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-Short Attention Span Theater-
When a Tinfoil Hat Just Isn't Enough
Posted by: Mercutio || 11/09/2004 15:10 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Arabia
Sorcerers continue to have a field day
DUBAI — Sorcery has been in a widespread use today with Democrats women constituting the largest number of victims. They are mostly those who suffer from marital problems, a disease or long to be elected President get married. And imagine that these sorcerers can solve their problems.
One born every minute ...
Sorcerers — and conjurers — are usually intelligent, cunning and tactful. They take advantage of the psychological weakness of those who come to them and convince them of their ability to solve their problems, no matter how big or small they might seem. They convince them that a spell must be broken and that they're the right person for the job. Eventually, they would give their victims an amulet to safeguard them or to fulfill their hopes and aspirations (either to get at least 270 electoral college votes a husband or to regain a lost or unfaithful one, or worse still to gain easy money).
Why not just use tarot cards?
The naive fall easily for these outrageous tricks and spend a lot of money in vain. However, when they realise they have been duped, they refrain from reporting the unfortunate incident to the police out of embarrassment, thus leaving the scoundrels free to continue their trade.
"Yes, go on, Mr. Mahmoud, what happened next?"
The Ministry of Interior has continuously warned against such villains. A total of 1,221 fraud crimes occurred last year, 128 of which took place in Abu Dhabi, 572 in Dubai, 322 in Sharjah, 113 in Ajman, 80 in Ras Al Khaima, 3 in Umm Al Quwain, and 3 in Al Fujaira, a statistics study conducted by the public department for criminal security reported.
"Terry McAuliffe, you have a call on line 5."
Posted by: Steve White || 11/09/2004 12:49:15 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
Sorry, Santa's grotto go
BOSSES have banned Santa from a shopping centre - in case he offends non-Christians. The Scrooges struck at Birmingham's famous Bullring. A spokeswoman said: "We wish to be sensitive to people of other religions over the festive period. There are a lot of people in the region who are not Christians and do not celebrate Christmas."

James Lovell, of Santa training school the Ministry of Fun, said: "This is a great shame, as Santa is for everyone, regardless of religion." The Sun launched a Don't Sack Santa campaign yesterday after stores on London's Oxford Street also snubbed Father Christmas. Mean shop chiefs reckon he takes up too much room. SANTA will also be missing from these shopping centres: Brent Cross, North London; Buchanan Galleries, Glasgow; Swansgate Centre, Wellingborough, Northants; Clayton Square, Liverpool; Prospect Centre, Bradford; Whitgift Centre, Croydon; Oracle Centre, Reading, Berks; Merry Hill Centre, Dudley, West Midlands.
Posted by: tipper || 11/09/2004 9:27:16 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How 'bout if we Christmas shoppers go elsewhere for our annual buying of stuff? Wouldn't want to offend the non-Christians with our wanton shopping.
Posted by: BH || 11/09/2004 10:05 Comments || Top||

#2  So, the Brits are banning Santa under the auspices of not wanting to offend non-Christians, specifically. Wouldn't want to do that, now would we? Santa, after all, is SO bloody offensive this time of year. These man on the street interviews reveal more . . .

Joe-blow Islamic: "Santa is against the jihad. He keeps everybody in good spirits--especially the children. This takes their mind off jihad. Death to Santa. England cannot go on offending its Moslem population like this. It is a disgrace. It is unacceptable. It is against the Koran. Anything even remotely associated with the Christian faith must be excised from the land! We will replace Santa with Martyr Man. He will be dressed in white with the red blood of the martyrs of the jihad, and will collect money for Islamic charities--which the English also have ignored for far too long--something we can never forgive. In fact, Christmas should be banned altogether--no lights, no singing, no egg nog, no plum pudding, no merrymaking. Even the "secular festivities" must go, because the roots of the secular celebrations have their roots in that which offends us--the celebration of the Nativity of the Son of God. And no churches either! Do this, and we will not be offended. Do this and you will live."

Joe-blow Carnal Pagan: "Well, I hate Santa because in some ways he is a representative of a system that suggests personal and moral accountability regarding myself and my duties to my fellow man. I don't need Santa to be a good person. Fuck Santa. Fuck all he stands for. Fuck the Christians. I'm offended by Santa Claus and his Christian geeks. I don't want to see him around here anymore. Shut up. I gotta go get laid."

Joe-blow Academic Deconstructionist Pagan: "Santa Claus should be eliminated in all forms from both the pubic and private sectors because he symbolizes a forced patriarchal structure of morality that supports only the most base drives--drives which are much too closely associated with conservative values. To make political and humanitarian progress in the world, and to assure that able globalist rulers ascend to govern the masses (who cannot govern themselves--note the recent election of G.W. Bush in America as proof), we absolutely must abandon the outmoded faith of Christianity. And we should work very diligently to destroy the remnants of its forms and cultural memory among the people. Santa Claus is only one of these forms. Father Christmas should be replaced with the Goddess, who has been revered, historically, throughout the ages prior to the advent of the brutal Christian religion. Supporting traditional infant sacrifice is one way we all can begin this much needed change in service of the Goddess."

Joe-blow Indian: "I don't mind Santa. I think Santa is actually the cousin of Krishna, twice removed. There is room for Santa in our religion. We must change his outfit, though, because it would be too hot for the weather of paradise. And besides that, he is supposed to look like a blue elephant with necklaces of flowers. I'm sure if we make these changes, no one will be offended."

Posted by: ex-lib || 11/09/2004 10:38 Comments || Top||

#3  None of this "Joy through Toys" nonsense! Our children will start laughing and playing and running underfoot! He makes Martians into Martianmallows! We remember the Naqba of 1964! -- Voldar
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 11/09/2004 11:26 Comments || Top||

#4  Yikes ex-lib! Classic!
Posted by: Shipman || 11/09/2004 12:22 Comments || Top||

#5  It's time that Christians tell everyone else to STFU and practice some of the sensitivity and tolerance they demand. If they can't then they should go back to where their particular brand of BS is practiced and leave us alone. Christians have allowed themselves to become fair game for everybody with too much time on their hands and a proclivity to be offended by our existence. The majority shouldn't be made to suffer because of the "sensitivities" of minorities. Most of the religious "difficulties" in this country come from the subsidy to the ACLU in all suits against various levels of government about separation of church and state. Every time an ACLU lawyer gets hungry, he files a frivolous suit against some government agency about a cross on a city seal or a cross in a war memorial in a public cemetery and makes the government compensate him for his time. If tolerance doesn't become a two-way street, eventually enough people will become aggravated enough to practice mutual intolerance and it won't be pretty.
Posted by: RWV || 11/09/2004 12:41 Comments || Top||

#6  stupid europeans...the start of the end of christian europe? doesn't multiculurism mean just that? multi, to accept all faiths? the euros have dug a very big grave that i do not think they can crawl out of...
Posted by: Dan || 11/09/2004 12:53 Comments || Top||

#7  This is stupid -- I love all the Christmassy stuff...loved singing carols in the school choir, and even joined some friends singing around the neighborhood one year. And then I love going home to celebrate my own holiday.

