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2010-10-03 Britain

Commandos say Brits not ready to cope w/ Mumbai copycat

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Posted by lotp 2010-10-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 So what are the chances that both former senior commanders of the SAS still act in a capacity as consultants to UK security and that this admission to the press is a fairly LARGE suggestion that the current AQ target was London UK?

A fact we need not forget about the Mumbai attacks was not the method but the location; attacking the financial district; the same as for New York, it was an attack on the financial district. This is a clear pattern of preferred target.

Posted by kojack 2010-10-03 04:31|| 2010-10-03 04:31|| Front Page Top

#2 My advice: Starting handing out the Lee-Enfields

Posted by badanov 2010-10-03 07:52|| http://www.freefirezone.org 2010-10-03 07:52|| Front Page Top

#3 I hope Europe and the U.S. is ready for this, because it will happen. I hope we don't wait 4-5 days before we send in the Calvary.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2010-10-03 08:42|| 2010-10-03 08:42|| Front Page Top

#4 For several years I have believed that AQ would come to grasp the difficulty in obtaining serious WMDs and the trained individuals to deploy and employ them effectivbely ina clandestine operation. Further, they would see the relative ease with which small arms and small traditional military explosives (AK-47/RPGs/SEMTEX/C-4)can be obtained in the US and Europe from Latin American and Easter European sources.
As a consequence, consider they have grasped that a Mumbai/DC Sniper/Texas Tower kind of strategy garners all the headlines needed, especially if there are several simulatneously in population concentrations like malls or sporting venues.
Having said that, you have to remember that a part of the success of the Mumbai operation swas the pathetic response of the general Indian LE units. The detailed analysis revealed that a great number of the rank and file responders had no ammunition (they had sold the few issued bullets they actually had for cash) and many had not fired on a range in many years. Not the same ineffective level of response in the US or Europe, so the length and density of casualties should be lessened. Still, the effects would be huge, and the statement enormous, focing the West to pivot to the massive resourcing demanded by a frighten public for traditonal LE presence in exponential increases in staffing and visibility. Another massive investment cost for virtually no expense on their part but throw-away jihadi dupes.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2010-10-03 13:17|| 2010-10-03 13:17|| Front Page Top

#5 If such an attack happens in the US, it will be in one of the cities with highly restrictive gun laws : LA, Washington DC, Chicago, Seattle, NYC, or Boston. The big cities in flyover country excluding Chicago tend to have well-armed publics, which would make the hajis pick another target.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2010-10-03 15:04|| 2010-10-03 15:04|| Front Page Top

#6 Complex attacks at busy airport terminals are my number one fear.

*Complex attacks - Initial car or suicide bomber(s) followed by smallarms fire or follow-on bombs targeting first responders. All timed in order to permit full media coverage.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-10-03 15:16|| 2010-10-03 15:16|| Front Page Top

#7 I can think of a dozen targets in Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands, and England that would result in huge casualties, a tremendous feeling of helplessness, and anger and frustration from the local citizens. I won't list them here for obvious reasons. I think an attack on Europe would be multiple strikes at one time, while the US would be struck at a later date. My assessment of the jihadis' primary target in the US would be Los Angeles, at rush hour on a weekday.

Regardless of where they strike, the pushback will be immediate, and probably extreme. If the jihadis attacked the Eifel Tower, Westminster, Buckingham Palace, the Brandenburg Gate, or the Vatican, the response would not be pleasant for the Muddled East. The terrorists may just achieve that "crusade" they've been claiming exists - to their detriment.

The only way to stop a determined enemy is make him so afraid of the counter-strike that he holds his peace. We've yet to do that with Islamists. We'll continue to have this kind of threat hanging over our heads until we do.

Posted by Old Patriot 2010-10-03 16:59|| 2010-10-03 16:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Regardless of where they strike, the pushback will be immediate, and probably extreme. OP

From the French, possibly. Others..... anyone's guess. I worked with an old COL years ago who was a Chem/Bio and SALT Treaty guy. He always said "if the French use a nuclear weapon against the Russians, we'll be able to see the flash from an E-Ring window."

Posted by Besoeker 2010-10-03 17:20|| 2010-10-03 17:20|| Front Page Top

#9 a part of the success of the Mumbai operation swas the pathetic response of the general Indian LE units.

