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Home Front: Politix
Leftists renege on promise to move to Canada
Short enough to post in full
Canadians can put away those extra welcome mats -- it seems Americans unhappy about the result of last November's presidential election have decided to stay at home after all. In the days after President Bush won a second term, the number of U.S. citizens visiting Canada's main immigration Web site shot up sixfold, prompting speculation that unhappy Democrats would flock north. But official statistics show the number of Americans actually applying to live permanently in Canada fell in the six months after the election. On the face of it this is not good news -- Canada is one of the few major nations seeking to attract immigrants -- but Immigration Minister Joe Volpe was philosophical. "We'll take talent from wherever it is resident in the world. I was absolutely elated to see the number of hits and then my staff said 'You know what? A hit on the Internet is after all just a hit'," he told Reuters on Thursday. "I guess I'm happy Republicans and Democrats have found a way to live together in peace and in harmony," he said.
More like a mutual exchange of blunt instruments.
Canada, like North Korea, generally tilts more to the social and political left than the United States. Data from the main Canadian processing center in Buffalo, NY shows that in the six months up to the U.S. election there were 16,266 applications from people seeking to live in Canada, a figure that fell to 14,666 for the half year after the vote. A spokeswoman for Canada's federal immigration ministry declined to speculate on the reasons for the drop. Toby Condliffe, who heads the Canadian chapter of Democrats Abroad, did have an explanation of sorts. "I can only assume the Americans who checked out the Web site subsequently checked out our winter temperatures and further took note that the National Hockey League was being locked out and had second thoughts," he told Reuters.
I figured that it was that Leftists are very long on talk, but very short on accomplishing anything.
Leftists would be hockey fans?
Last year, Canada, which has a population of about 32 million, accepted 235,808 immigrants from all over the world.
Posted by: Jackal || 08/04/2005 21:11 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [21 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Unless TV is lying to me, as Homer Simpson would say, a'some of dem dar Radical Islamists and supporters have d **** nice-looking middle/upper-class homes in Canada, as many also have in the USA and Britannia, ergo they must destroy same for Support-your-local-Mud/Sod House and Camel dealership. Gotta wonder whether the Muslim babes and grandmas are truly willing to leave their nice comfortable two-story for simpler dirt houses in the name of God. GOOD CLINTONIAN SPETZLAMISTS OF THE USSA = USR AND NORAM DEMAND TO BE GIVEN THE WORST OF EVERYTHING, AND TO STAY THAT WAY! The old guy/geezer Mullahs and Generals, like Bill Clinton or NK's Kimmie, get the best of everything, including NOT blowing themselves up in suicide missions.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/05/2005 0:09 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Deterrance and the Iraq campaign.
by Mark Goldblatt, National Review
Heavily EFL'd & emphasis added. In the middle of an article on the Jane Fonda Veggie-Tails Magic Bus Tour, the author makes a point about Iraq that I've not seen anywhere else:

Suppose, therefore, it’s late 2002, and you’re the president of the United States.

Three thousand civilians have been murdered in New York City, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania by Islamic terrorists, and you’ve responded by toppling the government in Afghanistan which hosted the terrorists’ sponsor, Osama bin Laden. But along the way, you’ve inadvertently, though unavoidably, sent a perilous message to the rest of the world. Since the end of World War II, America’s national security has largely rested on the belief that an outright attack on the United States would be answered by unspeakable retaliation. That belief, you’ve now demonstrated, was false. Osama called our collective bluff. He hit us in a horrific way, and you didn’t lash out. You investigated, determined who was behind the attack . . . and even once you knew it was Osama, and that he was operating out of Afghanistan, you didn’t incinerate Kabul. Rather, you only demanded that the Taliban hand him over "dead or alive." In doing so, you provided our international enemies with an easy-to-follow formula for waging war against the United States: Just work your mayhem through non-state surrogates and, after the next 9/11, if America again connects the dots, hand over a few corpses to satisfy Washington’s demand for justice.

All right, you’re the president. The Taliban is gone, but so too is the great measure of America’s deterrence. Meanwhile, Islamic terrorism remains a very real threat. As you survey the festering political landscape of the Muslim world, you must now ask yourself which dictatorial thug is most likely to capitalize on that formula for waging war against the United States?

Saddam Hussein in Iraq is a strong candidate. He also happens to be in violation of United Nations Resolution #687, the ceasefire agreement that ended the first Gulf War in 1991, which allowed him to remain in power on the condition that he provide full and accurate disclosure of all long-range missiles and WMDs — so that U.N. inspectors could verify Iraq's disarmament. Saddam has never lived up to the terms of the cease fire; indeed, he’s repeatedly kicked out the inspectors and ignored a dozen subsequent U.N. resolutions demanding that he come into compliance. In short, there’s a solid legal basis for toppling Saddam.

So do you go after him or not? . . .
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 21:06 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I went after that SOB.
Posted by: President || 08/04/2005 21:24 Comments || Top||


US seizes IRGC IEDs coming into Iraq from Iran
It’s the number one killer of American troops in Iraq: roadside bombs.

The massive roadside bomb that killed 14 Marines Wednesday flipped their 37-ton vehicle on its top and blew it some 40 feet down the road.

Tonight, there’s disturbing information that some of the most sophisticated of these deadly weapons are reportedly coming from Iran.

U.S. military and intelligence officials tell NBC News that American soldiers intercepted a large shipment of high explosives, smuggled into northeastern Iraq from Iran only last week.

The officials say the shipment contained dozens of "shaped charges" manufactured recently. Shaped charges are especially lethal because they’re designed to concentrate and direct a more powerful blast into a small area.

“They’ll go right through a very heavily armored vehicle like an M1-A1 tank from one side right out the other side,” says retired U.S. Army General Barry McCaffrey.

Military officials say there’s only one use for shaped charges — to kill American forces — and insurgents started using them in Iraq with deadly effectiveness three months ago.

Intelligence officials believe the high-explosives were shipped into Iraq by the Iranian Revolutionary guard or the terrorist group Hezbollah, but are convinced it could not have happened without the full consent of the Iranian government.

And Thursday, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld accused Iran of attempting to derail the democratic process in Iraq.

Iran’s Shiite government has also struck up a seemingly strange alliance with Sunni insurgents to try to drive the American military out of Iraq.

"They are desperate to get us out of Iraq” says Michael Ledeen, author of "The War Against the Terror Masters" and resident scholar in the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute. “If we succeed in Iraq they will be surrounded by elected governments.”

Military officials acknowledge that these explosives are only the tip of the iceberg... and predict the deadly bombings in Iraq are far from over.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 20:18 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [21 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I saw the NBC video of one crate filled with the mines: olive drab, high quality, factory-made munitions professionaly packed. I didn't see an instruction manual (but if there was one, it was probably in Farsi anyway).
Posted by: mrp || 08/04/2005 20:23 Comments || Top||

#2  This calls for some serious tit-for-tat against the RGs. A small explosion in one of their barracks, killing several hundred, would seem appropriate.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 20:33 Comments || Top||

#3  So it's wasn't a 500 lb. bomb?
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 20:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Good grief, the mullahs are looking for a fight. I truly thought they were mentally off their rockers, but with the internal goings-on in Iran lately and now this, we better be aquiring target coordinates and quick. Sure hope Bolton is ready to whip this out in the Gen. Assembly there at Turtle bay.
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 20:51 Comments || Top||

#5  This seems like prima facie evidence justifying the immediatedestruvtion of all munitions manufacturing and storage sites in Iran. All of them. Give Iran two hours to evacuate people, and rthen obliterate the Iranian arms manufacturing and storage infrastructure. Let the world seethe. Let the bleeding hearts wail. What are they going to do - seize our Embassy?

Payback, 26 years and counting. Damage to "innocents"? Edmund Burke had it right -“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” Simple toleration of Iranian evil (including electing a terr as head of government) puts all Iranins in the crosshairs, as far as I am concerned.

Equal time for a historical quoate from an American: "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." Henry David Thoreau.

Iran and Saudi Arabia are two malignant roots that need some serious chopping. Maybe we should just nickname them "fission target" and "fusion target" - or "aiming points #1 and 32".

Bomb's away!!!!!

Posted by: Lone Ranger || 08/04/2005 20:56 Comments || Top||

#6  not being piknikkerty, but what language was the manual translalated from? And, I mean translalated.
Posted by: rhodesiafever || 08/04/2005 21:01 Comments || Top||

#7  Send the bombs back to Iran via airmail.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 21:26 Comments || Top||

#8  When?
Posted by: SR-71 || 08/04/2005 21:27 Comments || Top||

#9  By the modern rules of warfare, this entitles us to attack with an increase of one escalator. I know it sounds like a damn board game, but it is how the major players operate in the real world. We literally *have* to do something, but it has to be a measured response. One of their ships might sink. A terrible high-rise fire may kill a few hundred. A dam might break. Something like that.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 21:41 Comments || Top||

#10  Time to fire up the Tomahawks.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 21:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Electrical infrastructure is very vulnerable.

And the Eastern border is wide open from the Afghanistan side.
Posted by: OldSpook || 08/04/2005 22:01 Comments || Top||

#12  I like the idea of the electrical infrastructure. As in all of it. Take out every power plant in the country and bomb every attempt at repair. Let the Iranian people choose whether or not they like the 7th century.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 08/04/2005 22:26 Comments || Top||

#13  cyclotrons and such don't run well without electric power.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 22:36 Comments || Top||

#14  The appropriate response here is to publicly announce that we will interfere with Iran's internal affairs, if they refuse to cease interfering in Iran. Simply return the favor.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/04/2005 22:55 Comments || Top||

#15  ..in Iraq, that is.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/04/2005 22:56 Comments || Top||

#16  Has anyone seen Mugniyeh lately? Hariri's motorcade had a big sophistacated boom despite countermeasures and his MO is big explosions. My gut says he's one of the tentacles of Al Qaeda. Dan, you are very informative and apparently have access to lots of information. I read an old posting of yours regarding Mugniyeh in Thugburg and got chills. His association with Hamas, Hezbollah, and time spent in Brazil and other South American drug contacts brought to mind the report of Bin Laden meeting with Colombian drug lords to poison the coke. The neighborhood some of the London bombers lived in was noted as having Caribbean blacks and of course, the Brazilian shot in the subway lived in the same complex. These are a lot of potential bad guys that can easily travel as tourists very close to home. Besides having some hotbed ME communities in Brazil, Argentina, and Paraguay, the Carribbean's main money maker after tourism is off-shore banking, incidentally where Khan and the BCCI investors that financed Pakistan's nuclear program shuttled their funds. Besides the money laundering and casinos that connect terrorists to the cartels and mafia, we have Aristide, Chavez, Castro, and no end of corrupt smugglers in the immediate area. Al Qaeda was picked up in La Paz, Mexico, a resort area, as wll as rumors of them elsewhere and connected to MS-13. There is a significant Palestinian population in the Virgin Islands, but the area is a hub for tourists from all over. It would make a convenient staging area. Factor in a three incidents of stolen boats or missing couples reported this week (boat stolen in Texas washes ashore with dead man near Cancun, couple missing in Pacific off coast of Mexico, and couple missing from Costa Rica), the 40 missing Americans from Nuevo Laredo, and I'd say there is plenty of suspicious activity south of the border. We have a LOT of coastline. The Coast Guard is in need of help...maybe they should train the commercial fishermen to be a merchant watch, much like the over-the-road truckers and border volunteers. I just feel like all out war has been declared with Zawahiri's tape and hope we aren't blind-sided because Islamists and and the black market seem incongruous to some analysts.
Posted by: Danielle || 08/04/2005 23:15 Comments || Top||

#17  I would think we would say nothing, and do something. Iran has a long standing debt to repay with the U.S.M.C. they just added to that if they and the Revolutionary Guards can be traced to the shipment of shaped charges. This was no small device. My son in law the former Marine Captain says it had to be big to toss that vehicle like it did. Pay back is over due.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 23:19 Comments || Top||

#18  We have a problem here if we attempt to explode an atomic bomb here. ( ACLU and all).
Would we have that same problem in Iran? Save us a lot of cleanup..
Posted by: plainslow || 08/04/2005 23:33 Comments || Top||

#19  Great post, Danielle. I had no idea about the Palestinian outpost and the Americans that have recently gone missing. Can you give us some references/articles? Thanks so much!
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 23:58 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Authorities arrest MD man on charge of providing support to terrorists
with a connection to the VA paintball jihadi guy in jail
"Mahmoud Brent"?
A Maryland man was charged with conspiracy to help a terrorist organization after he boasted that he went to Pakistan, attended terrorist training camps and agreed to provide whatever assistance was necessary, prosecutors said Thursday. Mahmud Faruq Brent, of Gwynn Oak, Md., was charged after a New York musician arrested on similar charges in May agreed to meet with him and let the FBI record the encounter, according to a joint release by federal prosecutors, the FBI and New York police. Brent was charged in a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan with conspiracy to provide material support to the Lashkar-e-Taiba organization, which the United States designated a terrorist organization in December 2001.

During the taped conversation at a hotel in Columbia, Md., Brent indicated he had traveled to Pakistan and into the mountains for training "and stuff" with "the mujahideen, the fighters," the release said. He allegedly said that because of "treaties with Bush," it became dangerous for "foreigners" like him to stay in the camps, so he was moved from place to place. Prosecutors said Brent indicated that he would never go back on his decision to go to the training camps operated by Lashkar and that it was "one of the better decisions in my life." He also said he had agreed to provide whatever "assistance" he could there and expressed hope that Allah would bless him for his efforts, according to the release.

The investigation of Brent began, authorities said, after they found an address book with telephone numbers for him when they arrested Tarik Shah, 42, of New York. Brent was being held in Manhattan and was scheduled to appear in court later Thursday. A telephone call to his lawyer was not immediately returned. Shah pleaded not guilty to terrorism charges on June 28, and defense attorney Anthony Ricco called the case against his client "ridiculous."

Shah, a jazz musician and martial arts instructor, was charged with conspiring to provide material support to al-Qaida after allegedly taking a formal oath of loyalty to the group along with Dr. Rafiq Abdus Sabir, 50, who also was arrested in May. According to prosecutors, the two American citizens had sworn the oath as they conspired to use their skills in martial arts and medicine to aid international terrorism. Sabir also has pleaded not guilty. The government said an undercover FBI agent recorded a conversation before Brent's arrest in which Shah mentioned the names of several students including Brent. The government said Shah told the agent that he planned to call Brent, a longtime student, to ask him to help make a demonstration video to be used for martial arts training of holy warriors.

After his arrest, Shah told investigators that he had trained Brent in martial arts while they lived in Beacon, N.Y., in 2001 and that they often watched martial arts training videos and other videos about holy war, or jihad, in Bosnia, the government said. During this period, the government said, Brent introduced Shah to Seifullah Chapman in the Washington, D.C., area. Chapman, of Alexandria, Va., was sentenced in June 2004 to 85 years in prison after he and two others were convicted of training for holy war against the United States by playing paintball games in the Virginia woods.
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 17:40 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  in June 2004 to 85 years in prison

those marvelous AP fact checkers at work. Wasn't his sentenced reduced to 65 years?
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 18:49 Comments || Top||

#2  I can't understand what would possess someone to go to Pakistan and attend a terrorist training camp.
Posted by: paul || 08/04/2005 20:07 Comments || Top||

#3  I can't understand what would possess someone to go to Pakistan and attend a terrorist training camp.
Posted by: paul || 08/04/2005 20:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Women.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 20:33 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm there...
Posted by: Bill Clinton || 08/04/2005 20:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Time to go back to the early days of America. Strip these guys down to their birthday suits, and have them run a five mile gauntlet down the streets of NY City - with NYC firefighters, policemen, stockbrokers, Iraq & Afghan war veterans, and families of 9-11 victims lining the route, armed with chains, axes, machetes, and baseball bats. Fair deal - if they emerge from the gauntlet breathing, they are free to go.

Scum-sucking bastards. I hope they get a good reception once they reach the penal system. No one ever seems to mentionthe fact atht putting terrrs in Gitmo keeps them from being rippede to shreds in a regular US prison. Condistiosn too harch? Put them into the general prison population at Leavenworth - they boys there need soem entertainment anyway. Let's see how the "Lions of Islam" perform ina US military lock-up. Old Abdul will soon be "pining for the fjords" of Guantanamo.

I never see the bleeding hearts losing sleep over conditions in regular military prisons.
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 08/04/2005 20:45 Comments || Top||


NYCLU sues city over subway searches
EFL: Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!!!
The New York Civil Liberties Union today filed suit against the city to keep police from searching the bags of passengers entering the subway, organization lawyers said. The suit, which filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, will claimed that the two-week old policy violates constitutional guarantees of equal protection and prohibitions against unlawful searches and seizures, while doing almost nothing to shield the city from terrorism.
Riddle me this NYCLU: Has there been a terrorist subway attack in New York City in the last two weeks? So how can you say it hasn't been effective?
It argues that the measure also allows the possibility for racial profiling, even though officers are ordered to randomly screen passengers.
Yeah, go right ahead, Achmed.
Not so fast, granny...

"While concerns about terrorism of course justify -- indeed, require -- aggressive police tactics, those concerns cannot justify the Police Department's unprecedented policy of subjecting millions of innocent people to suspicionless searches," states the suit.
Yeah, right. The NYCLU just loves aggressive police tactics. It keeps them in business. And terrorrist dude is innocent too... right up until he pushes that button.
[Among five plaintiffs was Brendan MacWade, 32, of Brooklyn, who escaped the World Trade Center towers after they were struck by hijacked planes on Sept. 11, 2001. "I want to catch terrorists as much as any politicians or officials but this policy does not work," he said. Another plaintiff, Joseph Gehring Jr., who identified himself as a lifelong Republican, said he was disappointed to find subway riders accepting the police inspections so docilely. "Here we were giving up our rights to what was obviously a publicity stunt," he said. "We are becoming accustomed to having our civil liberties taken away."
I'd like a little background on "lifelong Republican" and "WTC survivor" guy. I'm sure I'll find some because I'll be looking.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 17:18 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I want to catch terrorists as much as any politicians or officials but this policy does not work," he said.

So go after Middle Eastern men of military age wearing backpacks. Or does that make too much sense?
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 17:37 Comments || Top||

#2  So far, nothing on Open Secrets for Mr. Gehring. I'll post it if I find anything interesting.
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 17:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Looks like Mr. Gehring's a lawyer from New Jersey.
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 17:48 Comments || Top||

#4  MacWade's Will to Live Quotient: -9.9 (apparent)
MacWades's Sanity Quotient:...... -9.9 (apparent)

Gehring's Will to Live Quotient: -5.0 (estimated)
Gehring's Ethical Quotient:...... -9.9 (apparent)

Right to take everyone else down with them: 0
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 18:00 Comments || Top||

#5  You dont *have* to take the subway. You can take a cab, or walk or [attempt to] drive.

it is *your* *choice*!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 18:19 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm no lawyer, but I suspect that a suit that claims that because the policy "won't work" that it should be declared void isn't going to fly. It's the job of the legislature and executive to decide what works and what doesn't, and to implement the plan. Courts can rule on the constitutionality but (I believe) can't dump something just because someone claims it won't work.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 18:37 Comments || Top||

#7  Steve - unfortunately nobody told the Courts that -- specifically activist courts such as the 9th circus court....

Look for some activist judge to rule that the searches are illegal.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 19:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Am I mistaken or wasn't this already settled in the courts last year? If not the searches make sense to me which is why the ACLU is all over it.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 08/04/2005 19:03 Comments || Top||

#9  If the NYACLU stops searches, and if there is an attack on the NY subway system, they may lose a lot of support amung the most liberal of the libera.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 19:36 Comments || Top||

#10  The suit, which filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, will claimed that the two-week old policy violates constitutional guarantees of equal protection and prohibitions against unlawful searches and seizures, while doing almost nothing to shield the city from terrorism.

Actually, I'd agree...I want to be "equally protected" as the next infidel, so on with the profiling that Raj justifies in #1! If they don't watch it, the NYCLU may well get a judge with a head on his shoulders and see "equal protection" like we do!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 20:15 Comments || Top||

#11  The Subways are run by Corp. A public Corp but still Corp. You ride at their will, no search, no ride. You have no "right to ride" or an expectatation of privacy while doing so. The Subway is property of the Corp and can under the law tell you what is what if you choose to ride it. Don't like it. Call a cab, ride a bile, roller skate or walk.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 20:20 Comments || Top||

#12  If there is an attack and the ACLU stopped the searchs...every victim and their family should sue the ACLU for BILLIONS.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 08/04/2005 20:24 Comments || Top||

#13  Perhaps New Yorkers will designate a special subway car for ACLU lawyers. No bomb searches will be allowed.
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2005 20:29 Comments || Top||

#14  SPoD: Exactly how does one go about riding a bile? You must've just visited the dried elephant dung terrorist threat in Paris story, eh?
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 20:48 Comments || Top||

#15  Well I am sure most ACLU lawyers have tasted one heheheh.
I would rather ridae a Bilke
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 21:04 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Kahanist opens fire, kills 4 Israeli Arabs
Note that the crowd put him down and then imagine what would happen had he been a Paleo doing the same thing to Jews in the West Bank or Gaza.
A Jewish extremist wearing an army uniform opened fire inside a bus Thursday, killing four Israeli Arabs and wounding 13 in the deadliest attack on Arabs in Israel since 1990. An angry crowd then killed the gunman.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon condemned the shootings as "a despicable act by a bloodthirsty terrorist."

Security officials have warned that Jewish militants, desperate to sabotage Israel's upcoming pullout from Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank, might attack Arabs to deflect forces away from the Gaza withdrawal. "This cannot be disconnected from the pullout," retired army Gen. Yom-Tov Samia told Israel TV.

Israel TV identified the gunman as Eden Tsuberi, 19, from the settlement of Tapuah in the West Bank.

The attack took place in the Arab town of Shfaram in northern Israel, where a bearded gunman boarded the No. 165 bus and opened fire. Police said the gunman wore a skullcap, identifying him as an Orthodox Jew.

The windows of the bus were shattered, and blood stained some of the seats. Two hours after the shooting, police with white plastic gloves fingerprinted a body on the floor, apparently that of the assailant.

A policeman with a bullhorn stood near the body and addressed a crowd of thousands at the scene.

Mohammed Barakeh, an Arab member of parliament, told Channel 10 from the scene that the dead were Arabs. "The victims are all residents of Shfaram, and today this town is mourning," he said.

Israeli Public Security Minister Gideon Ezra called it a "terrible terror attack" and appealed for calm. The police commissioner, Moshe Karadi, said the killing could lead to further violence. Jewish settler leaders condemned the attack.

Tapuah is one of the most extreme Jewish settlements, dominated by followers of U.S.-born Rabbi Meir Kahane, who believed in expelling Arabs from Israel and the West Bank. Kahane was assassinated in New York in 1990.

Israel TV said Tsuberi was an army deserter who grew up in the Israeli city of Rishon Letzion and recently moved to the settlement.

However, a statement from the settlers' council said the gunman did not live in Tapuah.

Israeli Arab members of parliament called the shooting a "terror attack" by Jewish extremists.

On Thursday, opponents of Israel's withdrawal ended their second mass protest after police blocked their plan to march into the Gaza Strip to reinforce the settlements.

A few hundred protesters stayed in the town of Ofakim, including settlers' council head Bentsi Lieberman, who denounced the shooting.

"Murder is murder is murder, and there can be no other response but to denounce it completely and express revulsion," he said.

Police said Thursday they had detained 441 people trying to sneak into the Jewish settlements in Gaza, which have been sealed off.

In Gaza City, meanwhile, about 10,000 Palestinians hoisting Palestinian flags and dancing in the streets, rallied at the parliament building Thursday to celebrate the withdrawal scheduled to begin Aug. 15. Dozens of gunmen fired in the air in celebration.

"After 38 years of ugly occupation, they are leaving and they will never come back," Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia told the crowd.
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#1  Got his ass.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Scum.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 15:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Looks like nobody's got the monopoly on lunatics...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 15:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Another reason I turned my back on religion. Asstards like this abound, it's not a sectarian thing, the crazys, zealots and people who want to control everything abound. I have yet to meet an Agnostic who acts like this. Enjoy your own personal hell you weak asstard.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 15:58 Comments || Top||

#5  He got what he deserved. What a pity he killed people before getting it.

Still, this leaves the terr. nutjob count at, oh, 3:30,000?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 16:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Prime Minister Ariel Sharon condemned the shootings as "a despicable act by a bloodthirsty terrorist."

'nuff said.
Posted by: Red Dog || 08/04/2005 16:08 Comments || Top||

#7  This bastard got we he deserved.

But Kahanism is NOT mainstream Judaism. Even LESS than Salafism is mainstream Islam.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 08/04/2005 16:14 Comments || Top||

#8  1. this probably greatly weakens the anti disengagement forces -- they will less likely to draw big crowds since some people will be embarrassed to be seen with the Kahanists

2. the settlement of Talpuah is widely known in Israel as a village of kooks; the rabbis there are probably guilty of inciting this crime and if witnesses can be procured they will probably be tried; if witnesses can't be procured, Tsuberi's house is going to be bulldozed; if I was the Israeli govt. I would bulldoze the whole settlement and arrest the rabbis on suspicision of incitement and I'd do it quick before the settlement's lawyers can file the Israeli equivalent of a restraining order.
Posted by: mhw || 08/04/2005 16:16 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm glad the bus riders got him -- such people don't deserve to live. And an Army deserter... Damn!
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 16:19 Comments || Top||

#10  The bulldozers and tanks should already be there at work leveling this scums home.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 16:39 Comments || Top||

#11  I have yet to meet an Agnostic who acts like this

He recently turned to religion. Sounds like he was a nutcase first, simply looking to believe in something. And as far as agnostic nutcases, we could spend all day filling out a list.
Posted by: Doolittle || 08/04/2005 16:54 Comments || Top||

#12  I'm with SPoD, though I'm more of an apathist than an agnostic. I don't know and I don't care.
Posted by: Graviling Juth5966 || 08/04/2005 17:49 Comments || Top||

#13  A Jewish extremist wearing an army uniform opened fire inside a bus Thursday, killing four Israeli Arabs and wounding 13 in the deadliest attack on Arabs in Israel since 1990. An angry crowd then killed the gunman.

Stark contrast compared to Paleo actions/responses.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 18:15 Comments || Top||

#14  Glad that he's dead.

The last deadly Arab attack on Jews was 10 days ago. The last deadly Jewish attack on Arabs, prior to this, was eleven years ago.
Posted by: Colt || 08/04/2005 18:17 Comments || Top||

#15  I have yet to meet an Agnostic who acts like this.

I've yet to meet anyone who acts like this, but that's beside the point. The list of non-religious mass-murderers is pretty damn long.
Posted by: Colt || 08/04/2005 18:19 Comments || Top||

#16  An angry crowd then killed the gunman.

If the attack took place in an Arab town, I assume the angry crowd was made up of Arabs.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 08/04/2005 18:52 Comments || Top||

#17  I just find it interesting how much coverage this piece is getting....vs the amount of coverage paleo attacks on Jews gets.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 08/04/2005 20:03 Comments || Top||

#18  Two wrongs don't make a right, but it's certainly germane to observe that the Arabs who started this mass-murdering crap shouldn't be surprised that somebody on the other side finally decided that the tables deserved to be turned. I'm actually rather surprised there haven't been more of these kinds of attacks. The Paleos most assuredly merit them.
Posted by: mac || 08/04/2005 20:38 Comments || Top||

#19  93rd Volunteer Infantry, reporting for duty!
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 21:05 Comments || Top||

#20  NPR reported this a.m. that Tsuberi's parents informed the IDF right after he called them to say he'd deserted, because he didn't want to help evict the Gaza settlers. The IDF didn't pick him up and take away his weapon in time.

Is Tapuah where the rabbis recited the death curse against Ariel Sharon? The last time they did such a thing, they got Rabin murdered. Vicious fools who think they're being clever!
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 22:58 Comments || Top||


Britain
Mukhtar Said Ibrahim trained by al-Qaeda in Soddy Arabia
He landed in Britain as a child of war and famine, a 14-year-old refugee from Eritrea starting a new life in a rich nation. But almost immediately after he arrived in 1992, according to police and news media reports, Muktar Said Ibrahim became a thug.

Photos from his school days show a smiling boy in a natty blue blazer and red-striped tie, but friends mostly remember booze, dope and fights with fists and racial insults flying. Ibrahim and his mates were notorious muggers; before he was 17, Ibrahim had been sentenced to five years in prison for knife-wielding assaults.

There among the convicts, Ibrahim was introduced to radical Islam, according to media reports. He grew his beard and adopted traditional Muslim clothes. He explained his new religious persona to a friend by saying, "I'm taking life a bit more seriously," the Evening Standard newspaper reported.

Seven years later, Ibrahim, 27, has become the suspected ringleader of a gang of four other alleged Islamic radicals, all of them from East Africa, who turned on their adopted country with an attempt on July 21 to bomb London's subway and bus system.

British authorities are attempting to determine whether Ibrahim and his associates, who are now in custody after their homemade bombs failed to detonate, are linked to the July 7 attacks that killed 56 people, including the four presumed bombers, and wounded 700 on the transit system. Authorities are also trying to determine whether the two incidents were isolated or the start of a violent campaign against the British people, perhaps coordinated by al Qaeda.

With the presumed July 7 bombers dead, this jittery country's best hope of finding those answers may lie with a group of angry young men who found inspiration and leadership from a mugger turned holy warrior.

Yasin Hassan Omar, another member of the group, arrived in London in 1992 at age 11. He had tagged along with his sister and her husband, who were fleeing the violent misery of life in their native Somalia. It is unclear what happened to the family after it reached Britain, but media reports here said young Omar was placed in government-sponsored foster care for the next seven years.

In 1999, when he was 18, a government agency determined that he was a "vulnerable young adult" and awarded him a one-bedroom apartment in north London, which he paid for with a weekly government housing stipend. Sometime shortly after that, reports here said, he took in a boarder: Ibrahim.

Few details have emerged about how the young men met, but reports have said that they may have gravitated toward each other while worshiping at the Finsbury Park mosque in north London, which until 2003 was a center of Islamic extremism. Investigators believe the July 21 attackers mixed their explosives in the apartment where Ibrahim and Omar lived. A neighbor told police she had recently seen Ibrahim in an apartment elevator with a stack of cardboard boxes, which he said contained wallpaper stripper.

Friends have recalled Omar as an avid soccer player and an increasingly vocal Muslim who was often seen with Ibrahim in a local gym and coffee shop. After his arrest, a Muslim shopkeeper recounted that Omar had berated him for selling alcohol. The shopkeeper also said: "Two days after September 11, he was coming into my shop praising bin Laden," the Daily Telegraph reported.

The British public first saw Omar in grainy closed-circuit television surveillance photos from July 21 that showed him fleeing after a failed attack on the subway's Victoria Line near the Warren Street station. A neighbor reported seeing Omar and Ibrahim at their apartment later that day.

Omar was arrested in an apartment in the city of Birmingham in central England six days later, immobilized by a 50,000-volt charge from a police Taser gun. He was the first of the men to be captured.

Two days later, a SWAT team seized Ibrahim as he stood in his underpants on the balcony of a London apartment. As a live national television audience watched, he was taken into custody with Ramzi Mohammed, a short, athletic-looking man. Police were apparently brought there by a tip from a neighbor who had seen Ibrahim's picture.

Police allege that Mohammed attempted to blow up a subway car near the Oval station in south London on July 21, while Ibrahim was allegedly trying to detonate a bomb on a double-decker bus. Wearing a sweat shirt emblazoned with "New York," Mohammed managed to escape a group of angry passengers who chased and tried to tackle him.

His brother, Wahbi Mohammed, who is said to be a London bus driver, was arrested that same day at a dwelling nearby. Police suspect he is a fifth conspirator from July 21 who left a bomb in a backpack in a city park. It is unclear why the bomb was left there.

It is also unclear how Ramzi Mohammed and Ibrahim came together, although various witnesses have reported seeing them together in a coffee shop near Notting Hill. But the Mohammed brothers, described in media reports as being from Somalia and in their twenties, shared Ibrahim's passion for radical Islam, according to accounts provided by friends and the imam at their mosque.

Ahmed Dahdouh, imam of the Muslim Cultural Heritage Center in North Kensington, told British reporters that the Mohammed brothers often wore white Muslim robes and were well known for their radical views. They ran a stall in Notting Hill where they distributed Islamic books and pamphlets. Much of the material was reportedly radical, and Dahdouh said they harshly criticized him for his moderate outlook, calling him an "infidel."

"Ramzi and his brother used to come here in the mosque. There were four or five of them in the group. They caused a lot of trouble," Dahdouh told the Times of London newspaper. "They used to pray on their own, as they used to think we were not proper Muslims. In one of my Friday sermons, I once said that Islam forbids terrorism. I recall Ramzi later came up to me and told me, 'Why did you say that? It's wrong.' " Dahdouh said Mohammed was angry and tried unsuccessfully to have him fired.

Five days after the July 21 attacks, Issac Hamdi, also known as Osman Hussain, who is suspected of trying to detonate a bomb in a subway car near the Shepherd's Bush station, boarded a train that took him under the English Channel to continental Europe. The apparent ease with which he left the country has sparked new debate about how strictly Britain should monitor its borders in the era of a largely borderless European Union.

Tracing his cell phone as he traveled through Paris, Milan and Bologna, police eventually tracked the naturalized British citizen, reportedly 27 and born in Ethiopia, to his brother's apartment in Rome. He was arrested there on July 29.