There just should be room in the public square for all faiths (including Atheism, should they so desire) to celebrate their own winter holidays. What's the big deal? You believing one thing does not preclude me believing another -- this is hypersensitivity run amok.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/09/2004 14:19 Comments || Top||

#8  I'm with you TW. Altho I'm open minded and all, I still think we need to pay more attention to the Mullet Run. Which is the big way of saying the fish God loves us.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/09/2004 18:48 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
HIV Among Mexican Migrant Workers 3 Times as High as General U.S., Mexican Populations
...However, the two studies indicate that "HIV infection is potentially on the threshold of rapid increase in this population," Lemp said, adding, "If behavior change doesn't occur and there is no intervention, then we would expect some exponential growth in the number of people infected." Lemp said that if public health officials do not "devote considerable resources" to tracking infections and educating the Mexican public about HIV/AIDS, Mexico could "rapidly become the next India or China," where the pandemic is "raging out of control," according to the Times. In addition, the increase in HIV prevalence among migrant workers "echo[es] the skyrocketing [prevalence] rates among Latinos overall," the Times reports...
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/09/2004 9:23:53 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Intervention - we'll intervene and send them home.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/09/2004 11:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Mexican machismo prevents many bisexual men from disclosing their status. If they're the "pitcher" and not the "catcher", then they're not gay...stupid semantics, but that's the societal rule
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2004 11:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Not just Mexicans...its the same in the Middle East.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/09/2004 14:14 Comments || Top||


Brazilian Troops to Remain in Haiti
Brazilian U.N. peacekeepers will remain in Haiti until presidential elections are held in that Caribbean nation sometime next year, President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said Monday. Brazil has kept 1,200 soldiers in Haiti since May as part of a multilateral U.N. force, whose original mandate of six months is expected to be extended for another 12 months. Silva defended the presence of Brazilian troops in Haiti and made a veiled criticism of the role played by U.S. troops in areas of conflict. ``If we were not there (in Haiti), then American troops would (be in Haiti), doing what Brazilian soldiers would never do, for our mandate is not to act as a police force but as an ineffective a peacekeeping force,'' Silva said at the ceremony. He said the troops would remain in Haiti ``until next year, when that country holds elections for president and a government.''
Which will look like the previous president and government.
According to a U.N. resolution in April, the multinational force, which is under Brazil's command and currently totals some 5,000 troops, should have 6,600 soldiers and 1,600 police. Other nations that have sent troops to Haiti include Chile, Argentina, Peru El Salvador China and Spain.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/09/2004 11:51:43 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What? Did one of Lula's cronies steal their return fare?
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/09/2004 9:56 Comments || Top||

#2  What a cheap crack AC.

Naturally I'm saving it.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/09/2004 18:49 Comments || Top||

#3  I think there should be a truth-in-advertising sign at all Haitian ports of entry:
"Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."
GFL, Brazil.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/09/2004 20:29 Comments || Top||

#4  WOW...Whew!!! For a minute there, I thought sure the 125 Chinese troops would leave in protest!
Posted by: smn || 11/09/2004 22:13 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
China denies plans for war with Japan (Lol! Right!)
China's foreign ministry rejected reports from Japan Tuesday saying China had prepared three separate plans for armed conflict with Japan. Spokeswoman Zhang Qiyue responded to a Japanese agency's question by saying, "We have already noted them and are severely concerned. As to what basis such reports are based on, I think you need to ask the Japanese side why they are sending these kind of signals," Zhang said "They are completely unfounded and completely unreasonable." Zhang said Chinese development and growth will not threaten any other country and rejects efforts to play up the "China Threat." She said she hopes "responsible authorities will discard their cold war mentality and take relevant measures to promote peace and development in the Asia-Pacific region and the world at large."
Posted by: .com || 11/09/2004 8:06:51 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Translation: China wants a Nuclear-Armed Samurai Free Zone...

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 11/09/2004 9:13 Comments || Top||

#2  I am not surprised. The US has a plan for a war with Britian. Every country in the world has a war plan for every other country. The US has officers draw up plans just in case they are needed. The greener the officer, the friendlier country given. It allows the officer to get some experiance in the planning, and allows a plan to be in place if, allah forbid, we ever have to break it out. I bet the officers in charge of making a plan for Japan in China were in the top 1/3 of the officer pool, since there is a decent chance that if the balloon went up in the pacific, Japan would be a military player.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 11/09/2004 10:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Cold war mentality?

How about centuries?????
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/09/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#4  OOhh, don't go there! A fully resolved Japan and a fully capable US as Ally, would again give the Chinese their third defeat in 100 years. The 'Chi-Coms' need to put that plan back on the bottom shelf and re cover it with dust!
Posted by: smn || 11/09/2004 11:26 Comments || Top||


Europe
The insanity that the Euros are indoctrinated with...
You really need to read the whole thing, but here are some choice quotes from this transcript of a Belgian news program analyzing our elections...

CX: We have to be mindfull what we say, but are they a bit retarded? When I hear they don't accept the theory of evolution... Some at least.

...

VW: What I also found surprising is that there were so many people who got their information from the internet. Are good newspapers not available everywhere in the U.S. then?

AW: No, not really. You have seen the large middle part of America that went largely for Bush, and that is also where print-media is not wel represented. The "good" newspapers are on the coasts: the LA Times, the Washington Post, the NY Times. And those are not spread in the middle, except if you have a special subscription. So most newspapers are local products, made with things from the wire services like Reuters or AP and now and then a NYT article. But people don't read "the big news".

...

DG: Look, we've had this discussion four years ago about counting votes. Back then everybody wondered how it was possible in such a developed country that is at the top of technology that they couldn't count votes. And now they almost had the same thing in Ohio. That shows the two sides of America: on the one side an incredibly developed society, cosmopolitan, on the forefront of technology and next to that you have a large number of Americans that live very rurally, who still live from agriculture, are turned inwards and for who the outside world hardly exists.

...

AW: America changed a lot during the past 20 years. Demographically speaking there has been a shift. Among other things, in my day when I lived there, the African-Americans were the biggest minority group and now the Latino's are a bigger group than the African Americans. They now make up 14% and the African-Americans only 12%. The white American is more and more under pressure. The scared white man is a reality in the U.S. He now really is a minority compared to all the other ethnic groups that have come in during the last 20 years. Every year more than one million immigrants come to the U.S.

I could go on but you get the point. Read the rest... these people are really deranged...
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 11/09/2004 9:19:09 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You mean Belgains don't live from agriculture? They eat plastic and stuff? They must be highly evolved.

Latinos are "white." Last time I checked their isn't a seperater race called "Latino" anymore than their is one called "french". On top of that they self identify as white.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/09/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||

#2  ...on the one side an incredibly developed society, cosmopolitan, on the forefront of technology and next to that you have a pissing statue.

Yeah I know the frustration. Yup.
Posted by: Rafael || 11/09/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||

#3  "...you have a large number of Americans that live very rurally, who still live from agriculture, are turned inwards and for who the outside world hardly exists."