Indeed. In 2007 there was a Sudden Jihad Syndrome attack on a shopping mall in Utah. A lone gunman. He was killed fairly quickly by an off-duty policeman from a nearby community who happened to be there, and naturally was armed. The jihadi only killed five (and wounded several) before being killed himself. He only had a few minutes in which to do his thing, unlike in Mumbai, where the jihadis ran around the city for the better part of four days.

Even in big cities where it's hard for ordinary citizens to legally get permits to go about armed, there are a fair proportion of armed people about, even if a number of those are normally considered bad guys, unlike in Mumbai. And our culture teaches both good and bad guys to shoot back when fired upon.

Airports, on the other hand...

Posted by trailing wife 2010-10-03 17:26|| 2010-10-03 17:26|| Front Page Top

#10 Old Patriot your comment regarding an attack in Los Angeles jihadist' primary target in the US would be Los Angeles, at rush hour on a weekday.
Show me that you need to take your medicine or you are crazy
Los Angeles as more arms procapita than any other USA city and is home of the best and oldest swat , plus over 187 very well arm gangs that if any jihadist even try to do something will be send back to suck allah cock

Posted by hunterkiller 2010-10-03 18:22|| 2010-10-03 18:22|| Front Page Top

#11 Iff AL-QAEDA + TALIBS, etal. are as WEAKENED as US INTEL repor believes, then IMO the US-NATO should presume that future Terrops will be agz TOP-VALUE TARGETS, INCLUDING BUT LIMITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE + UK ROYAL FAMILY ["decapitation" strikes], NUCPLANTS, ETC.

Again, 2012 + IRAN, MILITANT NUCLEARIZATION > 2010-2020/2025? the US-ALLIES should anticipate an UPWARD ESCALATION IN WORLDWIDE MILITANT TERRSTRIKES/OPS [Nuke-WMDS Terror], ESPEC IFF POTUS BAMMER + OTHER IS DEEMED AS BEING "WEAK" [MSM-Net Critics].

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-10-03 19:32|| 2010-10-03 19:32|| Front Page Top

#12 Los Angeles as more arms procapita than any other USA city and is home of the best and oldest swat , plus over 187 very well arm gangs

An attack on the freeway system at rush hour would be horrific. And unless the LAPD SWAT, or the LAPD in general, can airlift its way in or make its way to the nearest on-ramp, their response is going to be slow.

As for the "187 gangs", I highly doubt that they'll take on the attackers. For one, they're thugs. For two, the idea that gang-bangers would take on jihadis is just as... well... the San Andreas fault breaking open and spewing unicorns has better odds.

Posted by Pappy 2010-10-03 19:50|| 2010-10-03 19:50|| Front Page Top

#13 My first thought is that the Euro-weenies should consider letting their citizens defend themselves. Part of the reason the Mumbai attack had such success was that even the "armed" cops had no ammo.

My second thought is that shieldwolf knows jack about Washington State's concealed carry laws. Even the libtards in Seattle are armed, even if they are only dangerous when they miss their 10 O'clock soy decaf latte...

Posted by Drang 2010-10-03 20:53|| http://thecluemeter.blogspot.com/ 2010-10-03 20:53|| Front Page Top

#14 ION BRITANNIA, WAFF > [Brit Basra Pullout] UK DEFEATED IN IRAQ, SAYS US GENERAL.

* SAME > BRITAIN + FRANCE MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS FACE "ENTENTE OR OBLIVION".

Aka more popularly as "INTEGRATE-OR-DIE", "MARRY-ME-OR-WE-BOTH-LOSE" ......

* FYI SAME > POSTER Thread > "LADY GAGA" IS PART OF THE ILLUMINATI, as proven or indic in VARIOUS YOUTUBE VIDEOS.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-10-03 21:23|| 2010-10-03 21:23|| Front Page Top

#15 TOPIX/WORLDNEWS > GEORGE OSBOURNE: IMPOSE IMMEDIATE BUDGET CUTS OR FACE DECADE OF DEBT.

As NOSTRADAMUS + 1960's-1970's GUAM TAOTAMONAS, ETC. WOULD SAY > ARISE "JOSEPHINE BONAPARTE" = OWG MADONNA, ARISE ............. + D *** NG IT, GIRL, STILL KEEP PAULA AWAY FROM THE VEGGIES!

Have I said D *** NG IT!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-10-03 21:32|| 2010-10-03 21:32|| Front Page Top

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