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2003-10-30 Europe

Germans embracing Islam: Himmler delighted

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Posted by Steve 2003-10-30 1:31:13 PM|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 ...Ah, to be at this year's reunion of SS 'Der Kama'..
These people are mindless, moral-less fools.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2003-10-30 1:58:44 PM|| 2003-10-30 1:58:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 'On present form the burgeoning Muslim population of Europe will never be âwesternized,â that is to say, made as willing as Christians to see their religion relativized, then mocked, and its commandments misrepresented or ignored.'

Seems like whoever wrote this has a really big problem with modern society. NOT someone whos interested in liberal democracy and a secular state. I wouldnt take the rest seriously.

oh wait he want to emphasize "By creating an SS division composed of Bosnian Muslims" Well im certainly aware of that history - interesting that nowhere here do we find out that contemporary Bosnian Muslims, ARE secularized and moderate.

Oh wait - the authors name? "Srdja Trifkovic"

Basically just more bigoted muslim bashing. By someone whose main worry is NOT Salafi-Jihadi terrorism, but instead is " a cultural tradition rooted in Christianity" well, my cultural tradition AINT rooted in christianity thank you very much - Im damned glad my great grand parents had the good sense to come to a country whose cultural tradition is rooted in the enlightenment. God bless the USA.

Posted by liberalhawk 2003-10-30 2:40:48 PM|| 2003-10-30 2:40:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I have noted before that Europe is effectively post-Christian. Their current religion is democratic socialism, which neglects people's spiritual (and many other) needs. Their morality has been weakened and Islam stands ready to succeed where it failed before the gates of Vienna.

Posted by Spot 2003-10-30 2:42:23 PM|| 2003-10-30 2:42:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 The Germans have been on the wrong side of history since their foundation as a state. WW1, WW2, half of Germany was on the wrong side of the cold war (DDR and College students). Its actually a cheering site to see them embracing Islam in that context.

Posted by Yanks 2003-10-30 3:02:39 PM|| 2003-10-30 3:02:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 1. Just because the Islam Institute says 11k have converted, it doesn't mean they have.

2. A lot of incarcerated people attend moslem religious services in prison and identify with the 'I am a victim' mentality. They may even convert. But then they commit crimes again and get sent to prison again and get ticked off and unconvert. Do you count these people as converts?

3. For Germany, 11k Islamic converts may be a problem but 3 to 4 million Islamic residents, many of whom are hostile to civilization, is a disaster.

Posted by mhw 2003-10-30 3:34:11 PM|| 2003-10-30 3:34:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Once again, I'm amazed that some Rantbourgeois are too familiar with Nazi culture to the point they quote the Horst Wessel Lied--Gott in Himmel--what say you TGA?

Posted by NotMikeMoore 2003-10-30 9:53:38 PM|| 2003-10-30 9:53:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm amazed that some Rantbourgeois are too familiar with Nazi

I'm amazed too...
I however can name the Gulags from B-Z and know lots about the T-34 - T-72. Hmmmm.... I know about the Doctors Plot and stateless metropolitans and trust me I can smell a Kulak. Can you humm Red October? Are you familiar with the defense of Tractor Station 4? I knew you were.

Posted by Shipman 2003-10-30 10:03:13 PM|| 2003-10-30 10:03:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 A bit esoteric since I was referring to an ACTUAL DECLARED WAR/ENEMY of the US

Posted by NotMikeMoore 2003-10-30 10:15:58 PM|| 2003-10-30 10:15:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 In days of old, before Rantburg, I used to have a small collection of marches and anthems. Along with Horst Wessel, I also have the Radetzky March, Gary Owen, Stars and Stripes Forever, and about 40 or 50 others. I also collect 20s and 30s jazz.

I used to have a copy of Triumph of the Will, along with Chapaev, Battleship Potemkin, and Aleksandr Nevsky. I also have copies of Tom Jones, the Magnificent Seven, and the African Queen.

I own a copy of the Organisationsbuch der NSDAP, printed in 1940, with a picture of Adolph in the frontespiece. I also own the complete works of Lenin, a 120-year-old History of the Holy Roman Empire, translations of Eusebius and St. Augustine, the Soviet officers' handbook, quite a large number of books on languages, linguistics, and military orders of battle and tactics, plus poetry, most of it Elizabethan.

Most Rantburgers probably possess similarly odd collections. Anyone who can't Google the lyrics to most well-known songs shouldn't be allowed near a computer, though I'll admit I can hum the tune without prompting. I can also hum Gary Owen, the Marseillaise, and Brahms' 4th (or at least the first movement).

Posted by Fred 2003-10-30 11:58:26 PM|| 2003-10-30 11:58:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 The Marseillaise---!? Then you truly do rule Fred--"Allons enfants de la patrie--le jour de gloire est arrivee! " Learned it in 3rd grade in Ohio--guess we were a hot bed of francophiles in '65

Posted by NotMikeMoore 2003-10-31 12:31:55 AM|| 2003-10-31 12:31:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 ...Still missing the point, NMM...

Posted by Bulldog 2003-10-31 4:07:26 AM|| 2003-10-31 4:07:26 AM|| Front Page Top

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