The real people I've known from rural areas (rather than the imaginary people this leftie twit is referring to) are actually turned OUTWARD much more than the urban folk I'm familiar with, and are much MORE aware of the world beyond their own horizons. These people read a lot, and travel a lot. (My Iowa Connection says there's a simple reason for this: farming is boring, so intellectual pursuits compensate.)
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/09/2004 21:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Let's see, Belgium? Isn't that the country whose Supreme Court just outlawed the largest political party in the country for being racist because it opposed immigration? Isn't that the country terminally split between the Flemish and Walloons? Belgium, isn't that one of those little postage stamp countries that hasn't mattered to anyone since the middle ages? Isn't that the little piss-ant country whose people are so sophisticated that they think they are qualified to judge everyone but themselves? Who cares what these losers think about anything?
Posted by: RWV || 11/09/2004 22:49 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Canadian sub crew at fault for fire
An investigation into a fire on a former British submarine that killed a Canadian sailor will blame the crew, according to reports. The Royal Canadian Navy board of inquiry will say they left open hatches that should have been closed. This allowed water to reach the battery compartment, causing a short circuit. A souce told the Mail on Sunday: "It's a mystery as why the submarine was on the surface. "She should have been underwater in those conditions. This looks like a simple case of a drill being carried out."

It happened as HMCS Chicoutini was sailing through heavy seas on its maiden voyage from Scotland to Nova Scotia. The vessel caught fire last month west of Ireland days after it was handed over to the Canadian navy. Formerly HMS Upholder, the sub was one of four bought by the Canadian government from Britain for £244m. There were suggestions she had not been refitted properly and that the Canadian Navy could sue Britain for damages.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/09/2004 12:12:56 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bullshit. The sub was running "opened up". There is only one person who makes the decision to do that and that's the captain. Unless by crew they mean the captain. Why the captain would do this in heavy seas is the more serious question (though someone said it's not unusual).
Posted by: Rafael || 11/09/2004 1:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe the Captain assumed that the boat was the submarine equivilant of the Sea King SAR helicopters and he figured that if they submerged they had little chance of coming back up
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/09/2004 5:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Another reason this is bull,when seawater reaches the acid in batteries it pumps out massive amounts of chlorine gas.But all they mention is a fire caused by the batteries shorting out.
Posted by: raptor || 11/09/2004 7:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Seawater is conductive. If it soaked the right electric distribution panel, then the panel and the connected batteries will short circuit, and can cause a fire in the distribution panel and batteries.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2004 9:51 Comments || Top||

#5  gotta close the damn screen door!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2004 10:04 Comments || Top||

#6  Always close the door after a good smoke. Hey, what were you guys smoking anyway?

Posted by: Johnnie Bartlette || 11/09/2004 12:01 Comments || Top||

#7  Look's like no refund from "Subs R' Us".
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/09/2004 21:07 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Traumatized Kerry supporters in Florida seek therapy: report
The Good News keeps on comin'. "Doc, I just... don't know what to do!!!"
Shocked supporters of defeated US presidential candidate John Kerry are seeking help from psychologists, who refer to their condition as "post-election selection trauma." The Boca Raton News reported Tuesday that Palm Beach, Florida trauma specialist Douglas Schooler alone has already treated 15 clients and friends with intense hypnotherapy since the Democratic candidate conceded on November 3.
I wannna kill, doc...
"I had one friend tell me he's never been so depressed and angry in his life," Schooler said. "I observed patients threatening to leave the country or staring listlessly into space. They were emotionally paralyzed, shocked and devastated," he told the daily.
...and I'm raking it in hand over fist!
"We're calling it 'post-election selection trauma' and we're working to develop a counseling program for it," said Rob Gordon, the Boca Raton-based executive director of the American Health Association.
Wonder if Kerry's got it? Wonder if he'll put in for another Purple Heart?
"It's like post-traumatic stress syndrome, but it's a short-term shock rather than a childhood trauma," he told the daily.
...and a gravy train for us. Step right up, Wussies!
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/09/2004 5:27:58 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "We’re calling it ’post-election selection trauma’..."

Hmmm... Post-Election Selection Trauma-- or PEST for short. I like it.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/09/2004 18:35 Comments || Top||

#2  LOl DD... ROFLMAO! quick eyer-balls there.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/09/2004 18:56 Comments || Top||

#3  "I observed patients threatening to leave the country or staring listlessly into space. They were emotionally paralyzed, shocked and devastated," he told the daily.

And this is different from before in what way?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/09/2004 19:06 Comments || Top||

#4  "I observed patients threatening to leave the country or staring listlessly into space. They were emotionally paralyzed, shocked and devastated," he told the daily.

Welcome to democracy ... and blow me
Posted by: MacNails || 11/09/2004 19:09 Comments || Top||

#5  I had four co-workers opine that they wish to leave the country after this election was "stolen." I offered to help them plan, pack, and move but they simply walked away grumbling. They knew I would hear them and they can't miss my Bush/Cheney 04 stickers, so I thought they wanted my help with their problem. Seems all they want to do is rant and not accept the results. ;-)
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/09/2004 21:34 Comments || Top||

#6  What a bunch of pussies, guys are actually going through the real deal in the M.E. and these cry babies can't handle the results of a democratic election. I can't believe these people are my fellow countrymen - simply shameful. Get over it losers or please move the hell out - we don't need mental cowards like you polluting the national gene pool.

Though I must admit, I'd love to be capitalizing on the cash these morons are shelling out for their treatment. Making money off their misery would make me well pleased - then persuade them to go to canada.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/09/2004 21:51 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm with you Jarhead. What a bunch of Girlie Men. (god I love that term).

The next thing you know they will want the depression classified as a disability so they can get SSI and other disability benefits -- all the better to suck off the public teat.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/09/2004 22:09 Comments || Top||


2004 Election Explained: Red state population increasing, Blue states declining
Don't have all the data, but these two maps, plus one killer data point, showing the county-by-county results from 2000 and 2004 most likely tells the story. In short, the red-blue split, by county, was almost exactly identical in 2004 to 2000 (with the notable exception of a few Florida Gulf Coast counties). In other words, the map remains the same as in 2000.

However, note one telling statistic above the 2000 map: "GROWTH IN 1990-1999 OF COUNTIES WON: Gore = 5%, Bush = 14%." Assuming that this trend continued in 200-2004, simply straightlining it over these four years yields growth in blue counties of ~2.2% and growth in red counties of ~6.2% for a net gain in votes of 4% by the red states, especially those in the southwest and Colorado. Assuming that turnout by Dems increased at roughly the same rate as turnout by Republicans, this would largely explain Bush's shift from being down 500,000 popular votes to winning by 3,500,000 popular votes.

Implication: the sunbelt rules, especially the high growth states like Florida, Colorado, and the other southwestern states. A party that, aside from the left coast, is competitive only in the declining rustbelt and northeast is a losing party.
Posted by: lex || 11/09/2004 2:33:13 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Taranto's Roe Effect?
Posted by: BH || 11/09/2004 15:25 Comments || Top||

#2  The wacky lefties in large metro areas are driving non-lefties away. I myself can barely tolerate being so close to SF. If it weren't for the friends I have here and the decent-paying job I have (high-tech engineering), I'd have left long ago.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/09/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||

#3  No, it's the New Economy effect, combined with refugees from f*cked-up high-tax anti-business blue states like California.

