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2003-10-30 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Woman about to give birth to triplets - for sixth time
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Posted by Bulldog 2003-10-30 8:57:01 AM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 These people are fugitives from the law of averages. They should be playing the Powerball, since they seem to have a knack for beating the odds.
Posted by Mike  2003-10-30 9:22:38 AM||   2003-10-30 9:22:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 ...£12 a week...

For a family of 17. Maybe they should write a book on living on less than £2 a week. They will make a fortune, I tell ya, a fortune!
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-10-30 11:05:44 AM||   2003-10-30 11:05:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Â£2 a week, er I meant per day. My mistake.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-10-30 11:15:22 AM||   2003-10-30 11:15:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Time long ago for these two to keep their clothes on.
Posted by Frank G  2003-10-30 11:31:12 AM||   2003-10-30 11:31:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Aren't there laws against littering?
Posted by Fred  2003-10-30 11:33:55 AM||   2003-10-30 11:33:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I was going to make a very tasteless joke linking runts, litters and certain Turks. I'm glad I didn't.
Posted by Bulldog  2003-10-30 11:49:30 AM||   2003-10-30 11:49:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Geez, she's going to an early grave. Her body can't take that.
Posted by Anonymous 2003-10-30 12:07:44 PM||   2003-10-30 12:07:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Bulldog--uh family planning in the Bushies' America equates with promoting abortion--and we just can't have any of that--better to let the 3rd world breed like rabbits in the cuckoo evangelical Republican mindset. Who said irony was dead??!
Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-10-30 12:11:55 PM||   2003-10-30 12:11:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Well, gee Mikey, I guess we should just round 'em up and put 'em in camps, huh?

And what does the Bush administration have to do with Turkish abortion laws, anyway?

Couldn't pass up the chance for a swipe, whether it made any sense or not, I guess.
Posted by mojo  2003-10-30 12:15:54 PM||   2003-10-30 12:15:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 mojo--my point was about the Repooplican policy of not funding ANY international family planning organizations that EVEN MENTION abortion--more clear?
Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-10-30 12:18:52 PM||   2003-10-30 12:18:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 moore-y.. we are all waiting for you to come up with that evidence stuff, oh and while your at it come up with an even better idea.. you dont have one do you?
Posted by dcreeper 2003-10-30 12:19:11 PM||   2003-10-30 12:19:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Ever heard of the phrase "shutting the stable dor after the horse has bolted", NMM? You can plan a family w/o the option of abortion. Surgery, barriers etc. - you should look into these things sometime.
Posted by Bulldog  2003-10-30 12:38:38 PM||   2003-10-30 12:38:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 NMM - since when did it become our responsibility to keep "modern" country inhabitants (Like Turkey, huh Murat) from having repeated litters that they can't afford to feed or educate??? Bush's policy is that if we decide to help out with the family planning these idiots can't manage on their own, that we choose not to advance abortion as a method. Cripes! Liberal handwringers can't get that straight huh? If we don't fund abortion on demand over all the planet, then we're not progressive or compassionate enough....asshats!
Posted by Frank G  2003-10-30 12:40:15 PM||   2003-10-30 12:40:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 NMM - read between the lines next time. What do you suppose Allah's stance on abortion is?
Posted by Raj 2003-10-30 12:43:08 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com]  2003-10-30 12:43:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 OK dcreeper try: http://populationaction.org/resources/factsheets/factsheet_5.htm
Not wringing my hands--I just find it hypocritical for the Rantbourgeoisie to be for this policy of trying to prevent abortion in the 3rd world, while at the same time decrying the fact that western civilization is being overrun by the dark hordes. --This policy is simply pandering by the GOP to the evangelical NUTZ that make up their core constituents! I think we should be encouraging ALL forms of birth control in the Third World including abortion.
Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-10-30 1:05:39 PM||   2003-10-30 1:05:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 One of my dad's first cousins had nine girls in five pregnancies, and I thought that was unusual! At least her husband had a better chance of supporting them, being a (very successful!) farmer. I think this Turkish guy needs to find a more promising line of work, though - one that pays a tad bit better. There's a definite link between income and family size - and it's not country or race dependent.

NMM, abortion is nothing but an escape from responsibility. I refuse to spend my hard-earned income so some irresponsible dweeb can get rid of an "accident" that could have been prevented with just a tiny bit of forethought and a lot less foreplay. Trying to make this a Republican disaster only shows how willing you are to attack anyone that wants to increase the idea of personal responsibility.
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-10-30 1:12:37 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2003-10-30 1:12:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 "policy of trying to prevent abortion in the 3rd world"

what part of not paying for that don't you understand? We aren't making the decision on whether any other country decides it's legal or allowed, we just don't want to pay for it.
Posted by Frank G  2003-10-30 1:24:44 PM||   2003-10-30 1:24:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Frank G read the article--it says even if they "refer to" "NOT PAY FOR " an abortion provider--that's why it's called the "Gag Rule"
OP--Your argument would be valid if people behaved rationally--but you think someone popping out their 8th kid in some shack has any sense of responsibility? I don't--I'd rather have them abort so I don't have to pay for their "mistake" for 18+ years as opposed to a one time deal!
Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-10-30 1:55:37 PM||   2003-10-30 1:55:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 NMM:

Here, you illustrate the deep respect for human life which all illiberal utopian statists hold. You want to go 'round killing off all those bloody peasants in their shacks who don't fit your definition of "responsibility" or "worthiness." Kill off all the "unworthies" and "inferiors." Just like the great Margaret Sanger preached.

