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Bangladesh
'Fundamentalism flourishes when democracy slowly falls apart'
Or vice versa: Democracy slowly falls apart when fundamentalism flourishes.
Dr Nusrat Rabbee, daughter of Dr Fazle Rabbee, a biostatistician, and a key witness in the war crimes trial, talks about her vision of 1971, the recent political turmoil, and Jamaat-e-Islami
[Dhaka Tribune] If Jamaat is behind all the chaos today, what do you propose as a solution given the current situation?

Bangladesh is not a place for radical, extremist, fundamentalist Islam. It never has been. Millions died for the birth of this country. We are rooted in secularism both before and after 1971. We are a country where each person is free to worship the god or deity of his choice. There are plenty of compassionate, respectful Muslims in Bangladesh and that is a good thing. Jamaat is not their voice. Jamaat needs to be outlawed for their heinous, evil role in 1971 -- aiding and abetting the genocide perpetrated by the Pakistani army against Bengalis. Just on this basis alone this organisation ought to be permanently dismantled and outlawed in Bangladesh.
Posted by: Fred || 01/13/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "All that is necessary is for Good Men to do nothing".
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 01/13/2014 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Excellent article. Perhaps someone will listen to bio-statistical analysis. No one appears to be listening to common sense.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/13/2014 5:35 Comments || Top||

#3  There are plenty of compassionate, respectful Muslims

I keep hearing this, but, I never "see" it. A few, sure, plenty....?

Why do these "moderate" Muslims never, ever, take control and implement all this compassion and secularism?

I'm from Missouri.
Posted by: AlanC || 01/13/2014 7:34 Comments || Top||

#4  There were those in the West who thought they had found the magic beans prior to WWII and admired or embraced Hitler and Nazism.
Posted by: JohnQC || 01/13/2014 10:00 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Multiculturalism will eat itself
NADEEM F. PARACHA
Pracha's rapidly becoming one of my favorite writers.
[DAWN] ... multiculturalism in the West emerged with full force and peaked in the mid-2000s when it became institutionalised in various Western countries.

The idea was to demonstrate and welcome cultural diversity and draw from various cultures their finest economic, sporting and artistic dynamics, and to respect (rather than suspect) their distinctiveness. This was to be done for the benefit of the countries of which the men and women of different nations had come to settle and work in.

However,
facts are stubborn; statistics are more pliable...
some two decades after the arrival of multiculturalism in the West, it has started to be questioned and even derided for creating political and social turmoil now in various Western countries. So what happened?

Multiculturalism invited diversity and promised to give it respect. This part was well understood by most non-Westerners who had arrived in Western countries and appreciated a new openness in their attitudes.

But the other aspect of multiculturalism was about forming unity through diversity, for which it required people from different religious and cultural backgrounds to wholeheartedly interact and integrate with the overall cultural dynamics of the society that they had chosen to be a part of.

This aspect seemed to have gone missing in the attitudes of a number of men and women who have otherwise made full use of multiculturalism's tolerant ways in countries where they have settled.

Instead of even nominally integrating into a multicultural society, many have simply used it to ghettoise themselves, refusing to learn the adopted country's prevalent language or exhibit a similar respect towards the country's cultural norms.

It's become a one-way traffic, in which foreign cultures in a multicultural country would ghettoise themselves, but throw up their arms and complain of being discriminated against if asked to integrate.

Usually critics of multiculturalism just grumble if a people from a different community demonstrate this kind of behaviour.

However,
some people cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go...
things get terribly sensitive when a community uses the principles of multiculturalism to settle in Western societies; but after ghettoising itself, it not only begins to describe the demand of integration as an attack on its cultural moorings, but even threatens to respond with violence.

This dilemma seems to be particularly testing in the UK. Though not alone in triggering the ghettoisation fall-out of multiculturalism, the South Asian Moslem communities in the UK seem to be one of the leading exponents of cultural segregation.