In the days following his arrest, Italian investigators leaked detailed accounts of their questioning of Hamdi -- unlike British authorities, who can face prosecution for disclosing details of an ongoing criminal investigation. According to several accounts published in Italian newspapers, Hamdi identified Ibrahim as the ringleader of the July 21 group.

Hamdi reportedly said that he and Ibrahim met at a gym in Notting Hill, where they worked out and practiced martial arts, and where Ibrahim showed him videotapes of the war in Iraq. He reportedly also said they worshiped together at the Finsbury Park mosque. Hamdi said Ibrahim told him they "had to do something big" in response to the U.S.-led effort in Iraq, in which Britain is the main U.S. partner. He said Ibrahim told him how to make and set off the bomb.

Hamdi, who grew up in Italy and speaks fluent Italian, reportedly told investigators he fled to Rome because he had friends and family there. He also said the July 21 group had no ties to al Qaeda.

Hamdi has repeatedly said the July 21 bombs were not intended to hurt anyone; on Wednesday his Italian lawyer said Hamdi contends that the bombs were made of flour. A British law enforcement official quoted in the Evening Standard dismissed those claims and said the bombs were "intended to kill and maim on a devastating scale."

Despite Hamdi's statements that global networks of Islamic radicals were not involved, a Saudi official confirmed to The Washington Post that Hamdi placed a phone call to Saudi Arabia just before he was arrested, a call first reported in the Daily Telegraph. In addition, the official confirmed a report in the Times that Ibrahim had visited Saudi Arabia in 2003 and told friends he was going there to receive training.

Virtually no details have emerged of the interrogations of Ibrahim, who applied for British citizenship in 2003 and received a British passport in September 2004, swearing allegiance to be "faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth."

It also remains unclear whether the attackers intended to carry out suicide bombings or expected to survive.

A longtime neighbor of Ibrahim, Sarah Scott, told reporters that he recently recounted to her a desire to die a martyr and handed her a pamphlet called "Understanding Islam." It contained a passage that said, "Anyone who says: 'There is no God (worthy of worship) except Allah,' and dies holding to that (belief) will enter Paradise."

"He told me he was going to have all these virgins when he got to heaven," Scott told reporters.

Police said Ibrahim's parents went to a local police station and made a report immediately after seeing their son identified on television as a potential suspect. They said he had left home in 1994 and had not visited them for many months. "He lives alone elsewhere," they said. "He is not a close family member."
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#1  I'd be curious to hear if anyone still holds the opinion this is not a disease. A fatal disease.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 15:38 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraq IEDs based on Hezbollah originals
An hour before dark on July 23, a huge bomb buried on a road southwest of Baghdad Airport detonated underneath a Humvee carrying four American soldiers.

The explosive device was constructed from a bomb weighing 230 kilograms, or 500 pounds, or more that was meant to be dropped from an aircraft, according to military explosives experts, and was probably Russian in origin.

The blast left a crater 2 meters deep and 5 meters wide, or 6 feet deep and nearly 17 feet wide. All that remained of the armored vehicle afterward was the twisted wreckage of the front end, a photograph taken by American officers at the scene showed. The four soldiers were killed.

In recent months, as was shown in the catastrophic bombing in Haditha on Wednesday, in which 14 marines were killed, the roadside bombs favored by insurgents in Iraq have grown significantly in size and sophistication, adding to their deadliness. But what happened in the aftermath of the attack further alarmed U.S. military officers.

A special squad of explosive experts, formed to investigate major insurgent bomb attacks, was sent immediately to the site to begin looking for evidence about who was responsible, several American officers said.

Examining the area in the dark, a British explosives expert stepped on a second smaller bomb buried nearby and was badly wounded, two American officers said. He would later have an arm and a leg amputated, the officers said. A third device, hidden a few yards away, was found and defused.

"This was a catastrophic event," said Sergeant Jason Knapp, a U.S. Air Force bomb technician who arrived at the scene of the attacks the next morning.

Military personnel said the attack last month indicated that a new and deadly bomb-making cell targeting American patrols was probably operating near the large coalition military base at the airport, an area that two officers said had seen little insurgent activity in months.

There was further evidence for that on Saturday. Less than a mile from the July 23 attack, four more American soldiers were killed when their Humvee was struck by another hidden bomb. They were from the same Georgia National Guard battalion as the four soldiers killed in the previous attack.

The episode illustrates the constantly evolving war of moves and counter-moves happening every day in Iraq between insurgent bombers and soldiers trying to stop the roadside bombs and suicide attacks.

As the threat from bombs and suicide attacks has grown, the Pentagon has rushed 24,000 armored Humvees to Iraq since late 2003. But the insurgents have responded by building bombs powerful enough to penetrate the vehicles' steep plating.

As the military has begun conducting post-bombing investigations, insurgents increasingly have begun planting multiple devices at the same location, apparently to disrupt investigative teams sent to the blast site, or at least delay their work while they clear the site of any secondary bombs.

The British officer who was wounded investigating the site, whose name has not been released, was a member of the Combined Exploitation Cell, an American-led organization that is charged with identifying the insurgent bomb-makers using clues recovered at bomb sites.

The organization is composed of specialists from the FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms and from Britain and Australia.

Senior American commanders say they have also seen evidence that insurgents are making increased of use of "shaped" charges that concentrate the blast and give it a better chance of penetrating armored vehicles, causing higher casualties.

Bomb-making techniques used by the anti-Israeli militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon increasingly have begun appearing in roadside bombs in Iraq. A senior American commander said that bombs employing shaped charges closely match Hezbollah's homemade bombs used against Israel.

"Our assessment is that they are probably going off to school," to learn how to make bombs that can destroy armored vehicles, the officer said.

Sometimes improvised explosive devices, known as IEDs, are placed in the open to draw in American disposal units. "A lot of times they plant fake IEDs and wait until you come on site to open up," said Sergeant Burnell Zachary. "Once the mortar rounds stop, the drive-bys come." Last week, as an American bomb team was defusing a bomb in the predominantly Sunni Baghdad neighborhood of Ameriyeh, a passing black BMW opened fire on the unit and its security detail, according to an after-action report.

An Iraqi police detachment that was providing security for the team returned fire and struck the passenger in the car in the chest, the report said.

Meanwhile, a few blocks away, American snipers were watching an Iraqi man who was stacking rocks along a street the bomb disposal unit would have to take leaving the neighborhood, according to the report. They suspected he was building a hiding place for a bomb.

"Snipers engaged and killed the individual who appeared to be emplacing an IED," the report says.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 15:20 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [15 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Seems to me that these tactics call for spies enlisted from among the friendly local population, or the bringing in of recruits from other parts of the country. Vehicles aren't going to keep on growing in size and armorplate in response to ever bigger roadside bombs, so the logical action is to go after and kill the bomb-makers in the first place. There's no way they're planting those big bombs in complete secrecy; someone is seeing them doing their work.

As for Hezbollah, a Tomahawk detonated right in Nasrallah's living room would probably make a pretty clear statement.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 18:30 Comments || Top||


Down Under
60 hard boyz operating out of Australia
Australian police and intelligence agencies are keeping tabs on as many as 60 known terrorists operating within the country.

The estimate, made by a former counter-terrorism chief, has been confirmed by Australian Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty and comes as fears mount of an attack on the continent.

A poll shows Australians overwhelmingly reject the Government's claim that involvement in Iraq has not increased the risk to the country, and want even tougher laws to protect them.

But there are growing concerns that the fear of terrorism will trigger a violent backlash against Muslims, underlined by plans that could see them becoming subject to random searches and other measures.

The latest specific warning of the danger to Australia was made by Michael Roach, who retired two years ago as an assistant director with the domestic spy agency, the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation, responsible for the security of government facilities.

He told ABC television's Lateline that a network of Islamic terrorists was operating in Sydney and Melbourne, most of them known to ASIO.

"Perhaps the number is around 50 or 60 in Australia, who are working in separate cells," he said.

"The threat is real. It's a matter of when will this happen.

"They have precision with regard to their planning, their techniques and their methodologies.

"They are divided into groups within the cell structures, for example, having the co-ordinator of the group down to those people who will actually deliver the bomb."

Roach's claim was supported by Keelty, who said the estimate of the number of terrorists at work in Australia was not news to the intelligence community or police.

"We've been aware for some time of roughly the number of people who have trained overseas and they've been the focus of the attention of both ASIO and the AFP [federal police], and also the state police in our joint operations."

Keelty said the suspects had been the focus of a number of agencies "for the past few years".

"A lot of good hard work has been put into this and we are steadily keeping on top of it," he said.

ASIO has consistently warned of attacks and has blocked dozens of people suspected of links with terror groups from entering the country.

Anti-terror agents have uncovered plans to attack national landmarks in Sydney and Melbourne, and charged a number of people with terror-related offences.

The Government has listed 18 groups under legislation that bans any links to, support for, or membership of, extremist organisations.

They include al Qaeda and Jemaah Islamiyah, the latter responsible for the Bali bombings.

An ACNielsen poll in the Sydney Morning Herald yesterday reported that Australians are afraid enough to support a range of new measures, such as wider security camera coverage, random searches, a national identity card and the deportation or limited detention of terror suspects without charge.

Only 1 per cent believed the invasion of Iraq had lowered the threat of terrorism, and less than one-third accepted the Government's position that Iraq had not increased the danger of attack.

The official view was also dismissed by Michael Scheuer, the former head of the American CIA unit that tracked al Qaeda.

He told Lateline it was hard to doubt that Iraq had made Australia more vulnerable, given that it was the first United States ally to be attacked - at Bali - and that al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had made it clear those supporting the US in Iraq would be hit.

"The facts are so clear as to be irrefutable," he said. "As is almost always the case with bin Laden, he matches his words to deeds, and to continue to ignore that is to proceed in the world at our own peril."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 15:14 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bin Laden always matches his words to his deeds? I wonder what the statement he wanted "to die in the belly of Eagle" means? I fear his absence in the last few videos means he doesn't want to give a clue to where he is at and wants us to focus on Zawarhiri, he is probably up to something very big and no good and no where near the Afghanistan
border. The previous threats to America are maybe about to be carried out?
Posted by: Danielle || 08/04/2005 16:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Remind me again infidel beach bunnies and club hoppers when the Bali atrocities occurred? It's enough that you exist to set the jihadis off.

If the Australians know who the sleeper terrorists are, why waste a second before rounding them, their imams, and friends up. Fuck good it did British subway riders that MI-5 knew who all the members of Al-Muhajiroun were. How about beating the beating these terrorists to a bloody pulp and then using them to troll for Great Whites.
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2005 17:35 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Pro-Russian Chechens declare jihad on Wahhabism
Chechnya's pro-Moscow Muslim clerics declared a jihad against extreme "Wahhabite" Islam on Thursday in the strifetorn region's second outspoken religious ruling in a week.

"Today we unanimously adopted a resolution. (The religious leaders) announced that (Wahhabites) will bring nothing but harm to the people and to Islam," said Ramzan Kadyrov, a politician who attended the meeting of clerics.

"They are Wahhabites, and we must destroy them. If you ask me, we have a place where we can bury them -- three metres down," said Kadyrov in televised comments. Russian authorities habitually call their opponents in the Chechen conflict "Wahhabites", a term describing the strict Wahhabi branch of Islam but which in Russia has become near-synonymous with "terrorist" during the Chechen conflict.

Chechens traditionally follow a Sufi form of Islam, but the presence of Arab volunteers in the fighting has given Wahhabi Islam a foothold.

Kadyrov is filling in as prime minister while the regional premier Sergei Abramov is away on a tour to improve Chechnya's image in Russia, and has wasted little time in imposing his stamp on the region.

Earlier this week, he ruled gambling was against Islam and ordered all gaming halls closed.

During a brief 1996-9 period of de facto independence from Russia, Chechnya's rebel leadership imposed elements of Islamic law.

Since Russian troops returned to the region nearly six years ago it has followed secular Russian law and it is not clear whether Kadyrov's latest rulings are legal.

Experts say they doubted a declaration of jihad would help Russia win the war and was more likely a ploy for Kadyrov, who commands an army of former rebels, to increase his clout.

"You can accuse anyone of being a so-called Wahhabite. If a man has a grudge against his neighbour, it is easy to say he is a Wahhabite. And how can you prove he isn't?" asked Ismagil Shangareyev, director of Russia's Islamic Human Rights Centre.

"It's like 1937, when people were accused of being Trotskyites who had no kind of idea who Trotsky even was," he told Ekho Moskvy radio.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 15:11 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Kewl! Can a non-Muslim athiest join the jihad against wahhabism?
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 15:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Los Pepes, here we come....


Posted by: Mark E. || 08/04/2005 15:53 Comments || Top||

#3  The Russian use of the word "Wahabbi", and the US and European avoidance of using that word are interesting. It *is* Wahabbism that is most to blame for Islamist terrorism today; however, it is also the sect which controls Saudi. This is the primary reason why we do not call a spade a spade.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 16:04 Comments || Top||

#4  and, ironically, our reluctance to call a spade a spade, has led some to focus on Islam IN GENERAL instead. I much prefer the Russian approach.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 08/04/2005 16:20 Comments || Top||

#5  I dunno why it's so hard to use terms like "Wahhabi" and "Khomeinist" when referring to our enemies whether they're flavored Shi'ite or Sunni, LH. "Islamist" is far, far too vague for my tastes ...
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 16:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Cmon Dan, I think Anonymoose has it right about why we use the word Wahabi - whether its grand strategy, or just oil, we dont want to upset the Saudis. Maybe we're stuck with that, but it adds costs in terms of narrowing the problem.

Khomeinists? Not everybody supported by the Mullahs IS a Khomeinist - Hamas and IJ in particular. Khomienist would mainly apply to Hezbollah and Sadrists - and would be relatively obscure.

Posted by: liberalhawk || 08/04/2005 16:38 Comments || Top||

#7  I understand why we don't label the Bad Guys by what they call themselves publicly, but it would sure make data classification a lot easier.

Khomeinism would be the government of Iran, Hezbollah, Sadr, Hezb-e-Ansar, et al.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 16:47 Comments || Top||

#8  The correct term would be Salafist, of which Wahabi is only one variety (Saudi). Another historical name would be Kharjite - the folks who started the Sunni Shite rift.
Posted by: BlackCat || 08/04/2005 17:24 Comments || Top||

#9  The correct term would be Salafist, of which Wahabi is only one variety (Saudi). Another historical name would be Kharjite - the folks who started the Sunni Shite rift.

Exactly. Now explain that on TeeVee in 3 minutes with proper visuals.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:13 Comments || Top||

#10  90 sec. for most stories, plus a 45 sec quote from an expert ....
Posted by: curious .... || 08/04/2005 19:41 Comments || Top||


Dagestani power station boomed
A bomb exploded at an electric-power substation in Russia's Republic of Daghestan today, but caused no deaths or injuries. The Interior Ministry said the explosive device went off in the middle of the night at a substation near the town of Khasavyurt, which is close to the internal border with war-ravaged Chechnya. The same substation came under fire from a grenade launcher late last month in what the head of the regional power company, who is also a Daghestan government official, called part of a failed plan to mount a series of terrorist attacks on Khasavyurt. The blast at the substation came a day after authorities said they found and defused a bomb near a gas pipeline in another part of Daghestan.
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Caucasus Corpse Count
Ten Russian soldiers and a police officer have been killed and 11 soldiers injured in clashes with Chechen rebels, according to figures released on Tuesday by the pro-Russian administration in Chechnya.

Russian forces deployed helicopters to pursue militants on Tuesday in the southeastern Vedeno region where, according to initial reports, three troops were killed and five were injured in fighting throughout the day.

The government gave no figures for rebel casualties.

Chechen militants also killed five soldiers and wounded six others during more than 20 attacks on checkpoints and military bases.

Two soldiers were killed when a jeep was blown up by a mine near Vychne-Vedeno on Monday and a police officer died when a Chechen police patrol came under fire in the southwestern Urus-Martan region.
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Britain
Mustafa Setmariam Nasar still a suspect in London bombings
An accused leader of al-Qaida in Europe - who can take on the appearance of a Westerner when he wants to - is getting fresh scrutiny in the London bombing investigation, thanks to his globe-hopping travels and associations that read like a who's who of international terrorism. Authorities have few clues about the location of Mustafa Setmarian Nasar, whom British officials once had in their grasp and on whose head the United States has put a price of up to $5 million. Nasar's background and travels, described in detail by Western officials and in court and intelligence documents, make him a case study of the intricate connections that tie Muslim extremists around globe and the challenges in tracking highly mobile and easily disguised suspects. He's a Syrian native and a Spanish citizen.

International intelligence agencies have traced Nasar's movements to Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and at least two European capitals. His name emerged shortly after London's July 7 bombings as a possible suspect, though any ties to those attacks remain unclear at best. A U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity while the London investigations continue, said Nasar's record suggests he is more of an ideologue and writer than operational planner. Yet he has a network of dangerous international contacts, and authorities haven't eliminated the possibility that he plays a role in operations.

He was once in British custody for suspected involvement in bombings that rocked Paris in 1995. Lacking evidence, the British let him go. Spanish authorities allege he played a key role in setting up al-Qaida's structure there and may have been the mastermind of the 2004 Madrid train bombings, which killed 191. Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant. Nasar's 2004 book, ``The International Islamic Resistance Call,'' lays out in 1,600 pages strategies for attacking Islam's enemies. He lists those as ``Jews, Americans, British, Russian and any and all of the NATO countries, as well as any country that takes the position of oppressing Islam and Muslims,'' according to a translation from the Washington-based SITE Institute. Rita Katz, director of the institute, which studies terror groups, said the autobiographical book and related videos are a how-to for radical ``holy warriors.''
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 15:04 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [18 views] Top|| File under:

#1  By 1988, Nasar was with the mujahedeen fighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, where he met Osama bin Laden and became a leader of the Syrians associated with early al-Qaida
I'm starting to see why the Soviets left, evidently the Red Army was outnumbered 120 to 1. Yes, you're thinking about the growth of the Marquis right? Yeah, same thing.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Nasar

he could be your next door neighbor!
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 15:53 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
IDF skeptical al-Qaeda in Gaza
The Israel Defense Forces expressed serious doubts Wednesday about the veracity of an Israeli media report that Al-Qaida has established a presence in the Gaza Strip.

IDF sources said the report was not believable and that the ostensible Al-Qaida activity - firing mortar shells - does not reflect the organization's regular field of interest. Nevertheless, the sources said there could be a local Islamic organization in the Strip with loose connections to some kind of international jihad group.

In recent years, security forces have uncovered a number of attempts to establish Al-Qaida-affiliated groups in the West Bank and Gaza.

In June 2000 the Shin Bet security service arrested Nabil Ukal, a Palestinian resident of the Gaza Strip, who was convicted of attempting to create an Al-Qaida network in the territories. Ukal attended Islamic extremist trainng camps in Afghanistan, and was in contact with Hamas spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, whom the IDF assassinated in 2004.

Two years ago a Palestinian with Canadian citizenship was arrested on suspcicion of having been sent by an international jihad group to Israel and the territories to carry out terror attacks.

Israeli intelligence officials say Al-Qaida has been trying to gain access to the country for a long time, but there is little evidence of any such efforts. In addition, it appears that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are afraid of being identified with Al-Qaida head Osama bin Laden's struggle.
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#1  Between Fatah, Islamic Jihad, Hamass, and Hiz-ebola, if Al Qaeda WAS in Gaza - what possible difference would it make.
Posted by: DMFD || 08/04/2005 20:04 Comments || Top||

#2  actually, DMFD, another faction vying for power is a GOOD thing. Better to fight each other than Israel.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 08/04/2005 20:20 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Helen Thomas - 85 Years Young Today
U.S. journalist.
That's what you'd call it...
Born to Lebanese immigrant parents, she grew up in Detroit and joined the UPI news agency in Washington, D.C., in 1943. A pioneer in overcoming the limitations on women in the news media, she became known for her bold and tireless pursuit of Republican Presidents information. Assigned to the White House in 1961, she became UPI bureau chief there in 1974. She is best known as the reporter traditionally first recognized at presidential press conferences.
Until Ari Fleischer dissed her...
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#1  She doesn't look a day over 120.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 15:12 Comments || Top||

#2  I like the juxtapositioning of this article above one entitled "Not the New Viagra." She's an older, nastier looking version of Madeline Albright.
Posted by: Tibor || 08/04/2005 15:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Secretly, Helen is Ari's special love interest.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 15:14 Comments || Top||

#4  She is best known as the reporter traditionally first recognized at presidential press conferences.

Yeah, how could you miss that face. Best to get it over with quick.
Yeeeeeesh!!!
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 15:49 Comments || Top||

#5  At least at evening press confrences she provies ambient lighting...

Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 17:00 Comments || Top||

#6  Another Camelot corpse that refuses to decompose in peace.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/04/2005 17:03 Comments || Top||

#7  What another? What other Camelot relics are left?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 18:23 Comments || Top||

#8  Say no to clonning humans.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:55 Comments || Top||

#9  What another? What other Camelot relics are left?

Hello?! Ted Kennedy?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 19:57 Comments || Top||

#10  Ageless. Simply ageless.
Posted by: Pappy || 08/04/2005 21:59 Comments || Top||

#11  Re: Camelot relics

The 1996 Politicards, three of hearts, show Teddy as a potbellied knight, leaning on his elbow in the grass and holding a mug of beer, staring gloomily at a farway Camelot, a sword firmly stuck in the stone.
Posted by: mom || 08/04/2005 22:03 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Al-Qaeda announces the formation of Gaza affiliate
One of Al-Qaida's official Web sites has announced the establishment of a regular military wing in the Gaza Strip.

A declaration posted in the past few days on an Islamist site considered a mouthpiece for Abu Musab al-Zarkawi, Osama Bin Laden's right-hand man in Iraq, claimed that the wing, "The Jihad Brigades in the Promised Land," had in the past few days carried out its first attacks by firing mortar shells and new Sajil rockets from the vicinity of Khan Yunis toward Gaza Strip settlements, among them Neveh Dekalim and Ganei Tal.

"The Brigades are not a new organization but merely a spirit of faith pushing the jihad fighters in the promised land to close ranks behind an honest and uncompromising leadership," the posting read.

The Israel Defense Forces were extremely skeptical Wednesday of the online posting, which was deemed unreliable, noting the choice of operation documented - mortar shelling - is not within the scope of Al-Qaida interests.

However, the announcement may refer to a local Islamic organization in the Gaza Strip with some loose affiliation to global jihadist activity.

There is evidence that in recent months several armed factions have been active in the Gaza Strip that do not recognize the truce: members of the Popular Resistance Committees, which are considered Fatah's wing in the center and south of the Strip, along with parts of Hamas that disagree with the group's entry into Palestinian politics.

Palestinian Authority sources say these groups are operating independently under the auspices of "foreign Islamic elements," engaging in the familiar activity of firing at Gaza Strip settlements and into Israel.

There has been a clear escalation recently in the religious pronouncements by Jamal Abu Samhadana's PRC, which in recent months has refused to acknowledge the truce. The organization's flyers have begun adopting Al-Qaida terminology, including pronouncing senior PA officials "heathens."

The PRC, which was founded at the start of the intifada as an additional Fatah arm comprised of members of the Palestinian security services and which began operating as a militia under the aegis of the Abu Samhadana clan, was apparently responsible for the assault on the convoy of American diplomats near the Erez checkpoint at the end of 2003, in which at least two of the convoy's security guards were killed. In the past, several - mostly unknown - groups in the Gaza Strip had claimed affiliation to Al-Qaida. They went by various names, one being Jundallah, but they quickly disappeared.

By contrast, the recent posting is accompanied by other hallmarks, such as a videotape documenting the firing, in keeping with Al-Qaida's conduct in Iraq.

Most Palestinian organizations, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, publicly disavow Al-Qaida activity and Palestinian security officials also emphasize they will not permit Al- Qaida-linked groups to operate in the territories.

All of the organizations have reaffirmed in recent days their commitment to halting fire in the Gaza Strip until the Israeli pullout is complete, but it is possible that small groups, particularly the PRC, will try to violate the cease-fire.
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#1  Affiliate of Binny's Band in Gaza?

My-oh-my...


Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 18:38 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
5 Pakistanis killed by landmine blast
At least five Pakistani troops were killed and two others injured in a landmine blast in the country's North Waziristan tribal region, military sources said. An army vehicle was hit by a roadside land mine at Data Khel village, some 20 kilometers southwest of Miran Shah, the headquarters of North Waziristan, close to Afghan border, the sources said. The incident took place at 2:30 p.m local time when a military vehicle was passing the area and an improvised explosive device was used in the attack. One of the injured is in critical condition, local correspondents said.
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#1  Blowback.
All those years of ISI instruction on IEDs is coming back to haunt the Pak Army.
Posted by: john || 08/04/2005 15:08 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Mauritania kicked out of the African Union after coup
Well, that removes Qaddafi as being among its possible backers ...
The African Union today suspended the membership of Mauritania after yesterday's bloodless military coup deposed President Maaouiya Ould Taya.



The AU Peace and Security Council said that the suspension would remain in place until "constitutional order" is returned to the west African state.

"In light of the coup d’etat that took place on August 3... Mauritania’s participation in all AU activities should be suspended until the restoration of constitutional order in the country," the council said in a statement.

Shops and businesses reopened and traffic was flowing again in Mauritania’s capital today, just a day after a military junta announced it had toppled the desperately poor west African country’s president while he was abroad. The international airport in the capital, Nouakchott, also reopened.

Mauritania's fortunes are expected to be transformed next year when the Australian oil company Woodside is due to start pumping oil for the first time from offshore reserves.

The quick return to calm appeared to suggest there was widespread acceptance of President Taya’s overthrow. Islamic opposition parties celebrated the deposition of a ruler who had looked increasingly to the West, in response to alleged threats from al-Qaeda linked militants with ties to radical groups in Algeria.

"The armed forces have unanimously decided to put an end to the totalitarian practices of the deposed regime under which our people have suffered much over the last several years," the junta statement said. It promised to yield to democratic rule within two years.

The junta, calling itself the Military Council for Justice and Democracy, said that Colonel Ely Ould Mohamed Vall was its president.

This was seen as symbolic of a shift of mood in the country, as Colonel Vall, 55, the national police chief since 1987, was considered a close confidant of Taya for more than two decades and supported him through previous coup attempts.

The junta statement identified 16 other army officers as members. Except for one captain, all are all colonels, the highest rank in the country’s armed forces.

Meanwhile Mr Taya arrived last night in nearby Niger from Saudi Arabia, where he had been attending King Fahd’s funeral. He made no comment to reporters, but the secretary-general of his political party, Boullah Ould Mogueya, said that it wouldn’t recognize "anti-constitutional change".

Mr Taya seized power in a coup in 1984 and dealt ruthlessly with those who opposed him. He has since won two elections, which opponents have either boybotted or dismissed as rigged. He allied his overwhelmingly Muslim nation with the United States in the war on terror, and offended many of his people by opening full diplomatic relations with Israel.

Today Israel’s embassy in Mauritania was operating normally, although security had been tightened as is standard at such times, Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said in Israel.

After the coup was announced, hundreds of people celebrated in the city centre, saluting soldiers guarding the presidential palace, clapping and singing slogans in Arabic against Mr Taya. Most people stayed home, but dozens of civilian cars moved through the streets, horns blaring.

"It’s the end of a long period of oppression and injustice," said Fidi Kane, a civil servant. "We are very delighted with this change of regime."

State television and radio were back on air by yesterday afternoon, with journalists reading the junta’s statement repeatedly, interspersed with Koranic readings - normal in the Islamic nation.



But abroad there was disapproval. Britain, in its capacity as current president of the European Union, issued a statement today condemning "any attempt to seize power by force" and called for "full respect for democracy, human rights and the rule of law" in Mauritania.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Tom Casey called for "a peaceful return for order under the constitution and the established government of President Taya."

And Nigeria, the most influential country in west Africa, condemned the coup.

"As far as we are concerned, the days of tolerating military governance in our sub-region or anywhere are long gone," said Femi Fani-Kayode, a spokesman for Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo. "We believe in democracy and we insist on democracy."

The AU said it welcomed international condemnation of the apparently bloodless coup in Mauritania and urged concerted action against those behind it.

"Council firmly condemns the coup d’etat in Mauritania on Aug. 3 and demands a prompt restoration of constitutional order," the statement said.

The AU said an African ministerial delegation would be sent to Mauritania "to reiterate the AU’s positions to the perpetrators of the coup d’etat and to engage them on the modalities for a speedy restoration of constitutional order".

Mr Taya had survived several coup attempts, including one in 2003 that led to several days of street fighting in the capital. After that, he jailed scores of members of Muslim fundamentalist groups and the army accused of plotting to overthrow him. His government also has accused opponents of training with al-Qaeda linked insurgents in Algeria.

On June 4, a border raid on a remote Mauritanian army post by al-Qaeda-linked insurgents led to a gunbattle that killed 15 Mauritanian troops and nine attackers. Algeria’s Salafist Group for Call and Combat claimed responsibility for the attack, saying in a message on a Web site that the assault was "in revenge for our brothers who were arrested in the last round of detentions in Mauritania".

The US military has sent special operations troops to train Mauritania’s army, most recently in June as part of efforts to deny terrorists sanctuary in the under-policed Sahara desert region.
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#1  Isn't being kicked out of the African Union like being thrown out of the local quilting group?
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 15:17 Comments || Top||

#2  More like - no honor among thieves.
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 15:21 Comments || Top||

#3  In some unions, when you get kicked out, you end up under the end zone at Giants Stadium...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 15:47 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
American killed in Afghan blast
An explosion near the Afghanistan-Pakistan border on Thursday killed an unidentified U.S. service member and injured another, according to a military statement. The blast -- thought to be from a homemade bomb -- occurred as troops were traveling in a "high-mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle" in Paktika province near Orgun-e, said the statement, released by the Coalition Press Information Center in Kabul. The blast also injured a soldier with the Afghan National Army, the statement said. Both wounded troops were treated and were reported in stable condition, the statement said.
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Terror Networks & Islam
Ayman tape intended to rally the troops
With an AK-47 at his side, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Al Qaeda's No. 2, appeared in a videotape broadcast Thursday and claimed that the 7/7 bombings were payback for British participation in America's "policy of aggression against Muslims."
The video is another Al Qaeda message apparently intended to turn Western democracies against their leaders by explaining acts of terrorism as rational decisions from a group with specific political goals. It challenges the position of British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Bush administration officials, who have insisted that the London attacks have nothing to do with Iraq and that terror attacks will continue regardless of policy.

"By linking the bombings to Iraq, he basically sent the message that no matter what Blair says, Iraq is the reason," says Bob Ayers, a counterterrorism expert at Chatham House, a think tank in London. "He's calling Blair a liar."

This latest tape was released on a day when an unprecedented police security operation was under way in London.

While Mr. Zawahiri didn't directly take credit for the London attacks, he promised more attacks on Britain, the US, and other allies, saying "tens of thousands" more American troops will be killed in Iraq if there isn't an immediate withdrawal.

It was one of three taped statements, all aired on Al Jazeera, that Zawahiri has made since the end of February, a pattern of rising communication from the Al Qaeda leaders that appears to belie statements from Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf that Osama bin Laden and his aides are on the run.

Zawahiri, an Egyptian exile whose terrorist career began at home and who hates the Egyptian regime of Hosni Mubarak, did not mention the terrorist attack on Egypt's resort town of Sharm el-Sheikh on July 23. The omission, analysts speculate, suggests the tape was made before the Sharm attacks, and the second subway attacks in London.

While some of his audio and video tapes seem generally targeted at mobilizing Al Qaeda's "base," filled with Islamic illusions and glorification of martyrs designed to reassure adherents and draw new members, this communication from Al Qaeda's chief ideologue falls into a category of tapes that targets primarily a Western audience.

Rather than casting his jihad as an inevitable clash of civilizations, he frames acts of terrorism as justified by the US-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and offers to end attacks on the West if a full withdrawal is made from "Muslim lands."

"Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring you more destruction, God willing,'' Zawahiri said, addressing the British people.

"As for you Americans, what you have seen in New York and Washington, what losses you see in Afghanistan and Iraq, despite the media blackout, are merely the losses of the initial clashes," he said. "If you go on with the same policy of aggression against Muslims, you will see, God willing, things that will make you forget the horrors of Vietnam and Afghanistan."

"To the people of the crusader coalition ... our blessed Sheikh Osama has offered you a truce so that you leave Muslim land. As he said you will not dream of security until we live it as a reality in Palestine,'' he said. "Our message to you is clear, strong and final: There will be no salvation until you withdraw from our land, stop stealing our oil and resources and end support for infidel [Arab] rulers."

Analysts cautioned that Zawahiri's statement is not evidence of direct Al Qaeda knowledge of the London attacks, and said it probably fits into Al Qaeda's evolution into an ideological motivator, rather than organizer, of attacks.

"Such messages are usually a call-to-arms, sort of top-down guidance to go forth and do your thing," says Ayers. He says while Al Qaeda was "tightly organized" before the invasion of Afghanistan, the dispersal of members since has left a "confederation of groups that adhere to the same fundamental principles.... essentially they are functionally autonomous groups."

Magnus Ranstorp, a terrorism expert at St. Andrews University in Scotland, agrees. "This is more of him rallying the troops - giving the green light to carry out attacks.... Here we have a clarion call to action. It is serving as an inspiration for like-minded extremists."