Which states are growing rapidly and will continue to grow rapidly over the next four years? Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico. All of these went for Bush, and all are tied to hgih-growth new economy employers. Other high-growth states include Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia. Again, all of these are weighted increasingly toward new economy and service jobs, and all went for Bush. Only Washington State breaks this rule.

Which states are shrinking and will continue to shrink over the next four years? The high-tax, low-growth states dominated by our industrial dinosaurs: Michigan, Pennsylvania, Illinois, New Jersey, New York. Bush won Ohio because of Columbus and the southern counties, which, like western suburbs of Chicago, are increasingly aligned toward pro-growth economic policies and which are attracting new companies and new employees.

Posted by: lex || 11/09/2004 15:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Bomb-a-rama, I'm sure with your skills you could get a good job in another beautiful tech-focused area that pays as well as your current one. Utah, Colorado, Texas Hill COuntry: all have outstanding tech companies and you can own a nice house there. I left the Peninsula a year ago and haven't looked back.
Posted by: lex || 11/09/2004 17:11 Comments || Top||

#5  There are things that even conservative Californians like myself would miss if we left here. Being a Native Son of the Golden West I refuse to be run out of my own state by a bunch of liberals that mostly wern't born here. It's too much fun screwing with them. We are slowlty taking the state back. I am all for turning the Bay area and LA area into city states as a solution. Look at the Red counties.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/09/2004 17:38 Comments || Top||

#6  Do not forget that part of the population growth is due to migration from other parts of the US. When blue staters move to a red state, they do not automatically adopt red state attitudes.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 11/09/2004 20:01 Comments || Top||

#7  true, angie, which is why most sunbelt cities are not the hotbeds of religious fervor that northern liberals suppose them to be. Seems pretty obvious that, in the future, the winning formula for the sunbelt will be more libertarian than lib or conserv.
Posted by: lex || 11/09/2004 21:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Here are some very cool maps showing states and counties by population, rather than physical size, and the "color" of counties based on percent red or blue (in other words, most are purplish). Click to enlarge.

Two surprising things to me:

1) There is a tiny, bright blue blob in the middle of the Mississippi River Valley. That's St. Louis. I was surprised at how it differed from the surroundings.

2) Using GIMP's color picker, I have determined that bluest California is not as blue as bluest northern New Mexico.

3) Furthermore, thanks to GIMP, I can reveal the bluest county in the country (within the limits of the map resolution). That honor goes to (may I have the envelope, please?):Buffalo County, South Dakota.

Yes, indeed, blue staters looking for the warm embrace of kindred spirits can go to beautiful Buffalo County, Population 2,032 souls (2000 census), nearly 82% of them Indians.

(I detect the odor of rat.)
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 11/09/2004 23:10 Comments || Top||

#9  Abortion.

Liberals have them, conservatives do not.

Middle class Families.

Conservatives have them, Liberals do not.

Long term married people - live longer.

Conservatives do, Liberals do not.

Regular churchgoers tend to live longer.

Conservatives do, Liberals do not.

Any wonder Conservatives are outnumbering Liberals?
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/09/2004 23:17 Comments || Top||

#10  OldSpook: my husband suggests that your comment beautifully demonstrates the application of Darwinism to Secular Humanism.
Posted by: mom || 11/09/2004 23:25 Comments || Top||


Democratic Party must be 'born again,' Carville says
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2004 12:32:28 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Smeagol ("Nassssty Republicanses, we hates them! We hates them forever!") having a "Come to Jesus" moment? I gotta see this!
Posted by: Mike || 11/09/2004 13:09 Comments || Top||

#2  What are the odds it gets Aborted along the way as the far leftist loons purge the insufficiently zealous.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 11/09/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#3  I can see it; Bill Clinton in a TV pulpit, Hillary and the Dixie chicks singing gospel backed up the the combined choirs of the NEA and SEIU, Terry McAuliffe and Snake Face himself taking the offering. Clinton walks down to the Amen corner where sit Soros, Babs Streisand and Michael Moore. Clinton lays on hands, blesses Moore and he arises, shouting, "I am healed. I can be reasonable and logical! I will tell the truth. Hallelujah!"

Nah. Never happen.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/09/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Hallelujah! Pass the snakes!
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2004 13:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Keep the snakes, Fred... just keep the popcorn coming. This is gonna be more fun to watch than the 4th Indiana Jones movie!
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 11/09/2004 15:25 Comments || Top||

#6  "These guys had a narrative — we're going to protect you from the terrorists in Tikrit and from the homos in Hollywood. That's it."

I'm sold. Where do I sign.
Oh, wait. I already did.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/09/2004 15:34 Comments || Top||

#7  you know a good snake grafic might be nice
Posted by: half || 11/09/2004 19:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Snapping Turtle head is more like it.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/09/2004 23:18 Comments || Top||

#9  Maybe a little picture of the One Ring?
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 11/09/2004 23:24 Comments || Top||

#10 

Probably more like the Firesign Theatre's "Powerhouse Church of the Presumptuous Assumption of the Blinding Light"

O Blinding Light
   O Light that Blinds
I Cannot See
   Look Out For Me!

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Posted by: Old Grouch || 11/09/2004 14:46 Comments || Top||

#11 

Probably more like the Firesign Theatre's "Powerhouse Church of the Presumptuous Assumption of the Blinding Light"

O Blinding Light
   O Light that Blinds
I Cannot See
   Look Out For Me!

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Posted by: Old Grouch || 11/09/2004 14:46 Comments || Top||

#12 

Probably more like the Firesign Theatre's Powerhouse Church of the Presumptuous Assumption of the Blinding Light:

O Blinding Light
   O Light that Blinds,
I Cannot See
   Look Out For Me!

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Posted by: Old Grouch || 11/09/2004 14:51 Comments || Top||

#13 

Probably more like the Firesign Theatre's Powerhouse Church of the Presumptuous Assumption of the Blinding Light:

O Blinding Light
   O Light that Blinds,
I Cannot See
   Look Out For Me!

------
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Posted by: Old Grouch || 11/09/2004 14:51 Comments || Top||


Howard Dean considering bid to chair Democratic Party
Former presidential candidate Howard Dean is considering a bid to become chairman of the national Democratic Party. Steve Grossman, himself a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said Dean had told him he was thinking about it. Dean was traveling today in New York and unavailable for comment. His spokeswoman, Laura Gross, said ``it was far too early to be speculating on that.'' The 240 members of the Democratic National Convention will elect a new chair early next year. Several names are already being mentioned, including former Clinton aide Harold Ickes; Donna Brazile, who ran Al Gore's presidential campaign, and Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack.
One word: "Yeeeeaaaarrrrgggghhhh!"
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2004 11:10:05 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  and maybe Mike Moore a vice chair

wouldn't that be special
Posted by: mhw || 11/09/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#2  This is more fun than a new puppy.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/09/2004 11:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Here is the latest in election returns, combining AP & FOX & CNN & State Election Websites

Link
Posted by: BigEd || 11/09/2004 13:04 Comments || Top||

#4  Carville is wondering how there could be 60.1 Million against him and only 56.6 with him...
Posted by: BigEd || 11/09/2004 13:06 Comments || Top||

#5  PLEASE, OH PLEASE LET IT BE SO!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/09/2004 13:28 Comments || Top||

#6  So, the Dems will end it all with a banzai charge in 2008.

