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Britain
Young British Muslim ex-prisoners unrepentant on views
Two young British Muslims who have served short prison sentences for terrorism offences have spoken frankly about their views to a new BBC documentary investigation into the extent of the radicalisation of Muslims in the UK. The views of Rizwan Ditta and Bilal Mohammed, two young Muslims born and brought up in Halifax, West Yorkshire, will be anathema to the vast majority of the British people including many British Muslims.

Ditta claims: "You can go to any [Muslim] youth on the street and say, 'Do you believe in Jihad?' and he'll say 'Yes'. 'Do you believe that al-Qaeda is a terrorist movement?' He'll say, 'No'." Bilal says: "The Western world is not letting anyone live in peace. It's the West who are at war with everyone."

The two are close friends. Both received prison sentences for possessing material likely to be useful to terrorists, most of it downloaded from the internet. Ditta was sentenced to four years and Mohammed to two. Both had pleaded guilty. Mohammed has the dubious distinction of being the first to be convicted under the new offence of glorifying terrorism.

They were released last year and are now out on licence with strict conditions. Both are unrepentant. Mohammed says that he was welcomed home with flowers and presents. He claims that none of the Muslim community views him as a terrorist. "They gave me support and comfort, saying everything is alright. Don't worry, you didn't do anything."

He reminded me of the reception that many IRA prisoners received when they returned home from the Maze prison.

There are an unknown number of sympathisers who, whilst not necessarily giving direct support to al-Qaeda and its surrogate groupings, nevertheless have some sympathy with their ideology and share a sense of grievance over Western foreign policy over Israel and the Palestinians, Iraq, and Afghanistan. But Ditta and Mohammed are the angry voices of an extreme element of young British Muslims today. MI5 believes there are about 2,000 extremists in the UK who pose a potential threat
Posted by: tipper || 02/08/2010 06:17 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mohammed says that he was welcomed home with flowers and presents. He claims that none of the Muslim community views him as a terrorist

We are continually told its a 'minority' in the muslim community but i believe whilst the jobless youths are the vocal ones the older generation are proud of them being more ISLAMIC!

Ps The Pakistani communities are the most radical!
Posted by: Paul2 || 02/08/2010 7:25 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd bet most of those in his colony are jizya parasites
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 02/08/2010 8:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Ditta claims: "You can go to any [Muslim] youth on the street and say, 'Do you believe in Jihad?' and he'll say 'Yes'. 'Do you believe that al-Qaeda is a terrorist movement?' He'll say, 'No'." Bilal says: "The Western world is not letting anyone live in peace. It's the West who are at war with everyone."

I just don't understand what this means. Could someone please get President Obama to explain it to me since he has decided that I can't think for myself. Or even have my own opinions. And shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Posted by: gorb || 02/08/2010 13:18 Comments || Top||


Economy
China eyes Panama Canal expansion
Posted by: tipper || 02/08/2010 04:07 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Starting to grasp the finer aspects of international trade. Well, at least they won't be hampered by decades of judicial appeals by the usual suspects trying to stop work in the name of Gaia.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/08/2010 6:38 Comments || Top||

#2  The Chinese tend to position themselves for the 'long haul' so they can control their 'outcomes' (and those of others). They've pretty much controlled (through Whampoa Ltd.) both the Atlantic and Pacific entrances of the canal since 1999-2000 (on who's presidential watch was that now?)

Of course this got very little MSM 'play' and the only way I even knew it happened back then was from a relative in the shipping business.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 02/08/2010 11:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Forgot to mention that they also control a LOT of other world seaports. Google "Whampoa Ltd" and 'seaports'. (Won't even get into the materials markets they control).

Seems like their 'Starting to grasp the finer aspects of international trade' occurred a long time ago. Don't forget, the Chinese have been in 'commerce' for over 5,000 years. They've learned a thing or two.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 02/08/2010 11:55 Comments || Top||

#4  They're getting into the game awfully late, and all the good spots were gone a long time ago. Heck, America got into the game late in 1898 and was lucky to get anything at all.
Posted by: gromky || 02/08/2010 12:39 Comments || Top||

#5  Don't forget, the Chinese have been in 'commerce' for over 5,000 years.