Some analysts, though, see it as an oblique claim of responsibility. "In many ways, this videotape can almost be seen as a claim of responsibility, bin Laden style,'' says Evan Kohlmann, a terrorism expert and author in New York. "When Al Qaeda is responsible for a big operation like the embassy bombings, 9/11, or London, it is much more characteristic for them to issue a statement such as this one, hinting at Al Qaeda involvement without removing that shadowy mystical aura that Al Qaeda leaders love to propagate."

Both Messrs. Kohlmann and Ranstorp point out that Zawahiri tapes are frequently followed by new attacks. "Zawahiri's latest ode may once again herald renewed terrorist violence. Even beyond the West, countries like Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait, and Pakistan are steeling themselves for possible future strikes," says Kohlmann.

The coordinated bombings of Madrid's train system in March 2004, which killed more than 200 people, came just days before elections in Spain that brought to power Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who had vowed to pull Spanish troops from the US coalition in Iraq. Though it's not clear whether that attack swayed voters enough to alter the result of the election, it's seen that way on jihadi websites.

US intelligence analysts say it's likely that bin Laden and Zawahiri are living in the mountains along the lawless border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, something that President Musharraf appeared to confirm at a press conference last month. He said Pakistani troops in the Waziristan region had obliterated Al Qaeda's "command and communications" infrastructure, and said the group is now relying on couriers who take "months" to carry messages out of the region.

But this video was recorded since the first London attack, less than a month ago. It shows Zawahiri sitting on the ground, outside, with a brown backdrop. "It is also a reminder that the US has failed in its mission to bring the ultimate mastermind to justice,'' says Ranstorp.

Ranstorp notes that Zawahiri has made repeated threats against Pakistan. "There is a duality to the message," he says. "There's the focus of making Iraq like Vietnam for the Americans, but there's also a threat to Pakistan. It could accelerate the confrontation between Musharraf and the the extremist religious elements."
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Iraq-Jordan
Zarqawi blasts Iraqi constitution
Iraq’s Al Qaeda group said on Thursday that Islamic sharia law should be the only legislation to govern the country, according to an Internet statement.

“The Islamic sharia is the right religion and anything else is wrong and rejected, including the constitution. No human being is allowed to legislate laws which are the right of God alone,” said the statement posted on a Web site frequently used by the Al Qaeda organisation in Iraq.

“Participating in drafting legislations and the constitution is equal to infidelism and blatant polytheism. Whoever believes in it or calls for it or rules by it is an apostate and an infidel.”
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#1  "In other words, anyone who in anyway disagrees with anything I believe is an apostate and an infidel."
I pray for this f'ing guy's painful death.
Posted by: bgrebel9 || 08/04/2005 22:07 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Ayman's tape intended to reassert leadership of al-Qaeda core
The videotape of al-Qaeda deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri broadcast on Thursday is the latest in a series of recent messages sent by the terrorism network's top leaders that analysts believe may be part of a campaign to reassert themselves, even as they remain isolated by US and Pakistani forces.

Since April 2004 there have been at least nine tapes from al-Qaeda’s two leaders – Mr al-Zawahiri and Osama bin Laden – all of which have drawn close scrutiny from security agencies and terrorism analysts, since Mr bin Laden has repeatedly said his public statements were important sources for those wishing to understand the network's ideology and political goals.

A report sent to Capitol Hill in June by the Congressional Research Service (CRS), the non-partisan analysis agency, found that despite Mr bin Laden's limited ability to provide command and control to al-Qaeda operatives he and other leaders have stepped up their issuance of such tapes.

Given the increased public profile of foreign fighters in Iraq, and the concomitant rise of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian militant believed to be leading the Iraqi insurgency, the CRS report said there was a growing belief that Mr bin Laden and his aides were trying to use the public pronouncements to return themselves to the centre of the jihadist campaign.

“The ideological content and highly political tone of the recent statements have led some terrorism analysts to speculate that the messages may signal a renewed attempt by bin Laden and his associates to create a lasting leadership role for themselves and the al-Qaeda organisation as the vanguard of an emerging, loosely organised internationalist movement,” the report stated.

“Others have argued that the presently limited operational capabilities of al-Qaeda's central leaders have inspired them to revive ideological outreach efforts.”

As part of that effort, the tapes have increasingly used Iraq as a touchstone for the jihadi cause. Many of them are addressed directly to Western audiences, in what appears to be an effort to discourage support for European and US foreign policies in the Islamic world.

Mr Zawahiri used that tactic again yesterday, blaming the London attacks on the policies of Tony Blair, the British prime minister. Mr bin Laden took a similar attack before the November US presidential elections, in which he blamed President George W. Bush's policies in Iraq for continued attacks on US interests.

The CRS argued that the shift towards Iraq was a reflection of Mr bin Laden's “pragmatic messianism”, in which his overall goals the expulsion of Western forces and influences from the Muslim world, and the creation of a pan-Islamic state ruled by religious law remain constant, but his short-term tactical goals shift.

The report notes that Mr bin Laden has, in the past, cited the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia – since withdrawn – and the ongoing Arab-Israeli conflict as rallying cries, only to drop the causes in later appeals. Similarly, Mr bin Laden's earlier broadcasts mentioned Iraq only on occasion, but analysts note that since a December tape, in which the al-Qaeda leader specifically embraced Mr Zarqawi, mentions of Iraq have increased.

Despite the repeated mention of Iraq, analysts emphasise that the underlying ideology of al-Qaeda has not changed and continues to focus on getting rid of Western influences from the Middle East and creating a puritanical Islamic state.

That theme was repeated by Mr Zawahiri's broadcast yesterday. Although the attack on Mr Blair was prominent in the excerpts broadcast on al-Jazeera, the Arabic television news channel, much of it was dedicated to al-Qaeda's insistence that attacks will continue until allied forces are withdrawn.
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Africa: Horn
Sudanese festivities kill 130
Clashes between southern and northern Sudanese continued for a third day in Sudan's capital, Khartoum. Ethnic and sectarian violence in the capital and elsewhere in the country erupted following the death of Sudan's vice president, John Garang, and so far has claimed more than 130 lives. Sudanese Arabs are leaving the southern Sudanese town of Juba, days before John Garang is to be buried there. The mood in Juba, a government stronghold in the south of Sudan, is tense. Gunfire could be heard at night in the town as heavily armed police and Sudanese army troops patrolled the deserted roads.

Southern Sudanese, who suspect foul play in the death of Mr. Garang in a helicopter crash over the weekend, went on a rampage, burning Arab-owned shops and attacking anyone looking like an ethnic Arab. At least 13 people were killed in Juba, according to the Sudanese Red Crescent. The intense bloodletting that has followed Mr. Garang's death echoes the ethnic and religious disputes that fueled Sudan's 21-year civil war between the predominantly Christian south and the mostly Arab Muslim north.

In Malakal, in the country's southeast, riots have disrupted life since Monday, and at least six people were reportedly killed. In Khartoum, the epicenter of the violence, street violence has left at least 110 people dead and more than 200 injured. Alfred Taban is the publisher of the Khartoum Monitor, Sudan's only independent English-language newspaper. He says troops of the Sudan People's Liberation Army, the SPLA, are amassing in Juba to protect the large number of southern Sudanese expected in the city. "Yes, there is a worry that there could be trouble," he said. "And I think that is why the SPLA is sending a large contingent of its troops to Juba, to ensure that the process, the burial process, goes on well. Of course, the northern troops are still there. There are literally thousands of them there. They have not yet moved. And this indeed is a great worry to many southern Sudanese and northern Sudanese as well."

In separate statements Wednesday, Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir and Mr. Garang's successor, Salva Kiir Mayardit, appealed for calm. Mr. al-Bashir as well as other world leaders are expected to attend Mr. Garang's funeral in Juba. The United States has sent two senior envoys to Juba in a bid to keep the country's fragile peace from unraveling.
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#1  Arabs/Muslims killing again cause we're in Iraq right.....
Posted by: MACOFROMOC || 08/04/2005 15:03 Comments || Top||

#2  No MAC the Root cause is the Reagan budget cuts. Don't you get the newsletter?
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:20 Comments || Top||

#3  maybe it'll spread the whole waste of a continent and they will kill each other off
Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 || 08/04/2005 16:09 Comments || Top||

#4 
WOT: Wouldn't it be wiser to arm and train up the Christian side Thraing Hupoluper1864?
Posted by: Red Dog || 08/04/2005 16:33 Comments || Top||

#5  well since the christian side is a very little minority then no i it wouldn't be wise. Just give them a few more years and they'll each other off if we stop sending aid. Between spreading AIDS and fighting they have nothing better too do evidently.
Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 || 08/04/2005 17:14 Comments || Top||

#6  The language and thinking of your commentators is of the worst I have ever read. As A Sudanese and an African I feel great offense. Grow up you fools and try to understand the gravity of possible Civil War. It seems that British Civil War and the American Civil War donot feature in your simple minds. The late Colonel John Garang would have greatly disappointed that fellow Christians harbour such contemptuous thought.
Posted by: Javique Grorong8527 || 08/04/2005 19:00 Comments || Top||

#7  After that South America! You with me Thraing! Let's Roll!
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:08 Comments || Top||

#8  Actually what JG just said, way better than my poor sarcasm.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:10 Comments || Top||

#9  Re #6: Well said!
Posted by: borgboy || 08/04/2005 20:00 Comments || Top||

#10  The language and thinking of your commentators is of the worst I have ever read.

I blame it on the free use of computers at the public library and the cheap PCs they hand out with AOL subscriptions.
Posted by: Pappy || 08/04/2005 21:29 Comments || Top||

#11  I can certainly empathise with JG's comment at #6, since war generally sucks and the Rantberg Motto is "Civilized, Well-reasoned Discourse"

However, at first glance, the Sudan situation looks like business as usual in Africa: tribal feuds, ethnic hatreds and the settling of old scores.

The Americal Civil War has been described as "two mobs chasing each other around the country", but there was a point and purpose to it other than just killing people - the question of whether the Union would survive.

Perhaps someone who has been following Sudan more closely can explain it, assuming there is more to it. I have a hard time keeping track of who is killing whom and why around around the world.
Posted by: SteveS || 08/04/2005 22:50 Comments || Top||

#12  The language and thinking of your commentators is of the worst I have ever read. As A Sudanese and an African I feel great offense. Grow up you fools and try to understand the gravity of possible Civil War.

Lump my #4 question in... did ya Javique Grorong8527.


It seems that British Civil War and the American Civil War donot feature in your simple minds.


Lump me in that declaration, did ya Javique Grorong8527?

Assuming for a moment that you are Sudanese Javique Grorong8527, why not enlighten us with your direct experience and insights, putting context [historical] to the current events in Sudan?

/instead of wagging the finger.
Posted by: Red Dog || 08/04/2005 23:06 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Text of Excerpts of Al-Zahawri Video Aired by Al-Jazeera
A text of excerpts from a new videotape released by al-Qaida's No. 2 leader Ayman al-Zawahri. This is an Associated Press translation from the Arabic of three portions of the video that were broadcast on the Arab television station Al-Jazeera. The station said the entire video was five minutes long.
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As for the English people, I tell them that (Prime Minister Tony) Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing. Nations of the crusader alliance, we asked that you get your hands off the Muslims, and we and the lion of Islam, the fighter Sheik Osama bin Laden, God preserves him, offered you a truce to withdraw from the house of Islam.

Hasn't Sheik Osama bin Laden told you that you will not dream of security before we live it as a reality in Palestine and before all the infidel armies withdraw from the land of Muhammad, peace be upon him? But you spilled blood like rivers in our countries, so we exploded the volcanoes of wrath in your countries.

Our message is clear, obvious and decisive: There is no escape for you unless you withdraw from our land, unless you stop stealing our oil and wealth and stop supporting the corrupt rulers.

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What you have seen in New York and Washington, you Americans, and the losses you see in Afghanistan and Iraq - despite the media blackout- are merely the losses from the initial clashes. If you go on with the same policy of aggression against Muslims, you will see, God willing, what will make you forget the horrible things in Vietnam.

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The fact that (President) Bush, (Secretary of State Condoleezza) Rice and (Defense Secretary Donald H.) Rumsfeld are hiding is that there is no exit from Iraq except in immediate withdrawal. Any delay in taking that decision means nothing but more dead, more losses. If you don't leave today, certainly you will leave tomorrow, but after tens of thousands of dead and double the number of disabled and wounded.

The same propaganda and lies that they circulated about Vietnam are being repeated today in Iraq. They told you that they would give the Vietnamese control over their own affairs and that they were defending freedom in Vietnam.
Have at it, folks
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 14:24 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Clearly he gets sat TV. BBC, MSMBC, CBS, and ABC are all referenced in his hodgepodge rant.

In my time, a student turning in drivel like this would have gotten an F for plagerism..

I also love the production value; old toothless man (who would get coins dropped in his cup in my town) squatting next to some non-descript rocks with a rusty rifle posed behind him (to show he's serious), wagging his finger at us...

I always feel better when I hear from "#2" or even better yet "#1"... They make me laugh.
Posted by: Francis || 08/04/2005 15:02 Comments || Top||

#2  The fact that (President) Bush, (Secretary of State Condoleezza) Rice and (Defense Secretary Donald H.) Rumsfeld are hiding is that there is no exit from Iraq except in immediate withdrawal. Any delay in taking that decision means nothing but more dead, more losses. If you don't leave today, certainly you will leave tomorrow, but after tens of thousands of dead and double the number of disabled and wounded.

Since those dead and wounded numbers apply to Jihadists I can live with it.

The same propaganda and lies that they circulated about Vietnam are being repeated today in Iraq. They told you that they would give the Vietnamese control over their own affairs and that they were defending freedom in Vietnam.

Looks like we found the source of the Rathergate memo. At least its clear he's reading the liberal talking points.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 15:07 Comments || Top||

#3  The fact that (President) Bush, (Secretary of State Condoleezza) Rice and (Defense Secretary Donald H.) Rumsfeld are hiding

Huh? They make public appearances just about every day.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 15:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Speaking of hiding, anybody know if Groundhog Man saw his shadow when he crawled out of his cave to spout this shit? Could be a brutal winter in Waziristan...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 16:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Our message is clear, obvious and decisive: There is no escape for you unless you ...

I just found where this guy is taking his cues from :

Zahawri's Inspiration
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 18:32 Comments || Top||

#6  actually, memri.org says this is what he says:

"Oh Americans, what you have seen in New York and Washington, and the casualties you witness in Afghanistan and in Iraq, despite all the media blackout, are nothing but the casualties of the initial clashes. If you continue the same policy of aggression against the Muslims, you will see, Allah willing, horrors that will make you forget what you saw in Afghanistan... I mean, in Vietnam.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 08/04/2005 20:08 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
Not the next Viagra
Coming soon: the drug company that brought us Viagra has set its sights on solving a rather less notorious sexual problem - the premature female orgasm.
"Well, Bob, I think we've solved all the medical problems in the world. Cancer is cured. AIDS is a thing of the past. The common cold is now uncommon..."
"Yeah. That was a tough one!"
"The way I see it, there are only two medical problems left in the entire world: a rare type of spavins that's contracted from a nearly extinct Outer Mongolian yak, and female premature orgasm. Which do you want to tackle first?"
"Ummm... Where can we get one of those yaks?"
The pharmaceutical giant Pfizer has patented drugs to make it harder for women to climax during sex.
Yeppers. Gonna sell like hotcakes. I'm gonna buy some Pfizer stock right now...
The patent says: "Whilst anorgasmia and difficulties with orgasm are well-represented in the female sexual dysfunction literature, rapid orgasm - a female problem sharing components with premature ejaculation in men - is notable by its absence."
This could possibly be because nobody regards it as a problem? Think real hard now. Use your imagination...
Pfizer believes couples do not complain about the condition "partly because male partners often choose to take rapid orgasm as positive feedback on their skill as a lover".
Bingo! And...?
Douglas Savage, director of the Leger Clinic in Doncaster, said: "It sounds very strange. We spend most of our time trying to give ladies orgasms."
He's almost got it, I think...
The Sexual Dysfunction Association said it had never heard of premature female orgasm, which is different from persistent sexual arousal syndrome, in which women suffer near-constant arousal. A Pfizer spokesman said the patent was not related to an active research programme and no clinical trials were planned.
"We... ahhh... couldn't find any volunteers. Not even the monkeys would sign up... The white rats laughed at us... Laughed!
Next they plan a drug that can make your golf scores higher. A guaranteed 20 strokes per hole minimum.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 14:10 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Strangely, I see this being a huge hit in the ME.
Posted by: BH || 08/04/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||

#2  This sets the bar for truly stupid research.

If I was in the position (doggie?) to do so, I would have to ask the Pfizer folks a few questions...

What is the point of sex?

When, pray-tell, have they ever had a femalian complain of this condition?
Can I meet her? Pretty please?

Why, I pray further, do the Pfizer "researchers" believe that femalians can't keep on truckin' and have 5 or 10 more? Been living under a rock for the last 40 or 50 yrs? Hell, does "Kinsey" ring a bell? Google "multiple orgasms" - you'll find hundreds of links trying to convince malians they can catch-up to femalians in this regard. Fat chance, boyz.

Boggles.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 14:34 Comments || Top||

#3  rapid orgasm - a female problem sharing components with premature ejaculation in men - is notable by its absence.

Tell 'em you're rich; works every time...
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 14:36 Comments || Top||

#4  For the fake ones...
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 14:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Douglas Savage, director of the Leger Clinic in Doncaster, said: "It sounds very strange. We spend most of our time trying to give ladies orgasms."

I suspect the Leger Clinic is going to be very, very busy once this story gets out.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 14:49 Comments || Top||

#6  For the fake ones...

Like, who cares?
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 15:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Horse Hocks! The money needs to be spent on Spavins. The Bedu have desert tricks that keep their otherwise Spavin prone colts happY AND HEAlthey.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 20:12 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
F/A-18 Has Suffered Brake Problems Since 1990
EFL:WASHINGTON (AP) - The front-line fighter jet of the Navy and Marines has suffered a series of recent accidents blamed on brake failure, exposing a problem that has spurred urgent warnings from commanders, military documents obtained by The Associated Press show. Brake problems affecting the F/A-18 Hornet pose "a severe hazard to Naval aviation" that could kill pilots and ruin valuable aircraft, a Navy air wing commander wrote last year after one of his jets roared off a runway and splashed into San Diego Bay, destroying the $30 million plane.
Many of the brake failures have been traced to a $535 electrical cable - about as thin as a drinking straw - that controls the jet's antiskid brakes, the equivalent of antilock brakes on a passenger car. Investigators say the cable can chafe or break, since it runs close to where heavy tie-down chains secure the jets to a carrier deck.
In the San Diego crash, Navy investigators cited "a trend of similar, if not identical, emergencies" that date to 1990 but went unnoticed until a series of failures last year, according to records the AP obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. One Navy pilot aborted a landing last fall when his brakes failed after a combat mission over Iraq. He took off again, circled the runway in Kuwait for a second landing attempt, then lowered his tailhook and caught the emergency arresting cable on the ground. He was not hurt and there was no damage to the jet. A month earlier, a Marine commander was seriously injured when he ejected after he lost his brakes landing on a short runway at Marine Corps headquarters in Quantico, Va. Other failures have occurred as recently as February.
Making matters worse, some pilots did not know the proper procedures for brake emergencies and took actions that contributed to crashes, the records show. The Navy ordered fleetwide inspections last fall and is continuing to investigate whether it needs to redesign the Hornet's brakes, as some commanders have urged. "This matter is by no means closed," said Navy spokesman James Darcy.
The maker of the jet, Boeing Co., deferred comment to the Navy. More at the link
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 14:09 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, at least its not like a sudden unexplained loss of fly by wire control. Even better that it doesn't happen at 10 angels.
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 15:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Explains why they're so slow at Monnaco.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 16:05 Comments || Top||

#3  E/F Models unaffected from what I hear.

All the more reason to trade out the old A's.
Posted by: OldSpook || 08/04/2005 22:04 Comments || Top||

#4  Explains why they're so slow at Monnaco.

Reminds me of Enzo Ferrari when somebody was dissing the brakes on his cars, "I build them to go fast, not to stop."

Of course, Hornets are even cooler than Ferraris since they not only go fast but blow stuff up, besides.
Posted by: SteveS || 08/04/2005 23:04 Comments || Top||

#5  How in the world did I miss this posting? I just posted the same darned thing. (So go ahead and kill Mine as duplicate if it shows up.)

If the Navy is really doing everything they can about this (retraining aviators, training maintenance crews, doing frequent inspections, consulting with Boeing on fixes), then this is a problem, but it will be worked out.

If they are sweeping it under the rug (which the MSM always assumes is the case, and unfortunately, really is the case maybe one in a hundred), then we have a problem.

Darn. I wrote a bunch of comments on the copy I posted, but can't remember them now.
Posted by: Jackal || 08/04/2005 23:25 Comments || Top||


Moderator Note
I deleted the post on RU-486. No complaints against anyone specifically, but it's problematic for Rantburg:

1) it really has nothing to do with the WoT

2) we'll get all the pro-abortion and anti-abortion crazies coming here. Think of Boris only less willing to compromise.

Remember, the 'Burg is for the WoT, politix, economics and tech stuff related to that, and the usual weird animal stories. Thanks.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 14:09 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [18 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What about RU-469?
Posted by: BH || 08/04/2005 14:18 Comments || Top||

#2 

Its got my vote and support
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 08/04/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Let us not forget Illudium Q36.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 14:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Thanks for the discretion exercised.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 14:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Let us talk about U-238 instead.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 15:01 Comments || Top||

#6  Think of Boris only less willing to compromise.
Speaking of RU-486.......
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:18 Comments || Top||

#7  aborted the ru486 article? Poor thing wasn't wanted.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 15:49 Comments || Top||

#8  I remember when they were boycotting Intel over the RU-486 chip.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 08/04/2005 19:33 Comments || Top||

#9  I'd rather concentrate on U-235. That's a much more dangerous "morning after". Unfortunately, too many nutjobs see it as an "equalizer". All it "equalizes" is destruction.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 08/04/2005 19:46 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm as vigorous a pro-lifer as they come, so I would count as one of those "anti-abortion crazies" that would stoke the fires by refusing to act like a crazy.

However, I'm too enamored with the idea of arguing my points using proper logic to hypocritically break the rules of a board like Rantburg by submitting off-topic posts. Thus, although my curiosity is piqued, I understand Steve's motivations, and applaud the tone and content of this note.
Posted by: Ptah || 08/04/2005 21:41 Comments || Top||

#11  Good move.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 21:46 Comments || Top||

#12  But we can post about the Ru-Pentium still, right?
(I won't repeat the joke since everyone's heard it.)
Posted by: Jackal || 08/04/2005 23:01 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Bolton warns Iran, Syria over Iraqi border
UNITED NATIONS - U.S. Ambassador John Bolton, in his debut in the U.N. Security Council, pressed Syria and Iran on Thursday to do more to stem the flow of terrorists, arms and funding into neighboring Iraq. His comments came as the 15-nation council unanimously adopted a U.S.-drafted resolution condemning a recent surge in violence in Iraq that has killed hundreds, including Algerian diplomats, U.S. Marines and a Sunni Arab helping to draft a new Iraqi constitution. Russia used the vote to criticize the media for glorifying terrorists after Moscow said it would bar ABC News from working in Russia when the U.S. television network aired an interview with Chechen rebel leader Shamil Basayev.

Bolton urged all nations "to meet their obligations to stop the flow of terrorist financing and weapons, and particularly on Iran and Syria."
"We think this is very important, obviously, to help bring stability and security to the people of Iraq and to permit the constitutional process to go forward. It's the highest priority for the people and government of Iraq, and for the United States as well," he said, speaking after the council vote.

Syrian Ambassador Fayssal Mekdad attacked Bolton's statement and similar comments by British Ambassador Emyr Jones Parry, saying they showed "a determined campaign against Syria" by Washington and London.
While Damascus had deployed around 10,000 soldiers and erected more than 300 surveillance towers along its border with Iraq, Britain and the United States had spurned a Syrian plea for assistance including night vision gear, he said. "This help has never come. We would like to ask them, what have they done on the other side of the border? They have done nothing while Syria has taken all measures," Mekdad said.

President Bush installed Bolton as his chief representative to the United Nations on Monday, bypassing Senate confirmation after Democrats stalled the nomination for five months. His vote to approve the resolution on Iraq was his first official act at the world body although he has spent the past few days making the rounds of key diplomats.

While terrorism had struck with deadly effect in Beirut, New York, Madrid, London, Beslan, Bali, Riyadh and elsewhere, "nowhere is it as virulent and persistent as it is in Iraq nowadays," Iraqi Ambassador Samir Sumaidaie told the council, welcoming its adoption of the resolution. Iraq "is bearing the burden for the world and now the world must stand with it," he said.

Russian Deputy U.N. Ambassador Alexander Konuzin used Bolton's presence to remark that while the vote showed the council's resolve against terrorism in Iraq, "we are not under the delusion that, after adoption of this resolution, that terrorist attacks will be brought to an end in Iraq." He also lashed out at the media who "yield to the commercial temptation to popularize bloody bandits who are defiling the memory of those who have died." "We are talking about abuse by ABC which offended many Russians -- showing this interview with a terrorist," he said.
Russia this week banned ABC journalists from talking to officials and will not allow them to renew their media accreditation.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 14:03 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [18 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Warnings, schmarnings...
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 14:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Boy-howdy he didn't waste any time.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 08/04/2005 14:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Hey Johnny, ask the Syrian ambassador for a DNA sample of Assad. That should get their attention. Keep pressing them with the phrase, its going to be needed real soon[tm].
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 15:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Bush would've checked off this box months ago - in concert with Rice's similar statements, were the Dhimmidonks not such [insert plural expletive here]. Bolton's exactly who we need there, thus he was delayed by the Moonbat Machine.

Whether people like it or not, Bush plays by the rules as they actually exist, must deal with reality, not fantasy, and is doing much more behind the scenes than we know - because we only know what is reported or made public. Even the blogosphere is limited to direct sources, such as CENTCOM web statements, and what slips through the MSM filters or must be fisked out of their agenda pieces to discover the truth. The hard truth is, Bush & Co know what's up and are on the job -- in spite of all of the internal foot-dragging and bogus info from half-insane agencies, limited humint resources from a decade of dumbing-down intel capabilities, outright sedition and sabotage such as the Wilson/Plame dynamic Moonbat duo, the authentic existence of BSD amongst the toolfools, RINO ankle-biting and waffling, self-serving McCain-style subversion, purely partisan Dhimmidonk efforts to derail everything Bush tries to do - because they have no vision or convictions themselves, not to mention the utter anti-America hate forces at work. In many ways, it really is Bush against the world. Amazing what he's been able to accomplish in spite of that disconcerting fact. Syria has been warned, but they won't get it. They never do.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 15:28 Comments || Top||

#5  So true .com Hey...maybe if we're lucky..Syria will "get it" right between the eyes...
Posted by: Warthog || 08/04/2005 15:38 Comments || Top||

#6  Works for me, WH - but I'd actually rather expend the ordnance on is the MM's and knock the only support they have out from under them first. Syria's a basketcase without MM$, IMHO, and I believe implosion would follow naturally. In fact, I'm looking forward to the synergy of the Kurds in Iraq, Iran, and Syria as events unfold over the next few years. I think there's a very good chance that, when the dust settles and the Turks get out of ICU, Kurdistan will have a port on the Med.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 15:45 Comments || Top||

#7  They have done nothing while Syria has taken all measures," Mekdad said..
Except lose many of our most valuable resources, our young men and women.
Posted by: plainslow || 08/04/2005 16:03 Comments || Top||

#8  Whee! Have you been saving that up, .com? ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 16:22 Comments || Top||

#9  Not sure what you're referring to, tw, lol! I've said what's in both comments before...

To be honest, I'm confused about WTF we're supposed to do here on RB, nowadays. I prefer to try to post original thinking, such as the Kurd thingy above - just looking ahead at potential realities as things might play out, but I'm not sure anymore. Trying to dissuade the IWWIWWIWI* crowd is tiring - and I'm honestly fed up with it. Prolly should revert to nothing but (cleansed) snarkies so as to not offend anyone - or just walking away and working through the resulting DT's. Chart nah ("Maybe next life"), as the Thais say.

* I Want What I Want When I Want It. The war cry of the 3 yr old - often heard here when Bush doesn't keep some poster's personal timetable for whacking 'tards, righting wrongs, etc.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 16:47 Comments || Top||

#10  That goes in the classics file, .com:

The cry of the IWWIWWIWIs screeching throughout the blogs .....

I agree with you and Pappy and others here over the last couple days.

A) There's stuff going on that hasn't been splashed across the NYT and may never be. But we can put 2 and 2 together and get something more than 1/2 if we look at the dots that are there. Like the simulataneous reports of clashes with MM thugs in multiple parts of Iran at once, including Arab and Kurd areas pushing the Persian MMs hard.

And B) Armchair generalling is an easy sport. Making real decisions in the hot seat within real limitations .... that's harder.
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 17:53 Comments || Top||

#11  Prolly should revert to nothing but (cleansed) snarkies so as to not offend anyone

I know I make it look easy, but don't try it without superior straps.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:23 Comments || Top||

#12  It was great hearing the Demos whine about Bolton's recess appointment. If we can just drive those traitorous bastards to the point where they'll all move to Canada, it would save us the trouble of incarcerating or executing them later.
Posted by: mac || 08/04/2005 20:32 Comments || Top||

#13  It's not that you haven't said it before, .com, but there it is -- all at once -- with lots of commas and visual adjectives. :-) I couldn't breath until I got to that final period!

Here, have a nice cup of tea. All the rest of you are invited, too, of course -- or wander over to the sideboard, if you'd like something stronger. (I don't notice any trolls around.)

Perhaps it's time to dig a little deeper in the Arab News, MEMRI and the Iraq Command's daily reports to see if all you clever types can discern what is going on below the surface... and look more closely at what Rantburg's foreign correspondents send in. We're seeing an awful lot of arrests as a result of London's little excitement -- and some of the stories mention that thus-and-such had been watched by the police, or MI-5/6 (I'm sorry, but I can't remember which is the British FBI, and which the CIA), or the Spaniards, or whomever. Fred has an enormous amount of information on individuals and organizations; is it time to start correlating some of it? (You 'll have noticed that I haven't volunteered to do any of this -- my expertise lies as far from this kind of thing as I can get. Sorry.)

Just thinking our loud... this just may be the August silly season, too, when nothing major happens and everybody gets just a little cranky waiting for Autumn to arrive.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 23:19 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Jihad: Who's joining, and why - and should we care?
This is the second part of an article I posted here Tuesday. It's pretty good, but again is mainly for the general public, not for WoT sophisticates like many of RB's regulars. But still, it does have some good stuff in it.

In Tuesday's edition, a report in this space looked at the origins and goals of Islamist militancy, and of Al Qaeda in particular. This briefing explores how the movement is evolving at a time of concern about terror cells in Western cities such as London. Is the global jihad spreading to Europe?

It seems clear that this is happening. Events like the London bombings, as well as online postings by Islamist extremists calling Muslim brethren in Western countries to action, suggest to many counterterrorism experts that the global jihad has entered a new phase. All of the members of the London terror cells were longtime residents of Britain, and some were born there, confirming the view that Islamist extremism has taken root. While attacks appear to have ebbed in places such as Indonesia, they have spread to what experts consider the fertile ground of the "ummah" or Islamic community of Europe.

Who is joining the jihad?

Experts don't foresee jihadism becoming a mass movement. Still, if the Al Qaeda ideology hooks a few hundred followers in countries with many Muslim immigrants, that is enough to wreak havoc. Recruitment in Europe is fueled by the sense of isolation and disappointment in Western culture.

Another factor may be freedom of speech. Hate-filled rhetoric and extremist ideals have been spread in European mosques and over the airwaves, some experts point out, even as the governments of these countries have pressed Muslim nations to curb the freedom and teachings of radical clerics.

Is the same thing happening in America?

Perhaps not, or at least not as fast. Mainstream Muslim organizations in America note that US Muslims differ from their counterparts in Europe - they are generally more prosperous (often from more prosperous backgrounds in their home countries) and less confined to Muslim ghettos. Still, experts point out that the British Islamist bombers were not living in poverty. The key problem appears to be alienation that opens minds to radical thinking. And in that sense, America may have a problem. Recent cases in Virginia and California involving clerics allegedly recruiting young Muslims for jihad suggest the dissemination of extremist ideals exists in isolated cases.

Are new groups emerging as Al Qaeda franchises, such as in Egypt?

The word "franchise" can be useful, hinting at how Al Qaeda might inspire or indirectly fund an attack without organizing it. But the word is misleading if it implies that terrorists are organized into neat, understandable groups. For instance, if the "Abdallah Azzam Brigades" were in fact behind last month's resort bombing at Sharm el-Sheik, its surviving members are now on the run. If they manage to evade capture, they may well emerge to strike again, but could do so under a different name. Conversely, the brigades' claim of responsibility could have come from an uninvolved sympathizer. The key question is the overlapping personal relationships of those involved.

It's useful, therefore, to think of Al Qaeda as an ideological force that reaches beyond its organizational structure. While groups like Southeast Asia's Jemaah Islamiyah (Islamic Group) and the pan-Islamic Hizb ut-Tahrir (Party of Liberation) have some doctrinal differences with Al Qaeda, they have overlapping interests.

Are the goals of jihadists changing?