That gives us 4 years to dig in and bore sight our weapons.

Pass the popcorn.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 11/09/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||

#7  Upon further reflection, this might not be such a bad idea for the Dems in general and for the Hildebeest’s chances in '08 in particular. Consider: if the moonbat wing of the Democratic party is still prominent by '08 she has no shot at all, the question then becomes how best to exorcise the moonbats in a timely manner.

It occurs to me that the ’06 midterms might provide the perfect opportunity. How better to exorcise the moonbats than to put the chief moonbat in charge and allow unelectable far-left candidates to be pushed in ’06? Following an ’06 bloodletting of historic proportions there would quite literally be no one other than Bill & the Hildebeest left to pick up the pieces on the left.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/09/2004 19:07 Comments || Top||


Rhode Island Senator to Stay Republican
Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee, who flirted with changing political parties in the wake of President Bush's re-election victory, says he will stay in the GOP. "My Republican colleagues have let me know that they want me in their caucus," the Rhode Island senator said Monday. "They value the voice I bring and they have made it very clear to me that they respect and want that voice to be heard." Chafee had said last week he would consider switching party affiliation if Bush won because he felt the president was taking the party too far to the right. He said he got a flurry of phone calls from Republican leaders over the weekend, including Senate Majority Whip Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and a key White House staff member, urging him to stick with the GOP.

A moderate Republican who often votes with the Democrats on environmental matters and some tax issues, Chafee said he wants to press his views from within the party. He said he will be able to better serve Rhode Island as a member of the party that controls Congress and the White House. His decision preserves the 55-44-1 Republican advantage that resulted from last Tuesday's elections. Sen. James Jeffords of Vermont had earlier switched from Republican to independent.
And you can see the kind of power and prestige that got him.
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2004 10:25:56 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I have a feeling that Senator Chaffee would consider the move had the Dems took control of the Senate and Kerry was elected.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/09/2004 10:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Linc Chaffee was the mayor of my medium-sized city of Warwick, RI when I lived there. I thought then that he was a lightweight coasting on Daddy's rep. He vaulted from Mayor to Senator overnight when his dad (a truly good Senator and man, IMO) died in office.

He's been losing weight in my book ever since.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 11/09/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#3  The way Chafee votes does it really matter if he makes it offical?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/09/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Isshhh! I smell Chafee RINO poop.
Posted by: Capt America || 11/09/2004 15:42 Comments || Top||

#5  "My Republican colleagues have let me know that they want me in their caucus," the Rhode Island senator said Monday.

Sakes. The fact that he even thought of making a switch is fishy enough. Other Republicans would do well to keep one eye on this person at all times.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/09/2004 16:09 Comments || Top||

#6  RINO
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/09/2004 23:37 Comments || Top||


'Fired Up' Kerry Returning to Senate
Democrat John F. Kerry plans to use his Senate seat and long lists of supporters to remain a major voice in American politics despite losing the presidential race last Tuesday, and he is assessing the feasibility of trying again in 2008, friends and aides said yesterday.
Oh, do that. Please!
Kerry will attend a post-election lame-duck Senate session that begins next week and has said he is "fired up" to play a highly visible role, the friends and aides said.
Gonna try and get his name on some legislation, is he?
Posted by: Fred || 11/09/2004 10:04:42 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  he'll probably need directions, it's been so long since he and John-John showed up for their jobs. Wanker
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2004 11:11 Comments || Top||

#2  After 20 years, he's finally fired up.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/09/2004 11:15 Comments || Top||

#3  After all that Tarmac football he should be fired up. I wonder if Terayza willkeps flying him around the country so he keeps his skill up.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/09/2004 11:20 Comments || Top||

#4  'bout time he showed up for work.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/09/2004 19:51 Comments || Top||

#5  ..to remain a major voice in American politics..

He was a "major voice" in American politix before running for President? Sure fooled my ass.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/09/2004 21:25 Comments || Top||

#6  Didn't he used to be a Senator or Lt. Senator or sumptin'?
Posted by: SteveS || 11/09/2004 22:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Kerry hedged his bets by staying senator while on the campaign for prez. During that time he hardly voted on anything, so his state was missing its Senator. I guess people get the govt they deserve. Maybe they liked an absentee senator. Of course, he wouldn't resign to run because the dems needed a place holder in the Senate.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/09/2004 22:50 Comments || Top||

#8  "Senator Kerry, it's that big white building with the dome on top. Right there, at the end of Pennsylvania Avenue. If you show the nice man at the door your driver's license he'll take you right to your office. Oh yes, you do have an office, with a little nameplate on the door and everything."
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/09/2004 23:33 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
MIS agents sent to prison in Burma
Burmese officers from strategic studies department including its heads Brigadier General Thein Swe and Brigadier General Than Tun and assistant-head Colonel Hla Min, each had been sentenced to 22 years in prison, according to those who are close to their families. Thein Swe had been officially requesting his retirement from the chairman of the junta, State Peace and Development Council (SPDC) General Than Shwe for nearly three months. He was in charge of foreign affairs and computer department. The assistant head of the computer department Colonel Tin Oo was "allowed to retired" from the army.

All agents of the computer department had also been fired from their jobs, according to those who are close to the supreme command in Rangoon. Officers and agents of No.6 MIS, known to many people as the army of lackeys of their ousted head General Khin Nyunt had been detained and interrogated at the compound of Rangoon Division Military Command. Moreover, the commanders of No.2, MIS based in Lashio, Lieutenant-Colonel Thet Tin Sein, Major Min San Kyi and the commander of No.9 MIS Major Hteik Shwe Maw were arrested on 29 October and taken to Rangoon, according to eyewitnesses.
This looks like a purge. Here is a related story from The Democratic Voice of Burma:
Although Burma's military junta, State Peace and Development Council (SPDC) has been arresting its military intelligence service (MIS) agents throughout the country, it is also replacing them with new agents in some townships. According to local residents, it is not known whether the new agents are military agents or from the Sa-Thonelone or the special police force, but they don't seem to be as powerful as their predecessors nor the police nor members of the junta-sponsored Union Solidarity and Development Association (USDA). The relationship between the main opposition National League for Democracy (NLD) and the intelligence differs from one township to another, according to the NLD spokesman U Lwin. He added that the extraordinary thing at the moment is, he and another NLD leader are being followed only by an agent on motorcycle, instead of like before with three agents on cars. All in all, the relationship with the agents remains the same with regular harassments and arrests of NLD members.
Something is going on here.
Posted by: Steve || 11/09/2004 9:37:57 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: North
Egyptian Teenagers Fight Against Forced Muslim Identities
From Compass Direct
Two teenage Christian sisters in Egypt have gone to court to contest the forced change of their official religious identity to Islam. A State Council verdict is due by the end of November on the case of Iman and Olfat Malak Ayet, now 17 and 18 years of age. Raised as Christians for their entire lives by their Coptic Orthodox mother, the two girls were infants when their now-deceased father converted to Islam. After leaving his Christian wife, little Olfat and as yet unborn Iman in 1986, Malak Aayad Assad changed his name to Mohammed Abdullah al-Mahdi, married a Muslim wife and fathered three more children. After several years' legal battle, he eventually consented to a formal divorce from his Christian wife.