Chinese 'merchants' have been engaged in commerce for a long time but not the government. By the pre-20th Century Chinese society, merchants ranked on the lowest rung of society, below the peasants. The long history of the land was to tolerate what merchants generated but the xenophobic nature and sense of cultural superiority of the succession of dynasties meant the government acted in an insular fashion when it came to international trade. For one brief period when Zheng He explored the world did any of the Chinese regimes show significant interest beyond their immediate borders and even then the court eventually shut down the enterprise and destroyed the fleet. The European merchants and governments had to literally shoot their way into China in the 19th Century. I don't think the Mao era demonstrated much beyond exporting military hardware as a form of major commerce. So, yes the government is engaging in something that has been historically and culturally outside the standard practices of prior regimes.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/08/2010 13:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Don't really see the point. Yeah bigger boats can go through but the big trade companies these days have so many boats why do you need one of the big ones to transit the canal at all?
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/08/2010 13:18 Comments || Top||

#7  Don't really see the point. Yeah bigger boats can go through

Supertankers and Venezuelan oil.
Posted by: ed || 02/08/2010 13:21 Comments || Top||

#8  Besides I think if you sink one or two big boats in just the right spot you can close the whole canal down for a long, long, time.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 02/08/2010 13:42 Comments || Top||

#9  ...Supertankers and Venezuelan oil...

and large prefabricated oil rigs and parts.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/08/2010 16:41 Comments || Top||

#10  Okay, that makes sense. Still oil is fungible so why do they care where the oil comes from? Also China has fewer environmentalists so why not build nuke plants and ditch the oil dependence altogether?
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/08/2010 18:07 Comments || Top||

#11  ...and they're just getting started. Wait till they discover muscle cars. ;)
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/08/2010 18:38 Comments || Top||

#12  ION SINA PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > INDIA AID TO BHUTAN [+ Nepal], TIES IWD RUSSIA WORRYING CHINA. Indian andor Indo-Russian military arms assistance to the Himalayan Kngdoms = SOuthern Tibet.

* SAME/WMF > CHINESE PREMIER WEN: CHINA-JAPAN TIES AT CRUCIAL STAGE [US-Japan FUTENMA base deal = decisive factor].

* WMF > US HERITAGE FOUNDATION: IN 2025 CHINA MAY BE THE PACIFIC'S NUMBER ONE SUBMARINE POWER, NOT THE US NAVY, WID A MODERN SUBMARINE FLEET EQUAL TO ANY FOUR OF THE REGION'S MAJOR NAVAL STATES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/08/2010 21:07 Comments || Top||

#13  WMF > "CHINA'S HAWAII/PEARL HARBOR NB": CHINA TO BUILD PLA MILITARY SUPER-BASES ON HAINAN ISLAND.

GUAM-CNMI-WESTPAC caught in the middle. As per various prior WMF Artics, US BASES on GUAM,JAPAN are now widin easy reach of [improved]PLAAF H-6 strategic bombers, PLA "Second Arty" LR BMissles, + PLAN BM Subs.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/08/2010 21:14 Comments || Top||


Europe
Deutsche Bank And Unicredit Pull Out Of Greek Repo Market,
Bailout rumor refusal - check, bank/country run - check, collateral pulls - check. If anybody tells you there is everything in common between Greece and Lehman/AIG, believe them. The latest escalation in the Greek crisis comes courtesy of Greek daily Banking News which notes that the latest nail in the Greek coffin comes from formerly major Greek players, Deutsche Bank and Unicredit, which over the past 2-3 weeks have ceased accepting Greek collateral and have pulled out of the Greek repo market altogether.

Google translation:

We came to where big banks like Deutsche Bank German and Italian Unicredit Group does not accept bonds as collateral Greek and refuse to lend in the repo market for Greek banks.
It should be noted that Greek banks say when we mean big banks too big. In the last 2 to 3 weeks 3 -4 Greek banks have been requested by Deutsche Bank and Unicredit Group to lend in the repo market, but refused on the grounds that they do not want to risk having to Greek bonds.
Posted by: tipper || 02/08/2010 09:03 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Being Greek is going to be like the euphemism called Greek.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 02/08/2010 13:52 Comments || Top||

#2  A new acronym,

PIIGS

Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Spain, in reference to their debt (government bonds).
Posted by: phil_b || 02/08/2010 16:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Watch Greece carefully. That is the US in 20-30 years if we don't get Medicare, Social Security and the general socialist trend of the country addressed soon.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/08/2010 16:27 Comments || Top||

#4  That is the US in 20-30 years

We're being optimistic NS?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/08/2010 16:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Spain
Turkey
United kingdom
Portugal
Ireland
Dubai
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 02/08/2010 18:00 Comments || Top||

#6  That is the US in 20-30 years

Try 6 to 12 months.