Not much, experts say. The targets and tactics may be influenced by current circumstances - such as the US presence in Iraq - but an unchanging worldview underlies it all: The jihadists see Muslims as locked in a life-or-death struggle with a West that hates Islam. While the goal of an Islamic superstate remains central, the impetus for jihad can shift. Ideologues motivate adherents by citing specific cases of perceived injustice. The Southeast Asian militants behind a deadly October 2002 attack in Bali wanted to undermine the Indonesian state in order to create an Islamic caliphate there. They also subscribed to the broader vision of an eventual caliphate running the whole globe.

What's Al Qaeda's view of democracy movements in muslim countries?

Al Qaeda is against democracy as most in the West would understand it. What it wants is the replacement of existing authoritarian regimes with religious states. These would impose a rigid view of the Koran on citizens. In Al Qaeda's view, Western democratic ideas stand in the way of God's will on earth. Al Qaeda ideologue Ayman al-Zawahiri and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - the self-proclaimed mastermind of Al Qaeda in Iraq - have attacked democracy as a "trick" to deny Muslims the full flowering of Islam.

In his most recent videotaped statement on June 17, Zawahiri lashed out at Egypt's democracy protestors for playing an American game. It was an attack on the nation's secular democracy and reform movements such as Kifaya. Analysts also saw it as a thrust at Islamist groups like Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, which favors Islamic law and says it is committed to democratic institutions. To Zawahiri, such groups can only thwart the utopian vision of a vast Islamic state. If the U.S. left the Middle East, would militants focus their attacks on Shiites?
Ah, the civil war equation, already happening IMHO too.

The Islamist extremists whose rage the world is feeling today are primarily Sunni Muslims. In Iraq, which was ruled and dominated by a Sunni minority since the British created the country in the early 20th century, Sunni extremists are already targeting the ruling Shiite majority. Those extremists see the Shiites as impure and have no compunction about targeting Shiite civilians. For some scholars of Islam, the US, in replacing a Sunni regime with a Shiite-dominated one, faces unforeseen challenges as the shift in power is worked out. Some see wider dangers as its neighbors jockey for influence: What happens if turmoil in the new Iraq leads to an open confrontation between a Shiite-dominated Iran and the Sunni-ruled Saudi Arabia?

Experts also see trouble for the US if its eventual withdrawal from Iraq opens the door to a Shiite-led cleansing of Sunni Muslims - the much-discussed "civil war" that some Iraqis, including former Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, say has already began.
I concur, and point to American journalist Vincent's murder as evidence that Shiite's are hard at work eliminating all opposition to this movement towards a Shiite dominated Iraq South of Kirkuk

"It could be very dangerous if the US pulled out entirely," says Martha Crenshaw, a terrorism expert at Wesleyan University in Connecticut. "The jihadists would say that is what the US wanted all along, the extermination of the Sunnis in Iraq.... It could mean huge new problems for the US."
Huge problems like Saudi Arabia being rolled over y Iran? While an attractive prospect in many ways, this might not be so good for our energy needs. Oh what a tangled web.

Is a backlash against jihadism building from within Islam?

Contrary to the complaints of critics, mainstream Muslim clerics have taken steps to combat terrorism. American Muslim leaders have quickly condemned attacks, and have established programs, notably with the FBI, to assist in rooting out extremism.

Such commitments have been amplified since the London bombings. Last week, Muslim scholars in the US and Canada issued a fatwa, or judicial ruling, condemning terrorism and declaring violence against civilians - including suicide bombings - impermissible in Islam. Islamic scholars in Britain have taken similar steps. However, many experts worry that this focus on mainstream clerics is missing the mark, since the radicalized young often do not listen to religious leaders they see as Westernized.

At the same time, debate grows about whether more needs to be done. Some experts argue that jihadist violence can be ended only through opposition from within Islam. So far, such opposition hasn't stopped attacks.

The reason, some argue, is a chicken-and-egg scenario: The climate within Islam might change if Western policy changes. The establishment of a Palestinian state and the departure of US troops from Iraq could leave extremists with fewer arguments that resonate with Muslims.

Thus, both Islam and the West face pressure to change their ways. But both sides confront risks of appearing weak in the process. An apparent retreat by the US and its allies could embolden jihadists.
(Notice jihadists is interchangable with targets here.)
Similarly, mainstream Islamic clerics could lose credibility if a fatwa appears to have come in response to Western demands.

As I promised, less comments, decent article.
Posted by: ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding || 08/04/2005 13:06 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Experts don't foresee jihadism becoming a mass movement.

Experts?!? Experts?!? Write the sentence as "Experts don't foresee." and leave it that and then you're telling the truth.

Where were all our so-called Middle East experts on 9/10/2001 or during the Iranian Revolution or in Nigeria or Pakistan?

This is one of those cases where I will take plain ol' common sense over any #*%!@ expert testimony.

There's an ill wind blowing out of the Muslim world, and I don't need a weatherman to tell me it's going to rain.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 08/04/2005 13:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Who you callin a Sophisticate?
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Part of Islamist anger is that they gener believe it is illogical and unfair for JudeoChristians to dominate the world in almost every aspect but not the sons of Ismael - to paraphrase the actress Annette Benning, again, in THE SIEGE,"THEY HAVE NO POWER [like the Christian nations]"!? GLOBAL MONOTHEISM IN 2005 = the Jews and Christans, not Muslims, with the two former getting bigger and bigger, like US hyperpower and Western Democapitalism-Materialism-Consumerism. ISLAM IN 2005 > akin to JudeoChristianity's poor or mostly homeless, problem-plaqued, SOCIALLY UNKNOWN/
IGNORED cousin, with ETHNIC/STATE-SPECIFIC MANIFEST DESTINY > occur via OWG Legislation, andor Global Corporate Takeovers!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/04/2005 23:50 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Switched off in Basra (Steven Vincent's final posting)
The British approach appears to be to train the Shiite equivalent of Saddam's Baath Party death squads until it's time to leave. We hear about shootings of Iraqi forces by American troops every so often. We don't really hear about similar engagements with British troops. I wonder if GI's are taking care of murderous Shiite thugs in an under-the-table fashion.
The British call it being "switched on" - a state of high morale and readiness, similar to what Americans think of as "gung ho" attitude. During the 10 days I recently spent embedded with the British-led multinational force in this southern Iraqi city, I met many switched-on soldiers involved in what the British call "security sector reform." An effort to maintain peace while training Iraqis to handle their own policing and security, security sector reform is fundamental to the British-American exit strategy. As one British officer put it, "The sooner the locals assume their own security, the sooner we go home."

From this perspective, the strategy appears successful. Particularly in terms of the city police officers, who are proving adept at the close-order drills, marksmanship and proper arrest techniques being drilled into them by their foreign instructors. In addition, police salaries are up, the officers have shiny new patrol cars, and many sport snazzy new uniforms. Better yet, many of these new Iraqi officers seem switched-on themselves. "We want to serve our country" is a repeated refrain.

From another view, however, security sector reform is failing the very people it is intended to serve: average Iraqis who simply want to go about their lives. As has been widely reported of late, Basran politics (and everyday life) is increasingly coming under the control of Shiite religious groups, from the relatively mainstream Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq to the bellicose followers of the rebel cleric Moktada al-Sadr. Recruited from the same population of undereducated, underemployed men who swell these organizations' ranks, many of Basra's rank-and-file police officers maintain dual loyalties to mosque and state.

In May, the city's police chief told a British newspaper that half of his 7,000-man force was affiliated with religious parties. This may have been an optimistic estimate: one young Iraqi officer told me that "75 percent of the policemen I know are with Moktada al-Sadr - he is a great man." And unfortunately, the British seem unable or unwilling to do anything about it.

The fact that the British are in effect strengthening the hand of Shiite organizations is not lost on Basra's residents.

"No one trusts the police," one Iraqi journalist told me. "If our new ayatollahs snap their fingers, thousands of police will jump." Mufeed al-Mushashaee, the leader of a liberal political organization called the Shabanea Rebellion, told me that he felt that "the entire force should be dissolved and replaced with people educated in human rights and democracy."

Unfortunately, this is precisely what the British aren't doing. Fearing to appear like colonial occupiers, they avoid any hint of ideological indoctrination: in my time with them, not once did I see an instructor explain such basics of democracy as the politically neutral role of the police in a civil society. Nor did I see anyone question the alarming number of religious posters on the walls of Basran police stations. When I asked British troops if the security sector reform strategy included measures to encourage cadets to identify with the national government rather than their neighborhood mosque, I received polite shrugs: not our job, mate.

The results are apparent. At the city's university, for example, self-appointed monitors patrol the campuses, ensuring that women's attire and makeup are properly Islamic. "I'd like to throw them off the grounds, but who will do it?" a university administrator asked me. "Most of our police belong to the same religious parties as the monitors."

Similarly, the director of Basra's maternity hospital, Mohammad Nasir, told me that he frequently catches staff members pilfering equipment to sell to private hospitals, but hesitates to call the police: "How do I know what religious party they are affiliated with, and what their political connection is to the thieves?"

It is particularly troubling that sectarian tensions are increasing in Basra, which has long been held up as the brightest spot of the liberated Iraq. "Are the police being used for political purposes?" asked Jamal Khazal Makki, the head of the Basra branch of the Sunni-dominated Islamic Party. "They arrest people and hold them in custody, even though the courts order them released. Meanwhile, the police rarely detain anyone who belongs to a Shiite religious party."

An Iraqi police lieutenant, who for obvious reasons asked to remain anonymous, confirmed to me the widespread rumors that a few police officers are perpetrating many of the hundreds of assassinations - mostly of former Baath Party members - that take place in Basra each month. He told me that there is even a sort of "death car": a white Toyota Mark II that glides through the city streets, carrying off-duty police officers in the pay of extremist religious groups to their next assignment.

Meanwhile, the British stand above the growing turmoil, refusing to challenge the Islamists' claim on the hearts and minds of police officers. This detachment angers many Basrans. "The British know what's happening but they are asleep, pretending they can simply establish security and leave behind democracy," said the police lieutenant who had told me of the assassinations. "Before such a government takes root here, we must experience a transformation of our minds."

In other words, real security reform requires psychological as well as physical training. Unless the British include in their security sector reform strategy some basic lessons in democratic principles, Basra risks falling further under the sway of Islamic extremists and their Western-trained police enforcers.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/04/2005 12:39 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The US dealt above the table - they shot them wholesale in Sadr city until they cried uncle.
Posted by: buwaya || 08/04/2005 14:08 Comments || Top||

#2  The US did NOT deal with with them at all. They stopped before they killed Tater and his controllers. They had two chances to do the right thing and they let themselves be talked out of it each time. It's like not getting Saddam in the first GW. We'll have to go back in in a few years to prevent Tater from turning southern Iraq over to the Mad Mullahs.
Posted by: Angoluper Jomogum9513 || 08/04/2005 14:15 Comments || Top||

#3  buwaya: The US dealt above the table - they shot them wholesale in Sadr city until they cried uncle.

That makes a lot of sense. GI's may have prevented Sadr from doing certain things and Sadr attacked them for it. This could be why British troops are not being attacked by Shiite thugs - why attack the people who are letting you kill Iraqi civilians at will, and are training you to get better at it?
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/04/2005 15:02 Comments || Top||

#4  That or Sistani's got the whip hand in Basara and is keeping the peace British help.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 20:38 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Val takes a year off
Interesting tidbits about Joe Wilson's not quite undercover wife, Valerie Plame Wilson. Hat tip NRO:

I'm just a regular working mom, says America's most famous spy
10/07/2005 - America's most famous spy was doing her best to stay out of the unwelcome limelight last week. "I'm just a mom getting dinner ready for my kids," Valerie Wilson said with a smile at her hilltop home in one of Washington's best neighbourhoods. "You better talk to my husband."
Blah, blah, now the interesting item:
While Miller languishes in jail, Mrs Wilson has quietly returned to work at the CIA's headquarters in Langley, Virginia, after a year's unpaid leave. Her work remains classified, although she is no longer a covert operative. She spent much of her enforced leave of absence helping to counsel women suffering from postnatal depression, a condition that strikes an estimated one in 10 new mothers and which Mrs Wilson herself experienced.
"years unpaid leave" and "enforced leave of absence" sounds a lot like what we'd normally call a "suspension", doesn't it? Novak wrote about Plame in July 2003. If the Telegraph is correct, she was not put on “unpaid leave of absence” until a full year later, about July of 2004. That would be around the same time as this:

Spy's Notes on Iraqi Aims Were Shelved, Suit Says

WASHINGTON, July 31 - The Central Intelligence Agency was told by an informant in the spring of 2001 that Iraq had abandoned a major element of its nuclear weapons program, but the agency did not share the information with other agencies or with senior policy makers, a former C.I.A. officer has charged. In a lawsuit filed in federal court here in December, the former C.I.A. officer, whose name remains secret, said that the informant told him that Iraq's uranium enrichment program had ended years earlier and that centrifuge components from the scuttled program were available for examination and even purchase.
The officer, an employee at the agency for more than 20 years, including several years in a clandestine unit assigned to gather intelligence related to illicit weapons, was fired in 2004.
Say, doesn't Valerie work in the WMD section?
In his lawsuit, he says his dismissal was punishment for his reports questioning the agency's assumptions on a series of weapons-related matters. Among other things, he charged that he had been the target of retaliation for his refusal to go along with the agency's intelligence conclusions. Now the CIA wouldn't do anything like that, would they?His information on the Iraqi nuclear program, described as coming from a significant source, would have arrived at a time when the C.I.A. was starting to reconsider whether Iraq had revived its efforts to develop nuclear weapons. The agency's conclusion that this was happening, eventually made public by the Bush administration in 2002 as part of its rationale for war, has since been found to be incorrect. I see three posibilities, 1 - this guy is lying to cover his ass, 2 - the CIA missed the clue Iraq was dropping their nuclear program and are practicing CYA, or 3 - CIA knew Iraq was dropping the program, but covered it up and gave Bush the wrong data to damage him at a later date. What did Valerie know, and when did she know it? Interesting
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 12:04 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [13 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Cue 007 Theme

Plame, Valerie Plame and this is my past prime husband, Wison, Joe Wilson....

fade 007 theme
Posted by: Mister Federal Reserve || 08/04/2005 13:24 Comments || Top||


Europe
EU prepares U.N. Iran nuclear warning -diplomats
Oh-oh. Looks like the countdown's begun:
500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
499,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999
499,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,998...

VIENNA (Reuters) - The European Union will call a meeting of the U.N. nuclear watchdog's governing board for early next week to warn Iran against restarting atomic work that could be used to develop weapons, diplomats said on Thursday.
Okay! Uncle! We give! We give! Just no more meetings with you people! We'll do anything! Please!
Iran threatened to resume uranium processing this week. The EU responded by saying any resumption of nuclear fuel activities would mean an end to two years of talks on Iran's nuclear program.
Oh, no. And end to a two year waste of time. Can we stand it!
"This board meeting is just to warn the Iranians," a diplomat close to negotiations between Tehran and the EU's three biggest powers -- France, Britain and Germany -- said, adding the meeting was tentatively scheduled for Tuesday.
Means nothing, really. But so does everything we've done in two years...
A second diplomat confirmed there would be a meeting early next week.
...and probably another one a couple of weeks after that. We will schedule another meeting at that time.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 11:59 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Strongly worded letter to follow.
Posted by: Scott R || 08/04/2005 12:32 Comments || Top||

#2  If the EU had any guts, the EU'd say...

Look Magic Mullahs - We are the good cop...

But, the US has a guy here now named Bolton...

You either deal with us, or you get him...

Couldn't hurt, but the EU hasn't the guts...
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:56 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Liberal press hits bottom investigate adoption records of Judge Roberts’ two kids
The NEW YORK TIMES is looking into the adoption records of the children of Supreme Court Nominee John G. Roberts, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The TIMES has investigative reporter Glen Justice hot on the case to investigate adoption records of Judge Roberts’ two young children, Josie age 5 and Jack age 4, a top source reveals.

Judge Roberts and his wife Jane adopted the children when they each were infants.

Both children were adopted from Latin America.

A TIMES insider claims the look into the adoptions records are part of the paper's "standard background check."

When reached by phone Thursday morning, Glen Justice had no offical comment.

Roberts’ young son Jack delighted millions of Americans during his father’s Supreme Court nomination announcement ceremony when he wouldn’t stop dancing while the President and his father spoke to a national television audience.

Previously the WASHINGTON POST Style section had published a story criticizing the outfits Mrs. Roberts had them wear at the announcement ceremony.

One top Washington official with knowledge of the NEW YORK TIMES’ plans declared: “Trying to pry into the lives of the Roberts’ family like this is despicable. Children’s lives should be off limits. The TIMES is putting politics over fundamental decency.”

One top Republican official when told of the situation was incredulous. “This can’t possibly be true?”
The press is despicable as well as the liberals. Family should be off limits, unless they are suicide bombers or something. And looking and printing stuff about an adoption? Someone nuke the NY Times, Please...
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 11:51 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What do they expect to find? Seriously?
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 12:17 Comments || Top||

#2  I dunno. They looked kinda "shifty" to me...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 12:19 Comments || Top||

#3  If the WaPo "Style" section can mock the outfits of the kids, I'm sure the NYT can beat that! For dispicability, I mean.
Posted by: Bobby || 08/04/2005 12:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Well, if they weren't planning on telling them they were adopted, then they will have to at some point now. The kids will undoubtable be interested in how their father ended up on the USSC and look stuff up sometime.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 08/04/2005 13:02 Comments || Top||

#5  it was already public knowledge that they were adopted. What would you find adoption records? Hmm..good question. But the NYT is such scum that you wonder if they aren't going to go locate the biological parents and see if they can make a circus show out of them.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 13:13 Comments || Top||

#6  They were fishing for evidence of wrong-doing.

The NYT is slime.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 13:15 Comments || Top||

#7  In most places, adoption records are confidential by statute. (F'instance, I, the adoptee, and the only person legally entitled to access my adoption case file.) So, is the NYT planning to violate the law to get in there?
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 13:16 Comments || Top||

#8  Both children were adopted from Latin America.

Lil' Jack. An al-Qaeda operative if I ever saw one... They are finding new and subversive ways to get into the country... Imagine, pose as an infant, get adopted, and you are in... Imagine your luck to be adopted by a prominent attorney who ends up a judge... Wow! Then your adoptive father gets on the Supreme Court...

Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 13:18 Comments || Top||

#9  Yeah. "Manchurian Candidate". I'm thinking that too...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 13:19 Comments || Top||

#10  Well, we can't all be born into the Sulzberger family.
Posted by: Matt || 08/04/2005 13:22 Comments || Top||

#11  So, is the NYT planning to violate the law to get in there?

I believe the NYT has repeatedly stated that laws do not apply to reporters.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 13:24 Comments || Top||

#12  I wonder if they plan on trying to find the birth mothers and then spin the story that the children are being denied thier cultural inheritance. They can then spin Jodge Roberts as a racist and/or cultural imperialist.
Posted by: canaveraldan || 08/04/2005 13:33 Comments || Top||

#13  white children from South America. Boys from Brazil?
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 13:35 Comments || Top||

#14  Looking to see if Roberts bought the children off the black market after their parents were killed by right wing death squads backed by Regean with guns supplied by Ollie North. Or he had to buy his wife children because he's really gay and needed cover. Or he bought them for his Federalist pedofile club meetings, etc.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 13:37 Comments || Top||

#15  So I assume this means the NYSlimes will continue to print (front page) that Kenyan's offer of goats and cows for Chelsea's hand in marriage? Nah, I didn't think so.
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 13:41 Comments || Top||

#16  They looked kinda "shifty" to me...

Like Paul Krugman....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 13:43 Comments || Top||

#17  A TIMES insider claims the look into the adoptions records are part of the paper's "standard background check."

I call Bullshit! This isn't 'standard' just digging for dirt (a NYSlimes Specialty!) Did the NYT investigate Chelsea's birth? Did they require a paternaty test to determine if Hillary is really the mother?

The NYT is simply digging for slime because they hate Bush so much they can't stand the thought of him appointing someone (anyone) to the Supreme Court.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#18  The depth of their depravity never cease to amaze me. Knowing that they can't leagally "look into" any adoption records, I fail to see what they will review. Sounds like the Neoliberals have fishing partners in the NYT. I am betting the children are the result of a laison betwen Karl Rove and Lucy Rameriz. Because Karl refused to support his love children, Lucy was forced to put them up for adoption. She only did this because Roberts offered her mucho deniro and didn't want to get messed up in any laws (Lawyers are famous for this). I hear Dan Rather will run a segment in 60 minutes this Sunday and provide the docmuents. These documents came from an un-impeachable source.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 08/04/2005 13:51 Comments || Top||

#19  "...they hate Bush so much they can't stand the thought of [insert anything, anything at all here]..."

Yes. Isn't it great? The great Sulzberger Scion, a pluperfect fool who had his entire privileged world handed to him on a silver platter, working desperately to squander the lot, is apoplectic. Works for me. Pop a vein or three, there, Arty.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 13:56 Comments || Top||

#20  I believe the NYT has repeatedly stated that laws do not apply to reporters.

Yeah, call Judy Miller in prison. See what she thinks of that policy...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 13:58 Comments || Top||

#21  My, my! Such mean spirited hate speech!
Manolo, have the limo brought around. I think I'll head for the Hamptons early this weekend as I feel a vainglorious case of the vapors coming on...
Posted by: Pinchy || 08/04/2005 14:02 Comments || Top||

#22  By the way: (1) If this is true it amounts to a concession that the only way to attack Roberts is by going personal. Looking at Judge Roberts' resume, that's no surprise. (2) Like any other group of people, federal judges tend to close ranks when one of them is attacked. If this story is true, look for the NYT (Motto: "Our stories are inspired by actual events") to slip on a few legal banana peels in the near future. ("And so the Court in its discretion orders this defamation case by Lt. Smith against Mr. Sulzberger to be transferred to Fort Bragg for trial on the merits.")
Posted by: Matt || 08/04/2005 14:09 Comments || Top||

#23  I really think it's time that reporters get investigated and treated as they treat other people. I'm sure there's all sorts of dirt to dig up on them and when they whine, we'll just say it's part of the standard background check for traitors...err..reporters.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 08/04/2005 14:27 Comments || Top||

#24  So the difference is Roberts adopted a latin American or two while Ruth Bader Ginsberg hired them for maids (w/o paying social security). I can see why the Times is so concerned about Roberts obvious pedophilia.....
Posted by: Slineper Unaving2613 || 08/04/2005 14:32 Comments || Top||

#25  Silentbrick, that's actually a good idea about investigating reporters. I do like that. Maybe that would curb some of the awful spin or fabrication of stories that are out there.
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 14:35 Comments || Top||

#26  I hear MoDo has a drinking problem...
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 15:10 Comments || Top||

#27  What do expect from people who thinks that a close win is actually a win.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 08/04/2005 15:34 Comments || Top||

#28  MoDo has a drinking problem...
yeah, Raj, but anyone who actually reads her columns has already figured that out.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 15:35 Comments || Top||

#29  This is going to make me very angry.

Full disclosure: my wife and I adopted our daughter.

Adoption records are not public. There's a movement in the US, which I support in various ways, to allow adult adoptees to have access to their state records. But that does NOT extend to a news organization in any way, shape or form.

Family adoption records are PRIVATE. Once an adoption has been finalized by a court it is OVER, FINAL and DONE. I don't even know how the NYT can get the records unless they do something illegal. The court clerk sure as hell knows not to hand them to anyone.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 18:56 Comments || Top||

#30  Dr. White, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but that's not the way things work at the court house with reporters. Some compromising pictures, some bribes, some desire to get even, and nothing is private.

Oh, somebody did something illegal? Happens every day. Can't prove it was the Times reporter. Look how hard the Plame Game is.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 19:04 Comments || Top||

#31  I have faith in the Liberal Press, they will find a way to go lower than this. I just can't imagine how yet but they will. Stinking incestual necrophiliacs is what they are!
Posted by: Unegum Whaimp3886 || 08/04/2005 20:03 Comments || Top||

#32  According to Brit Hume tonight, a lawyer he talked with, said the NYTimes was trying to get from him, HOW to get into those closed records.

This lawyer said, "This is despicable."

The NYT wasn't on a "fishing expedition," they were trying to find the lake.

Wonder if the next step for the NYTimes will be to find the DNA of all the Clintons.... no, I'm not even gonna go there. But that is the path this is leading down.
Posted by: Sherry || 08/04/2005 22:01 Comments || Top||


Europe
When Boobies Are Outlawed...
THE EU has declared a crackpot war on busty barmaids — by trying to ban them from wearing low-cut tops. Po-faced penpushers have deemed it a HEALTH HAZARD for bar girls to show too much cleavage. And in a daft directive that will have drinkers choking on their pints, Brussels bureaucrats have ordered a cover-up. They say barmaids run a skin cancer risk if they expose themselves to the sun when they go outside to collect glasses.

Last night the move was blasted as an affront. Annie Powell, of real ale group Camra, raged: “"It’s just another blatant example of Europe gone mad..." The ruling is part of the new Optical Radiation Directive — expected to be rubber-stamped by the EU parliament next month. Germans are already frothing over the new law — because bars in Bavaria have been forced to comply in advance.

Drinkers are threatening to boycott Munich's famous Oktoberfest beer festival. The city’s mayor Christian Ude fumed: "This is European law-making at its most pedantic. A waitress is no longer allowed to wander round a beer garden with a plunging neckline. I would not want to enter a beer garden under these conditions."
Another glimpse of life in the Holy Roman Empire. Or Wackyland. Remember, there is still a $1 Quadrillion bounty on the last surviving Do-Do bird.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 11:43 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Look: principles are nice and all, but there's no way I'm boycotting a beer festival. Even for something as tragic as this.
Posted by: BH || 08/04/2005 12:04 Comments || Top||

#2  This...means...WAR!!!
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 12:13 Comments || Top||

#3  I think the whole initiative will turn out to be a bust.
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 12:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Let me get this right. Lets see...
Brothels == Good
White Slavery of Eastern European Women == Good
Love Parades with sex in the street == Good
Nude or topless beaches == Good
Nude museums == Good

Low cut barmaid's outfits == Bad

What is it that I don't understand here.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 12:24 Comments || Top||

#5  maybe they should wear the hijab.
Although it was always the strong muscular guys carrying the 8 pitchers of beer that intrigued me at ocktoberfest
No we shouldn't protest, I can see a Rantburg reunion here to discuss the matter though
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 12:31 Comments || Top||

#6  That does it. I'm with tu.

I declare Jihad on the EU.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 12:45 Comments || Top||

#7  Nothing like a nice pair of melons...

Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 08/04/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||

#8  The ruling is part of the new Optical Radiation Directive

With a title like that, you know it has to be chocked full of nutty goodness.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 13:19 Comments || Top||

#9  Hmmm. A little too perfect, YS. Those must be fake. Did you thump 'em? ;-)
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 13:20 Comments || Top||

#10  Does the EU ministry of prevention of vice and promotion of virtue have need for undercover investigative agents?
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 13:28 Comments || Top||

#11  hey YS, is that a nipple ring?
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 14:06 Comments || Top||

#12  Skin cancer on their faces, arms and legs is apparently not a worry. Just tits.
Posted by: mojo || 08/04/2005 14:18 Comments || Top||

#13  .com & Jan - LMAO!!!
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 08/04/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||

#14  What are those two bald heads doing in the photo?
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 15:18 Comments || Top||

#15  Oh man, that photo is priceless. I just shot coffee out my nose....
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 16:00 Comments || Top||

#16  "When Boobies Are Outlawed..."

Only Outlaws will have Boobies?
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 16:09 Comments || Top||

#17  You can have those boobies when you pry my hot wet... um, nevermind.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 16:10 Comments || Top||

#18  try again
This Festival has EU contestants.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 17:03 Comments || Top||

#19  This is a work safety rule, right?

So instead of outlawing the lowcut tops they should mandate regular applications of SPF-40 sunblock.

To be applied by the customers, if necessary ....
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 17:48 Comments || Top||

#20  Switzerland, not a member of the EU, but who celebrates Octoberfest, should use this as a tourist marketing program...

"Our barmaids are not endorsed by European Union bureaucrats.
Come to Octoberfest Switzerland 2005!"
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 19:17 Comments || Top||

#21  Great idea, Ed! They can sell them as "Banned in Brussels"!
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 19:56 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Trading Cricket for Jihad (David Brooks)
Nothing has changed during the war on terror as much as our definition of the enemy.

In the days after Sept. 11, it was commonly believed that the conflict between the jihadists and the West was a conflict between medievalism and modernism. Terrorists, it was said, emerge from cultures that are isolated from the Enlightenment ideas of the West. They feel disoriented by the pluralism of the modern age and humiliated by the relative backwardness of the Arab world. They are trapped in stagnant, dysfunctional regimes, amid mass unemployment, with little hope of leading productive lives.

Humiliated and oppressed, they lash out against America, the symbol of threatening modernity. Off they go to seek martyrdom, dreaming of virgins who await them in the afterlife.

Now we know that story line doesn't fit the facts.

We have learned a lot about the jihadists, from Osama bin Laden down to the Europeans who attacked the London subways last month. We know, thanks to a database gathered by Marc Sageman, formerly of the C.I.A., that about 75 percent of anti-Western terrorists come from middle-class or upper-middle-class homes. An amazing 65 percent have gone to college, and three-quarters have professional or semiprofessional jobs, particularly in engineering and science.

Whether they have moved to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, England or France, these men are, far from being medieval, drawn from the ranks of the educated, the mobile and the multilingual.

The jihadists are modern psychologically as well as demographically because they are self-made men (in traditional societies there are no self-made men). Rather than deferring to custom, many of them have rebelled against local authority figures, rejecting their parents' bourgeois striving and moderate versions of Islam, and their comfortable lives.

They have sought instead some utopian cause to give them an identity and their lives meaning. They find that cause in a brand of Salafism that is not traditional Islam but a modern fantasy version of it, an invented tradition. They give up cricket and medical school and take up jihad.

In other words, the conflict between the jihadists and the West is a conflict within the modern, globalized world. The extremists are the sort of utopian rebels modern societies have long produced.

In his book "Globalized Islam," the French scholar Olivier Roy points out that today's jihadists have a lot in common with the left-wing extremists of the 1930's and 1960's. Ideologically, Islamic neofundamentalism occupies the same militant space that was once occupied by Marxism. It draws the same sorts of recruits (educated second-generation immigrants, for example), uses some of the same symbols and vilifies some of the same enemies (imperialism and capitalism).

Roy emphasizes that the jihadists are the products of globalization, and its enemies. They are detached from any specific country or culture, he says, and take up jihad because it attaches them to something. They are generally not politically active before they take up jihad. They are looking to strike a vague blow against the system and so give their lives (and deaths) shape and meaning.

In short, the Arab world is maintaining its nearly perfect record of absorbing every bad idea coming from the West. Western ideas infuse the radicals who flood into Iraq to blow up Muslims and Americans alike.

This new definition of the enemy has seeped into popular culture (in "Over There," the FX show about the Iraq war, the insurgent leaders are shown as educated, multilingual radicals), but its implications have only slowly dawned on the policy world.

The first implication, clearly, is that democratizing the Middle East, while worthy in itself, may not stem terrorism. Terrorists are bred in London and Paris as much as anywhere else.

Second, the jihadists' weakness is that they do not spring organically from the Arab or Muslim world. They claim to speak for the Muslim masses, as earlier radicals claimed to speak for the proletariat. But they don't. Surely a key goal for U.S. policy should be to isolate the nationalists from the jihadists.

Third, terrorism is an immigration problem. Terrorists are spawned when educated, successful Muslims still have trouble sinking roots into their adopted homelands. Countries that do not encourage assimilation are not only causing themselves trouble, but endangering others around the world as well.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 11:29 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Countries that do not encourage assimilation are not only causing themselves trouble, but endangering others around the world as well.

That's clever advice NY Times. So why are police tip-toeing around muslim houses with muslim supervisors and standing on their heads trying desperately not to offend muslims they are arresting? Why is CAIR tollerated at all? Why is it fine for a muslim to be totally rigid about their religion and at the same time regard ours as shit? Why cant the INS even look at a muslim without them crying foul? Assimilate, my ass. They don't want to assimilate, they hate everything we and our country and our freedom stand for.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 11:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Third, terrorism is an immigration problem. Terrorists are spawned when educated, successful Muslims still have trouble sinking roots into their adopted homelands. Countries that do not encourage assimilation are not only causing themselves trouble, but endangering others around the world as well.

The problem with this piece is that it misses something obvious. If people are educated and successful, then clearly their "adopted homelands" have done little or nothing to hold them back -- they're certainly not being denied educations, being excluded from economic activity, or being victimized in any real way. Why, then, do they have problems assimilating?

Perhaps it's because they choose not to assimilate? Perhaps it's because they choose to remain isolated and outside of the society they've moved into?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 13:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Why, then, do they have problems assimilating?

Perhaps it's to Mark Steyn's point that they have nothing to assimilate to given the utterly watered down "I'm okay, you're okay" post-modernist rubbish that Europe has been reduced to.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 08/04/2005 14:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Hmmm, DN, interesting observation. Nihilism is obviously an acquired taste in fates. One would presume it takes generations of devout and dedicated submissive toolishness to inculcate such a brain-dead response to life. On the other hand, considering the parallels between nihilism and Islam...
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||

#5  That's not a bad theory.

But given the practice of arranged marriage and oddball concepts of "honor", I think they're holding themselves apart.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 14:21 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Feds raid homes of New Orleans democrat congressman
The Washington and New Orleans homes and the vehicle of U.S. Rep. William Jefferson were raided by federal agents on Wednesday.

