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2008-07-12 Iraq

Ayatollah Ali Al Sistani behind Iraqi demand for withdrawal timetable

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-07-12 01:21|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 after sitting back and doing zip (which sometimes was productive in its' own way), this asshole is now the "national independence hero"?? LOL

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-07-12 08:51|| 2008-07-12 08:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Sistani has been playing a major role all along. He has been active in all policy decisions so far coming from the dominant Shia segment of the govt. He has been trying to reach out to the American policy makers on several ocassions. It is we who ignore him at our peril.

Sistani has motives which we do not notice and we are foolish not to recognise his power within the body politic of Iraq.

He can be understood. Karbala and the Mosque there is THE senior Mosque of the Shia sect. The TRUE site, if you will, of what amounts to a sort of "Papacy" for the Shia. The Iranians are his natural competitors for Shia allegiance. Qom , in Iran, is a NOT the dominant locus of Shia religious authority. Qom and Iran are upstarts to Karbala and to the AYATOLLAH position of Sistani.

It is Sistani who is the "Pope" of Shia not anyone in Iran.

WHY ARENT WE USING HIM? WE could undermine Iran in so many ways with the manipulation of Sistani.

But can you see some hotshot American Colonel dealing with the Pope and the smoothies of the Vatican Curia? Its the same with Sistani...he is like a Pope and he is surrounded by a evolution of Shia smoothies and slicks...much like the Pope is surrounded by an oil and sugar slick circle of Cardinals. Except the Shia bunch are into knives and damnation deeper than the Cardinals are into poison and mafia-like intrigue ( it was the Barzinis all along).

Where is Colonel Michael Corleone when you need him. ( Give this job to Clemenza )

Look at Sistanis face.!! You dont get to be where he is without being both very very intelligent and very very dangerous to cross. That isnt Harry Reid you are looking at. This guy is bad news unless you are as smooth and devious as he is. He wont swerve and step aside for anybody. And that's a Turban on his head.

Posted by Angleton9 2008-07-12 09:51|| 2008-07-12 09:51|| Front Page Top

#3 What's the arab word for "secular"?

Posted by Spereque Panda4751 2008-07-12 10:19|| 2008-07-12 10:19|| Front Page Top

#4 Seems to be "Sharia".

Posted by gorb 2008-07-12 11:42|| 2008-07-12 11:42|| Front Page Top

#5 I don't believe the story. Sistani has been "credited" with saying all kinds of things by the meida, most recently that he had encouraged 'resistance' by the JAM. Then his guys have to come out and say it is all bullshit.

It is not Sistani's style to tell the government what it has to do. Let me do some research on this article, I smell Iran's stinking hand in this report.

Posted by crosspatch 2008-07-12 13:37|| 2008-07-12 13:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Oh, here it is right here in the stuff that was posted:

A spokesman for Al Sistani said, however, he did not interfere with the details of the agreement such as a specific timetable. All he did was to call on the Iraqi Government to commit itself to the principle of sovereignty and national independence in any agreement with the Americans, the leader of the Shiite Islamic Council, Hamid Muala Al Saedi, told Gulf News.

Sources in Najaf told Gulf News Al Sistani told national security advisor Muwaffaq Al Rubaie when the latter visited him days ago that Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki must remember that the national independence of Iraq should be non-negotiable in Iraqi-US talks.

So what Sistani REALLY said was that Iraqi sovereignty must be respected. That sounds to be like something completely reasonable for him to say. And that is in character with what he has said in the past.

Looks like someone trying to make a tempest in a teapot.

Posted by crosspatch 2008-07-12 13:43|| 2008-07-12 13:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Are you suggesting the MSM creates stories out of whole cloth rather than meticulously reporting only the facts available?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-07-12 14:52|| 2008-07-12 14:52|| Front Page Top

#8 way to go al, baby. After being a p*ssy for the better part of 5 years, you open your holy pie-hole. That's after 4000 Coalition soldiers/marines have died, and countless Iraqis. You worthless p*ssy...crawl in hole and die. (not that I have an opinion)

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2008-07-12 15:46|| 2008-07-12 15:46|| Front Page Top

#9 This is Iranian agitprop to discredit Sistani : he has been working behind the scenes for years, dragging the Shia politicians into agreements to make the country run for the benefit of the Iraqi people. He is effectively the Shia Pope for the majority of the Arab Shia world, and he has been trying to get the politicians to shake hands and do deals so that the reconstruction of Iraq can progress.
He is NOT an Iranian puppet, that is why the Iranians setup Tater and his Tots as the "Shia resistance". Remember, the militia that Sistani controlled was one of the first groups to get rolled into the Iraqi Army and Police, and have been among the most loyal and effective units in those forces. Only the Kurdish units have proven to be better, and the Peshmerga had 10 years of quiet training by US Special Forces and Israeli mercenaries.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2008-07-12 18:08|| 2008-07-12 18:08|| Front Page Top

#10 Thank you, crosspatch and Shieldwolf. And for your perspective, Angleton9. The Press can get so carried away when they've got a meme by the throat.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-07-12 18:13|| 2008-07-12 18:13|| Front Page Top

#11 That's an old picture; the geeze looks even more decrepit today.

Posted by Cliting Panda8382 2008-07-12 18:13|| 2008-07-12 18:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Sistani is a reluctant ally - he truly wants us out, but not at the price of anarchy or Iranian theocracy.

A spokesman for Al Sistani said, however, he did not interfere with the details of the agreement such as a specific timetable.

Read that again and again. This article is crap - its Iranian trobulemaking.

The headline and statement that Sistani wants a timetable is a LIE - parroted by liberals in the press that want to justify Obama's policies.

Don't fall for it.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-12 22:20|| 2008-07-12 22:20|| Front Page Top

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