Once default looks inevitable for Greece, and IMO it is already (baring a German bailout), the effect will cascade for all sovereign debt. Interest rates will climb steeply for all countries that have the potential for future default.

And as interest rates climb the point of no return to default comes rapidly closer to the present. The slippery slope gets steeper and steeper.

We are already at the point where the US is buying most of its own debt cos no one else will buy it. Ditto the UK. This temporarily and artificially suppresses interest rates at the cost of future inflation.

A country buying its own debt, which means printing money to do so, will inevitably lead to hyperinflation, but I repeat myself.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/08/2010 18:02 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm waiting for Barry in the finest traditions of FDR, to issue an Executive Order prohibiting the private ownership of GOLD and precious metals. Everyone knows GOLD ownership has become the domain of the evil rich and famous who have wildly inflated it's true value ($ 415. per ounce) and created undue hardships on the working and non-working classes.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/08/2010 18:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Beware of Greeks bearing debt.
Posted by: DMFD || 02/08/2010 19:09 Comments || Top||

#9  See also BHARAT RAKSHAK > DEUTSCHE BANK SAYS:GREECE "DRESS REHEARSAL FOR THE US".

* SAME > TWENTY [Made-In-America] REASONS GLOBAL DEBT BOMB WILL EXPLODE SOON | WHICH WILL TRIGGER THE GREAT DEPRESSION II.

* SAME > TEN REASONS WHY OBAMA IS FAILING INVESTORS, + THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD GOES BRITAIN.

NUTSHELL > IOW, Britain needs a ROSWELLIAN/SEVERE-IS-BEING-POLITE BAMMER BAILOUT, espec iff it hopes to avoid the econ chaos which in LT may devol into LONDONISTAN, BRITANISTAN, ANDOR EURABIA???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/08/2010 21:56 Comments || Top||

#10  *** cough *** cough ***... Once more, Boyz, wid feeling, IRELAND STANDS ALONE, agz future post-WOT, post-OWG Britanistan + Europistan.

[DANNY BOY, MOTHER MCCREE themes here].

NO? "IRISH SPRING" TV commercial Babes???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/08/2010 22:01 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
"Reviving the Islamic Spirit" or Promoting Islamic Dominance?
Billed as "Canada's largest Muslim convention," Reviving the Islamic Spirit -- 8th Convention was held in Toronto on December 25 -- 27, 2009. Having heard the reports that 17,000 attendees from Canada and the U.S. were expected, I decided to see for myself. I also wanted to know if the convention would stress spirituality, promote moderate Islam, or offer apologias for radical Islam.

The lecture hall, with a capacity of 6,500 people, was completely full and there were still many people outside. The sales area contained around 50 booths selling Islamic clothing and books. I looked for books by reformers such as Salim Mansur, Tarek Fatah, Irshad Manji, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, to no avail. Similarly, none of the speakers I heard addressed the violence of radical Islam. This gross omission about something so current and important was telling.

While waiting for another session to begin, I caught the tail end of a speech by Zaid Shakir of the Zaytuna Institute titled, "The Social Implications of Domestic Violence." Shakir did not defend the oppressive practices that are pervasive in the Muslim world, but claimed that Islam does not approve of molesting wives and children.
Let us assume here that molesting is intended to imply overenthusiastic beatings instead of sexual behaviour with inappropriate and illegal objects.
Instead, Shakir alleged, it was merely the fault of uncontrolled anger. He urged the community for help and understanding with these anger-related problems. There was no discussion of universal women's human rights or the actual treatment of women in Islamic countries.

Perhaps as some form of consolation to the women in the audience, Shakir promised that if a man beats his Muslim spouse, Allah might take his vengeance out on him. The crowd apparently found this humorous and laughter ensued.

Near the end of his talk, Shakir veered off course by stating that although the former Soviet Union was bigger than the U.S., Allah destroyed the USSR because of the invasion of Afghanistan. When he warned America to be aware of how they treat Muslims in Afghanistan lest Allah do the same thing to the U.S., loud cheers erupted from the audience. As a Canadian whose country also has troops in Afghanistan, I found this to be most disturbing.