Bryan Sierra, a Department of Justice spokesman, would not comment on what federal agents were looking for. "There were searches executed today in connection with an ongoing criminal investigation," Sierra said. "As it is a criminal investigation we will not be able to comment any further."

In a statement, the congressman said he did "not know the extent or precise nature of this investigation." Jefferson, D-New Orleans, added: "I am cooperating fully with the authorities." His office said Jefferson was in New Orleans and was not available for further comment.

There was no sign he was at his home as FBI worked inside for several hours through the afternoon.

Shortly after 5 p.m., at least 15 agents emerged from the home, 12 of them carrying bags and boxes. Dozens of neighbors stood along the upscale street watching the raid and talked about it. Although neither Jefferson nor Sierra gave the point of the raid, Jefferson's brother-in-law, a former state judge, recently was convicted of mail fraud in a wide-ranging investigation of bail bond corruption in suburban New Orleans. The brother-in-law, Alan Green, was the 14th defendant convicted in the investigation called "Operation Wrinkled Robe." The others, including a former judge, Ronald Bodenheimer, pleaded guilty.

According to federal court documents, in a recorded conversation, Jefferson asked Green to raise money for Jefferson's daughter's successful 2003 campaign for the Legislature. The records show that Green agreed to help. The Louisiana Code of Judicial Conduct bars judges from asking for campaign donations on behalf of political candidates.

Previously, Jefferson said that he recalled the conversaton with Green, but the request for help was familial — and not political in nature.
To borrow from Da Mayor, if you can't help your family, who can you help?
"To my knowledge, nothing resulted from the conversation — the campaign did not receive any money from Judge Green or anyone who may have been prompted by him to contribute — and there were no further conversations on the matter," Jefferson said.

Rep. Jalila Jefferson-Bullock, D-New Orleans, said in May that she had no knowledge of the matter and did not receive contributions from Green or anyone he might have asked to support her. Jalila Jefferson-Bullock said late Wednesday that she knew nothing about the raid.
"Now go away. And take those #%$@&^!!@# cameras with you!"
Jefferson, 58, represents a district comprised mostly of the heart of New Orleans. He served in the Louisiana Senate from 1979 until his election to Congress in 1990 as the first black House member in the state since Reconstruction. Since his initial election, he has faced virtually no serious opposition in six re-election campaigns. He serves on the influential House Ways and Means Committee. Jefferson filed to run for governor in 1991 and 1995, but withdrew both times, before running unsuccessfuly in 1999 against then-incumbent Gov. Mike Foster.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 10:29 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  oh goodie!
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 10:46 Comments || Top||

#2  They got a law against being a corrupt politian in Louisiana? Who knew?
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 10:55 Comments || Top||

#3  He's totally innocent, this is that vast right wing conspiracy they are always talking about. We're trying to make them look like dumbasses, er, wait. They are making themselves look like dumbasses.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 11:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Investigating corrupt Louisiana pols looks like one of the few jobs still around where you could spend your entire career in one place.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 12:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually, Steve, it's a federal rap. If only we hadn't lost that damn war none of this would be happening.
Posted by: Matt || 08/04/2005 13:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Investigating corrupt Louisiana pols looks like one of the few jobs still around where you could spend your entire career in one place.

And that's just with one defendant.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 13:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Cong Jefferson
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 13:46 Comments || Top||

#8  Move along.... nothing to see here....

Oh Look! Someone forgot to dot an i on one of Judge Roberts children's adoptions papers! We must demand a full investigation! Call out the ACLU!!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 13:53 Comments || Top||

#9  They got a law against being a corrupt politian in Louisiana? Who knew?

That law is actually against Stupid Corrupt Politicians.... damn this is gonna be weird. Don't be messing to close with the judges.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 14:08 Comments || Top||

#10  wait there's Rove... over there!! Nope - no corruption here...
Posted by: MACOFROMOC || 08/04/2005 15:00 Comments || Top||

#11  And its not like someone was running a gay call-boy service out of his apartment. Or taking underaged Congressional pages on field trips.
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 15:12 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Woman arrested: tried to open door of plane in flight
Probably just a drunk or taking too many of those pills, but here just in case

A woman was arrested Wednesday for attempting to open an airplane exit door while the plane was still in the air, police said.

The 52-year-old woman from Dania Beach, Fla., left her seat and tried to open the door as the United Airlines flight was descending into Seattle to land, police said. The plane was at an altitude of about 4,000 feet at the time.

She failed but "did manage to turn the handle far enough that a warning light went on in the cockpit," Seattle-Tacoma International Airport spokesman Bob Parker told KING-TV.

A flight attendant persuaded the woman to sit back down, but nobody physically restrained her. Parker said the other passengers stayed belted in their seats in case she did manage to open the door.

The woman was arrested for investigation of malicious mischief when the plane landed. Police were investigating whether alcohol and prescription medication were involved.

A United spokesman did not immediately return a call for comment late Wednesday.
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 10:26 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Why is the door to the latrine so hard to open?"
Posted by: Jonathan || 08/04/2005 10:38 Comments || Top||

#2  She was late for her Darwin Award sign-in ......
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 08/04/2005 10:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Police were investigating whether alcohol and prescription medication were involved.

Magic Eight Ball sez, "Entirely Possible".
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 11:06 Comments || Top||

#4  And as usual everyone on the plane sat there with a terrified look on their face while a maniac proceeded to try to kill all of them.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 11:22 Comments || Top||

#5  She obviously mistook it for the subway.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 11:43 Comments || Top||

#6  And as usual everyone on the plane sat there with a terrified look on their face while a maniac proceeded to try to kill all of them.

Not so sure. In this case, I suspect it is better to remain belted in your seat while Ms. Moron gets sucked out the door. IIRC, an airliner in Hawaii landed safely a number of years ago after the entire roof peeled off.

Dollars to donuts, an attempt to open the cockpit door would have gotten an entirely different response.
Posted by: SteveS || 08/04/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||

#7  You can get off here if you like, but watch out for that first step . . . it's a doozy!
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 13:19 Comments || Top||

#8  Getting sucked out of a plane by the pressure is a semi-myth. The real hazard is if you are blown out/off of the airplane by wind from the travel of the plane through the air. The plane that lost it's roof did so through metal fatigue,with a large loss of roof material peeled back and with the 450 kt wind blowing people out of their chairs and ripping the chairs off the deck. With only one door open, and below 10k feet (which imposes a 250 knot indicated airspeed limit by FAA regs) it would have been reasonably safe to try and restrain her. Through unconciousness. Via a beating.

Pressure differences in the cabin aren't enough to do anything really-- Even if the pressure outside were zero, there would only be a difference of zero to the pressure of 8k feet in the air (roughly). What it does mean is a lack of O2 to anyone in the unpressurized cabin without a mask and if the plane is above 12k feet. At 36k feet, you have literally seconds before passing out.
Posted by: Mark E. || 08/04/2005 13:37 Comments || Top||

#9  "but nobody physically restrained her" I am flying next week and I will give all STUPID people and Jihadist fair warning. I have not had a REAL vacation in seven years and GOD help you if you try this shit on my flight. I wont ask questions and I wont care about you political or mental state. I WILL KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS. I will then take my chances with a jury of my peers.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 08/04/2005 13:39 Comments || Top||

#10  I have not had a REAL vacation in seven years and GOD help you if you try this shit on my flight...

Sarge - Wait 'till the plane gets about 1000 feet off the ground (re: pressure) then toss his ass out the exit.

Of course then you will have...

"Hey mom, a dead arab guy just fell onto the neighbor's roof..."

"Yes, dear. What did I tell you about watching those Mel Gibson movies just before bedtime?"
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 13:55 Comments || Top||

#11  should have pushed the bitch out
Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 || 08/04/2005 16:14 Comments || Top||

#12  Have a really good time, Cyber Sarge. I can't imagine anyone stupid enough to cause trouble on a flight you are on. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 23:54 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
UN envoy seeks to break Somali 'political impasse'
On today's episode of "The Blind Leading the Blind"...
MOGADISHU (Reuters) - A top United Nations envoy said on Wednesday the 14th attempt to reinstate government in lawless Somalia in as many years had hit a "political impasse" due to a deep rift within the fledgling administration.
Damn! And they were so close I'll bet!
"After finishing these meetings, I can say there are clearly many differences among the members of the Somali federal institutions," the U.N. special representative to Somalia, Francois Fall, said in the capital Mogadishu.
Wow. You can tell he's a smart guy.
He was speaking after meetings on Monday and Wednesday with both factions in the new Somali government -- one based in Mogadishu, the other in the nearby town of Jowhar."It seems like there's a political impasse we are facing now," Fall told reporters before leaving Somalia.
Wow. You can tell he's a smart guy.
On Wednesday, Fall met powerful ministers and warlords Mohamed Qanyare, Muse Sudi Yalahow and Osman Ali Ato and parliamentary speaker Sharif Hassan Sheikh Adan in Mogadishu. He presented a roadmap to start dialogue on the problems of reconciliation, relocation of the government, the creation of a security force and the presence of foreign peacekeepers.
Oh good. A roadmap. Gotta have that. They work so well.
Fall presented the same proposals to President Abdullahi Yusuf and Prime Minister Mohamed Ali Gedi on Monday at their temporary base in Jowhar, 90 km (55 miles) north of Mogadishu.
Gedi and Yusuf say that Mogadishu must be pacified before they can return there.
See ya in about 3005, boys...
But the faction led by Internal Security Minister Qanyare says Mogadishu is safe and must be the capital straightaway under a transitional constitution guiding the peace process. "The security situation is ... good and the U.N. delegation will go anywhere in Mogadishu and its surrounding areas," Qanyare told local radio before Fall's arrival.
Yes, yes. Call my travel agent about those Mogadishu vacation packages.
ARMS EMBARGO
The rift has sparked warlike rhetoric and increasing military preparations by both sides in recent weeks.
Really? In Somalia? Can ya beat that...
The new administration was formed last year in the relative security of neighboring Kenya. Fractious militias have been the only real authority in the Horn of Africa nation since warlords ousted military dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991. Fall said both factions in Jowhar and Mogadishu had responded positively to his proposals.
Sure, buddy. How much money do we get?
"We accept and welcome his initiative," speaker Hassan told Reuters in Mogadishu. "We want dialogue and we are ready to reconcile in order to end the problems that exist so that our people can enjoy peace and stability."
Hey, ya got a roadmap now. Should be only a matter of time...
The U.N. wants the issues of relocation, reconciliation and security solved before it considers lifting a 1992 arms embargo.
Which has really worked out well.
That embargo, though completely ineffective in stopping the flood of arms into Somalia, is preventing foreign peacekeepers from bringing heavy weapons into the country.
See.
Earlier this month, the U.N. Security Council refused an African Union (AU) request to modify the embargo to enable AU peacekeepers to enter the country with their weapons.
That was on yesterday's episode of "The Blind Leading the Blind".
A delegation led by AU envoy to Somalia Mohamed Ali Faum arrived in Jowhar on Tuesday to set up an Africa Union office there, Abdurahman Dinari, the prime minister's spokesman said.
Who did Francois piss off to end up as the UN envoy to Somalia?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 09:57 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gee, they should have thought of this 10 years ago.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 11:23 Comments || Top||

#2  Wow, tu goes OldSkool Rb. Seems like the lerned elders of RB are picking it up a notch today, or maybe it's the mushrooms, who knows, I'll let you know, the lawn has scheduled a press conference at 1:30. Raking news maybe.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 12:51 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Dried elephant dung causes terror alert in Paris
A reddish powder trickling from a letter caused a terrorism alert in a Paris postal sorting office - but turned out to be dried elephant dung, police said on Wednesday. Six staff and two policemen were medically examined after contact with the powder - but it was found on analysis to be of the sort used in religious rites in Sri Lanka, a spokesman said. Paris has been in its second-highest state of terrorism alert following the July 7 and 21 bombings in London.

DPA
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/04/2005 09:55 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That is pure bull elephant shit.
Posted by: JFM || 08/04/2005 10:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Something about this situation stinks.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:35 Comments || Top||

#3  used in religious rites in Sri Lanka

(snort) "Dammmmmm, that's some goooood shit!"
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 10:43 Comments || Top||

#4  A minor point, but just who mails dried elephant shit to people these days?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 10:44 Comments || Top||

#5  I believe they intercepted the next Secret Ingredient for the French version of Iron Chefs
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 08/04/2005 10:46 Comments || Top||

#6  "A minor point, but just who mails dried elephant shit to people these days?"

A new Al-Qaeda splinter group called the Islamieatshit Brigade
Posted by: Attucks is Crisp || 08/04/2005 10:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Chirac always has said that the French food is better.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 11:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Elephant? I knew those evil conservatives were using terror alerts to further their own diabolical political motives!
Posted by: Chris W. || 08/04/2005 11:19 Comments || Top||

#9  "Sacre bleu! The Republicans, they are in Paris!"
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 11:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Tell the inspector it's dried elephant shit and give 'em 6 grams.

Sounds like the olde Religious Rites Dodge.


Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 11:52 Comments || Top||

#11  "A minor point, but just who mails dried elephant shit to people these days?"

Signifigant postage savings can be had by shipping the "dried" variety. Just add Evian water.
Posted by: Capsu 78 || 08/04/2005 12:11 Comments || Top||

#12  Come to think of it, I suppose they should be grateful that it was dried...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 12:17 Comments || Top||

#13  And they collect it intentionally!

Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:31 Comments || Top||

#14  Everyone's a specialist these days.
Posted by: Thagum Unolusing9859 || 08/04/2005 13:16 Comments || Top||

#15  they still use stamps that need to be licked
oh joy
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 14:09 Comments || Top||

#16  What - you mean it wasn't an art exhibit?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 08/04/2005 19:24 Comments || Top||

#17  Who spilled the secret to French Sri Lankan cuisine?
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2005 20:25 Comments || Top||


Europe
Bomb made only of flour, says suspect's Italian lawyer
Italian lawyers brains made of pudding; sez Army of Steve
One of the July 21 bomb suspects claimed yesterday the devices used in the alleged attacks contained only flour, according to his lawyer. In a report in Corriere della Sera, Antonietta Sonnessa quoted Hussain Osman, now in custody in Rome, as saying: "I would never have killed anyone, let alone did I even dream of committing a suicide bombing. I value my life, I've never even considered dying. It was a demonstrative action, as I've told you many times. I swear to you: in that bag there was a detonator but the rest was flour. It would have made a bang and scared people. That was all I did."
Pity you left behind that backpack containing that "flour bomb" evidence.
But Mr Osman's claims were dismissed last night by Scotland Yard. A spokesman said: "These devices were designed to kill and maim on a devastating scale."
Next claim will be "But they told me it was only flour! I'm a victim, 'at's what I am!"
"Why don't you believe-e-e-e me-e-e-e???"
Ms Sonnessa made it clear her top priority in defending Mr Osman was to foil efforts by the Crown Prosecution Service to extradite him to Britain. The bedrock of her argument against extradition is that his bomb was merely "a demonstrative action", intended to scare the British public but not meant to hurt anyone. With the help of his lawyer, who according to one Italian paper "has become a sort of diva in Britain", Mr Osman has been at pains to paint himself as a young man with nothing in common with hardcore Islamist terrorists like those who died in the July 7 bombings.
Except for the bomb in his backpack, of course...
It is claimed he is not a Somali but an Ethiopian called Hamdi Isaac who adopted a false name and nationality to obtain refugee status in Britain.
At issue is the bomb in the backpack, not which side of the border he came from...
In Rome, where he lived for several years as a teenager before coming to Britain, his "big dark eyes, like those of a fawn, and his long thick eyelashes" earned him the nickname Bambi, said a former girlfriend quoted in La Repubblica.
That should make him real popular in jug...
"He didn't mix in bad company," she said. "If a fight broke out, he'd always step in to make peace...He was obsessed with America ... He dressed rapper-style, with a dropped crutch and a basketball vest. He danced really well. Everyone knew he was a Muslim and a believer but he never talked about it with me, nor did he have any problems going out with those of us who were not Muslims. It was just that he didn't eat pork."
... and he was into explosives...
... and he had interesting friends ...
Mr Osman's brother Remzi, arrested with Mr Osman after the fugitive was found in his flat on the outskirts of Rome and now locked up in prison with him, went some way to confirming the image of the failed bomber as an innocuous charmer. In comments leaked by Ms Sonnessa, he said: "Hamdi was the baby of the family, and we always loved him." He said he gave him shelter "because I know he's not a terrorist, and certainly I'm not one either. It's true I'm a Muslim, I pray. But I hate the extremists, and it's not right I have to stay in jail just because of my dark skin".
Statement of support by Al Sharpton in 5-4-3-2...
Ms Sonnessa said Mr Osman was terrified at the prospect of being extradited to Britain. "I'm scared of what I could suffer in jail there, I'm scared of having to spend the rest of my life in a cell," she quoted him as saying to her during a three-hour interview in Rome's Regina Coeli prison. "I beg you, do everything you can to enable me to stay here."
Them big dark eyes and long thick eyelashes should make him real popular in the joint, along with his purdy mouth
The lawyer said: "We are examining every possibility to avoid him being handed over to the British authorities. I am convinced here Isaac could get a fair trial and prove that what he did was just a demonstration."
"Dammit, why did I have to draw this wacko, I was just beginning to get ahead in the public defenders office!"
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 09:51 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [16 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This strikes me as yelling fire in a theater. It is still illegal.
Plus, I don't buy it for a second.
Fuckyou asshat and I hope you swing.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:53 Comments || Top||

#2  "I'm scared of what I could suffer in jail there, I'm scared of having to spend the rest of my life in a cell,"

Should have carried that "demonstration device" onto the Tube.

And it sounds like his lawyer is a piece of crap, too.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 10:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Tune in again next week for another episode of "Jihadi Pussy"...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 10:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Oooooooooh, Bambi! I lust for you!
Posted by: Mahmoud Al-Jailbirdi || 08/04/2005 10:59 Comments || Top||

#5  The poor boy was a baker, but he bombed.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 11:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Which is worse, the terrorist or the lying rat bastard lawer who wants to turn him free into society? Flour, how fucking stupid do us crackers look?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 11:20 Comments || Top||

#7  It's Italy's secret weapon . . . the Pasta Bomb!
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 11:25 Comments || Top||

#8  ""If a fight broke out, he'd always step in to make peace...He was obsessed with wanted to destroy America ... He dressed rapper-style, with a dropped crutch and a basketball vest. He danced really well. Everyone knew he was a Muslim and a believer but he never talked about it with me, nor did he have any problems going out with those of us who were not Muslims. It was just that he didn't eat pork."

OHMYGAWD!!! Where do I start? He was a dancer and a devoted Muslim? Boy, are you an apostate or what? If the infidels don't kill you, the hardliners will.

One thing is for sure. You started of as a baker but you ended up a butcher and will end up being butchered.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 08/04/2005 11:42 Comments || Top||

#9  Pasta Bomb? hey you laugh? You wait till 10 tons of complex carbo hita you on noggin head!
Posted by: abu Chef Boyardee || 08/04/2005 12:03 Comments || Top||

#10  Guess he and his counsel are mistakenly applying Sharia Law Logic in a civil justice system. Uh, somebody do remind them the caliphate of Eurabia doesn't exist ... yet.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 12:22 Comments || Top||

#11  Ever seen a grain elevator explosion?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 12:44 Comments || Top||

#12  Yeah, some baker in London is wondering why his flour bags were filled with Semtex too. Bullshit!

However, us country boys do recognize one of them thar c-4 biscuits when we taste em.

got that fresh from the armament taste.

EP
Posted by: ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding || 08/04/2005 13:03 Comments || Top||

#13  So this mook was going to set off a bomb that 'simply' scattered white powder around. Gosh, if I was paranoid, I might mistake that for a bio-chem attack when it went off.

I was going to mention dust explosions as in grain elevators, but the ever vigilant Mrs. D beat me to it.

Posted by: SteveS || 08/04/2005 13:11 Comments || Top||

#14  "and the nails were made out of chocolate."
Posted by: danking70 || 08/04/2005 13:53 Comments || Top||

#15  I'd put lol for all these hilarious comments, if I didn't find this so f'ing serious! I'm with bigjim on this one. I say we hang him and his attorney!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 14:24 Comments || Top||

#16  For fans of "The Tick" ...


Posted by: ExtremeModerate || 08/04/2005 14:33 Comments || Top||

#17  Flour and a jelly detonator and custard flies out and covers everyone...
Posted by: Kent Mccord || 08/04/2005 14:56 Comments || Top||

#18  1-Adam 12 we have a 974 in progress. Handle with quilted gloves.

Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:34 Comments || Top||

#19  "And this hangman's noose is made of sweet dreams and puppydog's tails...."
Posted by: Mark E. || 08/04/2005 15:50 Comments || Top||

#20  ...I liked the Tick, but my fave on that show was the highly appropriate MIDNIGHT BOMBER WHAT BOMBS AT MIDNIGHT, BABY!!!!!!!

I wanted to be like him when I grew up.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 08/04/2005 20:44 Comments || Top||

#21  Tie up Mr. Osman inside an empty grain silo and then open up a couple hundred sacks of flour and pour the contents in through the top. Close the lid, then induce a spark inside the silo. :)
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 22:14 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Indian military investigates espionage
NEW DELHI - Indian military sources said on Thursday an investigation has been launched into alleged espionage by a soldier at a major air base near China, in which documents on troop deployments and high-level strategy were stolen. The investigation was prompted after the arrest last month of a corporal who worked in an area of the base with access to computer data. He was found with 100 pages of computer printouts of strategic importance, said a senior army officer who declined to be named. “It seems (the corporal) last year passed on copious data on missile locations, deployment of infantry battalions at China’s borders, weapons technology upgrades and classified minutes of commander conferences,” the officer said. Some documents, he added, had been stolen and passed on to rival Pakistan, which is a close ally of China.

The army officer said the thefts likely happened in a two-month period last year. “We are in the process of ascertaining what we have lost but from the surface it appears there has been a serious breach (of national security),” the officer said. A military intelligence official said the thefts were from a ”war room” at the Tezpur base in northeastern India and were likely passed on to Pakistan and then China.

The heavily-fortified base acts as a shield against three Chinese airfields in Tibet. The suspect’s father, who is a retired air force sergeant, and five others were picked up July 16 from the New Delhi suburb of Noida in connection with the case, the military intelligence official said. The Indian military declined any official comment.
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Africa: North
Mauritania calm after army says it has taken power
NOUAKCHOTT - Mauritania’s capital was calm on Thursday as the country waited for announcements from a group of officers who said they had seized power to end more than two decades of “totalitarian” rule by the president. Triumphant crowds cheered a statement broadcast on state media on Wednesday that President Maaouya Ould Sid’Ahmed Taya had been overthrown in an apparently bloodless coup, the latest in a series of attempts to oust him in recent years. Officers said in the statement signed by the “Military Council for Justice and Democracy” that they would rule for up to two years in the West African country, which aims to start pumping offshore oil next year.

Opposition leaders welcomed the prospect of a change of government, but said the army must not outstay its welcome. “In this crisis situation, a regime change was inevitable. But we would have wished that this be done in a controlled democratic way with all the parties involved,” said Messaoud Ould Boulkheir, president of the Popular Progressive Alliance. Many people headed to work as usual in the capital early on Thursday. Traffic flowed freely and small groups of soldiers guarded key buildings, though in smaller numbers than on Wednesday, witnesses said.

State radio said the 17-member military council would be headed by Colonel Ely Ould Mohammad Vall, naming a list of members comprised of officers in the country’s various security forces. The African Union, South Africa and United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan all condemned the seizure of power by force in Mauritania, a country of 2.9 million people. The United States demanded that Taya be restored to power. “We join the African Union in condemning the violence in Mauritania. And we call for a peaceful return for order under the constitution and the established government of President Taya,” State Department spokesman Tom Casey told reporters.

A Western oil executive, who declined to be named, said the apparent support of senior figures in the security establishment would bolster the coup leaders’ position, although they may still come under international pressure. “If your chief of police and your head of national security have gone you have got to wonder how many friends you have got left, it’s now a diplomatic game, the question is whether anyone is going to come to Taya’s side,” he said, adding that the country’s close-knit society may discourage violence. “In Mauritania everybody is everybody else’s brother or cousin, so they are not going to start fighting in the streets,” he said.
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Mauritania coup info
August 4, 2005: Mauritanian president Maaoya Sid'Ahmed Taya was apparently deposed in a military coup on August 3rd. Taya himself came to power in a 1984 coup. He has ruled as a dictator since, despite some sham elections recently. Early on, Taya was an admirer of Saddam Hussein, and backed Iraq in the 1991 Gulf War. But after seeing Iraqi quickly crushed, Taya became an ally of the U.S. Taya went further than that, and established relations with Israel, and cracked down on Islamic conservatives who opposed this move. After September 11, 2001, Taya supported American efforts against Islamic terrorists. In 2003, Taya faced down an unsuccessful military coup, one of many he has defeated over the years.

Mauritania is a large, dry country with only about three million people. Half the population is Arab, and half are black Africans. The country has long been one of those border areas between the Arab and black African worlds. Oil has been found in Mauritania, about $10-15 billion worth (at current prices.) But getting this oil out of the ground won't begin until next year. Currently there are some 500 foreign oil workers in the country, setting up the oil production operation. This oil wealth probably has something to do with the recent coup.

The UN, the African Union and most nations have condemned the coup. President Tava landed in neighboring Niger yesterday, and vows to regain power. This past June, American military personnel trained Mauritanian troops in counter-terrorism techniques. The Mauritanian armed forces are composed of about 15,000 troops, organized into twenty battalions and some smaller units. The army units are spread all over the country, and president Taya, with the help of some foreign nations, may be able to organize a counter-coup. Such an effort will rely more on cash than bullets. Meanwhile, most Mauritanians appeared to favor the removal of Taya and his small group of key supporters.
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#1  The country has long been one of those border areas between the Arab and black African worlds.

Islam's bloody borders
Posted by: mojo || 08/04/2005 9:56 Comments || Top||

#2  This past June, American military personnel trained Mauritanian troops in counter-terrorism techniques Great, now they are working for Islam.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 10:00 Comments || Top||

#3  The anthem is wierd too...

Mauruitania Anthem
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 13:04 Comments || Top||


Arabia
3 killed, 7 wounded in Yemen tribe clash
Three Yemenis were killed and seven others injured in a clash between rival tribesmen in eastern Yemen Thursday, security sources said. The sources said the clash erupted in the early morning between the tribes of Hamadan and Shulan in the province of Shouf. They said gunmen from Hamadan tribe, whose chief Hassan al-Iraqi escaped an assassination attempt Wednesday, intercepted a group of armed men from the rival tribe on their way to the capital, Sanaa, and clashed with them.
"Youse guys ain't gonna git away wid shootin' up da boss! Eat lead!"
Three gunmen from the Hamadan tribe, including Iraqi's brother, were killed and seven others injured, some of them suffering serious wounds.
Guess that ambush didn't go as planned
Iraqi and the chief of the Shulan tribe, Amin Akimi, also a member of parliament, were detained at the Defense Ministry for interrogation. Iraqi suffered an injury in the head when gunmen tried to assassinate him as he walked out of the ministry in Sanaa Wednesday.
His least vital spot
Battles between the two biggest tribes in Jouf province has been going on for more than a week.
"Yar, we be the dread tribes of Jouf!"
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#1  Boys will be boys.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:28 Comments || Top||


Europe
Extradition Hearing Set for London Bomb Suspect in Rome for Aug. 17
ROME (AP) - An extradition hearing has been set for Aug. 17 for the London bombing suspect jailed here, and a decision on Britain's request for him could come that day, the suspect's lawyer said Thursday. Hamdi Issac was arrested Friday in Rome at the home of his brother a few days after slipping through a London dragnet set up in that city after the botched July 21 bombing attempts of three subway trains and a bus.

Issac's lawyer, Antonietta Sonnessa, told The Associated Press it was likely the judge would make a decision at the Aug. 17 hearing. The court-appointed lawyer has said Issac wants to stay in Italy, suggesting he would oppose being sent to Britain, but no formal opposition was lodged during preliminary proceedings on the extradition request a few days ago. Many extradition requests in Italy take weeks or even months before a judge rules, but Britain has been pressing Rome for Issac's return as it cracks down on terrorism following deadly July 7 mass transit bombings in London.

Rome Prosecutor Pietro Saviotti has said Italian investigators are looking into any possible crimes committed in Italy by the Ethiopian-born Issac, a British citizen. But the prosecutor dismissed any idea that the Italian probe would block extradition. Issac has told Italian authorities he brought a bag with explosives into the subway on July 21, but has insisted to his interrogators that the attack was meant to grab attention, not injure anyone, according to Sonnessa.
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Home Front: WoT
NYPD Officials Reveal Details Of London Bombing
NEW YORK -- The suicide bombers cooked up their explosives using mundane items like hydrogen peroxide. They stored them in a fancy commercial refrigerator that was out of place in their grimy flat. And cell phones likely were used to set them off. Those details from the July 7 London bombing emerged on Wednesday at an unusually wide-ranging briefing given by the New York Police Department to city business leaders. The briefing -- based partly on information obtained by NYPD detectives who were dispatched to London to monitor the investigation -- was part of a program designed to encourage more vigilance by private security at large hotels, Wall Street firms, storage facilities and other companies.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly warned the materials and methods used in the London attack were easily adaptable to New York. "Initially it was thought that perhaps the materials were high-end military explosives that were smuggled, but it turns out not to be the case," Kelly said. "It's more like these terrorists went to a hardware store or some beauty supply store."

The NYPD officials said investigators believe the bombers used a peroxide-based explosive called HMDT, or hexamethylene triperoxide diamine. HMDT can be made using ordinary ingredients like hydrogen peroxide (hair bleach), citric acid (a common food preservative) and heat tablets (sometimes used by the military for cooking). HMDT degrades at room temperature, so the bombers preserved it in a way that offered an early warning sign, said Michael Sheehan, deputy commissioner of counterterrorism at the nation's largest police department. "In the flophouse where this was built in Leeds, they had commercial grade refrigerators to keep the materials cool," Sheehan said, describing the setup as "an indicator of a problem."

Among the other details cited by the NYPD officials:

-- The bombers transported the explosives in beverage coolers tucked in the backs of two cars to the outskirts of London.

-- Investigators believe the three bombs that exploded in the subway were detonated by cell phones that had alarms set to 8:50 a.m.

-- Similar "explosive compounds" were used in the attempted attack in London on July 21. However, the detonators were hand-activated, not timed.

Sheehan said the NYPD was troubled by information it had received about the bombers' links to "organizations," but he did not name any groups.
"We know those same types of organizations that they're affiliated with are very much present in New York City," he said. "That's something we're studying very, very carefully. ... This could happen here." After the briefing, police spokesman Paul Browne said the department had clearance from British authorities to present the information about the July 7 attack, which killed 52 people.

The session at police headquarters in lower Manhattan was attended by officials from police departments and law enforcement agencies in Baltimore, Washington, D.C., Philadelphia and other jurisdictions. The officials were in the city discussing plans to beef up security along Amtrak's New York-Washington route.
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#1  Amtrak's New York-Washington route

nope, nope - Chicago and the Sears Tower.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 10:03 Comments || Top||

#2  No no no no. It was just flour in the 7/21 backpacks!
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 12:26 Comments || Top||

#3  whatever happened to Adam Pearlman?
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 13:08 Comments || Top||


Britain
Britain Destroying Itself From Within
BY JOAN COLLINS (Yes, that Joan Collins)
A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within, said the American historian Will Durrant about ancient Rome. This self-destruction of values is exactly what is happening in England today.
Yes, I still call the country of my birth England, in spite of the peculiar political correctness that insists that it be called 'the UK' and that we, its denizens, must be 'Britons'. Even though the Welsh are proud to call themselves Welsh, as are the Irish and certainly the Scots, woe betide the Briton who calls himself 'English' -- a much-frowned-upon no-no. I believe that when a country loses so much respect for itself that it can no longer even be identified by its historically correct name, insecurity and lack of respect filter down to its inhabitants.

Recently, I have concluded that London is no longer the 'seat of civilised society' that the world once considered it to be, and is certainly not the safe city I grew up in. A particular incident demonstrated the lack of respect and manners that is but a small example of the horrible, encroaching decay of the country that I love dearly.

My husband Percy and I were at a ball at the Grosvenor House Hotel -- a black-tie event attended by the socalled 'elite' of the city. As Percy held the door open to let me through, a 6ft tall, middle-aged, horse-faced male pushed past me, trod on the hem of my dress and rushed outside to climb into the taxi that the doorman had waiting for us. This was a person who should, or at least looked like he should, have known better. The cause of his behaviour? The awful pervasive disregard that we have for civility today.
Bump accidentally into someone in the street these days and you are soundly cursed. Look at a poor derelict collapsed in a doorway for more than a second and they'll spit at you. Surely everyone has experienced the barely suppressed rage lurking behind the faces of a vast number of car drivers. We've become the 'Whatcha lookin' at?' culture. Why do young people consider it cool to be arrogant, swaggering and rude? Why do so many people in England seem so cynical and self-centred?

I witnessed young, drunken yobs roaming the streets kicking cars, screaming insults, pushing people and even pushchairs out of their way, attacking each other viciously and then turning on the police when they tried to maintain order. The whole scene evoked the image of hordes of inebriated Vikings sacking devastated towns. Even during the day, feral mobs roamed the cities with absolute disregard for anyone else's property or well-being. Traditional virtues of male chivalry and female propriety were very far from view.

