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2005-01-23 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Iran has broken Western alliance against its nuclear activities: analyst

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Posted by Fred 2005-01-23 10:27:34 PM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 A brilliant tactical maneuver: this Iranian is trying to recast Iran's nuclear drive in purely nationalist terms: he presents Iran's deceptions and nuclear march as a sign of national "scientific progress" and a source of national pride.

This should be a warning to both Bush and the EU Dwarves. The goal here should be to enable the Iranian democratic opposition by every means at our disposal, accelerate the overthrow of the mullahs, and do so in a way that emphasizes our solidarity with Iranian democratic nationalism. Bush should signal that we have no problems with a nuclear Iran, provided that such an Iran be governed by the people, not fascistic bloodthirsty mullahs determined to obliterate Israel and to strangle Iraqi democracy.

Posted by lex 2005-01-23 12:20:55 AM|| 2005-01-23 12:20:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Lex, while I like your aims and clear understanding of the widespread nationalism of Iranians, it would seem we are approaching a fork in the road.

For very pragmatic reasons, we cannot allow a nuclear Iran and the probability of an overwhelming democratic revolt in advance of the theocracy govern nuclear Iran is remote.

The sands in the hour glass are running low, a democratic coup is not probable any time soon, and a theocracy with nukes is virtually certain in arguably a year to year and a half.

Posted by Captain America 2005-01-23 12:58:07 AM|| 2005-01-23 12:58:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Then the only feasible option is to let the Israelis do the dirty work. So be it.

Posted by lex 2005-01-23 1:06:23 AM|| 2005-01-23 1:06:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 The green ones, are fascists for openspace.
The aqua ones, are fascists for whale watching.

Posted by raise your hand 2005-01-23 1:16:57 AM|| 2005-01-23 1:16:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Let's be clear. A theocratically ran Iran with nukes is the equivalent of giving prominent terrorist groups nuke weaponry. Bush Doctrine warns of the nexus between terrorists and WMD. Now, how many al Qaeda are in Iran?

Posted by Captain America 2005-01-23 1:37:26 AM|| 2005-01-23 1:37:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Yes,yes. Europeans are a valuable allies.

Posted by gromgorru 2005-01-23 11:31:17 AM|| 2005-01-23 11:31:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 What "Western alliance" against Iran's nuclear activities?

D'ya think they mean us, the Aussies, the Israelis, and (maybe) the Brits?

The continental Euros aren't against it; they want to sell Iran equipment. And they not-so-secretly hope Iran will nuke Israel and the US.

Guess they think the Iranian nuclear crocodile will eat them last....

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2005-01-23 11:39:58 AM|| 2005-01-23 11:39:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Barbara, it seems to me the Euro thinking on the matter goes something like, "Well, we wouldn't nuke Iran, so why would they nuke us? Whereas that horrible Bush wants to attack them. Q.E.D." They honestly don't seem to have got as far as hungry crocodiles. Not high level thinking in my opinion, but then I'm American, too. ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2005-01-23 2:51:00 PM|| 2005-01-23 2:51:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The Germans are desperate to increase exports. The high euro is killing any chance for economic growth in Germany and France this year. The only "negotiation" here is the terms which the Iranians will dictate to the EU3. It's the Iranians who are holding out the carrot, not the EU3.

Posted by lex 2005-01-23 4:24:57 PM|| 2005-01-23 4:24:57 PM|| Front Page Top

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