Next up was the panel, "The New We: Muslims in Future of Western Society," featuring University of Michigan Professor of Arabic and Islamic Studies Sherman Jackson (also known as Abdal Hakim Jackson) and the controversial Swiss Islamic studies academic Tariq Ramadan.

Jackson, an African-American convert to Islam, spoke first. He believes that the Muslim and Western worlds are in conflict and competition, and that only one can end up dominant. Put simply, he wants to replace Western culture with Muslim culture.
Posted by: ed || 02/08/2010 08:24 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why is HUT not banned in western countries when they seek overthrowing Western values?

So I guess the preceding millenium isn't really indicative of Islam's true thinking in this matter. Or others.
Posted by: gorb || 02/08/2010 13:05 Comments || Top||


Clueless About CAIR and ISNA
The issue of terrorism is broadcast every day over the airwaves. Yet, so many of our government officials are clueless about it. How else would a leader from the Islamic Society of North America and the Council on American-Islamic Relations – two groups singled out by the Justice Department for their involvement in the financing of Hamas – be invited to a sitting Governor's State of the State Address? Regardless of the reason for the invitation, it was a dangerous oversight.

The Islamic Society of North America or ISNA held its most recent national convention – its 46th annual convention – in Washington, D.C., this past year in July. Participating at the event was the normal crop of Muslim radicals. They included Siraj Wahhaj, an “unindicted co-conspirator' of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; Zulfiqar Ali Shah, the former South Asia Director of KindHearts, a Hamas fundraising group that was shut down by the FBI in February 2006; and Naeem Muhammad, a U.S. staff member of Islamic Relief, a “charity' that the Israeli government has claimed is a front for Hamas. The latter two participated as “Moderators.'
Posted by: ed || 02/08/2010 08:20 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's been long enough. There is no rational excuse for allowing this farce to go on. If our legal system is so out of control in this matter that we can't stop it, then start plastering it all over the news and let public opinion be the judge.
Posted by: gorb || 02/08/2010 13:15 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
US Census rolls $2.5M on Superbowl ad
By Michelle Malkin

The U.S. Census Bureau will squander $2.5 million on a half-minute Super Bowl ad starring D-list celebrity Ed Begley, Jr., plus two pre-game blurbs and 12-second "vignettes" featuring Super Bowl anchor James Brown. It's a drop in the Census boondoggle bucket (otherwise known as the tax-subsidized National Democrat Future Voter Outreach Drive). The Obama White House has allocated a total of $340 million on an "unprecedented" promotional blitz for the 2010 Census. That's on top of $1 billion in stimulus money siphoned off for increased Census "public outreach" and staffing. In all, the Census will triple its total budget from 2000 to $15 billion.
Snippet. More at the link. Did anyone else here hit rewind on the DVR to watch it again and STILL ask, "WTF????"
Posted by: logi_cal || 02/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...And as you might have expected, it was the only thoroughly unentertaining one in the bunch - not to mention the fact that it's been running in most major markets for a week or so already.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 02/08/2010 4:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Stealth stim program for the dimishing MSM, sock puppet of One Party? Can't wait to see their banner on the right side of the Burg. Heh.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/08/2010 6:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Well Done New Orleans after all you have been through!

Funny to hear their Players say they are 'World Champions' when only ONE country was involved.

Is this the same with Baseball/Basketball in the US?
Posted by: Paul2 || 02/08/2010 7:30 Comments || Top||

#4  In professional baseball the finals are referred to as the 'World Series'. It's on the 'Little League' side that the finals are truly a world series. Don't even get started with all the commercial joints that refer to themselves as 'world famous'.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/08/2010 7:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Of course. Do you really think there is a team that could challenge us? That's why we play games no one else can understand. You probably think the Bay Bombers don't deserve to be World Chanpions either.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/08/2010 7:53 Comments || Top||

#6  You picked my pocket to the tune of $2.5 million and all i get is a lousy form???? WTF!?
Posted by: Glomock Tojo6610 || 02/08/2010 9:56 Comments || Top||