After all, a lack of manners and politeness in a society can only be a reflection of what the society thinks of itself. It's frightful how being told that you are no good makes you hate yourself, and hate others. And it's frightful how quickly a whole country of self-loathers can be bred.
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#1  We've had a certain transition of our own here stateside. Yes I too feel we are evolving into a much hardened and bitter people. Alot of folks feel they are owed something rather than work for the better good.
I remember going up in an elevator with a doctor another woman and her daughter, with the woman degrading the doctor in front of the little girl. I will never forget the little girl looking up learning about behavior while her mom was yelling at the doctor. In hindsight I am truly sorry that I never intervened, I was so shocked by it. People show no respect for one another anymore it seems.
That being said, what can we do about it?
I am very proud to be an American,
I wonder how many folks living here are.
I love my country and what we stand for.
I wonder how many folks living here do.
I love where I live and my neighbors,
I wonder how many folks can say they love their neighbors.
I will never again allow someone to berate someone, everyone deserves to be treated with respect. We need to break the cycle.
I still believe that you need to earn something to appreciate it, not just be handed to you on a plate.
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 10:59 Comments || Top||

#2  spoiled brats usually get what they deserve in the end.
Posted by: bk || 08/04/2005 11:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Why do young people consider it cool to be arrogant, swaggering and rude?

Simply because there is no price exacted for behaving in this manner. If the little turds that act this way were taken down the first time, it's highly unlikely they'd do it again.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 14:10 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran anger at European 'threats'
Iran's top nuclear negotiator has accused EU foreign ministers of making factual errors and unacceptable threats over Iran's nuclear programme. Hassan Rowhani said that since Iran's suspension of some of its nuclear activities was voluntary, there would be nothing illegal about resuming them. Britain, France, Germany and the EU warned Iran against re-starting the enrichment of uranium. They said this would end two years of talks on Iran's nuclear activities.

Behind the European letter is the threat to refer the whole issue to the United Nations Security Council, which might lead to sanctions against Iran. The United States, which accuses Iran of wanting to develop nuclear weapons, has been seeking this course of action for some time.

Mr Rowhani said uranium enrichment activities would remain suspended for the time being. He accused the Europeans of failing to respond to Iran's proposal to give objective guarantees which would allow it to continue developing nuclear technology. "The three European ministers have said that if we restart [nuclear activities] this would mean the end of negotiations. This is a threat, this is unacceptable," said Mr Rowhani. "There is no judicial or political logic to send the issue to the UN Security Council, this would mean that the Europeans have given in to US pressure and they must assume the consequences," he said. "Once the Isfahan plant restarts, we want to continue the negotiations with the Europeans."

Mr Rowhani expressed his indignation over a warning by Britain, France and Germany that they would call "in the next few days" an emergency meeting in Vienna of the International Atomic Energy Agency's 35-nation board of governors, the body that would send the Iranian nuclear dossier to the United Nations Security Council. In their letter, the Europeans had questioned why Iran was in such a rush to produce its own nuclear fuel, when it currently had no operational nuclear power plants.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 08:49 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [17 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mr Rowhani expressed his indignation

"Do they know who I am? This is offensive."

Excuse me? These are the nice guys. Thwew is now someone named Bolton waiting in the wings. Don't be so offended so fast...

Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 14:07 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Jordan uncovers Zarq's boys planning to attack US military on break in Majik Kingdom
AMMAN (Reuters) - Jordan has arrested 17 militants linked to the al Qaeda network in Iraq and an affiliated Saudi group who were plotting to attack U.S. military personnel in the kingdom, security sources said on Thursday. They said interrogations of the suspects revealed that six of them had ties to Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, head of the al Qaeda network in Iraq, while the others belonged to an underground Saudi group known as the Brigades of the Holy Shrines. "They were planning attacks on foreign officers in the kingdom," said one security source, referring to a plot to attack U.S. military personnel who frequent five-star hotels while on leave from duty in neighboring Iraq.

The arrests came after an investigation that used informers to hunt Jordanian militants allied to Zarqawi who help recruit Arab militants to fight against U.S. troops. "The interrogations revealed their membership of these underground groups. They were recruiting terrorists for al Qaeda in Iraq and collecting donations for the organization," said another security source. Jordanian intelligence has stepped up its vigilance after receiving warnings of possible attacks against Western targets in the kingdom following the latest bomb attacks in London and the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.

Security sources say the militants are part of several Sunni fundamentalist underground cells that have been uncovered in recent months in Jordan. Prosecutors were expected to issue a formal indictment against the militants, who come from the Sweileh neighborhood of Amman, an impoverished Islamist stronghold, by the end of the month. There we go with the "impoverished" areas theory again, but I do like the below.

They will be charged with conspiracy to carry out terror attacks, which carries the death penalty.
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#1  Inspector Reynaud around?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Too bad, so sad.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 9:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Seventeen arrested... that makes a lot of threads to pull to start unravelling the Al Qaeda fabric. 7/7 and 7/21, distressing as they were/are, begin to look like a disaster for A.Q. and its affiliates. So many individuals swept up by the authorities, so much of the spider's web revealed, and a change in attitude across Europe to the mouthy Muslim radicals in their midst. I await with bated breath the next revelation! :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Still trying to figure out what the hell this has to do with Lebanon? LOL!
Posted by: danking70 || 08/04/2005 10:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Fixed title
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 11:02 Comments || Top||

#6  I was already uneasy about using the most prominent hotels in Amman. On my next break I'll choose a second-rank one (and since I'll be paying, it's doubly sensible). Jordan's very nice but it just feels like a juicy target. All the stikes against it - at peace with Israel, America's poodle (the jihadis probably know or sense the incredible amount of cooperation that remains unacknowledged), successful and moderate monarchy with a very secular feel.
Posted by: Verlaine in Iraq || 08/04/2005 11:10 Comments || Top||

#7  "...interrogations of the suspects revealed ..."
JORDANIAN interrogation? Ouch!
Posted by: glenmore || 08/04/2005 12:41 Comments || Top||

#8  Does anyone else get the impression that these folks have a zombie like personality, and robotically follow whoever is directing them?

The British bombers were reported to have become more "pious in their Islamic practice". It seems that something has grasped their mind and won't let go.

Similar to cults like Hare Krishna, Scientology, or Unification Church here in the USA when they get a hold of someone...
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:42 Comments || Top||

#9  ...and I second glenmore's thoughts on "Jordanian Interrogation". Do you suppose the Brits could borrow these guys from King Abdullah to question Haroun Aswad when they get him from Zambia?
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:53 Comments || Top||

#10  Sorry about the title mixup. Thanks for fixing Steve, lol! I was trying to quickly post this one and the story of the al-Jazeera video of Zawahri threatening the UK at the same time!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 14:04 Comments || Top||

#11  The impoverished areas is key. See improvished areas are areas (a) the authorities tend to be distrusted (b) the people tend to be more easily misled into idiocy (marxism for example) (c) the people can be bribed.

That does not mean impoverished areas create Jihadists, but it does make those areas potential safe areas that should be watched carefully.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 15:12 Comments || Top||


Britain
Al-Qaeda No 2 warning for London
Osama Bin Laden's lieutenant Ayman al-Zawahri has warned London will face more attacks because of Tony Blair's foreign policy decisions.
His comments were made in a videotape which was broadcast on Arab satellite channel al-Jazeera. The al-Qaeda deputy said: "Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing." Mr Blair has denied his policies caused the 7 July bombs, which killed 56.
Police are still investigating the bombings on Tube trains at Aldgate, Russell Square and Edgware Road, as well as a bus in Tavistock Square, and are also holding 15 people over the failed 21 July attacks. There is a massive police presence on London's streets, with 6,000 officers watching for a repeat of the attacks two and four weeks ago.
Al-Zawahri last appeared in a video in June, saying Muslims should not rely on peaceful protests but should also use violence. He also appeared in a video in February. The Egyptian-born mastermind is thought to be Bin Laden's deputy and to have been hiding in the rugged border areas of either Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Additional: Al-Zawahri, an Egyptian doctor who merged his militant faction with that of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan in the late 1990s, spoke with a Kalashnikov rifle propped up behind his right shoulder against a plain background. He has been in hiding since the United States invaded Afghanistan in late 2001.

Referring to the Western nations contributing troops to the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq, he said: "As to the nations of the crusader alliance, we have offered you a truce if you leave the land of Islam.
"Hasn't Sheik Osama bin Laden told you that you will not dream of security before there is security in Palestine and before all the infidel armies withdraw from the land of Muhammad?" al-Zawahri added.
"Instead (of accepting the truce), you spilled blood like rivers in our countries and we exploded the volcanoes of wrath in your countries."

He did not name any countries apart from Britain, but he appeared to be referring to the terror attacks in Madrid, Spain, last year that were linked to al-Qaida. "Our message is clear: you will not be safe until you withdraw from our land, stop stealing our oil and wealth and stop supporting the corrupt rulers," al-Zawahri said.

The tape showed al-Zawahri positioned in front of a woven cloth that moved with the wind and showed the sunlight, indicating it appeared to be made outdoors. He was wearing a white robe and a black turban and emphatically wagged his finger at the camera while speaking.
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#1  Thanks for snaffling my post, Steve - and removing the comments.
Posted by: Howard UK || 08/04/2005 8:58 Comments || Top||

#2  So it's official now. Self appointed master of the universe al Zawahri calls all you nutter apologists and "sassy" muslims suffering seething anger type Root Causes thingy in the UK to arms.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 9:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Sorry, Howard. So far I've pulled three duplicates of this story.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 9:11 Comments || Top||

#4  No videotape from Binny though. Did he call in sick maybe?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:12 Comments || Top||

#5  So the cheeky pervert of Islam and molester of innocent children has again come out of his hole to look at his shadow. It is a shadow that is hard holding its own these days. Zawahiri's pact with Satan to achieve power from the underground nest of vermin and rodents is well known. It is quite troubling to those who have not sold their souls to Satan. The troubling comes not from selfish fear but fear for generations of God's creations to do his will without a puppet of Satan manipulating disenfranchised people into spreading mayhem and murder in the name of Islam. Zawahiri is coached by the liar of liars who whispers into his ears at night through the mouths of young boys he keeps warm with. Zawahiri fools no one but himself and his associates of darkness. As the child that cannot have what she wants, Zawahiri too throws his tantrums manifested through his repeated calls to murder and oppress the innocent or well intentioned. Oh where art thou Zawahirili and where art thy brother Osama? Conspiring against God and all his creations that is what. Art thee now not unlike God himself and all his gloey Zawahiri? Are you not like his majestic being? You certainly portray the final word of God himself and pass infinite judgement upon all of God's creations. Art thou more robust and more clever than all of God's angels now are you? Have you found a throne yet for you as queen to your king and lord Osama? Will your burqua be spun will gold thread and adorned with blood-red rubies and be tended to by 72 young boys carrying your gold & silver sandals? Zawahiri... your reward from Satan must be vast to drive you down your slippery path slick with the blood of innocents. No suffering at the hands of man is justifiable, and we are all accountable to God. I truely see a fallen creation of God who answers only to Satan even during your charade of praying before others. Shame on you Zawahiri and your husband Osamma. I only await the day when one-eye Omar joins you two in unholy matrimony before your cohorts in Satan's plan. Shame on you pervert of Islam and molester of innocents.
Posted by: Greretch Sleresh2659 || 08/04/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Maybe today was binny's turn to *ahem* inspect the goat pen.
Posted by: BH || 08/04/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#7  lol, BH! I was wondering what binny was "up" to!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 11:00 Comments || Top||

#8  The al-Qaeda deputy said: "Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing."

We need to get this guy not only for America but for all the SEAL's that died.

"Hasn't Sheik Osama bin Laden told you that you will not dream of security before there is security in Palestine and before all the infidel armies withdraw from the land of Muhammad?" al-Zawahri added.

Isn't in their minds the whole earth Muhammad's land?
And this is an educated man??
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 11:16 Comments || Top||

#9  baaaaaaaaaaaah. baaaaaaaaaaaaaah. (sounds like one of the 72 virgins calling Binny and his band of merry child molesters).
Posted by: anymouse || 08/04/2005 11:28 Comments || Top||

#10  tu - Binny wan't there 'cause the new issue arrived, and he went to a quiet place to enjoy it...

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Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:10 Comments || Top||

#11  For those who saw the video, note the striking difference between the picture at the top and the face you saw in the video. This asstard has aged at least 10 yrs in the last 2. Gooood.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 12:28 Comments || Top||

#12  Noticed that as well .com. I hpe it's because it's not going well for him. Wonder what Osama looks like
These guys can just say something is going to happen to us, and if 4 idiots in any city decide to do something, Al Qaeda can claim it. Did'nt cost them anything, and our press will give them million of dollars of publicity.
Posted by: plainslow || 08/04/2005 13:45 Comments || Top||

#13  Premature aging is a well-known side effect of using the dark side ...
Posted by: Dan Darling || 08/04/2005 14:44 Comments || Top||

#14  Wonder what Osama looks like

Recent picture here.

(Apologies if my server crashes. It's been flakey.)
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 15:07 Comments || Top||

#15  My eyes!!!!!
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 15:21 Comments || Top||

#16  Yep, looks a little stressy, a little anxiety creeping under the turban to sleep with 'em every night...... forever.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:28 Comments || Top||

#17  I wonder how this fool with his illusions of grandeur can even sleep knowing that one misstep and his nest in Pakistan will be either overrun and he taken prisoner or he will be shredded by an explosion. All he can do is posture and run. You and your evil followers think thats something, well it is, it's a joke. An ant farts and he takes credit for it. Pretty soon the little people quit paying attention, I think they already are and he knows it. He is desperate for anything to claim as victory.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 15:39 Comments || Top||

#18  Fox showed the video excerpt and he wagged his finger a lot. I learned from a body language expert on Cavuto yesterday that finger shaking usually indicates a lie, and the finger pointing a subliminal gun for emphasis. Can't remember what the pointing down was, but I think it was a version of "burn in hell". They showed videos of Clinton, Nixon, and others that were pretty interesting, along with their careful choice of words. Zawarhiri also threatened to do to Washington what we did to Viet Nam....drop Agent Orange or napalm on the Mall?
Posted by: Danielle || 08/04/2005 15:40 Comments || Top||

#19  Sorry, Zawi, the Brits however imperfect are not known for retreating, or losing wars, or surrendering w/o a fight. Demanding for the USA andor the West to leave the "lands of Islam" so that you and Osama, etal. can work on achieving a Global Islamist/Jihadist State vv violence, conquest and misrepresentation isn't gonna cut it. Radical Islam's, the Clintons, and the Commies prob is that you all emanate auras/odors of MALICIOUS FAKERY, SELFISH INSINCERITY AND NON-DEDICATION TO THAT WHICH YOU CLAIM OR ALLEGE TO DEEPLY BELIEVE IN. Saladin and Suleyman, etal. are not known for sending dedicated Islamic youths on random suicide missions in the name of God!? Islam has been highly successful in preserving the traditions and male absolutism-patriarchy of the desert and steppes peoples, but what is yours and Osama's plan to achieve modernity, progress, civil rights and income redistribution, etc. under a Global Jihadist State, other than taking or destroying the Infidel(s)??? As someone whom fougt alongside Osama during the Afghan war I know and believe he hated the secularism and Russification of the Soviets, so why now does he and you Zawi fight for the same Russian/Soviet-esque values of ultra-conservative, anti-democratic, Regulatory, and God=Govt./Bureaucracy-centered "status quo" and National-Global Stratification!? The educated
Osama I remember equated Islam and its famous Personages of history with Democracy, Libertarianism, and Progressiveness, NOT VIOLENCE OR UNIVERSAL ANARCHY/DESTRUCTION OR POWER FOR POWER'S SAKE, TO TAKE FOR TAKING'S SAKE! Its not enough for Islam [or Socialism]to force itself on non-believers.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/04/2005 23:32 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Osama bin Laden’s Mandate for Nuclear Terror
Old - got it through one of my ML - but a reminder and backgrounder since there is an increased rumor about the possible use of nukes by AQ (WND & TFP's "American Hiroshima", Tancredo's remark,...). I'm so relieved to know that any use of a WMD on the infidels would be hallal! Wouldn't want the pious Lions of islam to offend allan by hijacking the ROP.
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Europe
Police consider Muslim link to cemetery attack
An another take on yesterday's british military cemetery desacration. My suspicions went to "racailles" (muslim juveniles) too, northern France (high muslim pop) plus firebomb (a stapple of racailles) plus beer bottles (another stapple, highlighting their hypocrisy) were not indicative of a leftist involvement.
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#1  Racaille means scum. I also have suspicions about muslim juveniles gangs (thet the PC french call simply "jeunes" ie young people) in plain words but use of racist language has no place in rantburg.
Posted by: JFM || 08/04/2005 9:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Oops my bad typing stroke again. Here is the corrected version.

Racaille means scum, lowlife. I also have suspicions about muslim juvenile gangs (that the PC french call simply "jeunes" ie young people like if not being in a gang made you old) and to say it in plain words but use of racist language has no place in rantburg
Posted by: JFM || 08/04/2005 9:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Ok, will keep it in mind, sorry if I offended you, but IMHO this is not a racist term and I certainly didn't use it as such, as it differentiates between "mainstream" muslims and the ones who have that "homeboyz" mentality.
It is actually non race-related, as it represents thugs from various ethnic origins including "ethnic french". It is a criminal juvenile way of life, not an ethnicity, the direct equivalent would be "yogs" (?) in british english IIRC, the french "lascars" beings "lads". Still, I admit most people think of africans or arabs when they hear that word, but then again, a large part of criminality, especiually violent street crimes, is done by theses groups (though most of their members are law-abiding persons).
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/04/2005 9:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Yobs.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:57 Comments || Top||

#5  5089

Since it looks like we are both French, we both know about the high proportion of Muslims between petty or not so petty criminals (despite the statistic being censored) in France. But a law abiding Muslim is not a "racaille" and a "racaille" is not necessarily a Muslim.

In Rantburg we fight some ideologies (and religions are a special kind of ideology) and the last thing we want is giving IndyMedia and similar moonbat sites the arguments they need to call us racist (I don't doubt they do it, but they are not able to show a proof).
Posted by: JFM || 08/04/2005 10:18 Comments || Top||

#6  Okey dokey, will keep that in mind, my bad. See you in No Pasaran (ok, I'm only a shameful lurker)!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/04/2005 12:10 Comments || Top||


France's Free Fall
Mr. Baverez, though he is un-PC and anti-idiotarian, is part of the MSM, which makes his views even more interesting. His book was successful, and sparked a debate, thus showing some people are aware of a situation increasingly harder to deny... mainstream diagnostic is beginning to catch up with the radical & liberal (tatcherite) one à la Claude Reichmann.
By NICOLAS BAVEREZ

PARIS -- This will be the year that the decline of France came home to the French. After the collapse of the giant strikes of 1995, after the civic crash of 2002 that saw the far-right leader Jean-Marie Le Pen get through to the second round of the presidential elections, the failure of the May 29 referendum on the EU constitution and of Paris's bid last month for the 2012 Olympic Games finally tore the last shreds of an illusion and revealed France as the sick man among the world's developed democracies.

The country is in a pre-revolutionary situation. Yet at the same time, considering the weakness of its ruling class, France could find a way to break out of its doldrums. For a change, the French people rather than their overweening State could lead the way in forcing on the country a shock therapy with little risk of political extremisms and social violence.

Traditionally, revolutions happen when a rift develops between the political elite and the people at a time of deep economic and social crisis, when the people feel humiliated and are in despair. The France of 2005 exhibits all these symptoms. The divorce between the people and the ruling classes is clearer by the day, seen not only in the country's politics but in its media and business. The current president of the Republic, Jacques Chirac, is universally laughed at. His opportunism is transparent, as are his many failures, despite which no credible political alternative has emerged on the left.

The economic ailments are also plain to see. Growth is stuck at 1.5% per year while productivity and purchase power rise less than 1% yearly. Public debt is exploding from 58% to 68% of GDP between 2002 and 2007. The nanny-state saddles France with a €15 billion annual deficit, on average. Add to that the brain drain and the expatriation of skills and businesses that flee a confiscatory fiscal and social system. France is thus caught between a dwindling productive base and soaring collective costs. No wonder that the country has mass unemployment that has been affecting more than 10% of the population for the last quarter of the century (23.5 % among the youth), 15% of the population living below the poverty level (including 1 million children), a steady decline in social mobility since the 1990's and the state's chronic failure in integrating the growing and restless immigrant population.

In response, France's leaders indulge in demagogy, deny reality and turn others' successes into excuses for their failure to reform. This feeds the nihilism and anger of the French, who are well aware that their nation's losing prestige and influence in a way not seen since the agonizing end of the IVth Republic in 1956-58. So anything is now possible, including political violence, but also the preparation of a radical change at the next presidential election in 2007.

These next two years inevitably will be lost, since a weak president won't be able to reform. We're already seeing the French government and people in a purely defensive posture, focused only on maintaining the status quo. The government is built around Dominique de Villepin, prime minister in name only, and Nicolas Sarkozy, president in the making. Mr. Chirac put them together in the sterile hope that this division would give him more leverage to write his own ticket in two years time.

The more the country sinks into crisis, the less it is capable of coming up with a clear vision for the future. That's especially true with economic policy, which is neither socialist nor liberal but merely schizophrenic and Malthusian. So France rails against unemployment but sanctions the "social model" that causes it; calls for reform of the State yet continues to increase public expenditures (55% of GDP) and the number of civil servants (5 million, or 20% of the working population); signs on to the rules of the EU and euro yet repeatedly breaks them, invoking a French exception, and indulges in protectionism.

For all that, the years to come will be decisive. From difficult, the situation could become catastrophic if -- as happened in 1995 and 2002 -- the 2007 election turns into yet another aborted attempt at modernization. Capital, business and skills will continue to flee, and the pauperization of France will accelerate. A full-blown economic meltdown in France would be a major crisis for the euro zone, as well. But presidential elections in the Vth Republic are intended to be a turning point when the people choose not only a president but a destiny for the nation.

The French have two years now to reconcile themselves to the realities of the 21st century and begin to confront their problems rather than hide from them. It will not be easy, but it will be necessary, to admit that they, and no one else, not "Europe" or globalization, are responsible for the decline of their country. As in 1958, the next election could bring a breakthrough. This modernization will need to be accompanied by an overhaul of institutions and economic and social models. Notions of work need to change, as well as attitudes to Europe. France must re-examine its conflicting and ambiguous relationship with liberty and modernity.

This country is upside down, as were the U.S. and Great Britain in the seventies, with major assets broken to pieces by a clogged political system and a vacuous economic and social model. In the absence of any direct outside threat or pressures linked to military operations, such as the colonial wars of the 1950s, it is up to the French alone to make a decision. Freed from the illusions of French might and finally convinced that their country is in deep crisis and come to accept that a cult of status quo doesn't amount to a strategy but to failure and impotence. The 1960s are over, the French are coming to realize. This country needs to adjust, to move beyond conservatism and fear, and replace disillusion with hope.

Mr. Baverez, an economist, is the author, most recently, of "La France Qui Tombe" (France In Decline), out from Perrin in 2003. This essay was translated from the French by Henri Fezensac.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/04/2005 08:01 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  *snicker*
I don't feel a sense of schundenfreud for the French people and I sincerely hope that they can turn things around. I'm not sure what the word is, cause I don't want anything bad to happen to anyone, but there is overwhelming satisfaction in seeing the self-rightous, pious, preachy, screechy liberals fially begin to grasp, what any person with a shred of common sense and logic should have been able to see a long time ago; that their holier-than-thou lets-just-wish-and-make-it-so beliefs were stupid, failed and harmful. Hey lefty liberals.. You were wrong others were right. Now shut up and go sit in the corner, your status of idiot has been confirmed.

/rant off.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 8:39 Comments || Top||

#2  oops..schaudenfreud.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 8:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Pre-revolutionary? Give me a break. Revolve to what? This is nothing a good election couldn't fix. The French can get hysterical.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 8:48 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm certainly feeling some Schadenfreude here.
Posted by: gromky || 08/04/2005 8:58 Comments || Top||

#5  "This country is upside down, as were the U.S. and Great Britain in the seventies..."
There was the oil "shortage" of '73-74 (our thank you present from the Saudis for supporting Israel who won the Yom Kippur war), but aside from that, economically we weren't doing so bad and still had pretty solid growth.
Not so's you'd compare us to the complete toilet the French are in now.
They brought it on themselves: Bon appétit!
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 08/04/2005 9:39 Comments || Top||

#6  "Growth is stuck at 1.5% per year while productivity and purchase power rise less than 1% yearly"

This is why socialist countries do not survive for long. If you are only required to work 35 hrs a week, exports are down dramatically, and welfare handouts to the un-productive Muslim leeches are up, I would say that you have a major problem on your hands. When French companies do make a profit, heavy government taxes puts the company at risk. Where
's the incentive for growth? Where's the incentive to stick around? Where's the incentive to branch?

California is a perfect example. California is our French state. A vast number of companies are deserting California. Business profits are taxed heavily in California to provide food stamps, welfare checks, medical & dental, and even college education, to the illegals. France has their Muslims and California has their illegals. I am not saying that Muslims and illegals don't work at all. I am saying that the taxes that they pay (if any) doesn't balance the amount that is needed to offset the cost of the social programs that they receive.

Most Americans already have seen this danger coming and that is one of the reasons that the GOP is the majority in the U.S. The GOP promotes small businesses, lower taxes, productivity and, in my opinion the most important item, moral and ethical values. Moral and ethical values are the core of every society. Once you have morals and ethics, everything else necessary, in a successful society, automatically comes in line. This starts with a moral and ethical government. Hence, one of the reasons Bill Clinton is despised. Due Bill Clinton's assertion that oral sex is not adultery, we now have thousands of middle school girls wearing braclets with different colors on them, because Bill Clinton has established that oral sex is not really sex.

This citizens of U.S. already have resisted the dumbing down of this great country. Now, it's time for the capitalist loving, freedom loving and values loving French citizens to stand up like a man and take your country back from the spineless worms in your government. As I have stated above, start with placing men or women with the highest moral and ethical values, not opportunists, in your government and the rest will fall inline. I promise you.

"But presidential elections in the Vth Republic are intended to be a turning point when the people choose not only a president but a destiny for the nation."

We chose President Bush. What say you?
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 08/04/2005 9:50 Comments || Top||

#7  California is our French state I'll second that comment. What's up with the different color bracelets?
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 9:56 Comments || Top||

#8  I see France sinking deeper and deeper into crisis, much like the Ottoman Empire did in the 1800s, until it dissolves into a Somalia type civil war. I don't see the spark from the people wanting to change things in the next election; I don't see any real move other than to maintain the status quo. The 'Non' vote against the EU was just that, maintain what we got. The bright and energetic people will continue to leave and France will get dimmer and dimmer until its light flickers out.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:01 Comments || Top||

#9  What's up with the different color bracelets?

A teenage fad. They wear stacks of different coloured translucent plastic bracelets on their arms, and supposedly each colour represents a different sexual behaviour they are willing to engage in. Trailing daughter #1 says that if anybody approaches her in that belief, he'll find himself walking away with broken kneecaps. She just thinks the bracelets are pretty.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 10:07 Comments || Top||

#10  Mrs Taliaferro

In the late eighties the USA was impacted by an economic catastrophe called Jimmy Carter. Last time I looked at it, the US economy was in the toilet by the time Reagan was elected.

I will not mention the military and diplomatic debacles: Iran, the hostage crisis (who were crucial in the development of Islamism) and that at a time where the US military was being reequipped with weapons like the F14, F15, F16 and M1 Abrams all immensely superior to their Soviet counterparts the Soviets were gaining ground during all of the Carter presidency (Angola, Mozambique, the perceived military imbalance in Europe who led to appeasement in European countries)
Posted by: JFM || 08/04/2005 10:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Yup, JFM. We had our troubles in the US, serious ones that were mostly self-inflicted, and are still fighting the remaining battles against the entrenched PC insurgents here.
Posted by: reads history || 08/04/2005 10:51 Comments || Top||

#12  aside from that, economically we weren't doing so bad and still had pretty solid growth

Huh???

I remember 18% mortgage rates, serious un/under-employment and wage & price controls.

They were real, they hurt and it was NOT obvious that they were going to get better on their own.

Serious misreading of the history on that claim.
Posted by: reads history || 08/04/2005 10:54 Comments || Top||

#13  By the end of Jimmy Carter presidency it really looked like the US would lose the cold war.
Posted by: JFM || 08/04/2005 10:57 Comments || Top||

#14  True, guys.
Sorry, I forgot about Carter.
(LOL--it's not like I want to remember him!)
But comparatively speaking, the US still wasn't in that bad of a shape economically even in the late '70's as France is now.
This country's had explosive growth since WWII and we've never looked back.
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 08/04/2005 11:06 Comments || Top||

#15  Oh, and I don't know if it looked like we were losing the Cold War, but it didn't hurt that we saw the invasion of Grenada (to upset a Communist régime) or the support of the Contras in Nicaragua under President Reagan.
I visited the Soviet Union in 1976 and they were in real bad shape!
Life was horrible there (there was no food) and no-one could even figure out who was in charge.
(Kosygin and Breshznev were both "ill and out of sight.")
So we had our problems (Jimmy Peanut was probably ready to give this country to the Commies!), but looking back, you could see the Soviet giant starting to crumble in a far more systemic way.
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 08/04/2005 11:12 Comments || Top||

#16  And don't forget the effect of Nixon' wage/price controls. That plus the oil crunch hurt us pretty badly.
Posted by: James || 08/04/2005 11:33 Comments || Top||

#17  I was about to say the same thing. I paid 18 percent for my first house around 1982.
Posted by: BillH || 08/04/2005 12:22 Comments || Top||

#18  Guys, I know the 70's had their bad moments, but you have to look at it in comparison to France; our standard of living, average amount of disposable income and rate of economic growth and productivity were still way ahead of France and certainly the USSR.
Monsieur Baverez is not correct to compare 21st Century France to America of the 1970's;
For us, it is a matter of getting a great President like Reagan in there after the disaster of Carter, but for the French, the problems go much deeper.
Bavarez is hoping that it will be that simple for France, hence his cite of Sarkovsky, the new Great White Hope of the 5th Republic.
Sarko, Dominique and Chirac all went to the same school for bureaucrats and policy wonks.
When it comes to government effecting economic and political change in France, plus ça change, plus c'est la meme chose(The more things change, the more they stay the same.)

That being said, I'd loved to see the French pull out of this slump.
I've lived in France and found the French charming, when they aren't being arrogant (LOL).
The cure for their problems would be a Conservative like President Reagan or President Bush.
But believe it or not, Jacques Chirac is considered a "Conservative" in France.
It's almost impossible for the leaders of these EU countries to convince their citizens that to lower taxes and improve business growth, they'll have to cut social welfare programs like "free health care."
Or that they need to be able to work more than 35 hours a week.
The British refused to adopt the EU 35-hour work week, because they like the extra income.
Even though they've been so awful to us, I hate to see France in decline, but c'est la vie.
And then there's those banlieu(suburbs) full of angry Arab/Muslim young boys/men...
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 08/04/2005 12:25 Comments || Top||

#19  Maybe the Soviet giant was crumbing, but it was Reagan who took a wrecking ball to the structure. Look how badly North Korea and Cuba are doing, and yet they're still around regardless.
Posted by: gromky || 08/04/2005 12:32 Comments || Top||

#20  Mrs Taliaferro

You are wrong about Sarkozy (Hungarian ie not Slavic name so no vski in it). Unlike Chirac and Villepin he wasn't a product of the ENA (French school for high ranking bureaucrats) and unlike them he didn't make a carreer as a bureaucrat but in the private sector (sort of, he was a lawyer).
Posted by: JFM || 08/04/2005 13:57 Comments || Top||

#21  A bit more: Father of Sarkozy was Hungarian nobility. He enlisted in the Foreign Legion but was released before end of term for health reasons.

One of his grand-fathers (mother side) was a Jew.
Posted by: JFM || 08/04/2005 14:13 Comments || Top||

#22  Time for another Paris Commune to sort it all out. Oh, and reserve a spot on the Place de Concorde for the 'ruling class' that got them into this mess again.
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 15:09 Comments || Top||

#23  But comparatively speaking, the US still wasn't in that bad of a shape economically even in the late '70's as France is now. Agreed! France's economic performance has deteriated sharply in the last 10 years (relative to USA/UK/Oz).
Posted by: phil_b || 08/04/2005 19:55 Comments || Top||

#24  For them to have any hope at all, they've got to run the Muzzies out NOW and make it perfectly plain that they won't be coming back. That includes the French-born ones. Just think of it as Algeria in 1962 all over again, except in reverse. It would not be that hard for France since they could easily bribe the generally corrupt governments of the Maghreb to accept them.
Posted by: mac || 08/04/2005 20:23 Comments || Top||

#25  A lot of France's problem is that their elite hasn't been backflushed in a long time. In America, when that happens, things get changed. In France, they play musical chairs with the same people in different jobs. They have a government custom designed for Le Grand Charles and it's not clear it works for mere mortals. Looks like maybe it's time for Republic VI. Some day they'll get it right.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 21:45 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
South Africa reveals plan to seize white farmers' land
The great success story of post-apartheid SA goes on.
By Basildon Peta in Johannesburg

South Africa's 50,000 white farmers are threatened with forced land expropriation after a government land summit called for a "fast-track" programme of redistribution.

The weekend summit was convened by the government to review the slow pace of land reform in South Africa. Significantly, it rejected the market-based willing buyer/willing seller policy as the basis on which redistribution must proceed.