But the father had never taken custody of his two Christian daughters or interfered with their mother for raising them as Christians. "He sometimes visited us on the Christian feast days," Olfat told Compass during a private interview in July, "but he never suggested to us that we should become Muslims."

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 11/09/2004 11:27:40 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: Subsaharan
French Troops fire into Ivory Coast Crowd
Posted by: domingo || 11/09/2004 19:22 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, it's a Cocoa Quagmire for the French. Talk up a good show, get the UN to sub it out to the French, and let 'em run with it. Well, France, the Ivory Coast is yours, you wanted it, so you can get yourselves out of the mess you made. Good luck.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/09/2004 21:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Coo Coo for Cocoa Quagmire! Coo Coo for Cocoa Quagmire!
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/09/2004 21:48 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Economy
AlGore to Head New Investment Management Firm
Given his track record of backing losers, I'd stay far, far away from this:
Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore was named chairman Tuesday of Generation Investment Management, a new London-based fund management firm that plans to create environment-friendly portfolios. Generation Investment will manage assets of institutional investors, such as pension funds, foundations and endowments, as well as those of "high net worth individuals," from offices in London and Washington, D.C.
Looking for big money libs.
Gore said the new company will carefully screen potential companies to invest in, choosing only those that meet specific standards on how they treat their employees and the environment. Growth prospects will also be considered, he said.
Note that a return on investment is a secondary consideration.
Founding partners announced Monday also include David Blood, former CEO of Goldman Sachs Asset Management....
The Blood and Gore Fund, catchy name.
Posted by: Steve || 11/09/2004 3:02:32 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  During the campaign, AlGore's endorsement was a leading indicator of failure. Wonder if he has the same "magic touch" picking stocks?
Posted by: Mike || 11/09/2004 16:00 Comments || Top||

#2  I know this is probably an awkward question, but... what qualifies my man Al to manage an investment group?
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/09/2004 16:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Priceless. Will they register as a 527?
Posted by: lex || 11/09/2004 16:15 Comments || Top||

#4  I have a few Mutual Funds. I will be watching their prosepcti somewhat closer now to see if they invest with this group. If they do, it's a sell.
It has occured to me, that it might be the opportune time to get some more specialty funds out there. Say, a Conservative Fund investing in those things conservative by nature. There are already loads (no pun here) of funds e.g. the Lutheran Fund, Catholic Funds, Carver funds to name a few that invest for their constituents who share their views.
I propose the Bush Fund would be a good one to consider as a name.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 11/09/2004 17:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Bet they refuse to invest in Israel.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/09/2004 17:49 Comments || Top||

#6  This will be strictly cattle futures.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/09/2004 18:20 Comments || Top||

#7  tu3031 -- You didn't know? Al Gore invented investment management.
Posted by: Ol_Dirty_American || 11/09/2004 22:48 Comments || Top||

#8  bet Soros doesn't invest with them. He's an asshole, but a successful one
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2004 22:59 Comments || Top||

#9  Al Gorelione into investments....hmmmm....like Al Sharpton and his "I quit" reality show....a fool and his money are soon parted.

So what happens to all the Dem lawyers now that they have nothing to do? Back to ambulance chasing, probate, and writing regulations?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/09/2004 23:13 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
India Plants Another One
A Mirage 2000 jet fighter of the Indian Air Force (IAF) crashed near Gwalior late Tuesday night, officials here said. The jet crashed at about 9.15 p.m. while on a routine training flight from the Gwalior air base. Further details were not immediately available, and the status of the pilot was not known, the IAF officials, who did not want to be named, said.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/09/2004 1:31:18 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Two words: "Boycott France".
Posted by: Tom || 11/09/2004 14:49 Comments || Top||

#2  I wonder what little surprises all them Airbuses have in store.....? ;)
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/09/2004 14:59 Comments || Top||

#3  The Mirage 2000 does seem to be a really expensive way to dig a hole...
Posted by: mojo || 11/09/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||

#4  The other way to look at this is.... you can only crash 'em if you fly 'em. Syria has not had an accident in ages. India maybe is cranking up air hours?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/09/2004 18:44 Comments || Top||

#5  never try baksheesh with the French ..... they are cheaper than anyone
Posted by: MacNails || 11/09/2004 18:47 Comments || Top||

#6  I wonder what little surprises all them Airbuses have in store.....? ;)

A recent American Airlines Airbus crash has been blamed on pilot error. According to the manufacturer, if you waggle the tail too hard, it breaks off.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/09/2004 21:27 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
Bombing of French in Ivory Coast 'deliberate'
French Defence Minister Michele Alliot-Marie told members of the ruling Union for a Popular Movement (UMP) that Saturday's fatal attack by Ivory Coast jets on French peace-keepers was deliberate, a top party figure said Tuesday. "There is no ambiguity about a supposed mistake on the part of the two Sukhoi pilots who we know were mercenaries from Belarus," said Bernard Accoyer, head of the party's group in France's National Assembly, after a meeting with Alliot-Marie.
Buy the planes, get pilots at no extra charge!
Nine French peace-keepers were killed in the raid, prompting President Jacques Chirac to order the destruction of the Ivorian air force. On Monday Alliot-Marie said she had been told by wounded survivors that "the Ivorian plane flew twice over the building and fired on the third pass."
Posted by: Steve || 11/09/2004 12:03:43 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Would staking out the popcorn franchise for this be in bad taste?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/09/2004 12:43 Comments || Top||

#2  The French are digging themselves a really deep hole in Sub-Saharan Africa right now, and will soon begin to reap what they've sown. The backlash against Muslim guerilla movements moving down from the north all across Sub-Saharan Africa may be the only thing that unites these very diverse peoples under a common leadership. France's support and encouragement of the Muslims is obvious, and unwanted. I expect to see larger and larger numbers of French killed - both military and their former French Colonial civilians.

Unfortunately a large number of British currently living in THEIR former colonies are following the same game plan. They'll probably reap the same reward.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/09/2004 14:05 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm impressed the IC pilots found the targets.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/09/2004 16:13 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Secession Movement Gains Steam
"Oh, hold me, Babs!"
The Washington Times today covers the emerging blue-state secession movement. It started as a joke but seems to be working its way towards becoming a real proposal. Meanwhile, journalists are discovering strange new artifacts from American history: "While secession is often thought to be a Southern phenomenon, Northern leaders repeatedly threatened secession in the 19th century, in protest of such provocations as the War of 1812, as well as the admission of Louisiana and Texas to the Union. In 1803, Massachusetts Sen. Timothy Pickering proposed 'a new confederacy,' naming the New England states members along with New York ('the center of the confederacy')." What's next? Will The Nation start promoting DiLorenzo's masterful expose of Lincoln? Roderick saw it first.
Posted by: tipper || 11/09/2004 9:12:02 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Last time somebody tried to leave they got blockaded and had their cities burned down. I wonder how long San Francisco or Boston would last with no food, water, or electricity.

