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2013-12-26 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Steve White 2013-12-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 The worst part will be the clean up. The Sorks are rightly terrified at the thought of having pay to undo 60+ years of hard core communisim with extra crazy on top. Wonder if the ChiComs can be induced to take over by threatening to set up NSA listening posts on the Yalu, near Chosin?

Posted by Nguard 2013-12-26 01:02|| 2013-12-26 01:02|| Front Page Top

#2 No, one thing both the SOKORS + NOKORS have in common is their mutual fear of a Chinese takeover of North Korea.

Again, NOKOR is in an unenviable position - their utility or role in peninsular war is to get killed using up the US-ROK + UN Command to make things easier for the likely intervening or defending Chinese PLA; or in the alternate to get killed trying to mil prevent a PLA takeover of their country for any reason.

As China's domination or control of NOKOR slowly but steadily increases, espec vee SINO-DPRK FTZS + LIKE, + PERENNIALLY DELAYED FORMAL REUNIFICATION BETWEEN BEIJING + TAIWAN, it may unfortunately prove to be in Pudgy's interest to attack first.

USS GEORGE WASHINGTON CVN I'M A'LOOKIN AT YOU.

Given the still-modernizing Operational, MilTech deficiencies of the PLA vee the US-Allies, CHINA = NORTH KOREA = ATTACK FIRST ANYWAY, IN-THEATER ANDOR OUT-OF-THEATER???

Lest we fergit, its a PLA General that covertly commands Kimmie's army, not Kimmie per se albeit his Regime is given certain or select autonomy.

THUS, ANY NORTH KOREAN ATTACK = COVERTLY CHINA-ORDERED, OVERTLY PUDGY/NORTH KOREA LAUNCHED = CARRIED OUT.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-12-26 01:42|| 2013-12-26 01:42|| Front Page Top

#3 KJU will [preemptively?] attack iff he + Regime believe there is no other domestic or diplomatic way to prevent de facto full PLA takeover or control.

As for CHINA ...

* TOPIX > [Arutz Sheva = INN] NORTH KOREA RUSHING WAR PREPARATIONS.

* SAME > [NowPublic] FUKUSHIMA: JAPAN'S [secret = covert] NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM REVEALED AKIE ABE.

Shinzo's Babe = Japan's First Lady.

* RELATED CHINA DAILY FORUM = ABE PLANS TO REWRITE JAPAN'S PACIFIST CONSTITUTION.

More everything for the JSDF, to include possible dev indigenous Nippon NucWeaps.

China knows that Japan is likely to do such ASAP AMAP ALAP iff it had a choice, hence it is to China's advantage to resolve any and all MilPol/Geopol = "strategic access", etc. issues wid Japan SOONER, NOT LATER I.E. BEFORE JAPAN + JSDF GET TOO MILITARILY STRONG + NUKULAAR + BEFORE US-LED MISSILE DEFENSE IS FIRMLY OR PERMANENTLY ESTABLISHED JUST OFF CHINA'S SHORES. DITTO AS PER ANY AND ALL OTHER PRO-US ALLIES IN EAST ASIA.

versus

* INDIAN DEFENCE FORUM > CHINA NEEDS TO KEEP NORTH KOREA IN PLAY DURING SIX-PARTY TALKS.

* VOICE OF RUSSIA > NORTH KOREAN LEADER "WAS VERY DRUNK" WHILE ORDERING EXECUTION OF HIS UNCLE'S AIDES.

Aides' executions broadly indic to ROK Intel that "Dear Uncle" wasn't long for this world.

Again, its quite possible that Kimmie's beloved late great "Dear Uncle" was "Pro-Reform, Pro-North Korea" [patriot], but Uncle's spouse "Dear Auntie" [Auntaaay] was "Pro-Reform?, Pro-China"
[Beijing lover], thus leading to family shenannigans + no one getting any Turkey or Gifts during the holidays.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-12-26 02:11|| 2013-12-26 02:11|| Front Page Top

#4 Joe, you can't tell between spoken crap and reality?

All they say is crap, they've no chance to succeed, just noise to bolster their people's minds.

The whole idea is to frighten their enemies, they have so many.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-12-26 10:22|| 2013-12-26 10:22|| Front Page Top

#5 I expect Joe can tell the difference James. Joe is a voracious reader and a fine judge of internet wisdom, which is why he is here. He knows from suicidal robots too.

Posted by Shipman 2013-12-26 10:32|| 2013-12-26 10:32|| Front Page Top

#6 of course, Redneck Jim will not suffer any harm should the bluster actually spill into actual war. He'll just say "told you so"

Posted by Frank G 2013-12-26 10:42|| 2013-12-26 10:42|| Front Page Top

#7 Sigh, No i won't say i told you so, why bother, nobody listens, y'all read, some comprehend, nobody does a damn thing.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-12-26 14:01|| 2013-12-26 14:01|| Front Page Top

#8 All they say is crap, they've no chance to succeed, just noise to bolster their people's minds.

True, the chances of the NorKs overrunning Seoul next week are slim to none.

However, to dismiss the NorK threat out-of-hand is foolish. There is such a thing as a suicidal attack, and "victory" is often defined differently.

Posted by Pappy 2013-12-26 19:09|| 2013-12-26 19:09|| Front Page Top

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