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2004-11-09 Home Front: Culture Wars
Secession Movement Gains Steam
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Posted by tipper 2004-11-09 9:12:02 AM|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Last time somebody tried to leave they got blockaded and had their cities burned down. I wonder how long San Francisco or Boston would last with no food, water, or electricity.

Let's find out. Go for it, morons.
Posted by Laurence of the Rats  2004-11-09 9:15:47 AM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/]  2004-11-09 9:15:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Insanity, pure insanity!
Posted by RJB in JC MO 2004-11-09 9:30:25 AM||   2004-11-09 9:30:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Boston should have to repay the US for the Big Dig
Posted by Frank G  2004-11-09 9:53:53 AM||   2004-11-09 9:53:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Yet another issue that was settled by war. You can join but you cannot leave. Se, er... 1865 for an example.

Soon to appear: Tommy Franks' March to the Sea?
Posted by Chuck Simmins  2004-11-09 10:03:26 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org]  2004-11-09 10:03:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hopefully a few prominent Dems will openly advocate this course of action. We'll have a Republican majority for decades if that happens.
Posted by AzCat 2004-11-09 10:06:56 AM||   2004-11-09 10:06:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I look forward to seeing how future history books will cover Col. Steve's march to the Pacific Ocean.
Posted by BH 2004-11-09 10:17:02 AM||   2004-11-09 10:17:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Ya the Army of Michael Moore with Jabba in the front lines. Biff bam. take that you rebel.
Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-11-09 10:40:39 AM||   2004-11-09 10:40:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 The Army of Steve vs The Moore Horde.

Sounds like the most exciting 17 seconds of combat in history.
Posted by Laurence of the Rats  2004-11-09 10:42:27 AM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/]  2004-11-09 10:42:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 I'd prefer a march to the Gulf of St Lawrence. The tough part is which to burn, Quebec or Boston.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-11-09 10:51:37 AM||   2004-11-09 10:51:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Hehehe... It reminds me of the pictures of the protesters with the signs, "Can we seceded yet?" and "F**k middle America". My response, "Hey, guys. Before making yourself even more of an ass, remember which side has all the guns. Hint, it ain't yours.."
Posted by mmurray821 2004-11-09 10:52:41 AM||   2004-11-09 10:52:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 The south keeping the north in the union?? Holy irony batman. Bedford Forest is turning in his grave.
Posted by Jarhead 2004-11-09 10:56:54 AM||   2004-11-09 10:56:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 I would allow for peaceful secession if enough of a states population voted for it, and the state agreed to take on their proper share of the national debt.

That won't happen of course, they want it all. They can go to Canada or New Zealand if they want, but they can't expect to take away california without a fight.
Posted by rjschwarz  2004-11-09 11:44:05 AM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com]  2004-11-09 11:44:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 I made this same point on a different comment group yesterday about this subject : most of the supposedly Blue states are only Blue in the urban areas. Outside of Multnomah County, Oregon is almost all red. And if seige warfare proves anything, it proves that cities are hell during a seige. I know of no major American urban area that has more than one week's worth of food on hand, none that have the majority of their freshwater needs met internally, nor any that have independent power generation to meet their needs.
End result : Stalingrad without the happy ending.
Posted by Chinese Unomotch9553 2004-11-09 11:57:56 AM||   2004-11-09 11:57:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Siege warfare has evolved quite a bit actually. Global Security covered MOUT quite well in the run up to the Iraq war. Also, see comment by mmurray821.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-11-09 12:41:20 PM||   2004-11-09 12:41:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 And if seige warfare proves anything, it proves that cities are hell during a seige.