Let's find out. Go for it, morons.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 11/09/2004 9:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Insanity, pure insanity!
Posted by: RJB in JC MO || 11/09/2004 9:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Boston should have to repay the US for the Big Dig
Posted by: Frank G || 11/09/2004 9:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Yet another issue that was settled by war. You can join but you cannot leave. Se, er... 1865 for an example.

Soon to appear: Tommy Franks' March to the Sea?
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/09/2004 10:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Hopefully a few prominent Dems will openly advocate this course of action. We'll have a Republican majority for decades if that happens.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/09/2004 10:06 Comments || Top||

#6  I look forward to seeing how future history books will cover Col. Steve's march to the Pacific Ocean.
Posted by: BH || 11/09/2004 10:17 Comments || Top||

#7  Ya the Army of Michael Moore with Jabba in the front lines. Biff bam. take that you rebel.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 11/09/2004 10:40 Comments || Top||

#8  The Army of Steve vs The Moore Horde.

Sounds like the most exciting 17 seconds of combat in history.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 11/09/2004 10:42 Comments || Top||

#9  I'd prefer a march to the Gulf of St Lawrence. The tough part is which to burn, Quebec or Boston.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/09/2004 10:51 Comments || Top||

#10  Hehehe... It reminds me of the pictures of the protesters with the signs, "Can we seceded yet?" and "F**k middle America". My response, "Hey, guys. Before making yourself even more of an ass, remember which side has all the guns. Hint, it ain't yours.."
Posted by: mmurray821 || 11/09/2004 10:52 Comments || Top||

#11  The south keeping the north in the union?? Holy irony batman. Bedford Forest is turning in his grave.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/09/2004 10:56 Comments || Top||

#12  I would allow for peaceful secession if enough of a states population voted for it, and the state agreed to take on their proper share of the national debt.

That won't happen of course, they want it all. They can go to Canada or New Zealand if they want, but they can't expect to take away california without a fight.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/09/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#13  I made this same point on a different comment group yesterday about this subject : most of the supposedly Blue states are only Blue in the urban areas. Outside of Multnomah County, Oregon is almost all red. And if seige warfare proves anything, it proves that cities are hell during a seige. I know of no major American urban area that has more than one week's worth of food on hand, none that have the majority of their freshwater needs met internally, nor any that have independent power generation to meet their needs.
End result : Stalingrad without the happy ending.
Posted by: Chinese Unomotch9553 || 11/09/2004 11:57 Comments || Top||

#14  Siege warfare has evolved quite a bit actually. Global Security covered MOUT quite well in the run up to the Iraq war. Also, see comment by mmurray821.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/09/2004 12:41 Comments || Top||

#15  And if seige warfare proves anything, it proves that cities are hell during a seige.

Not if the defenders are weaponsless pussies.
Posted by: BH || 11/09/2004 12:42 Comments || Top||

#16  The Bonnie Blue State Flag:

We are a bunch of tranzis
We hate American soil
We're not fighting for the liberty
Earned by soldiers' toil

And when Osama called us
The cry went near and far:
Hurrah for the Blue State Flag
There's just no need for war.
Posted by: Matt || 11/09/2004 12:56 Comments || Top||

#17  It will be interesting: Alabamans and Georgians under the United States flag fighting Bostonians and New Yorkers carrying the Confederate flag. And a few decades after the Rebs are crushed, a New York woman writes a novel "Gone with the Winds". Hint: In French to have winds is what hapopens after eating beans.
Posted by: JFM || 11/09/2004 13:30 Comments || Top||

#18  Don't you mean, "Bostonians and New Yorkers under the U.N. flag"?
Posted by: AzCat || 11/09/2004 13:51 Comments || Top||

#19  No I meant the Confederate Flag. Having a reverse civil war would be amusing. And of course, the good guys, ie the Union, win.
Posted by: JFM || 11/09/2004 14:17 Comments || Top||

#20  What if we kick them out? Can we do that? ;)

Posted by: Desert Blondie || 11/09/2004 15:18 Comments || Top||

#21  They're not seceding, but they are shrinking. When the county-by-county results are analyzed, I'm sure we'll see that Bush carried more or less the same counties he did in 2000. It's just that those red counties are growing, many of them (esp in Colorado, Nevada, other southwestern states, also North Carolina and other boomtown sunbelt locales) at a rapid rate, while the old economy urban areas and blue counties are losing population.

It would be unbelievably stupid for the Dems to bet on the rustbelt and the inner cities instead of the high-growth suburbs/ex-urbs and the sunbelt. But hey, they nominated Kerry, didn't they?
Posted by: lex || 11/09/2004 15:25 Comments || Top||

#22  Let's be serious, if memory serves the blue states are filled with pacifists? I'd love to see the rioting in the steets. No war for secession! No war for Canada!
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/09/2004 17:07 Comments || Top||

#23  Blue Staters, Welcome to the Hotel California!
Posted by: A Jackson || 11/09/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#24  Damn Matt! Way good!
Posted by: Shipman || 11/09/2004 18:54 Comments || Top||

#25  Aigh!, My Eyes! Who put that up there?!?!?!
Posted by: Asedwich || 11/09/2004 19:58 Comments || Top||

#26  CAUTION: I noticed a (Thomas) DiLorenzo name was mentioned at the bottom of the posting, in terms of his so-called "masterful expose of Lincoln" (?)

DiLorenzo is directly tied in with the most rabid neo-Confederate-KKK organizations that mask their true cause of blind hate for anyone whom they classify as a 'Yankee'. These bastards would have loved slavery to continue. DiLorenzo is NOT a conservative, but a bigot. He peddles his real hate within his own circles and a watered down version for the general public. If anything, he should be viewed crafty clone of David Duke. Example; on August 24th, of 2004 he quoted this source "Alleged Ku Klux Outrages" for his new version of post Civil War 'history', stating those in KKK were only defending themselves and he displayed two large photos of the KKK.themselves. This element even has their own coded lingo between themselves in publications & on the internet.

Remedy: If the leftist losers want to run away to Canada , good, take the DiLorenzo types with them. That would really clean up this nation.

Those true conservatives & I am one, which greatly assisted in re-electing President Bush do not need the likes of anyone in the forefront of the 'masked' Southern-KKK secessionist movement flying their 'Confederate' flag.

DiLorenzo's photo in link
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/09/2004 22:16 Comments || Top||

#27  Lex is right. The LLL want to seceed because of their "shrinkage." LOL!