#7  Oh, good. Maybe Begley can rent a Hummer now while his Prius is in the shop...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/08/2010 19:10 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Pat Condell: Geert Wilders and the crooked judges of Amsterdam
Via Jihad Watch
Posted by: ed || 02/08/2010 09:05 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Worth a listen, well articulated and very prescient for us unless we are very, very brave in confronting the menace of Islamization.
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 02/08/2010 19:04 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Hakimullah Mehsud: Dead or Alive?
[Asharq al-Aswat] For the third time in a matter of months, contradictory statements have been issued by the Pakistani authorities and the CIA on the one hand, and the Pakistani Taliban movement on the other. As soon as Islamabad announces the killing of Pakistani Taliban Chief Hakimullah Mehsud, who is also an Al Qaeda ally and the prime suspect of a series of bombings and security operations in Pakistan and Afghanistan, the Taliban rushes to release a video or voice recording on the internet featuring Mehsud refuting claims of his death and emphasizing that new operations are on the way. Mehsud's fate was a source of controversy over the past period after some reports indicated that he was the target of two drone attacks.

When the Pakistani authorities distribute photos of raids on mountainous areas to confirm the elimination of the Pakistani Taliban leadership, the movement reacts by releasing footage to refute claims that the man has been killed.

Therefore, as battles and bombings continue on the streets, the media war is never far away from the AfPak front in the style of the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

It seems that the repetitive announcement of Mehsud's killing serves as a tool to make him reappear again, and he, in fact, responds to this, unaware of the intentions of the authorities inside or outside of his country. The man loves the images and the media and is probably attempting to imitate Osama Bin Laden in his performances and his appearances in front of the camera, and admires the stories of Osama's cruelty and tyranny towards his opponents and victims.

In dealing with the media, Hakimullah Mehsud relies on the expertise he acquired as spokesman for his predecessor Baitullah Mehsud. This role made him a well-known character as a result of his direct contact with journalists and the numerous interviews he gave. He seldom refrains from giving interviews and is at the forefront of the Taliban scene in the Waziristan province following the assassination of former leader Baitullah Mehsud.

Even in the video recording that featured the Jordanian suicide bomber Humam al Balawi, who blew himself up at a US base in Khost killing a number of CIA agents at the beginning of this year, Hakimullah Mehsud appeared next to him as if he were the godfather of that operation, even though al Balawi planned the operation alone (and this came to light later). But al Balawi wanted to butter up the Pakistani Taliban.

Both announcements (of the killing and the denial) show an apparent use of modern tools of communication as part of a battle that should first start with verifying whether or not it's worth engaging in. To make the media a tool for exchanging messages in such an overt manner is to move away from the real professional essence of what the media is intended for. But it seems that this is not the case when it comes to the issue of the Taliban.

Is it down to the media to carry out this task? Is exclusiveness more important than verifying news? Or should verification and the truth take precedence over the matter of getting a scoop?
Posted by: Fred || 02/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: TTP


International-UN-NGOs
The Great IPCC Meltdown Continues
Posted by: tipper || 02/08/2010 12:50 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Terror Networks
A Non-Violent Jihadi is Still a Jihadi
The British media is reporting that a teacher in the London School of Economics' government department is a member of Hizb ut-Tahrir, an extremist group seeking to internally overthrow democracy and capitalism and replace it with Sharia Law.
Also a feeder organization to jihad groups.
Unfortunately, the violence of groups like Al-Qaeda has caused HUT and groups like it to look less extreme by comparison and so they are not receiving the attention they deserve.

The revelation that an HUT member teaches students in a London university and preaches at a mosque attended by students is exposing the reach of the group. The London Times reports that at least two teachers in London are members or supporters of HUT. This follows an earlier report that resulted in a political scuffle in November when David Cameron, the leader of the opposition Conservative Party, alleged that the government had provided funds to fight extremism to two schools run by the Islamic Shakyhsiyah Foundation, which he said was linked to HUT.

Attention was also brought to the HUT in the United Kingdom in November when Azad Ali, a Muslim who has defended the group and praised Abdullah Azzam, the Muslim Brotherhood mentor of Osama Bin Laden, was chosen to serve as an advisor to the Director of Public Prosecutions. On his blog, he wrote that “There is no respite from the terrorist slaughter machine of the Zionist state of Israel. America and our own government have given much fuel to this machine and in fact helped to build the killing machine.'

