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2005-11-20 Europe

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Posted by anonymous5089 2005-11-20 09:32|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Two points:

1) About colonialiam: the push to colonization at end of XIXth century was made explicitly (or at least that was the argument used to convince the european citizens) for stopping Arab slave trade. And in fact colonial troops went into combat with slave traders.

2) DieudonnÃ© (who is a black) spends his time talking about the poooooor oppressed palestinians, but he (a black... in theory) hasn't uttered a single word about Darfur and South Soudan. Is Farrakan playing the same game?

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-11-20 14:14|| 2005-11-20 14:14|| Front Page Top

#2 "Moreover, there's a contradiction here. Because if these suburbs [banlieues] were truly in a state of total neglect, there wouldn't be any gymnasiums to torch, there wouldn't be schools and buses. If there are gymnasiums and schools and buses, it's because someone made an effort. Maybe not enough of one, but an effort."

Funny how no one wants to notice this glaring little fact. Excellent point made by the author.

Posted by Zenster 2005-11-20 14:20|| 2005-11-20 14:20|| Front Page Top

#3 The question isn't what is the best model of integration, but just what sort of integration can be achieved with people who hate you."

Hatred is blinding and therefore ignorant--it is all-encompassing and will not permit integration. The question is: "What does a society do in the face of hatred and the intent to destroy your culture?"

At some point you have to deal with the lawlessness. You can't continually keep apologizing for the problems of some group that hates you. This is not just a problem of France but one of the West. "Political correctness" and multiculturalism have been apotheosized to a deity. PC explains everything and solves nothing. Indeed, PC aggravates the existing problems.

Posted by FredFrothingslosh IV 2005-11-20 14:58|| 2005-11-20 14:58|| Front Page Top

#4 We are witness to an Islamic radicalization that must be explained in its entirety before we get to the French case, to a culture that, instead of dealing with its problems, searches for an external guilty party. It's easier to find an external guilty party.

This is, in a nutshell, why Judeo/Christian cultures succeed and others fail.

The basis of Islam and our current pack of liberals is to assign blame. Any sin or injustice need only be assigned to "another" and the problem is solved.

Posted by 2b 2005-11-20 19:14|| 2005-11-20 19:14|| Front Page Top

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