Matt---the parody of the Bonnie Blue Flag is a classic!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/09/2004 22:28 Comments || Top||

#28  If California wishes to secede, I don't have a problem with that. Just give me ample notice of the official date so I can be long gone by then, never to return.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/10/2004 0:04 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
Eating the French
A snippet of a story on the Ivory Coast
About 1,000 loyalists on Tuesday were maintaining a standoff outside a hotel commandeered by the French military. Some of the 1,300 French and other foreign civilians evacuated from their homes by the French military amid looting and burning stared out at the protesters from a protective ring of barbed wire around the hotel. "We are not going to leave," one loyalist outside the French temporary base said, adding that protesters would take shifts to eat. "If I get the French, I can eat them," he said.
They taste like chicken?
Protesters tried at one point Tuesday morning to pull down the barbed wire around the French evacuation point but scattered when two French snipers moved forward and drew beads on them.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/09/2004 8:58:17 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If I get the French, I can eat them

Yipes! At least the muslims don't look at us as their next meal. Gives you a whole new perspective on combat.
Posted by: N Guard || 11/09/2004 9:03 Comments || Top||

#2  There are 14,000 French civilians in IC. There is no way the peacekeepers can protect them all. This can get very ugly very quickly.
Posted by: ed || 11/09/2004 9:23 Comments || Top||

#3  looks like the french would have retreating down too an art by now. There may be 14,000 but you know they gotta leave a few behind too keep them off their back long enough too get out
Posted by: smokeysinse || 11/09/2004 10:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Sacraficial snacks to enable a Strategic Retreat? Now there is some new military doctrine!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/09/2004 11:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Frenchies probably taste like snails.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/09/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#6  unwashed snails
Posted by: Pheretle Omavise6947 || 11/09/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#7  French, the other white meat.
Posted by: VRWconspiracy || 11/09/2004 11:32 Comments || Top||

#8  New military doctrine? Perhaps, but the Russians have been throwing passengers over the back of the troika, to distract the ravenous wolves, for centuries. I recall seeing a famous painting on the subject, so I know its true. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/09/2004 11:47 Comments || Top||

#9  Colonialist-oppressor soup?
Posted by: Anonymous6236 || 11/09/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#10  Yesterday's Le Monde editorial meme was that French military needs to get out of IC as a hell of a lot happened after the soldiers were bombed. The planes landed and were subsequently shot up and put out of commission by Frenchies. Ditto IC Mi-24 helicopters, but one. Citizens heard about this and went on the famous rampage. French forces wounded around 400 and killed around 400, according to Red Cross, in the aftermath. Le Mondes's solution: Get the hell out of Dodge and hand everything over to UN. In fact, everything had already been handed over to the UN; French were basically taking orders from UN and tasked with separating Northern rebels and govt forces. Now, they've got to keep foreigners out of harm's way in addition to trying to keep "peace".

BTW, planes and helos had been performing missions on North since Thursday (Bombing took place on Saturday). Guess who had control of airport? French. Why didn't they stop these missions, which were explicitly against the UN sponsored agreement which outlined steps to national unity? (one of the steps being the presence of peacekeepers) Didn't want to make the natives restless. Well, that's a fine kettle of fish you've gotten us into, Stanley.

It was funny to watch Le Monde preen and squirm at the same time. Preening: We're not there to rob the country of its natural resources, namely coffee and cocoa, unlike the Amerloques in Iraq, and everbody knows why they are there. Squirming: Given our good intentions then, why do they hate us? N'importe, let's take the bullseye off the backs of French soldiers and let African nations and UN fix problem (Where have you heard that before?). This is Le Monde's attitude, so you can paint it as pretty much mainstream thinking in the salons of French govt. After 12 deaths (total) and around 40 wounded. And two years of effort. Any bets that Iraq will be up and running (albeit not perfectly) before IC will? Le Monde didn't make a call for an investigation into the fireworks. If W wanted to drag its feet in UN as payback, oh he so easily could. Like ask UN to investigate violence before any further resolutions are passed. Now's the time to tell Kofi/Jacques behind closed doors that if they're nice to us in Iraq, we can be nice to them re IC.

Now aren't you glad Nov. 2 went to Bush? Use the UN for things it can do; ignore the rest, specifically Kofi's advice on Fallujah.
Posted by: chicago mike || 11/09/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#11  The Ivorians have to remember, though, don't eat the chitlins. They give you kuru. Or so Michael Moore's MD told me.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/09/2004 13:04 Comments || Top||

#12  Eat the FRENCH? Ghanians I can understand. Burkina-Fasoans may be permissible (they're Mandinka, if I remember correctly). Niger inhabitants are taboo, and so are Togoans. But the FRENCH? It gives me indigestion to even THINK about it!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/09/2004 14:10 Comments || Top||

#13  I would rather it dirt.
Posted by: raptor || 11/09/2004 16:18 Comments || Top||

#14  Eat merde and die!
Posted by: Sgt.D.T. || 11/09/2004 16:35 Comments || Top||

#15  I'm gonna eat your children!
Posted by: Mike Tyson || 11/09/2004 18:54 Comments || Top||

#16  i would be of thought you would be pleaed with deep fried ears... excellent, crunchy with a hint of nuance
Posted by: half || 11/09/2004 19:04 Comments || Top||

#17  It'd be like eating dirty feet.
Posted by: BillH || 11/09/2004 19:47 Comments || Top||

#18  Quagmire™
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/09/2004 20:56 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Babs pops a couple more screws... rattles on...
Posted by: .com || 11/09/2004 07:24 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeesh, she's almost as far gone as the one who was babbling about "Telepathic Magi" with 7' tall demon butlers. (see LGF, DU for relavent info) I just hope these people come to terms with reality before the "Heavens Gate" episodes start. Unlike some here, I rather like having these loons around (_I_ find them entertaining), and I dislike having to clean up after mass suicides.
Posted by: N Guard || 11/09/2004 8:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Babs has not improved with age. It's a good thing her nose has held up better than her similarly scaled boobs, or she would really be in trouble.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/09/2004 8:19 Comments || Top||

#3  FYI: I finaly found the original post to what i was referring to. Its at:

http://www.livejournal.com/community/pagan/1334906.html

Theres got to be something we can do with this!
Posted by: N Guard || 11/09/2004 9:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Ack! Some pasture someplace is missing a cow......
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/09/2004 9:24 Comments || Top||

#5  From the land of irrelevancy looniness, and BS. Zzzzzzzzz.......
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 11/09/2004 9:44 Comments || Top||

#6  Is she outa her fucking mind ??
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 11/09/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Yes
Posted by: Steve || 11/09/2004 11:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Ah yes, editorial comment from a high school drop out...
Posted by: Capsu78 || 11/09/2004 12:17 Comments || Top||

#9  I don't have time to read a million monkeys typing. Same goes for Babs.
Posted by: Old Fogey || 11/09/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||

#10  Tell you what, you loony bitch. You don't use my quotes and I won't sing your horseshit songs. Deal?
Posted by: The Ghost of Thomas Jefferson || 11/09/2004 16:53 Comments || Top||

#11  How can someone of limited acting skills, however much blessed with a magnificent set of pipes which are used to spew so much meaningless drivel, still command so much of your attention?

Content. Remember this, it's the content that counts. Madonna, Michael McDonald, Lionel Ritchie, Michael Bolton ... do their sort of content sway this world's progress? Does Streisand's? Face the question squarely and then get over it.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/09/2004 23:38 Comments || Top||



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