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2011-09-20 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

World Atlas ice loss claim exaggerated: scientists

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Posted by DarthVader 2011-09-20 14:19|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 One thing that's not exaggerated is that one can navigate the Northwest Passage the last few years - and most of the Northeast Passage, which has been exceedingly rare throughout known history.

Posted by Glenmore 2011-09-20 18:44|| 2011-09-20 18:44|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm probably going to a globally warmed hell for stating that this simply doesn't bother me one bit.

Posted by European Conservative 2011-09-20 20:20|| 2011-09-20 20:20|| Front Page Top

#3 The "end" of the last Ice Age: About 12,000 years ago

"known history": A few thousand years. (Which, by the way, includes the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age.)

Color me unimpressed.

Posted by Barbara 2011-09-20 21:01|| 2011-09-20 21:01|| Front Page Top

#4 I wish global warming were true. Warmer weather has always meant prosperity -- and we could use some.

ION - read somewhere that the poles tend to have a flip over effect. As one gets colder the other warms up. After a while the cycle reverses. Rinse and repeat. The point is that total ice stays about the same.

Posted by Iblis 2011-09-20 21:03|| 2011-09-20 21:03|| Front Page Top

#5 Barbara, actually we're still in an ice age (both poles are covered with ice which has NOT been the norm in the history of Earth).

The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this warming period.

Ivar Giaever
Nobel Laureate 1973

Posted by European Conservative 2011-09-20 22:21|| 2011-09-20 22:21|| Front Page Top

#6 That's quite true, EC - it's just easier for most people to understand to say the last ice age ended X years ago (when the glaciers began to recede from continental Europe, Canada, and the northern U.S). Actually we're still coming out of the last one. Here's hoping we don't enter another Maunder Mimimum. I'd be glad of another Medieval Warm Period, though I doubt the ski resorts would agree.

Posted by Barbara 2011-09-20 23:16|| 2011-09-20 23:16|| Front Page Top

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