As Moslem nations across the world were flushed with petro-dollars from conservative oil-rich monarchies from the late 1974 onwards, Moslem societies saw a surge in religious conservatism. The surge's impact was also felt by the Moslem diaspora in non-Moslem countries.

During the heyday of multiculturalism the South Asian Moslem community in Europe, US and Canada treated it as a licence to retreat into a myopic mode and shun integration. Some other Asian communities like the Chinese and the Koreans for example, can also be accused of the same, but they did not do what the South Asian Moslems did.

In the last many years one keeps reading about how mosques in some prominent European countries are being used to entice the young Moslem diaspora to attack symbols of moral corruption, sin and vulgarity in the very countries where this diaspora was allowed to settle and earn its livelihood.

Liberal and secular principles ingrained in the adopted countries' socio-political set up are being challenged and even attempted to be brought in line with the agitated diaspora's idea of morality.

What's more, it is also being noticed that when members of this particular South Asian Moslem community return to their countries of origin for a visit, they scorn at the lax attitude of their countrymen towards faith and morality.

They want their surroundings to be according to what they believe is the correct path. And if they are not, then the surroundings need to be infused with their idea of righteousness. By force, if necessary. This is the same attitude that is emerging in the Pak middle classes as well.

There are numerous young Moslems in South Asia who have what it takes to strike a constructive give-and-take deal with Western multicultural societies. And they are likely to flourish in many fields in those more open lands.

But their path is being sullied by the irresponsible, selfish and ghettoised behaviour and mindset of their contemporaries who, unlike them, have managed to find a spot in these countries but are hell bent on destroying the very idea that first gave them the chance to demonstrate their cultural identities there.

Multiculturalism has become the new white man's burden, and thus a weapon in the hands of those who plan to devour its most tolerant and progressive notions with their fanaticism to impose their own skewed and myopic beliefs.
Posted by: Fred || 01/13/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [13 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Multiculturalism was always intended to be disruptive.
Posted by: Tiny Speaking for Boskone4184 || 01/13/2014 9:46 Comments || Top||

#2  This guy (Roy Beck and the gumball analogy) thinks immigrants should stay home and build their own economies to dig the world out of poverty. Roy Beck and his gumballs
Posted by: JohnQC || 01/13/2014 9:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Excellent analogy. Thanks John.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/13/2014 9:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Define multiculturalism, Bet you can't, I can't.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 01/13/2014 11:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Yea, but it will eat us first.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/13/2014 12:01 Comments || Top||

#6  >The idea was to demonstrate and welcome cultural diversity and draw from various cultures their finest economic, sporting and artistic dynamics, and to respect (rather than suspect) their distinctiveness.

Rubbish. The idea was for oikophobes to laud it over those they hate whilst looting their public via rents (raised by immigration).
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 01/13/2014 14:10 Comments || Top||

#7  The assertion, under force of law, that all cultures are 'equal and deserving of adoption and respect'. Bullshit.
In implementation however it was much the way BP describes it.

Funny how only the west had to be 'multicultural' and the others, particular the Radical Islamic States and those people who immigrated (or illegally entered) from them were exempt. So were the elitists.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 01/13/2014 14:39 Comments || Top||

#8  The elites pulled a fast one by replacing multi-ethnic society (which the west had going well with the Melting pot idea) with Multicultural society which is devisive and cannot stand.

They are doing the same by conflating immigration wtih illegal immigration and most of the time they are getting away with it.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 01/13/2014 15:05 Comments || Top||

#9  Do you get multiculturalism in muslim countries?
Posted by: Voldemort Thranter2866 || 01/13/2014 17:34 Comments || Top||

#10  It worked for the Western Roman Empire... Oh yeah, not so much.
Posted by: mossomo || 01/13/2014 17:52 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Thor Guelph2538 || 01/13/2014 18:57 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
BENGHAZI COMIX: Is This What Really Happened in D.C.?
...Benghazi for Dummies Democrats Progressives...
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 01/13/2014 16:47 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Probably close to the truth...
Posted by: 49 Pan || 01/13/2014 18:29 Comments || Top||



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