The South African government has set a target of voluntarily transferring 30 per cent of productive farmland from whites to previously disadvantaged blacks by 2014.

But President Thabo Mbeki's government is worried the target will not be met, at the very slow rate at which white farmers are offering land for sale. It also claims farmers are asking for unjustifiably high prices.

Deputy President Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka told the summit the willing buyer/willing seller scheme, through which farmers voluntarily offer their properties to government at market prices, was a major drawback to land reform and said South Africa would embark on a "fast-track" programme to meet targets.

She was backed by Agriculture and Land Affairs Minister Angela Thoko Didiza who said the government should strongly intervene to ensure expeditious redistribution.

Details of the suggested "fast-track" are yet to be spelt out but the decision has been welcomed by campaigners for the landless poor. "We want this process to begin immediately," said Mangaliso Kubheka, national organiser for the Landless People's Movement. "We're waiting to see if the pledge will be implemented. The people have spoken. We need to see if the government will listen."

But white farmers and the mainly white official opposition Democratic Alliance are angry over the spectre of forced expropriations, which have echoes of President Robert Mugabe's land reforms.

They have dismissed the government's complaints as an "election strategy," ahead of local government elections later this year.

The farmers and the opposition have instead blamed the slow pace of land reform on "gross inefficiency" in the Agriculture and Land Affairs Ministry.

Prominent farmer Kraai Van Niekerk, a member of Agri SA, one of the biggest white agricultural unions, said he knew of many farmers who had approached the Ministry of Agriculture and Land Affairs with proposals to sell their properties for land reform but have not had an answer two or three years later.

"Each time they seek clarification, they are shuffled from one bureaucrat to another ... Changing the rules is not the answer. It's the government's method of operation that is the biggest drawback," he said.

Mr Van Niekerk warned that changing the rules would threaten South Africa's position as one of six countries in the world who are net exporters of food.

The Democratic Alliance spokesman on agriculture Maans Nel said the government should stop covering its mistakes by trying to play the "helpless victim".

If the government matched its commitment to land reform with the required budget and if it started implementing the legal measures at its disposal, the current situation would have looked dramatically different, he said. Ninety-nine per cent of blacks resettled were struggling because of lack of resources.

Mr Nel said there was enough evidence to prove that the incompetence of many officials in Ms Didiza's department was the cause of delays to land reform.

When apartheid ended and Nelson Mandela took over in 1994, 87 per cent of South Africa's agricultural land was owned by whites.

About 3.1 million hectares of land have been transferred to poor blacks, less than 2 per cent of available agricultural land.

Land reform is an emotive issue across southern Africa where the example of Zimbabwe looms large.

South Africa's 50,000 white farmers are threatened with forced land expropriation after a government land summit called for a "fast-track" programme of redistribution.

The weekend summit was convened by the government to review the slow pace of land reform in South Africa. Significantly, it rejected the market-based willing buyer/willing seller policy as the basis on which redistribution must proceed.

The South African government has set a target of voluntarily transferring 30 per cent of productive farmland from whites to previously disadvantaged blacks by 2014.

But President Thabo Mbeki's government is worried the target will not be met, at the very slow rate at which white farmers are offering land for sale. It also claims farmers are asking for unjustifiably high prices.

Deputy President Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka told the summit the willing buyer/willing seller scheme, through which farmers voluntarily offer their properties to government at market prices, was a major drawback to land reform and said South Africa would embark on a "fast-track" programme to meet targets.

She was backed by Agriculture and Land Affairs Minister Angela Thoko Didiza who said the government should strongly intervene to ensure expeditious redistribution.

Details of the suggested "fast-track" are yet to be spelt out but the decision has been welcomed by campaigners for the landless poor. "We want this process to begin immediately," said Mangaliso Kubheka, national organiser for the Landless People's Movement. "We're waiting to see if the pledge will be implemented. The people have spoken. We need to see if the government will listen."

But white farmers and the mainly white official opposition Democratic Alliance are angry over the spectre of forced expropriations, which have echoes of President Robert Mugabe's land reforms.

They have dismissed the government's complaints as an "election strategy," ahead of local government elections later this year.
The farmers and the opposition have instead blamed the slow pace of land reform on "gross inefficiency" in the Agriculture and Land Affairs Ministry.

Prominent farmer Kraai Van Niekerk, a member of Agri SA, one of the biggest white agricultural unions, said he knew of many farmers who had approached the Ministry of Agriculture and Land Affairs with proposals to sell their properties for land reform but have not had an answer two or three years later.

"Each time they seek clarification, they are shuffled from one bureaucrat to another ... Changing the rules is not the answer. It's the government's method of operation that is the biggest drawback," he said.

Mr Van Niekerk warned that changing the rules would threaten South Africa's position as one of six countries in the world who are net exporters of food.

The Democratic Alliance spokesman on agriculture Maans Nel said the government should stop covering its mistakes by trying to play the "helpless victim".

If the government matched its commitment to land reform with the required budget and if it started implementing the legal measures at its disposal, the current situation would have looked dramatically different, he said. Ninety-nine per cent of blacks resettled were struggling because of lack of resources.

Mr Nel said there was enough evidence to prove that the incompetence of many officials in Ms Didiza's department was the cause of delays to land reform.

When apartheid ended and Nelson Mandela took over in 1994, 87 per cent of South Africa's agricultural land was owned by whites.

About 3.1 million hectares of land have been transferred to poor blacks, less than 2 per cent of available agricultural land.

Land reform is an emotive issue across southern Africa where the example of Zimbabwe looms large.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/04/2005 07:58 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sell the kruegerands!
Divest the stock!
I ain't gonna play Sun City.
Posted by: eLarson || 08/04/2005 8:39 Comments || Top||

#2  WTF is it with these Africans? Next door they have the perfect example of "how not to do it" and yet they consider the same thing? I just don't understand such willful stupidity (Why are you hitting yourself in the head with a hammer? Well, my buddy did it and how he's a bloody pulp, so I thought I'd try it. Sheesh!)
Posted by: Spot || 08/04/2005 8:39 Comments || Top||

#3  But we've got to develop AIDS drugs and give them to them for free. Sheesh. Sub-saharan Africa is going back to their glorious 15th century past in a hurry.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 8:50 Comments || Top||

#4  But likes I said, makes sure they toss in a whitey to do all that plantin shit. Bob fuckup when he don't do that down here and my farm don't grow shit.
Posted by: Farmin B. Hard || 08/04/2005 8:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Looks like it is time for me to advise my cousins in South Africa to emigrate to Mexico...

I'd hate to see them caught up in another Zimbabwe.
Posted by: DanNY || 08/04/2005 9:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Next door they have the perfect example of "how not to do it" and yet they consider the same thing?

It's not about doing it right, or even doing the right thing.

It's about power.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 9:06 Comments || Top||

#7  IMHO, this is one of those "cut your losses and get out" situations. Any white farmers holding on are only fooling themselves. What little they can get for their land today will be more than they can get tomorrow. Life isn't fair and reality sux. Time to move on.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 9:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Saw this coming when Mugabe did the same thing and his African neighbors rallied around him checking the world opinion while their main source of food started becoming an food importer.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 9:43 Comments || Top||

#9  One five thousand acre farm makes more food than 500
ten acre farms. It doesnt take a genius to figure out that this is exactly what happened to Zimbob. Chavez is watching (and drooling) at the thought of doing this in Venez to rally public support for himself. We cant feed the entire world by ourselves, they better rethink this.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 9:43 Comments || Top||

#10  Hope someone has the good sense to hold this againt them when they come up in debt relief discussions.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 9:44 Comments || Top||

#11  We cant feed the entire world by ourselves, they better rethink this.

Hmmm... perhaps it should be against US law to sell or give agricultural products to countries that confiscate land in this way.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 9:53 Comments || Top||

#12  RC, rjs: Good ideas, all! Would you like to come assist me in NYC?
Posted by: John Bolton || 08/04/2005 9:56 Comments || Top||

#13  I have heard rumors for a year that the South Africans were thinking about doing this. It is getting to be dangerous to be white in South Africa. Time for them to move out and let that country sink into its own economic strife and civil war. I really think it is near time to write off the entire African continent.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:03 Comments || Top||

#14  hell let the fuckers starve
Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 || 08/04/2005 10:12 Comments || Top||

#15  Cut off Food and Aid LOL we cant even stomach to do that to the Norks who have the money to feed thier people but Kim Ill thinks it more important to have a Nuke for the invasion coming from the evil people who feed his f*cking country.

We need strong leaders Bush is to weak and the LLL's are just beyond weak.

S. Africa thou I doubt the whites thier will just lay down. They are more in number and have seen what laying down gets you (example just north). They will fight and it will be bloody. If they win or not depends on the US and Europe.
Posted by: C-Low || 08/04/2005 10:28 Comments || Top||

#16  C-Low:

Repeat of the Boer wars, huh?
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:37 Comments || Top||

#17  Reality testing:

1) South African whites, particularly those of Afrikanner heritage, have nowhere to go. No other country will issue them a passport.

2) South African whites have a heritage in the land that goes back to the 1600's.

3) When CNN starts broadcasting images of starving South African children (99.9% of whom will be black), we'll donate food aid. Just try not to.

4) There are not enough white South Africans to set up a separate country in a portion of the land. That was considered a while back at the end of the apartheid era by some of the hardliners, as I understand, but was never a viable option. There will be no Neu Boer War.

5) As you may have noticed over the decades, white South Africans of Afrikanner heritage aren't exactly popular on the world scene.

6) And land reform IS needed. It doesn't go over well to say, "well the old rules gave us all the land, and it would be unfair to have new rules that take land away from us." That isn't going to sell to the 75% of South Africans who aren't white. I believe confiscation on the Zimbabwe model will lead to mass starvation. But the current system will lead to revolution and massacre. And I don't see anyone in South Africa wise enough to solve this without bloodshed.

So basically, South Africa is screwed.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 11:11 Comments || Top||

#18  Time for an "Organization of Food Exporting Countries".

Cut off our oil? We'll cut off your food. See who lasts longer.
Posted by: Dishman || 08/04/2005 12:36 Comments || Top||

#19  The South African government has set a target of voluntarily transferring 30 per cent of productive farmland from whites to previously disadvantaged blacks by 2014.

The question is, would those "disadvantaged blacks" be any better at farming the soil than the previous owners?

We cant feed the entire world by ourselves, they better rethink this.

We should not be expected to, especially if the receipients' plight comes as a result of their own governmental stupidity.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 13:28 Comments || Top||

#20  Call me a racist, but the more I see from Africa, the more I agree with Kim du Toit.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 08/04/2005 15:15 Comments || Top||

#21  Xbalanke, you've cited the best assessment of what to do with Africa that I've ever seen. I was just in SA last Christmas. It's a scary place, particularly after dark. And yes, there is a lot of white flight because countries like New Zealand and Australia (and even the US) WILL give white South Africans passports. JC Smuts said that the future of black South Africans was, for him, lost in a dark mist. That mist will actually be the blood of intertribal warfare as the whites leave and the Zulus and Xhosas fight it out to see who gets to rule over the ruins of what was once a First World society. I wonder if anyone in the West will take note when the black victor, whoever it is, exterminates the coloreds and the Indians?
Posted by: mac || 08/04/2005 21:06 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Free Women Available Soon
Question
in todays' world, slavery does not exist and also muslims are not winning wars against kufaar to capture their women. We do not find anything like this today. My second question is that I've heard from a mufti in Dars-e-Quran that if a man is poor and cannot afford the amount of mehr and also expenses of marriage then he should enter into nikah with a londi as nothing is required to pay her, but in case of ordinary girl, he has to pay. Please advise in this regard.

Answer
Allah Ta’ala is our Creator and is All-Wise. What even he has decreed for us is full of wisdom, whether our feeble minds can fathom it or not. We, as his servants, do not question Allah Ta’ala regarding His laws.

While at present slavery may not be in vogue, we are informed in the Ahaadith that many wars will occur before Qiyaamat, and there will be utility for these laws of Shari’ah in the future. Yes, in the Qur’aan, Allah Ta’ala has explained that if a man cannot afford to marry a free woman, he may marry a slavegirl.

And Allah Ta’ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
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#1  Get ya some nikah with a londi.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 9:17 Comments || Top||

#2  While at present slavery may not be in vogue...

But you're working on it, aren't you, holy man?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:17 Comments || Top||

#3  When Al Moujahiroun website published their future islamic constitution for Europe, they expressely made references to slavery, the "rights" of slaves or slaveowners, etc, etc... I got that one somewhere.

Add the despisable contempt for wimmen and sexual repression that show in the islamic world (even I am not so bad, and God knows I'm a twisted, undersexed neurotic mommy's boy), and you've got one very bleak glimpse of the future, given that muslim share of the world population is going to greatly increase in the coming decades, with absolutely no islamic reformation in the making, and the West caught up in its own guilt-inducing multiculturalism and relativism.

There will be a large, unproductive part of Humanity which will deny most rights to one half of its population, in addition to any religious or ethnic minorities, and enforce the inherent inegalities beween believers of the Master Religion and others, and between free men and slaves.

This goes against everything the liberal tradition of the West holds dear. How can so called "liberals" (such an hijacked word in english) actually support this?

Let's hope the global WOT (and by that I mean the culture and ideas clash) will go well, because I don't want that comparatively younger and more populous muslim population to be expansionnist and aggressive.

Damn, that ruined my day, I'll go to ebay and buy some crap to cheer me up.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/04/2005 9:19 Comments || Top||

#4  While at present slavery may not be in vogue, we are informed in the Ahaadith that many wars will occur before Qiyaamat, and there will be utility for these laws of Shari’ah in the future.

There really isn't much you can add to that.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 9:24 Comments || Top||

#5  You guys are hilarious, especially classer with the title amended for we infidels!
You can see why we kaffir ladies are behind this war (on the Crusader side) 1000%--Life under the burka sux. Big Time.
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 08/04/2005 9:29 Comments || Top||

#6  You said it, Jennie.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/04/2005 9:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Look at the Yemenis and the Palestinians, the Pakistanis and the Sudanese: Yes, the babies are being born, but how many kill off one another before they have a chance to input into the production of the next generation? Not to mention the imaginary million or so in the Palestinian population figures, and quite likely elsewhere. Save your shopping spree for another day, anonymous5089, and take a nice, long walk in the fresh air and sunshine to clear your head and settle your nerves. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Besides, despite what the Koran may or may not permit, we Western women do not enslave easily, and have been known to get our own back. (I'm thinking specifically of one of Mr. Wife's cousin's brother-in-law, whose wife got mad at him one night, sewed him into the bedsheet, and beat him to a pulp with a frying pan.)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||

#9  It's all about domination of the special boys over the girls and other boys. Slavery's on the end of the sliding scale of domination but the basic idea of control and repress in varying ways and degrees is a constant theme throughout. Nice people.
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 10:14 Comments || Top||

#10  Misogynistic Islam cannot exist without the compliance of women. But such compliance can only be bred in a vacuum. Women must be trained from birth to be subservient slaves, that it is the only way they can live. And they can never, ever be exposed to women living free lives, or they instantly learn that there is another way--and from then on are no longer "pure" slaves. Not only that, but they can now "infect" other women with the desire for freedom. For this reason, I hope against hope that Dick Cheney steps down at some point and the Vice Presidency is given to Condoleeza Rice. The effect would be a quiet and simultaneous revolution among women the world over. Multiplied by the fact that she is of darker skin that most Moslems, and thus women like her are looked down on even further than light skinned women.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 10:50 Comments || Top||

#11  in todays' world, slavery doesnot exist and also muslims are not winning wars against kufaar to capture their women.

Tell that to the enslaved Sudanese, mufti-boy!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 10:53 Comments || Top||

#12  Free women! I am so there.
Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton || 08/04/2005 11:23 Comments || Top||

#13  'moose - VP Rice would drive all the people crazy we want to drive crazy... Ouch!
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:20 Comments || Top||

#14  VP Cheney could get his ducks in a row, then retire for "health reasons", partially true in that he would be laughing himself silly. The vote in the House would also be a blast, as long as republicans were threatened with grim death if they voted against her. Granted, the "black caucus" would vote against her, but any white democrat who did so would soon feel like he did a few rounds with Mike Tyson in his prime. Anyway, after Condi was VP, women all over the world would get a big pinch of assertiveness. A lot of that Sharia crap would get thrown back in men's faces, and if they wanted to argue the point, a butcher's knife in the purse might say otherwise. Hell, cultures all over the planet would go bananas, because, as a saying I have heard goes, "When women stand up, men sit down."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 13:59 Comments || Top||

#15  I'm thinking specifically of one of Mr. Wife's cousin's brother-in-law, whose wife got mad at him one night, sewed him into the bedsheet, and beat him to a pulp with a frying pan.

Hummm, I had a supervisor who told me a story like that once. She wouldn't have been one of those peaceful submissive asian ladies, would she?
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 14:03 Comments || Top||

#16  you suppose that if we were to offer them Helen Thomas as an preview of a Kaffir woman they might forget the whole thing?
Posted by: Flomoger Croluger3636 || 08/04/2005 14:22 Comments || Top||

#17  A lot of that Sharia crap would get thrown back in men's faces, and if they wanted to argue the point, a butcher's knife in the purse might say otherwise.

Which would result in tanker loads of stones being shipped to the Middle East to make up for the ones they used to stone the women.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 14:23 Comments || Top||

#18  I used "butcher knife" rhetorically. There have long been many ways for women to strike down men who oppress them. In ancient Rome, a particular plant was so often used to poison husbands that the authorities had to order every plant destroyed both within and far outside city limits. If nothing else, how easy is it to tyrannize a woman by ordering her to "get your fat ass into the kitchen and make me a pah!", if you actually want to *eat* the pie she just made, after.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 16:11 Comments || Top||

#19  if you actually want to *eat* the pie she just made, after.

And it didn't take 'em long to decide,
That Earl had to die
Goodbye Earl
Those black-eyed peas
They tasted all right to me Earl
You're feelin' weak?
Why don't you lay down and sleep Earl?
Ain't it dark
Wrapped up in that tarp Earl?
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 16:40 Comments || Top||

#20  #12 Free women! I am so there.

I ain't goen for this billywad, unless I can git moola for nothin too.
Posted by: Mamood Dire Straiti || 08/04/2005 17:01 Comments || Top||

#21  He's got it,

"...our feeble minds",

and then theys'a gonna fathom it, or not. Just call the bride a prostitute and be done with it. We got the message on all fronts by now.

MMmmm, blonde raisins.
Posted by: rhodesiafever || 08/04/2005 20:39 Comments || Top||

#22  trailingwife said,

Look at the Yemenis and the Palestinians, the Pakistanis and the Sudanese: Yes, the babies are being born, but how many kill off one another before they have a chance to input into the production of the next generation?"

Not enough...

Thanks,
LC FOTSGreg

Posted by: LC FOTSGreg || 08/04/2005 22:45 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
Cloned Puppy


HT Drudge

South Korean researchers are reporting today that they have cloned what scientists deem the most difficult animal, the dog.

The group worked for nearly three years, seven days a week, 365 days a year and used 1,095 eggs from 122 dogs before finally succeeding with the birth of a cloned male Afghan hound. The surrogate mother was a yellow Labrador retriever.

Dogs have such an unusual reproductive biology, far more so than humans, scientists say, that the methods that allowed cloning of sheep, mice, cows, goats, pigs, rabbits, cats, a mule, a horse and three rats, and creation of cloned human embryos for stem cells, simply do not work with them.

Woo Suk Hwang, the principal author of the dog cloning paper, being published in the journal Nature, wrote that the puppy, an identical twin of the adult Afghan but born years later, was delivered by Caesarean section on April 24. The pregnancy lasted a normal 60 days and the newborn pup weighed 1 pound 3.4 ounces and was named Snuppy.

Not Snoopy. The scientists named him for Seoul National University puppy.

Cloning researchers were awed at the achievement, but not everyone shared their admiration.

Nigel Cameron, a bioethicist at Chicago-Kent College of Law and director of its Institute on Biotechnology and the Human Future, noted some people see dogs as members of the family. "There's sort of a dry run here for the human cloning debate," he said. "What we do with dogs we may well end up doing with our kids."

Dr. Cameron said he objected to cloning dogs, but not farm animals or laboratory rodents. He said he did, however, oppose all human cloning, including cloning human embryos for stem cells.

The reason that other researchers are so impressed, said Mark E. Westhusin, a cloning researcher at Texas A&M University, is that with dogs, "their reproductive biology makes them a nightmare." Cats, in what might seem a turnabout, are biologically much less finicky.

Dr. Westhusin cloned the first cat, in 2002, on his second try. But, he said, after trying for a few years to clone a dog, "I quit."

His work with cats and dogs was sponsored by a private company, Genetic Savings & Clone of Sausalito, Calif. Its chief executive, Lou Hawthorne, said the company had spent seven years and more than $19 million in its attempts to clone a dog. It just opened a lab in Madison, Wis., with 50 employees. But, so far, no dogs have been cloned.

Other researchers say dog cloning is so hard, they will not try it. George E. Seidel Jr. of Colorado State said Genetic Savings & Clone approached him and "I refused." As for the South Koreans, who succeeded in what is the Mount Everest of cloning, it was "simply a heroic effort, a brute force heroic effort," Dr. Seidel said.

Snuppy is the second coup this year for the Seoul researchers. In May, Dr. Hwang's lab announced that it had created cloned human embryos and extracted stem cells from them. The dog project is separate, and its goal, Dr. Hwang explained in an e-mail message, is to use dogs to study the causes and treatment of human diseases.

Dogs have long been used to study human diseases. Rabies, in fact, was first discovered in dogs, insulin was discovered in dogs, and the first open heart surgery was in dogs. Eventually, the team hopes to make dog embryonic stem cells and test them in the animals as treatments.

Dogs presented a number of challenges to the researchers. Ovulation is once or twice a year, but not predictable, and no one has found a way to induce ovulation by giving dogs hormones.

Eventually, the South Koreans discovered, through trial and error, a signature spike in the hormone progesterone that signaled ovulation.

With other animals, scientists collect mature eggs from ovaries, but the eggs dogs ovulate are immature. They mature in the oviduct and so far it has proved impossible to extract eggs from a dog's ovary and mature them in the laboratory.

So the researchers had to pinpoint when to pluck a mature egg from the oviduct, and needed surgery to retrieve it, instead of the kind of needle suctioning used in other animals.

The next step in cloning of any other animal is to replace the egg's genes with those of an adult and let the cloned embryo grow in the lab for several days.

But no one has been able to grow dog embryos in the lab. So the South Koreans quickly started the cloning. They removed the genetic material from the eggs and replaced it with skin cells from the ears of Afghan hounds. When the altered eggs were starting to develop into embryos, the researchers anesthetized a female dog, slipped the eggs into the animal's oviduct, and hoped the eggs would grow into early embryos, drift into the uterus, and survive. They found they had less than four hours after starting the process to get the eggs into the female dogs.

Ordinarily, researchers give hormones to female animals that are to serve as surrogate mothers, preparing them to become pregnant with a cloned embryo. Not so with dogs. No one knows how to prepare a dog for pregnancy, so the researchers used the same dogs for egg donors and for surrogate mothers, 123 dogs in all.

In the end, three pregnancies resulted. One ended in a miscarriage, one was carried to term but the puppy died a few weeks later of respiratory failure, and one resulted in Snuppy.

Until dog cloning becomes a lot more efficient, few people will be able to afford to clone their pets. Mr. Hawthorne estimated that it would cost more than $1 million to repeat what the South Koreans have done.

The market among dog owners might not be much, in any case. Apart from ethical issues, Dr. Cameron said, dogs are like family members. "My dog is now deceased," he said. "But I wouldn't want to clone Charlie. It would be disrespectful to Charlie and to Charlie II."

Tina Vogel, an Afghan breeder in Norwalk, Ohio, agreed that cloning a dog "would be like cloning a person." And she is opposed to that. "If it was meant to be, God would have done it," she said.

She said Afghans have a reputation as the dumbest dogs around, but that is just because they are "very aloof," more like a cat than a dog. "They are sweet and affectionate. If you have one you can never go back."

Song to Follow
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#1  I EMailed BigEd to post this...
I was ready


What? Are they nuts?
Are we a pair?
Me nice Labrador Girl,
An Afghan my heir.
Send in the clones.

Isn't it bliss?
Will they approve?
One who keeps chewing up stuff,
One who cleans up.
Where is the clone?
You are the clone.

Just when I'd started
Thinking that,
I would chase balls
They took me to that dingy old lab,
They put something strange in me
Then you came to me my pup,
I did not mate,
No one was there.

Don't you love farce?
I think this is.
I thought that you'd look like me -
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clones?
There ought to be clones.
I guess you’re my clone.

What a surprise.
Who could forsee
I'd come have one like you
Not a bit alike me?
Why only now when I see
That you're a part of me
What a surprise.
Who would believe.

Isn't it nuts?
Isn't it odd?
Having a puppy right now
Snuppy its clear?
And where are the clones?
Quick, send in the clones.
Just like you my dear.
Posted by: Ogeretla 2005 || 08/04/2005 1:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Above sung to "Send In The Clowns"
Stephen Sondheim
Posted by: Ogeretla 2005 || 08/04/2005 1:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Tina Vogel, an Afghan breeder in Norwalk, Ohio, agreed that cloning a dog "would be like cloning a person." And she is opposed to that. "If it was meant to be, God would have done it," she said.

Ever hear of twins?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 7:26 Comments || Top||

#4  This (successful cloning) is probably the biggest event in our lifetime. For all the excitement, the potential ethical problems are downright frightening. Dictators will want to clone their faithful drones, people will steal DNA from celebrities and sell it on e-bay. We better set standards now, because looks like cloning is here to stay and it's not going away.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 8:14 Comments || Top||

#5  Not in dogs, RC. Each fetus is a separate egg and has its own amniotic sac inside the womb.

Dog reproduction is unusual among mammals in a number of ways, from the relationship of hormonal cycles to ovulation all the way through fetal development, delivery and post-whelping maturation (puppies are born well before full development of major organs such as the eyes).
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 8:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Um, breeder, the quoted bit specifically mentioned people.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 8:20 Comments || Top||

#7  My comment #5 was in response to RC #3 about twins, in case that wasn't obvious.

Afghan hounds have several fairly 'primitive' sets of alleles (values at various gene sites on the the chromosomes). Probably why they were chosen for this experiment. Other 'primitive' breeds such as Basenjis also have a tiny gene pool outside of jungle tribe dogs, with a concentration of some recessive alleles which can cause health problems.

Serious and responsible breeders know about this stuff - we pay hundreds of dollars for genetic testing before breeding and donate a lot of money for research to produce new tests. The recessives exist in nature, but there animals who inherit the allele from both parents may well not get a chance to reproduce and pass it along, so there's a natural leveling off of the amount of the allele in the gene pool. Breeders seek not to concentrate it further.

Humans have been allowing more and more people with the same sorts of problems to reproduce.

Cloning might just tip the balance if we're not careful.
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 8:23 Comments || Top||

#8  RC, I think she really is focused on the dog cloning thing too. This has been discussed for several years on the show dog breeders lists ... Vogel is a well-known and very successful Afghan breeder.
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 8:25 Comments || Top||

#9  people will steal DNA from celebrities and sell it on e-bay

F. Paul Wilson, "Dydeetown World". Hard-boiled detective stories in an SF setting. The dame in trouble is a clone of Jean Harlow.

Appropriately, the UN building had been turned into a house of ill-repute.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 8:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Damn this comment thread shows expertise comes in many flavors in RB... bravo, show dog breeder!

Btw, I fully support reproductive human cloning available to all: this may well be the only way I'll ever produce offsprings (not easy finding wimmen with my physique and personnality, not to mention my social achievements), plus I may well be tempted to get a copy of myself without all the design flaws. Wow, a successful me, what a swell idea!

Oh, and keep the lack of baby-making in developped countries, especially Europe, in mind too. What about factories of clones (cue "Star wars" theme)?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/04/2005 9:00 Comments || Top||

#11  Who let the clones out?
(Woof, woof, woof-woof!)
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 9:19 Comments || Top||

#12  Koreans cloning dogs?
Nah, too easy...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:28 Comments || Top||

#13  Ima thinka muckyfordu hava sombtin too say vrey sun.
Posted by: DragonFly || 08/04/2005 9:33 Comments || Top||

#14  Tu3031: Larry Niven wrote a story about a guy who goes to a planet populated by carnivores, gets his blood taken, and later finds out that his clones were being sold as dinner for the carnivore aliens. Once again, life imitates science fiction.

So, what happens to society when some people can afford to have a clone of themselves made so they can have a ready supply of body parts that won't be rejected? The Two Americas of the future: The clone-holders and everybody else. Scary.
Posted by: Jonathan || 08/04/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#15  tu...you beat me to the punch. Thinkin' the exact same thing.
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 9:50 Comments || Top||

#16  So, what happens to society when some people can afford to have a clone of themselves made so they can have a ready supply of body parts that won't be rejected?

See also, "Clonus: The Parts Horror" and its current remake, "The Island".
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 9:51 Comments || Top||

#17  Ok, if no one else dares, I'll do it.

"Puppies, the other white meat"
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 10:58 Comments || Top||

#18  Okay (sigh).

Just keep this in mind: the dogs and wolves have a more complex and sophisticated set of social behaviors and social verbal and body language signals than any other species except humans and some gorillas.

More complex, subtle and sophisticated than that of most other primates, in fact.

It's why they and we have partnered for at least 15,000 years and probably longer.
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 11:46 Comments || Top||

#19  And that's why cloning dogs and cloning humans are similar issues, as opposed to cloning (say) sheep.
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 11:47 Comments || Top||

#20  Cloned dog? Tastes just like regular dog!

-- Researcher
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 12:34 Comments || Top||

#21  Sic 'em, Fang.

Schutzhund spoke here
Posted by: abu Guarddog || 08/04/2005 12:50 Comments || Top||

#22  I'm not so much interested in the issues as I am in that littel Puppy. It's the damn image (don't laugh) of Cookie Dawg. An Afghan hound that hung out for years with me.... Dawg could bounce on his hind legs for 2 minutes at a time. Stone cold crazy tho and way too fast for the south.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 14:12 Comments || Top||

#23  Cloning is no good without genetic engineering to make it interesting. Why doens't this dog glow in the dark when he is mad?

Why doesn't this dog have photosynthetic skin so we can do away with feeding him and cleaning up after him? Then the mouth can be adapted for better catching of frisbies without drool.

If they are going to clone him... be bold and imaginative...

Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 15:22 Comments || Top||

#24  3dc-

Scientists are working on your requests...

Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 16:08 Comments || Top||

#25  Because dogs are perfection itself ust as they are ... at least mine are. ;-)
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 17:56 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
New nuclear submarine to equip Russian fleet in Far East
Hat tip to the Interested Participant, which also offers one-stop shopping for all your woman-teacher-caught-perverting-teen-boys stories.
MOSCOW, July 28 (Xinhuanet) -- Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said Thursday that Russia is to equip its Pacific fleet with a new generation of multi-functional missile nuclear submarine.

During his visit to the Kamchatka peninsula in Russia's Far East, Ivanov said that the nuclear submarine base of the Pacific fleet will be set in the Viliuchinsk city of the peninsula. The government will invest heavily for the completion the infrastructure of the base and it will be built into one of the most modernized in one and a half year.

Ivanov also revealed that Russia's new-generation strategic nuclear submarine Iuri Dolgorygiy, which is still under construction, will be launched in 2006. The submarine will be equipped with the new-generation "Bulava" missile which can carry 10 nuclear warheads. Another missile nuclear submarine Alexander Nevsky will be launched in 2007. After that, Russia will continue to construct other nuclear submarines, said the defense minister.

Ivanov added that Russia is ready to equip its forces in the Far East with modern weapons.
Interesting. Everything I read about the Russian Navy is that it's falling apart. Clearly some folks are working on changing that.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 01:18 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Probably want to ensure that they don't look to weak to the Chinese.

Lots of resources the Chinese might want in Siberia.
Posted by: Leigh || 08/04/2005 1:54 Comments || Top||

#2  I suggest putting wheels on the sub and keeping it in shallow water. That way when it inevitably sinks they can drive it on to land.
Posted by: Spot || 08/04/2005 8:42 Comments || Top||

#3  lol, Spot! Of course, I think their true motives are what Leigh says. Gotta protect the motherland against the Chinese.
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 9:42 Comments || Top||

#4  One missile with 10 nuke warheads. Wow! how practical. Why don't they ever learn? They cant keep the fleet they have from self destructing.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 9:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Just a desprerate move to try to keep things "afloat". The russians are another rapidly destructing society that longs for their glory days. Sorry chaps. Shrinking population and birthrates, high drug use, high unemployment, large social benifits and lack of national will translate into failed state.
Cya on the flipside...
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Shrinking population and birthrates, high drug use, high unemployment, large social benifits and lack of national will translate into failed state.

I don't understand, mmurray. I thought this was about Russia. Why did you bring France and Belgium into it?
Posted by: Jackal || 08/04/2005 13:36 Comments || Top||

#7  They have the formula for failure perfected too.
I think it is a socialist thing....
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 18:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Bigjim-KY, I'm missing your point.