And they say there's no "culture of death."
Posted by Mike  2003-10-30 2:45:48 PM||   2003-10-30 2:45:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Myrtl,the Fertile Turtle.

Abortion is wrong!PERIOD!
Posted by Raptor  2003-10-30 4:18:03 PM||   2003-10-30 4:18:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Because YOUR religion sez so? HUH? And there'll be no toleration for others who don't believe the same? HUH? That view fits right in with the minarets crowd to me--just a different angle.
Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-10-30 5:11:43 PM||   2003-10-30 5:11:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 NMM, Don't try to tie abortion to religion. I don't hold any religious beliefs, and find the idea of abortion repugnant in the extreme because it's a gross contradiction of basic morality. It's about the value that you place on individual human life, and whether you can justify deliberately ending a human life simply because its existence is an inconvenience to others.
Posted by Bulldog  2003-10-30 7:09:04 PM||   2003-10-30 7:09:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#23  I think we should be encouraging ALL forms of birth control in the Third World including abortion.

Been there doing that. Got your back NMM.
Posted by Uncle Bob 2003-10-30 7:58:23 PM||   2003-10-30 7:58:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 ALL forms? Late term abortion, national 'one child per couple' policies, enforced sterilization of females after n births, culling of breeding age individuals, inoculation with, and encouraging the spread of, viral and bacterial infections likely to cause sterility...?

What do you mean, ALL forms?
Posted by Bulldog  2003-10-30 8:16:25 PM||   2003-10-30 8:16:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Fine Bulldog--they'll just send the "excess" Pakis to Britain like they've been doing for years--shame when the Empire's cuckoos chickens come home to roost! Any Rantbourgeois taking odds on Londistan vs Paristan? Which one will get to Sharia first?
Posted by NotMikeMoore 2003-10-30 9:40:05 PM||   2003-10-30 9:40:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 I don't usually side w/NMM on much but I'm w/him on this one. There are strong moral arguments against it and you've all made valid points.

I have a relative who had one, (and we're Catholic) it's not an easy decision and although I didn't personally condone it (and don't for my own personal life) I wouldn't deny her the right to the procedure. I believe NMM makes a good point especially regarding Paki-land & India. Yeah, that's what the world needs, more kids no one takes care of and don't get put up for adoption. Half the countries mentioned are already over populated to the nth degree (I've been to some - damn shit holes). If they want to have an abortion - that's on them. As far as Africa goes, if you can get them to put a condom on that would be a miracle. I think 1st term abortion needs to be an option for these people. I think we'd pay more in the long run when a lot of these jokers are wards of the state. Go ahead and send the flamers but knock off the personal attacks - debate me on the issue.
Posted by Jarhead 2003-10-30 10:40:26 PM||   2003-10-30 10:40:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Unfortunately,--and not a criticism of your view Jarhead--but these kids get born--and are sent to Madrassahs in Pakistan because their families have no $ for education, but the kind Saudi Wahhaabis have a free school for them to attend--I will NEVER forget seeing that on 60 minutes--8 year old boys chanting etc.
Posted by NotMikeMoore 2003-10-30 10:47:59 PM||   2003-10-30 10:47:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 NMM - I forgot about the Madrassah angle. However, what's the Paki view on abortion? I'd wager since their Muslim it would be a no go. The Indian gov't was paying guys to get vasectomies years ago.........
Posted by Jarhead 2003-10-30 11:10:05 PM||   2003-10-30 11:10:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 scroll up and read my populationaction link/post
Posted by NotMikeMoore 2003-10-30 11:18:37 PM||   2003-10-30 11:18:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 Fine Bulldog--they'll just send the "excess" Pakis to Britain like they've been doing for years--shame when the Empire's cuckoos chickens come home to roost! Any Rantbourgeois taking odds on Londistan vs Paristan? Which one will get to Sharia first?

Bloody hell, NMM, can't you even keep to the thread of the argument for even one sentence?! So your answer to excess conceptions is to kill the little chanters before they learn to speak? Lovely.

Keep up the rabid anti-British crap, btw. It's a funny substitute for actual arguments, which you don't seem to have, and it reminds everyone what a unbalanced nut you really are...
Posted by Bulldog  2003-10-31 3:44:27 AM||   2003-10-31 3:44:27 AM|| Front Page Top

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