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2005-03-14 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by 3dc 2005-03-14 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The "hacker" boys are doing everyone a great favor - they are doing what they always have done: show weaknesses in the system.

Its up to you if you want to trade your privacy for convenience.

Dont blame the hackers - blame the idiots in corporate management that scrimped on security and pushed the standard through without it - despite warnings from many security professionals about it.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-03-14 1:13:52 AM|| 2005-03-14 1:13:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Oh - and use the term properly: a "hacker" is not some evil rodent type bent on stealing. Thats a Mainstream Media misconception and continued misrepresentation.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-03-14 1:14:51 AM|| 2005-03-14 1:14:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Give him willies, OldSpook! ;-)

3dc, hackers are the white hats. I am kinda hacker too. Boo.

Crackers, phreakers and phishers are the black hats.

Hope you stand corrected now and would err no more!

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-14 1:53:31 AM|| 2005-03-14 1:53:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 If you want it private you better encript it. There is a reason I use CAT5 and not "wireless" The security sucks. But all those companies selling wireless gear don't tell you that. They want you to plug and paly and forget.

It's stupid. I'll shop for stuff without Bluetooth for damn sure. It's a selling point. Crackers just love to snoop and own you.

Hackers wrote the operating system you are using and the aoolication you are running. Don't confuse hackers(white hats) and crakcers (black hats.)

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-03-14 2:12:36 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-03-14 2:12:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Especially when some of those white hats become "grey" because they don a black hat "for Net and Nation" [used to be King and Country].

You guys really dont know even 1/10th of it or even what area its in ;-).

Posted by OldSpook 2005-03-14 4:18:19 AM|| 2005-03-14 4:18:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Area 51?

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-14 4:46:45 AM|| 2005-03-14 4:46:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Higher number. And thats all Im saying. Anything more would get me into trouble.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-03-14 5:15:18 AM|| 2005-03-14 5:15:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I would be worried if the Government weren't hiring Hackers to snoop. If I wanted to keep anything private I wouldn't put it on a computer thats for damn sure.

There is no gray there OldSpook. It a job and someone qualified has to do it. Are friends and enemies sure as hell are doing it.

Remember the first computer was used to crack codes. Yea the real first computer the one invented by England. Hacking and espionage have been keeping company for a long, long time.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-03-14 5:41:17 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-03-14 5:41:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 He can say no more...

Spooks!

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-14 7:41:17 AM|| 2005-03-14 7:41:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I don't know diddly about your substantive point, OS, but a kind of Gresham's Law applies to words. "Hacker" has misappropriated by thieves and vandals, so outside of MIT, that's what the word means any more. It's like "liberal" or "gay;" the bad usage drives out the good.

Posted by Jackal 2005-03-14 8:56:25 AM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-03-14 8:56:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Yea but Crackers are still the gay.

Posted by Sock Puppet Oâ Doom 2005-03-14 9:00:12 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-03-14 9:00:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Unfortunately the MSM has pretty much killed the true meaning of 'hacker' ever since they started reporting about the 'evil internet'.

At this point I dont think that's a battle we can win. I think we can do more good putting our energy to informing people the true nature of the enemy (and Islam).

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-03-14 9:23:31 AM|| 2005-03-14 9:23:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Gay, Islamofascist, Crackers.

Posted by Sock Puppet Oâ Doom 2005-03-14 9:30:56 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-03-14 9:30:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 I buy nothing online,if I see something online I want I call the company.

Posted by raptor 2005-03-14 10:32:06 AM|| 2005-03-14 10:32:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 Heck, I don't even use a computer. All my interaction with Rantburg is done telepathically.

Posted by Pappy 2005-03-14 11:08:06 AM|| 2005-03-14 11:08:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Hey, us crackers resent that. As I said to my wife the other day "Mom..."

OS, pay no attention to the extra charge on the Mastercard this month. Pr0n is getting more expensive than ever.

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2005-03-14 11:43:35 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2005-03-14 11:43:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 Old Spook, I did a direct quote from the article. Sorry if the article's use of hacker troubled you.
BTW... its the first BlueTooth stuff that looks interesting.
This is a good starting place for the WiFi Stuff

A buddy doing research for some of his security software put a slotted waveguide antenna and laptop in his car then drove the short distance from South Barrington IL to Schaumburg IL. He got over 1000 unsecured WIFI LAN hits.