Hizb ut-Tahrir also has a significant presence in the United States. On July 19, 2009, the American branch of the group held its Khalifah Conference in Oak Lawn, Illinois and reports say it was attended by between 300 and 700 people. Its theme was “The Fall of Capitalism & The Rise of Islam.' The Investigative Project on Terrorism has footage of one imam that spoke at the conference saying that the American Constitution should be replaced by Sharia Law.

Although HUT declares itself to be non-violent and against terrorism, a former member of the organization has produced a documentary that shows leaders of the group supporting suicide bombings against Coalition forces in Iraq as well as Israel, whose right to exist they refuse to recognize. It has also praised jihad in places like Kashmir and Chechnya.

The former leader of HUT wrote in his book that anyone running a government not based on Islam should “either retract or be killed … even if this led to several years of fighting and even if it led to the killing of millions of Muslims and to the martyrdom of millions of believers.' FoxNews.com has also reported on a HUT leaflet from March 2009 that called for declaring “a state of war against America' and the group's official stance justifying hijackings if the plane belongs to a country at war with Muslims.

Several members of HUT have gone on to become terrorists, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, so while the group may not train or dispatch terrorists, its extremism certainly motivates some recruits to act in violent ways. Although the two sides disagree on some methods, they are united in their goals.

Al-Qaeda has condemned HUT and the group has condemned the September 11, 2001 attacks, although it is unclear whether the group believes Bin Laden was behind the event or Zionist conspirators in the American government were,
Take a guess which.
as many extremists believe. The group's leader in Britain said after the 2005 bombings in London that he would “condemn what happened in London only after there is the promise from Western leaders to condemn what they have done in Falluja and other parts of Iraq and in Afghanistan.' It should also be mentioned that Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohamed, the founder of the Al-Muhajiroun terrorist group allied to Al-Qaeda, helped set up the HUT's branch in Britain before he was expelled from the group.

The ranks of HUT should be expected to grow. As Al-Qaeda's prestige wanes due to its lack of success, other groups offering different strategies for waging jihad are going to gain in popularity. Muslims that share the goal of restoring the Caliphate and spreading Sharia-based governance but have grown disenchanted with Al-Qaeda's means will find an ally they can sympathize with in HUT. Some might try to downplay the significance of HUT due to their relatively benign pursuit of jihad against the West, but they will only be rewarding the group's more intelligent campaign for the same goal.
Posted by: ed || 02/08/2010 08:38 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why is HUT not banned in western countries when they seek overthrowing Western values?

Posted by: Paul2 || 02/08/2010 9:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Why is HUT not banned in western countries when they seek overthrowing Western values?

Because westerners are more naiive than they would like to believe.
Posted by: gorb || 02/08/2010 13:02 Comments || Top||

#3  All these organisations are all break offs/inspired by the Mother of all Islamic organistions Muslim Brotherhood!
Posted by: Paul2 || 02/08/2010 15:05 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Fascist Environmentalist Police State Superbowl Ad Creates Stir
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/08/2010 12:53 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought it was a great slam against progressives, though the ad makers didn't intend it that way. And I'm sure the progressives are the ones screaming loudest this morning; this is like ripping a band-aid off for them.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/08/2010 14:54 Comments || Top||

#2  But the progressives think it is a great preview of how th4e world should be. So both camps are happy. Now who ran the ad?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/08/2010 15:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Some are cheesed, apparently, but there's at least one guy who thinks it's great for his side. Here's the money quote, you can find the dude via search engine if you like:

"The ad only makes sense if it’s aimed at people who acknowledge the moral authority of the green police"

So both sides apparently think the other is the butt of the joke. From an advertising perspective, that's a pretty decent accomplishment.
Posted by: Grenter, Protector of the Geats || 02/08/2010 15:15 Comments || Top||


Hugh Hewitt: Memo to Arianna: Stop being silly
Yesterday's joint appearance with Arianna Huffington on CNN's "Reliable Sources," hosted by the estimable Howard Kurtz, gave me a chance to tell Arianna in person what most people think about her crusade against the Fox News Channel: It is silly.
silly (sl)
adj. sillier, silliest
1. Exhibiting a lack of wisdom or good sense; foolish. See Synonyms at foolish.

