I salute you! hahahaha "
The troops fired "warning shots, and when the driver failed to pull over they opened fire at the car. Hussein Karaki, a Lebanese citizen who was sitting next to the driver, was killed and Haj Ahmad was seriously wounded," the source added. .... oh sh*t!
Haj Ahmad later died in the hospital, said the sources,
Let's hope it hurt real bad
adding that Noureddine, a passer-by who was caught in the shooting, also died from his wounds shortly afterwards. Like a tale from the Crossfire Gazette
The sources said Haj Ahmed did not stop at the checkpoint apparently because he had been convicted by a Lebanese court on forgery charges. "apparently"
They noted that non-Lebanese are banned by law from driving taxi cabs "which raises questions as why Haj Ahmad, a Syrian, was driving a commuting vehicle owned by a Lebanese citizen." shots were fired ... men were killed ... questions are raised ...
Registration documents show the car, a white Mercedes Benz, is owned by Lebanese citizen Ali Mohammed Fares who would be interrogated to find out why his vehicle was being used by a foreigner, the source told Naharnet. (knock, knock) ... "Who der?"
The sources said the car was carrying two passengers, in addition to the Syrian driver. They said only one traveler obeyed orders to step out of the vehicle before Haj Ahmed and Karaki sped away.
They said the passenger who got out of the car was detained for questioning. "I swear ... I missed the shuttle van!"
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#5 5089/JFM is this la Belle stiffning the spine of the Leb. government?
way hard to stiffen a Jello Spine w/out freezing, Shipr.
but I once sawr it done plain and simple many moons ago on the Jelly River.
yep it werer an ole gunney as i recollectthat roared a spine into whither thar once waz nothin but 'jelly' and we the whole squad formed up and fought like devil dawgs.
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Palestinian leaders yesterday tried to end a bloody standoff between the Lebanese army and militants holed up in a refugee camp - the battleground for Lebanon's worst fighting since the civil war. Worried that violence could spill over to other Palestinian camps, the government is giving the Palestinian factions time to try to deal with the Fatah Al Islam group, which has been battling the army around the Nahr Al Bared camp since May 20.
Sporadic gunfire continued into the early hours yesterday. The army said in a statement it had opened fire when fired upon and destroyed Fatah Al Islam fortifications, "causing definite casualties in the ranks of the militants". But the already stretched army has been unable to deal the militants a decisive blow from its positions around the camp, which it is banned from entering under a 1969 Arab agreement.
The Lebanese government is concerned that more heavy army action could trigger violence at other Palestinian camps in Lebanon, which are autonomous enclaves and home to some 400,000.
"What is slowing down the army is the realisation that we could have a nationwide problem," said Timur Goksel, an expert on security affairs in Leb-anon. "This would mainly be a reaction if the Palestinian civilian suffering was heavy."
Abu Emad Al Refaie, the Lebanon representative of the Palestinian group Islamic Jihad, said: "The military solution is no longer an option."
The Lebanese government has demanded the handing over of Fatah Al Islam militants, many of whom are not Palestinian. "We have not discussed the matter of handing them over," Refaie said. The factions had agreed other points including the formation of a Palestinian committee to shore up security in the camp, he said. Osama Hamdan, the Lebanon representative of Hamas, declined to comment on the progress of the talks.
A Fatah Al Islam spokesman said the group would not hand over any of its fighters. "This is impossible," Abu Salim Taha said by telephone from inside the camp.
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The Lebanese government has demanded the handing over of Fatah Al Islam militants, many of whom are not Palestinian.
A Fatah Al Islam spokesman said the group would not hand over any of its fighters.
Looks like push is coming to shove. It's about time for the Palestinians to learn that you can't shit on everyone and everything in sight without people getting riled up. Lebanon really needs to reconsider if continuing autonomy for the camps is in their best interest.
Others here have more background on just how far along Muslim displacement has progressed in Lebanon's pluralistic society. Does Lebanon's economy rely upon the huge amounts of UN aid flowing into the camps? Are there any actual economic benefits to perpetuating the camps' role in the "Right to Return" charade, or is it merely a matter of Arab solidarity? Once a popular Mediterranean playground, they need to examine closely just how impoverished their Islamically run neighbors are before letting the situation deteriorate any further.
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banned from entering under a 1969 Arab agreement
Exactly who is going to enforce this agreement? Is Lebanon a soveriegn nation or not? If it is, it has the right to defend itself and if Baby Assad doesn't like it then maybe we could send him a candygram.
Once a popular Mediterranean playground
That's my point, Zenster. I envision resort hotels, wide sandy beaches, discoteques, surf shops, bikinis and jobs for the locals if they could only stop shooting at each other. What a bunch of morons.
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banned from entering under a 1969 Arab agreement
Exactly who is going to enforce this agreement? Is Lebanon a soveriegn nation or not? If it is, it has the right to defend itself and if Baby Assad doesn't like it then maybe we could send him a candygram.
Once a popular Mediterranean playground
That's my point, Zenster. I envision resort hotels, wide sandy beaches, discoteques, surf shops, bikinis and jobs for the locals if they could only stop shooting at each other. What a bunch of morons.
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Ooops. I confess to hitting the submit button twice but the first time I got this message that said the web site had too many connections. Blame it on the vermin.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
MAZAR-I-SHARIF, Afghanistan - More than a dozen people were killed and more than 30 wounded in Afghanistan on Monday when police opened fire to break up a violent protest against a provincial governor, witnesses and a doctor said.
WASHINGTON, May 28 Every night in Iraq, American Special Operations forces carry out as many as a dozen raids aimed at terrorist leaders allied with Al Qaeda, other insurgent fighters and militia targets. Their after-action reports are the first thing that Gen. David H. Petraeus, the senior American commander in Baghdad, reads the next day.
A suicide car bomber struck a busy commercial district in central Baghdad on Monday, killing at least 21 people and damaging a Sunni shrine, police and hospital officials said. The bomb went off at 2 p.m. in the Sinak commercial district on the east side of the Tigris River near the Abdul-Qadir al-Gailani mosque.