Posted by 3dc 2005-03-14 12:28:26 PM|| 2005-03-14 12:28:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#18
graffitti antenna and Wifi Wallpaper

Posted by 3dc 2005-03-14 12:42:21 PM|| 2005-03-14 12:42:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 If it wasn't for my neighbors unsecured wireless I wouldn't have an internet connection at all!

Posted by Gir 2005-03-14 12:59:26 PM|| 2005-03-14 12:59:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Unsecured WiFi is so commonplace that its cesed to be something to look for in urban and suburban areas. If you need it, you can find it.

As for who does what, figure out which agency knows the most about signals propagation...

See which agency is tasked with COMSEC.

Look up which agency is known for its Computer Science (and yes this dates back to partnerships wth Bletchley), for instance who had the Cray invented for them...

which agency knows how to secure things crypto style...

And even now, which agencey is responsible for the most secure free oprating system around (SE-Linux) to keep US business secrets in the hands of US Businesses only...

Funny how those lead you to the same place...

And I wonder if anyone there bitched about Bluetooth?

Hint - Bluetooth was done mainly in Euro, and certain "unofficial" US sources from a particular agency complained about the lack of security in the design of Bluetooth, only to be told they were paranoid...

'nuf said.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-03-14 2:09:10 PM|| 2005-03-14 2:09:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 OS - I'm afraid to comment on your entries because, if I reveal that I comprehend what you're saying, I may be visited by some black helicopters 'round about midnight!

Posted by Dar 2005-03-14 2:24:02 PM|| 2005-03-14 2:24:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Yeah, OS, but we unsophisticated Merkins aren't as advanced as all those Euros who IM and Bluetooth everything. I read it in the International Herald Tribune - must be true.

Posted by too true 2005-03-14 2:24:55 PM|| 2005-03-14 2:24:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Actually, because of the antenna's power lobes (spiky, front and back), being real close to it (like say, looking through the scope) while the xmitter is on is definitely contraindicated....

Posted by mojo 2005-03-14 3:09:52 PM|| 2005-03-14 3:09:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 I think I smell a Darwin award winner somewhere in this technology's future - courtesy of some local SWAT team.

Posted by Lone Ranger 2005-03-14 9:48:35 PM|| 2005-03-14 9:48:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 The "hacker" boys are doing everyone a great favor - they are doing what they always have done: show weaknesses in the system.

Its up to you if you want to trade your privacy for convenience.

Dont blame the hackers - blame the idiots in corporate management that scrimped on security and pushed the standard through without it - despite warnings from many security professionals about it.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-03-14 1:13:52 AM|| 2005-03-14 1:13:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#26 Oh - and use the term properly: a "hacker" is not some evil rodent type bent on stealing. Thats a Mainstream Media misconception and continued misrepresentation.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-03-14 1:14:51 AM|| 2005-03-14 1:14:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#27 Especially when some of those white hats become "grey" because they don a black hat "for Net and Nation" [used to be King and Country].

You guys really dont know even 1/10th of it or even what area its in ;-).

Posted by OldSpook 2005-03-14 4:18:19 AM|| 2005-03-14 4:18:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#28 Higher number. And thats all Im saying. Anything more would get me into trouble.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-03-14 5:15:18 AM|| 2005-03-14 5:15:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#29 Unsecured WiFi is so commonplace that its cesed to be something to look for in urban and suburban areas. If you need it, you can find it.

As for who does what, figure out which agency knows the most about signals propagation...

See which agency is tasked with COMSEC.

Look up which agency is known for its Computer Science (and yes this dates back to partnerships wth Bletchley), for instance who had the Cray invented for them...

which agency knows how to secure things crypto style...

And even now, which agencey is responsible for the most secure free oprating system around (SE-Linux) to keep US business secrets in the hands of US Businesses only...

Funny how those lead you to the same place...

And I wonder if anyone there bitched about Bluetooth?

Hint - Bluetooth was done mainly in Euro, and certain "unofficial" US sources from a particular agency complained about the lack of security in the design of Bluetooth, only to be told they were paranoid...

'nuf said.

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