Her focus on a word here and a phrase there is silly.
2. Lacking seriousness or responsibleness; frivolous: indulged in silly word play; silly pet names for each other.
The warning that Glenn Beck or others are "inciting" the public and that this is dangerous is silly.
3. Semiconscious; dazed: knocked silly by the impact.
The program also gave me the opportunity to say on television what I often say on radio: If I had it in my power, I'd give Keith Olbermann a 24/7 cable channel because he does more good for the center-right than almost anyone in America.
counterproductive (ko̵unt′ər prə duk′tiv)
adjective
bringing about effects or results regarded as contrary to those intended

His wild-eyed craziness combined with obvious lack of knowledge about so many things make him an advertisement for conservatism, and I really hope he survives his ratings plummet.
lunatic (ln-tk)
adj.
1. Suffering from lunacy; insane.
2. Of or for the insane.
3. Wildly or giddily foolish: a lunatic decision.
4. Characterized by lunacy or eccentricity.

He's the perfect example of a prompter-dependant sports announcer-turned-political commentator who digs a hole for the Left every night. Long may he broadcast.
incompetent
Pronunciation: /(ˌ)in-ˈkäm-pə-tənt/
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French incompétent, from in- + compétent competent
Date: 1595
1 : not legally qualified
2 : inadequate to or unsuitable for a particular purpose
3 a : lacking the qualities needed for effective action b : unable to function properly

But what I really enjoyed saying the most was the obvious: The Beltway-Manhattan media elite still cannot figure out Fox for the same reason they can't figure out Rush or Sarah Palin.
gormless
Pronunciation: /ˈgȯrm-ləs/
Function: adjective
Etymology: alteration of English dial. gaumless, from gaum attention, understanding (from Middle English gome, from Old Norse gaum, gaumr) + -less
Date: 1883
chiefly British : lacking intelligence : stupid

They are elitists who long ago lost touch with the center of American opinion and who have no way of finding their way back again because they continue to staff up with a lethal (for ratings) combination of privileged execs, liberal-to-left-wing writers and producers, and know-nothing teleprompter readers.
groupthink
Pronunciation: /ˈgrüp-ˌthiŋk/
Function: noun
Etymology: group + -think (as in doublethink)
Date: 1952
: a pattern of thought characterized by self-deception, forced manufacture of consent, and conformity to group values and ethics

What Roger Ailes has figured out that results in the cable ratings domination by Beck, "Special Report," Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Greta Van Susteren is not string theory.
string theory (strĭng´ thē`ô`rŷ)
n. 1. (Physics) A mathematical theory for describing the properties of fundamental particles, which represents the particles as one-dimensional string-like objects, which exist in the normal four dimensions of space-time plus additional dimensions, the total dimensions being ten, eleven, or twenty-six depending on the version of the theory. The properties of fundamental particles in string theory and their manner of interaction with each other depend upon the modes of vibration of the strings. The attractiveness of this theory rests in part on its ability to provide a unified treatment of gravity as well as the three other basic forces of nature, in a manner consistent with quantum mechanics. The great difficulty of doing the calculations required by the theory, however, has thus far (1999) made it impossible to calculate the observable properties, such as the mass, of known particles, such as the electron, proton, mesons, quarks, and neutron; thus there is as yet no experimental verification for the theory. The most popular version of the theory depends on a mathematical property called supersymmetry, and the theory derived form this principle is properly called superstring theory, a term which is often used interchangeably with string theory.

It begins with respect for the audience as opposed to contempt, and then adds in good humor and balance. The "Special Report" panel is the best panel in the business because it always has at least one smart and well-read lefty on it. Hannity's Great American Panel is the same.
fairness n.
Synonyms: fair1, just1, equitable, impartial, unprejudiced, unbiased, objective, dispassionate
These adjectives mean free from favoritism, self-interest, or preference in judgment. Fair is the most general: a fair referee; a fair deal.
Just stresses conformity with what is legally or ethically right or proper: "a just and lasting peace" (Abraham Lincoln).
Equitable implies justice dictated by reason, conscience, and a natural sense of what is fair: an equitable distribution of gifts among the children.
Impartial emphasizes lack of favoritism: "the cold neutrality of an impartial judge" (Edmund Burke).
Unprejudiced means without preconceived opinions or judgments: an unprejudiced evaluation of the proposal.
Unbiased implies absence of a preference or partiality: gave an unbiased account of her family problems.
Objective implies detachment that permits impersonal observation and judgment: an objective jury.
Dispassionate means free from or unaffected by strong emotions: a dispassionate reporter.