Not if the defenders are weaponsless pussies.
Posted by BH 2004-11-09 12:42:00 PM||   2004-11-09 12:42:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 The Bonnie Blue State Flag:

We are a bunch of tranzis
We hate American soil
We're not fighting for the liberty
Earned by soldiers' toil

And when Osama called us
The cry went near and far:
Hurrah for the Blue State Flag
There's just no need for war.
Posted by Matt 2004-11-09 12:56:13 PM||   2004-11-09 12:56:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 It will be interesting: Alabamans and Georgians under the United States flag fighting Bostonians and New Yorkers carrying the Confederate flag. And a few decades after the Rebs are crushed, a New York woman writes a novel "Gone with the Winds". Hint: In French to have winds is what hapopens after eating beans.
Posted by JFM  2004-11-09 1:30:04 PM||   2004-11-09 1:30:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Don't you mean, "Bostonians and New Yorkers under the U.N. flag"?
Posted by AzCat 2004-11-09 1:51:15 PM||   2004-11-09 1:51:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 No I meant the Confederate Flag. Having a reverse civil war would be amusing. And of course, the good guys, ie the Union, win.
Posted by JFM  2004-11-09 2:17:46 PM||   2004-11-09 2:17:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 What if we kick them out? Can we do that? ;)

Posted by Desert Blondie 2004-11-09 3:18:40 PM||   2004-11-09 3:18:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 They're not seceding, but they are shrinking. When the county-by-county results are analyzed, I'm sure we'll see that Bush carried more or less the same counties he did in 2000. It's just that those red counties are growing, many of them (esp in Colorado, Nevada, other southwestern states, also North Carolina and other boomtown sunbelt locales) at a rapid rate, while the old economy urban areas and blue counties are losing population.

It would be unbelievably stupid for the Dems to bet on the rustbelt and the inner cities instead of the high-growth suburbs/ex-urbs and the sunbelt. But hey, they nominated Kerry, didn't they?
Posted by lex 2004-11-09 3:25:34 PM||   2004-11-09 3:25:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Let's be serious, if memory serves the blue states are filled with pacifists? I'd love to see the rioting in the steets. No war for secession! No war for Canada!
Posted by rjschwarz  2004-11-09 5:07:11 PM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com]  2004-11-09 5:07:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Blue Staters, Welcome to the Hotel California!
Posted by A Jackson 2004-11-09 6:41:18 PM||   2004-11-09 6:41:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Damn Matt! Way good!
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-09 6:54:03 PM||   2004-11-09 6:54:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Aigh!, My Eyes! Who put that up there?!?!?!
Posted by Asedwich  2004-11-09 7:58:38 PM||   2004-11-09 7:58:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 CAUTION: I noticed a (Thomas) DiLorenzo name was mentioned at the bottom of the posting, in terms of his so-called "masterful expose of Lincoln" (?)

DiLorenzo is directly tied in with the most rabid neo-Confederate-KKK organizations that mask their true cause of blind hate for anyone whom they classify as a 'Yankee'. These bastards would have loved slavery to continue. DiLorenzo is NOT a conservative, but a bigot. He peddles his real hate within his own circles and a watered down version for the general public. If anything, he should be viewed crafty clone of David Duke. Example; on August 24th, of 2004 he quoted this source "Alleged Ku Klux Outrages" for his new version of post Civil War 'history', stating those in KKK were only defending themselves and he displayed two large photos of the KKK.themselves. This element even has their own coded lingo between themselves in publications & on the internet.

Remedy: If the leftist losers want to run away to Canada , good, take the DiLorenzo types with them. That would really clean up this nation.

Those true conservatives & I am one, which greatly assisted in re-electing President Bush do not need the likes of anyone in the forefront of the 'masked' Southern-KKK secessionist movement flying their 'Confederate' flag.

DiLorenzo's photo in link
Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-09 10:16:37 PM|| [http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/tom3.jpg]  2004-11-09 10:16:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Lex is right. The LLL want to seceed because of their "shrinkage." LOL!

Matt---the parody of the Bonnie Blue Flag is a classic!
Posted by Alaska Paul  2004-11-09 10:28:20 PM||   2004-11-09 10:28:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 If California wishes to secede, I don't have a problem with that. Just give me ample notice of the official date so I can be long gone by then, never to return.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-11-10 12:04:45 AM||   2004-11-10 12:04:45 AM|| Front Page Top

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