Rarely if ever will you find a Fox anchor using the term "tea bagger" because to do so is to insult the millions of activists involved in the past year of town halls, demonstrations and debates, but also those who know them and beyond that those who are interested in what they have to say.
insult
Pronunciation: /in-ˈsəlt/
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French insulter, from Latin insultare, literally, to spring upon, from in- + saltare to leap -- more at saltation
Date: 1540
intransitive verb
archaic : to behave with pride or arrogance : vaunt
transitive verb
: to treat with insolence, indignity, or contempt : affront; also : to affect offensively or damagingly

And you will find Fox covering the president's stumbles and the stories about the administration's rising tide of failure. The MSM has an enormous double standard -- imagine if Palin had mispronounced the word corpsman twice in her address Saturday night or her interview with Chris Wallace on Sunday morning -- and that double standard first astonishes and then offends.
offend
Pronunciation: ə-ˈfend
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French offendre, from Latin offendere to strike against, offend, from ob- against + -fendere to strike -- more at ob-, defend
Date: 14th century
intransitive verb
1 a : to transgress the moral or divine law : sin b : to violate a law or rule : do wrong
2 a : to cause difficulty, discomfort, or injury b : to cause dislike, anger, or vexation
transitive verb
1 a : violate, transgress b : to cause pain to : hurt
2 obsolete : to cause to sin or fall
3 : to cause to feel vexation or resentment usually by violation of what is proper or fitting

The refusal to cover comprehensively the president's year of serial pratfalls and his risible reflex to blame Bush confirmed for a vast segment of the American audience that the MSM remains just as in the tank for President Obama as it was for candidate Obama. When the networks cease to be infomercials for the president, they might win over some of Fox's broad and growing audience.
pimp
Pronunciation: /ˈpimp/
Function: noun
Etymology: probably akin to British dial. pimp small bundle of sticks, Middle English pymple papule, German Pimpf young boy, kid, literally, little fart, Pumpf, Pumps fart
Date: 1600
: a man who solicits clients for a prostitute

There is no reason why MSMBC and CNN have to lag so far behind Fox. The audience is up for grabs every single night in America. There is no "brand loyalty" in the world of cable news. But to compete, you have to at least try to be fair and balanced. Or you at least have to be talented and smart.
dumbass - Noun 1. a stupid person;
these words are used to express a low opinion of someone's intelligence:
blockhead, bonehead, dunce, dunderhead, fuckhead, hammerhead, knucklehead, loggerhead, lunkhead, muttonhead, numskull, shithead, dolt, dullard, pillock, poor fish, pudden-head, pudding head, stupe, stupid, stupid person - a person who is not very bright; "The economy, stupid!"
Posted by: Fred || 02/08/2010 11:15 || Comments || Link || [21 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The way I see the cable news problem is as if someone went out and did a survey of people. They discover that 51% of the people are Democrats (this us just to get the point across the numbers aren't right, but just to illustrate there are more Rs than Ds). So every single one of them starts news operations that pander to people left of center.

Now imagine someone doing a survey and found that 51% of the people prefer chicken to burgers and so 25 chicken joints open in your town. Also imagine that they all have exactly the same menu provided by Associated Chicken.

Now imagine some wise individual opens a burger joint. You have 25 chicken joints competing for 51% and one burger joint that has 49% all to itself.

CNN doesn't really compete with Fox, they compete for MSNBC and the network news audiences. Fox's market share don't like CNN and MSNBC's product. It insults them, it alienates them, calls them stupid.

Ailes is a smart man. Arianna comes across as patronizing, condescending, self-promoting, and too clever by half.
Posted by: crosspatch || 02/08/2010 11:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Meant more "D"s than "R"s
Posted by: crosspatch || 02/08/2010 11:49 Comments || Top||

#3  But what I really enjoyed saying the most was the obvious: The Beltway-Manhattan media elite still cannot figure out Fox for the same reason they can't figure out Rush or Sarah Palin.

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. - Sun Tzu
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/08/2010 12:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Im just saying this article is chicken soup for my soul.
Posted by: GirlThursday || 02/08/2010 21:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Arianna Huffington == Twit
Why does anybody on the planet take her in any seriousness....
Hell, ARNOLD, wiped her right out of a special election in the LEFT COAST!
She's a TWIT! End of Story!!
Posted by: 3dc || 02/08/2010 23:04 Comments || Top||



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