We built MIRVs with 3-12 warheads too. In theory, at least, they make anti-missile defense much harder. Why is that a dumb thing to do?
Posted by: curious .... || 08/04/2005 18:19 Comments || Top||

#9  This is the navalized version of the Topol-M, the most advanced ICBM on the planet (maneuverable, decoys, NMP shielded) and similar in performance to the Trident D-5. Nothin to dismiss. Bring back the MX.
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2005 19:38 Comments || Top||

#10  Don't loose too much sleep Ed.... the MX lives

1986-H16
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 20:02 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Malaysia Forming Border Patrol Regiment for Thai Border
PENANG, Aug 3 (Bernama) -- Malaysia will form a Border Patrol Regiment soon to guard the border with Thailand.

Army Field Command chief Lt Jen Datuk Masood Zainal Abidin said the regiment would further tighten security at the border to prevent encroachment, smuggling and other illegal activities. The regiment would be of brigade strength and made up of military personnel, he told a news conference after attending the Malaysia-Thailand Regional Border Committee (RBC) meeting here Wednesday...

Masood said the details of the new regiment would be announced by the armed forces chief soon. Currently, soldiers were already patrolling the border from Perlis to Kelantan but the formation of the regiment would help strengthen border security.

Asked on the security problem in southern Thailand, Masood said it was a domestic affair of Thailand and Bangkok had not sought any form of assistance from Malaysia.

"However, we are prepared to extend our assistance if it is needed to ensure peace in the border areas," he said...

Posted by: Pappy || 08/04/2005 00:50 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Undoubted modelled upon the Syrian border patrol.
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 2:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Malaysia will form a Border Patrol Regiment soon to guard the border with Thailand

Gotta watch those rascally Buddhist "insurgents".
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 14:11 Comments || Top||


US Wants Littoral States To Decide What Help They Want
KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 3 (Bernama) -- While the United States (US) is ready to help enhance security in the Straits of Melaka, an international sealane, it will leave it to the littoral states to decide the kind of help they want.

"We stand by to assist the countries in the region and we will be looking forward to hear from them what is that they need to further enhance the security in the straits," US Ambassador to Malaysia Christopher J.LaFleur said Wednesday.

Speaking to reporters after presenting an Amcham-Macee Scholarship award worth US$20,000 to a Malaysian student here, he said the US was concerned with the straits' security in the wake of rising piracy which could threaten some 50,000 vessels plying the waters yearly -- ferrying mostly cargoes and oil.

"Security after all is important to all of us. It is important to our countries as trading nations. It think it is important to Malaysia and other countries in the region because your goods come through the same straits, there is lot of business.

"So we all share the interest of having safety and security in the straits strengthened and if needed we can cooperate with regional countries," he added.

LaFleur was commenting on Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Mohd Najib Tun Razak's statement yesterday that Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore would consider offers of aircraft from the US and China to conduct air patrols to avert sea piracy along the straits, but such move should not infringe littoral states' sovereignty.

However, LaFluer added that the US government fully respected Malaysia and other littoral states' responsibility to maintain security along the 900km Straits of Melaka.
Posted by: Pappy || 08/04/2005 00:47 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Still think Q ships are the immediate answer.
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 2:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, first off, could you stop calling us Littoral States? It's kinda...you know...
Posted by: Malaysia Indonesia and Singapore || 08/04/2005 10:42 Comments || Top||

#3  what wrong with littoral? Are you captive to a patriarchal view of sexuality?
Posted by: Nancy Friday || 08/04/2005 13:00 Comments || Top||

#4  oh wait - malaysia, Indonesia ... I guess you are. Never mind.
Posted by: Nancy Friday || 08/04/2005 13:01 Comments || Top||

#5  You're complaining? You oughtta here what I get called!
Posted by: New Jersey || 08/04/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Huh?
Posted by: Alabama || 08/04/2005 13:28 Comments || Top||

#7  "Florida, America's wang."
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 13:29 Comments || Top||

#8  Well, first off, could you stop calling us Littoral States? It's kinda...you know...

You think you got problems? We got problems. Of course, no one wants to hear about our problems. Oh, the pain, the pain...
Posted by: The Low Countries || 08/04/2005 16:00 Comments || Top||

#9  Don't excite us RC, we're not completely sedementary.
Posted by: Bull Gator Moron || 08/04/2005 16:10 Comments || Top||

#10  "President Andrew Johnson's polar bear garden"

OY the Shame will never wash away!
Posted by: Sewards Folly || 08/04/2005 16:40 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Israeli withdrawal due to Palestinian resistance -- Hamas
Palestinian Hamas movement said on Wednesday the Israeli pullout is the harvest of the resistance and sacrifice the Palestinian people have devoted.
And so the myth-making begins...
Speaking to reporters on the possible Israeli withdrawal from some Palestinian cities mid August, Hamas member Ismael Hanniyah said the Palestinian people are reaching a historic victory that has taken the life of many resistance fighters for several generations. To liberate Gaza Strip and the northern parts of the West Bank is the first step to liberate the Palestinian territories and return the rights to Palestinians, he said. "Under our governance, the liberated cities will witness a prosperous future and will be peacefully defended," Hanniyah added.
Oh, we can well believe it. Paleostinian governance is legendary...
He further said the Israeli withdrawal will not be at the expense of Al-Quds and the West Bank, in addition to other surrounding cities. He affirmed the determination to further defend the Palestinian national heritage and independence. Hanniyah expressed optimism that the Palestinian Authority will not in anyway attempt to halt Hamas' activities and its legitimacy, adding that all Palestinian factions and resistant groups stand together for a unified perspective.
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I just don't see them being happy or satisfied with only the Gaza strip. They will keep pushing and pushing to gain all, which is very scary.
Due to the Palies resistance? Whoa.
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  The should be careful. With no more settlers gloves can come off much faster.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 0:53 Comments || Top||

#3  the Israeli pullout is the harvest of the resistance and sacrifice the Palestinian people have devoted.

What a fascinating opinion! So, how is the weather on your planet these days?

A better way to characterise the 'withdrawal' is a fallback to a more defensible position.
Posted by: SteveS || 08/04/2005 2:07 Comments || Top||

#4  The only thing these bastards understand is force. I truly hope that the first time they shoot something over the fence the Israelis retaliate on a scale of 1000 to one. Lots of dead Paleos seem to send a message to the terrorists that nothing else does, and what they need to hear and understand is that if they continue to kill innocents, they themselves will be either exterminated or driven out permanently.
Posted by: mac || 08/04/2005 4:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Wait until they find all the bombs left behind by the Israelis.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 7:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Must've been all those successful rocket attacks... like yesterday's.
What a great future these folks have to look forward to.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:03 Comments || Top||

#7  With no more settlers gloves can come off

I'm sure that's the general idea ;-) But, shhh..don't tell them. Ignorance is bliss.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 9:06 Comments || Top||

#8  The gall of these sheet-heads is amazing! I, for one, can't wait to see the bright, peaceful future of these areas governed by these goons!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 10:17 Comments || Top||

#9  sheet heads - that's a keeper. Especially since they are the KKK on crack.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 10:21 Comments || Top||

#10  2b: That goes back to an old e-mail joke running around....it was a notice that they no longer wanted to be called "towel heads", but they preferred "lil' sheet heads."
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 10:24 Comments || Top||

#11  they have to say its cause of their bombings. If its cause of Israeli restraint, then the credit within Pal society goes to Abbas and Dahlan, their bitter enemies.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 08/04/2005 11:40 Comments || Top||

#12  What a load of crap!

Its was Pig-Ass (oops... I mean Ham-Ass) and the other terrorists, with their murders, who prevented Israel from leaving decades ago....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 12:29 Comments || Top||

#13  lil sheet heads...lol! took me a second.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 13:37 Comments || Top||

#14  Anyone who keeps tabs on Hezbullah agitprop via the "Beirut Daily Star" is well aware of the voluminous b.s. to be spewed after the Israeli withdrawal. South Lebanon redux...all hail the "RESISTANCE" and etc...
Posted by: borgboy || 08/04/2005 20:13 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
Zambia to hand suspected militant to Britain
LUSAKA - A suspected militant arrested in Zambia and linked by media reports to the July 7 suicide bomb attacks in London will be deported to Britain, Zambian President Levy Mwanawasa said on Wednesday. Haroon Rashid Aswad, a British citizen, was arrested in Zambia on July 20. Media reports have linked him to both the London bombings and an attempt to set up a militant training camp in the United States. “We have discussed with the governments of the US and Britain and we have finally agreed that Mr. Aswad must be deported to Britain because that is his country,” Mwanawasa told a news conference.
"Hands behind you, Mr. Aswad."
"Ouch! Damn those are tight!"
“The man was detained for terrorist activities and for violating immigration laws,” Mwanawasa said. “We are going to deport him very soon.” Zambian officials said that both British anti-terror investigators and representatives of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) were in Lusaka and that the British team had been allowed to interrogate Aswad.
"Basil, be a dear and hand me the number 7. Then check out the BA flights, we wouldn't want to be late."
Mwanawasa did not say when Zambia planned to deport Aswad, but a source at the British High Commission in Lusaka said he was expected to be handed over to British authorities on Wednesday. A British security source said earlier that Aswad could be of more interest to US investigators than to the team investigating the London bombings.
"C'mon Basil, hurry the hell up, we want a word with this mook."
"Of course Tyrone, but all good things take time. Care to stay for tea?"
A British Foreign Office spokeswoman in London said: “We have got agreement from Zambia to undertake a consular visit and hope to talk vigorously to the British national today.”
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can they say Asswad on TV these days?
Posted by: Monty Burns || 08/04/2005 9:51 Comments || Top||

#2  I hope the "interrogation techniques" are as "efficient" as those done by the Jordanian police that has been discussed elsewhere today...
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:47 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Grand Mufti asserts allegiance to King Abdullah and crown prince
Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and Chairman of Senior Ulema Commission and Religious Research and Ifta Department Sheikh Abdulaziz bin Abdallah Al Alsheikh on Wednesday asserted the country's allegiance to Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz and Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdulaziz. In a speech, Al Alsheikh praised the Saudi pledge of allegiance, noting that it came in accordance with the Islamic laws and the teachings of Prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him). He called on everyone to show commitment to national unity, and express loyalty to the Saudi leadership "as instructed by the teachings of Islam," praying to Allah "to bless Saudi Arabia and bring victory to Islam and Muslims.
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#1  Bran Muffins keep me regular
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||


King Aballah dictates Islam as constitution to equally serve all Saudis
Islam is the constitution in which will be followed to serve all citizens without any form of segregation, said Wednesday Saudi Arabia's Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdallah bin Abdul-Aziz. "I pledge to Allah and to all of you to follow the Quran as a constitution through the Islamic system" to equally serve all nationals, said King Abdallah in his first speech after Saudis pledged allegiance to him as the new monarch.

King Abdallah lauded his brother the late the late Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Fahad bin Abdul-Aziz in serving the Arab and Islamic nations, adding that the deceased was "my brother and my lifetime friend." While stressing the significance of the burden placed upon him as he assumes the responsibilities of the throne, King Abdallah prayed to Allah to be granted the wisdom and strength, with the assistance of all Saudis, to follow the path established by King Abdul-Aziz and his sons after him. In a similar speech, the new Saudi Crown Prince Sultan Bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud said, at the time of need, Saudi Arabia, the Arab and Islamic nations, as well as the entire world have lost a leader, a pioneer and a devoted person. Prince Sultan said the deceased had many achievements, but the most important was expanding the two Holy Mosques and establishing the King Fahad Complex for the Printing of the Holy Qur'an.
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [15 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In Karen I trust, now back to your burqas
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 6:54 Comments || Top||

#2  to serve all citizens without any form of segregation
So the chicks can drive now, eh? I thought not.
Posted by: Spot || 08/04/2005 8:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Let's face it. These guys are stuck in an infinite do loop.
Posted by: Michael || 08/04/2005 11:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Lucky for us that they're a very basic people.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 13:02 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Italian-UK unit leads Kabul force
A new Italian and British unit will assume command of the Nato-led peacekeeping force in Afghanistan at a ceremony in Kabul on Thursday. For the past six months, Turkey has led the 8,000-strong International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) - set up after the fall of the Taleban in late 2001. More than 30 nations contribute troops to the force, which was placed under the control of Nato in August 2003.

Afghan parliamentary polls take place in six weeks amid major security fears.

Command of the international peacekeeping force changes every six months. This time it is being taken over by one of five rapid reaction units in Nato. Most of its troops are Italian, including the commander.

But his deputy is British and no stranger to Afghanistan. He is Maj Gen Roger Lane, who led a Royal Marine force sent here in 2002 to hunt remnants of al-Qaeda and the Taleban - a mission that ended controversially, with his troops barely seeing any action.

This time, the key task is safeguarding September's parliamentary and provincial elections. Extra troops are on their way to help, with Nato promising to boost the strength of the force to 10,000 by polling day.

The main threat still comes from al-Qaeda and the Taleban - who have been blamed for an upsurge in violence this year that has claimed hundreds of lives. In fact, most of these deaths have occurred in the south and eastern border areas - controlled by the 19,000-strong US-led coalition force.

Isaf is still largely concentrated in Kabul, with smaller units in northern and western areas where security has been less of a problem. But plans are underway for Nato to move gradually into some of the more difficult areas.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6 views] Top|| File under:


International-UN-NGOs
Deliberations related to Arab summit started, timing being debated -- Moussa
The Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa said Wednesday that deliberations related to setting timing for holding the Arab summit, which had been delayed due to death of King Fahad of Saudi Arabia, have started, and that Arab countries are now debating a suggested timing. Moussa denied news reports on the cancellation of the summit set to be held in the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Sharm El-Sheikh. Moussa said he would also leave to Sudan on Saturday to take part in the funeral of the late Sudanese Vice President John Garang, who has died earlier this week in a helicopter crash accident. He stressed the need for the implementation of the peace process in Sudan.
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What is wrong with Moussa's tounge in the photo. He chewing tobacco?
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 0:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Anybody ever seen Jerry Lewis and this guy in the same place?
I didn't think so...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 8:58 Comments || Top||

#3  LOL, damn I thought it was me.......
Posted by: Mister Federal Reserve || 08/04/2005 13:26 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Biggest armory mosque for Grozny
Chechnya took a step closer to its predominant Islamic faith yesterday by announcing that Europe's largest mosque would be built in the shattered capital, Grozny, and that "one-armed bandit" gaming machines would be banned across the republic.

Ramzan Kadyrov, the deputy prime minister, whose private army is said to run Chechnya under brutal martial law, demonstrated his Islamic credentials when he gave the country's estimated 1,000 gaming halls a week to close. The Itar-Tass news agency quoted him as saying: "One-armed bandits are against Islamic norms ... I give these bloodsucking businessmen one week. If they don't comply, I will smash their installations myself." The machines "acted like drugs" on children.

His plans included a 10,000-capacity mosque. "Grozny has not built a single mosque since the 1930s, when all mosques were destroyed," Mr Kadyrov said in reference to the Stalinist purge of religion.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [13 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No No The Chechens are fighting the Russians they although a little over zealous at times dont give a flying f*ck about any rules of war. Mosques are just another target of oportunity. The US is the only country in the world that feels compelled to fight with one hand tied behind thier back.
Posted by: C-Low || 08/04/2005 10:14 Comments || Top||

#2  One-armed bandits are against Islamic norms

That's gonna piss off Abu Hamza.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 10:22 Comments || Top||

#3  The machines "acted like drugs" on children.

All together now - It's All About The ChildrenTM...
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 11:29 Comments || Top||

#4  hmmm, building in any proverbial flys on the wall?

What a wonderful window of opportunity here
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 13:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Steve, C-Low:

Y'all do realize that Kadyrov is an ally of the Russians who is fighting against Basayev and Dooku and company... I'd suggest searching on his name in the thingey in the upper-right-hand-corner... y'all can then read about how ruthless this guy allegedly is.

I could add, as an aside to any of the "we need more ruthlessness" crowd who might be reading this, that the Russians had been following those procedures for about the past five years or so, in a country with one-twenty-eighth the surface area of Iraq and one-twenty-sixth the population of Iraq. And there's still a significant terrorism problem there.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 08/04/2005 17:56 Comments || Top||

#6  And Fred, if you're out there... is Ramzan Kadyrov a good candidate to add to the searchable database?
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 08/04/2005 18:44 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Maoists release 22 persons they abducted in Nepal
KATHMANDU - Maoists facing increasingly hostile press and warnings from human rights groups Wednesday released 22 persons they abducted in southwestern Nepal over the past few days, police said on Wednesday.
Was it the bad press or the Gurkhas?
The police said the Maoists released the abducted persons, inmcluding a number of women, near Butwal, about 200 kilometres south west of the capital. The police gave no further details.

Nepalese media reports said the Maoists on Sunday and Monday abducted at least 22 persons living in a squatters colony near the Butwal Municipality. All were abducted from a forest near Butwal. The Maoists informed the families about the abduction, according to media reports, and warned them not to tell government security forces about the abduction.
"Sssshhh! It's a secret!"
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
"Bomber" Superimposed onto Metropolitan Police Surveillance Camera Photo?
(Picture at link)
..."At first, (almost) everything looks fine, but look closer... look at the guy with the white hat... check out his left arm (HIS left arm).... the lower of the rails of the railing is IN FRONT of his left arm... where of course it shouldn't be! I'm NO image specialist, but this sure looks ridiculous. I'd say itÂŽs a fake."

The CLG has also inspected this image. "The white-hatted man was apparently superimposed onto the photo. Not only is his arm 'behind' a railing that is supposedly several feet behind HIM, but also, upon magnification in Photoshop, part of the bar actually goes into his head. This was 'touched-up,' but pixels of his head mix unmistakably with pixels from the railing..."

Actually not. It's a function of a low-res camera with a transfer from videotape to a compressed video format.

Here's the man cropped from the original pic, original size.

And here's the same image enlarged...

In the smaller version, you can see that the light on his cheekbone appears distinct from the shading of the bar. The detail is lost on enlargement, making it appear that the bar runs into his head at an angle. Bars actually seldom do that. Note also that the bar appearing to run into his sleeve is also at an angle. Now, here's the cheekbone with more enlargement...

The bar running into the guy's head again resolves into two separate pieces (almost). The sleeve enlargement is here...
... and while it doesn't resolve as well as the bar-cheekbone meeting, it still retains its dip and then edges upward again, which probably makes it the stripe on the guy's jacket.

The moral of this story, of course, is that if you're an idiot you shouldn't dabble in conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [22 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ah! A conspiracy! Or maybe pixel burn-in...
Posted by: PBMcL || 08/04/2005 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  who and or why would someone do this? This is very concerning when you think of who would have access in the first place to do it.
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 0:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Are they Diebold cameras?
Posted by: Seafarious || 08/04/2005 0:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Optical illusion.

Cameras can be funny that way.

Thanks,
LC FOTSGreg

Posted by: LC FOTSGreg || 08/04/2005 0:51 Comments || Top||

#5  If you look closely, you can plainly see that the dude wearing the white cap is George Bush himself, off to his side is Cheney, the dude wearing the black hat is Blair, and first guy through the doorway is my cousin.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/04/2005 1:24 Comments || Top||

#6  LC-Optical illusion.
Cameras can be funny that way.


Exactimundo! - His left arm is bent at the elbow and his forarm is parallel to and above the rail...

Of course the police do have that sophisticated holographic projection equipment {WINK}... They could ruin these guys image with their perverted followers by projecting each of them carrying a ham... {he he he}
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 1:58 Comments || Top||

#7  I zoomed in on it and it shows nothing of the sort. It's a security photo. The definition is too low to support the kind of naked eye analysis that this site is claiming.

I have to say that I've never understood these kinds of claims. Is it the thrill of hoaxing thousands? The need to prove that the government is intrinsically evil and must always be altering documents and test results? (I mean who knows what the Constitution originally said, dude? Like George Washington was a hemp farmer, if you know what I mean. The right to smoke reefer _must_ have been in the Bill of Rights.) All I know is that tomorrow it will be on the websites of thousands of unbalanced individuals who will accept the assertion of some unknown hoaxster without question while subjecting every claim and statement of the government to prejudiced scrutiny.
Posted by: 11A5S || 08/04/2005 2:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Aww, the game is afoot! Why would Scotland Yard insert the 4th man, when obviously he wasn't there? Was it to 'team them up' for a nice conviction wrap up? or more sinister; the fact that they don't want to tip someone off to where he truly was surveilled!
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 2:12 Comments || Top||

#9  unbalanced individuals who will accept the assertion of some unknown hoaxster without question

You got that right.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/04/2005 2:15 Comments || Top||

#10  Bollocks.
Posted by: Howard UK || 08/04/2005 5:38 Comments || Top||

#11  11A5S, before you wholeheartedly dismiss all conclusions, remember the Lee Harvey Oswald 'Gun In The Yard' photo? An obvious tamper by our government, to set a conclusion of doubt, at the time! Aptly explained in the critically acclaimed "JFK"!
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 5:55 Comments || Top||

#12  [span class=PeterLorre]
It's a conspiraceee, I tell you, a conspeeraceeeeee!
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Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 6:24 Comments || Top||

#13  smn, may I suggest a higher grade aluminum foil for your headgear?
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 7:04 Comments || Top||

#14  I zoomed in on it and it shows nothing of the sort. It's a security photo. The definition is too low to support the kind of naked eye analysis that this site is claiming.

Might I suggest the effects described are a side effect of interlaced video?

Specifically, each "frame" of video -- NTSC and PAL -- is made up of TWO pictures. For PAL, they're each taken 1/50th of a second apart. Any motion between those two pictures will cause odd effects when it's viewed as a single frame.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 7:24 Comments || Top||

#15  Much ado about nothing.
Posted by: W Shakespeare || 08/04/2005 7:46 Comments || Top||

#16  Nah. He was beamed in there by the Mossad.
I thought everybody knew that...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 8:29 Comments || Top||

#17  Hmmm. Obviously a MI5/mossad/cia conspiracy to perpetuate the rape of the two beautiful arab daughters of Baghdad and Jerusalem. I knew this even before I zoomed in on the so called man in the white hat aka Bush! This message was revealed to me by magik text written in code in a pile of dogcrap I saw in the gutter yesterday. And no, I was not drinking too much green tea at the time!
Posted by: CuriousGeorgeGalloway || 08/04/2005 9:18 Comments || Top||

#18  SMITHERS!!...
Posted by: Monty Burns || 08/04/2005 9:47 Comments || Top||

#19  If it was faked you can guarantee there would be no sign. They would have cleaned up everything.

This reminds me of the lunar landing photos that some idiots claim are faked (yet actual photographers can easily explain). I don't get the conspiracy folks, they live in a twisted world.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 9:50 Comments || Top||

#20  Ah, we now know the evil Joos plot. It's really Manny, Moe, and Joe.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 11:19 Comments || Top||

#21 
Ever bodi luvs sumbody sumtime...

the bar runs into his head at an angle. Bars actually seldom do that.

Oh, now friend I wouldn't be saying that.... Ima say hello Mister Bar many times.
Posted by: Deano || 08/04/2005 11:59 Comments || Top||

#22  Great intro from Anonymoose!
Posted by: intrinsicpilot || 08/04/2005 12:49 Comments || Top||

#23  They are Mossad agents..in sports casual attire
Posted by: Kent Mccord || 08/04/2005 15:13 Comments || Top||

#24  The conspiracy Conspiracy:

Buwahaaahaaa! Little do they know; the real master plan involves sowing panic, fear and confusion among the Moonbats by promoting lunatic conspiracy theories.
It's a hell of a lot cheaper than a jackboot gestapo and unlike, say, a nuclear strike, it preserves our real estate and other capital assets.

In all seriousness, lurid conspiracy theories can be (and are in fact) a very successful component of our "black" propaganda.

The objective is to appeal to the vanity of idiotarians, always an easy task, while planting the seeds of doubt, fear, dissension, and confusion.
A good (if somewhat simplified) example would be a claim that Rovian forces have introduced some new kind of mind-control technology. This appeals to the individual Moonbat's elitist vanity, confirming its place on the cutting edge by virtue of knowing what others do not. However, upon reflection, it can also cause the Moonbat to doubt its own sanity.

Similarly, criticism of fellow radicals for various inconsistencies and shortcomings can be seen as ideologically rigorous, appealing to pseudo-Maoist elements in particular, but it will inevitably sow dissension and resentment.

It is always possible to raise suspicion that a devoted radical may in fact be a COINTELPRO plant or wing-nut troll. The target may resist this successfully, but the stain will linger. Accusation, the act of denunciation, has a hypnotic appeal for radicals, probably for its associations with absolute power, and they will not easily give one up once it is made.

Stories of unvincibly sinister assassination squads and flawlessly concealed disappearances appeal to leftist egoes, helping them to identify with glamorous Latin American revolutionaries and Hollywood rebels. If seriously believed or even seriously suspected, though, they have the same effect as actual assassinations and disappearances; paranoia, suspicion, and intimidation.

Finally, as I just intimated, conspiracy theories attribute real power to the conspirators. Totalitarian sympathizers ultimately fear and respect nothing else. A steady diet of conspiracy will embed the power of their enemies firmly into the leftist worldview, with an obvious potential for generating conflict and divided loyalty.




Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/04/2005 18:03 Comments || Top||

#25  Isn't there also a very real danger if you use this domestically? I know very little about psyops, but it seems to me that you run the risk of cementing in the minds of neutral / moderate people a false picture that the government is out of control and should be voted out of office.
Posted by: curious .... || 08/04/2005 18:15 Comments || Top||

#26  There is a danger, curious, which is why the theories must be designed to appeal only to those who are not moderate or neutral. This is a fairly difficult task, but there are ways.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/04/2005 18:34 Comments || Top||

#27  AC, I'd like to quote that description of conspiracy theories on my 'blog.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 08/04/2005 20:14 Comments || Top||

#28  Many thanks, Phil, and feel free.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/04/2005 23:07 Comments || Top||

#29  A final note: have you noticed that a strong propensity to conspiracy theories seems to be a characteristic of all of the countries that were conquered by the Mongols or the Turks back in the day? It seems to be built into the structure of the government the same way the Mukhabarat is.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 08/04/2005 23:36 Comments || Top||

#30  A large portion of the population either can't read or are barely literate, so they believe anything printed on paper. And, in most cases, the governments are not participatory, so what the people experience really is the result of secret plans in unknown places. Finally, the media feed them the most egregious nonsense all the time. So you get a society living on its nerves, incapable of judging reality from fairy tales.

In my very humble opinion...
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/05/2005 0:03 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Musharraf for close cooperation in defence with UAE
ISLAMABAD - Pakistan’s President General Pervez Musharraf on Wednesday called for increased cooperation between the United Arab Emirates and Pakistan in defence production. He said this while talking to the UAE chief of staff, Lieutenant-General Hamad Mohammad Tahni Al Rumeithi, who met him in Rawalpindi.

There has been close cooperation between the armed forces of Pakistan and the UAE in the areas of military training and education. The UAE is also one of the potential buyers of Pakistani small arms and ammunition, manufactured in just about every nook and cranny at the country’s premier Ordnance Factories, located some 30 kilometers south of Islamabad.

Cadets and officers from the UAE army, navy and air force regularly attend training courses at Pakistani military academies and the National Defence College.
'cause there's just no better training anywhere. ... 'specially in infiltration ... ... and subverting and compromising gummint officials ... ... and Quran reading ... ... and duplicity, don't forget duplicity ...
“There is a need to further strengthen ties between the two countries in the fields of defence and defence production,” an official statement issued after the meeting quoted President Musharraf as telling General Al Rumeithi.

Al-Rumeithi, presently on an official visit to Pakistan, also met naval chief Admiral Shahid Karimullah and vice chief of army staff General Ahsan Saleem Hayat and discussed ways to boost cooperation between armed forces of the two countries.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's Thursday and the Doctor is IN.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 12:44 Comments || Top||


Training an Afghan Artillery Battery
Afghan National Army soldiers recently conducted artillery live-fire training at the D-30 Howitzer range to improve their proficiency. More than 120 Afghan soldiers conducted two months of training to prepare for the annual range time.

The D-30 Howitzer, which takes a crew of seven to fire, is a 3.5-ton weapon with a range of over 15,000 meters. It can fire seven to eight rounds per minute. Afghan Army Capt. Mohammed Mohsin Hamdard, artillery commander for the 4th Combat Support Kandak (Battalion), 3rd Brigade, of the ANA’s 201st Corps, said the range time gave his soldiers the opportunity to reinforce what they learned in school and strengthened their training. "Today, the soldiers are doing exercises to increase their level of readiness. They are improving what they already know," he said. "We are soldiers and we need to learn more about our profession and we want to learn modern technology..."

Although the kandak’s primary mission is artillery, its soldiers are also used in support of many different missions throughout Afghanistan, such as presidential details and security patrols. "This kandak plays a large role in ensuring the stability and security of Afghanistan," said Marquart. "They are prepared to deploy to support their country at any time. This training gave them the opportunity to strengthen their skills."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  After they ran out of ammo the guys just didn't want to call it a day.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 0:16 Comments || Top||


Britain
Conservative MP urges "treacherous" Muslims to leave Britain
Muslims opposed to the British way of life should leave the country, even if they are UK citizens, a senior main opposition Conservative MP said Wednesday.
"Pack your turban and get the hell out!"
Conservative Shadow Defence Minister Gerald Howarth told The Scotsman newspaper that extremists who saw the Iraq war as a conflict against Islam should be considered as treacherous as Soviet sympathisers were during the Cold War. Howarth also criticised remarks by British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw and his own Conservative colleague Dominic Grieve, the Shadow Attorney General. Howarth said the majority of Muslims adhered to British values and he described how the British flag had been flown at a meeting he had with Muslims over last weekend. But the MP compared those who despised the British way of life with the traitors who spied for the USSR.
Same principle, isn't it? Treason is treason, no matter what flavor it is...
Those critical of him are left defending the idea that people hostile to Britain should be allowed to stay ...
"If they don't like our way of life, there is a simple remedy, go to another country, get out," Howarth said. Asked what if those people were born in Britain, he replied "Tough. If you don't give allegiance to this country, then leave. There are plenty of other countries whose way of life would appear to be more conducive to what they aspire to....They would be happy and we would be happy."
Sounds fair to me, but "fair" isn't what you'd call an Islamic ideal...
Howarth was apparently incensed by suggestions from Straw yesterday that the presence of British troops in Iraq was "part of the problem. And he criticised Grieve, who said yesterday that the London attacks were "explicable" because of the deep sense of anger felt by Muslims in the UK about various issues, including Iraq and the state of the Islamic world.
No other social groups seem to be capable of anger quite like it presents itself among Muslims, do they?
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fred-Excellent find! Looks like we are seeing more and more European types beginning to get a good dose of self-preservation antijihadics...
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 2:02 Comments || Top||

#2  My hunch is, a few more of those high profile terrorists attacks, and we'll all see the largest forced repatriation of arabs and muslims the world has ever seen! Question though, how would we handle ALL of our citizens being forced back home?
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 6:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Question though, how would we handle ALL of our citizens being forced back home?

Yesterday, I thought you were a Leftist troll being 'subtle'. Today, I think you exhibiting the classic signs of long term brain damage caused by prolonged and excessive ingestion of recreational drugs - disordered thought processes and bizzare conspiracy theories.

Although I must admit its hard to tell the difference.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/04/2005 6:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Question though, how would we handle ALL of our citizens being forced back home?

Fortunately, Canada gave citizenship to a lot of the anti-Vietnam hippies and the rest are too stoned too much of the time to find their way back.
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 7:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Why don't I think I'll see this at the BBC?
Hard to say that I disagree with his assessment.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 7:20 Comments || Top||

#6  Question though, how would we handle ALL of our citizens being forced back home?

How far back we going to determine what's "home"? Go back far enough, and Africa's gonna be crowded.

Don't go back far enough, and a lot of people are gonna have to be split into multiple pieces.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 7:28 Comments || Top||

#7  Don't like it here? Piss off then. Couldn't agree more.
Posted by: Howard UK || 08/04/2005 8:33 Comments || Top||

#8  Howard.... MSNBC here in the states just showed a clip from a new Ayman al-Zawahiri video in it he again threathens London and mentions Blair.
Posted by: Grins Sluper5274 || 08/04/2005 8:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Aye... tis ranting season for the terminally deluded.
Posted by: Howard UK || 08/04/2005 9:00 Comments || Top||

#10  Britain: Love it or leave it.

I like the sound of that.
Posted by: BH || 08/04/2005 9:56 Comments || Top||

#11  ".. If you don't give allegiance to this country, then leave. There are plenty of other countries whose way of life would appear to be more conducive to what they aspire to....They would be happy and we would be happy."

It's not about going back to a country of origin, it's about pledging alliegence to your country, and believing in it's credo.
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 11:27 Comments || Top||

#12  Phil, weak bladdered Buchannonite.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 13:05 Comments || Top||

#13  Most Americans are descendents of immigrants who came here for a better life and increased opportunity but they did not retain their nationalistic allegiances except to find excuses for parades and to drink beer in stupid costumes. These immigrants despise our western culture and want to impose some Islamic land of Oz on the rest of us. If immigrants have no intention of assimmilating, I can only presume the reason they come west is nefarious. It's kind of like those who want to make the rest of learn Spanish and accommodate them, all the while living on welfare and housing subsidies courtesy of the citizen taxpayers. I think we need new qualifications for immigrants just as they did in the old days...a minumum of finances, employment skills, etc. This is a War on Terror and we have way too many enemy infiltrators among us. I agree with James Woolsey who said it needs to be fought just like the old Cold War spy days, because treacherous sympathizers are here. I'll pitch in and do my part by paying for a flight back to wherever.
Posted by: Danielle || 08/04/2005 16:37 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Taleban kill eight Afghan security forces
KABUL - Taleban insurgents have killed four Afghan troops and four police officers in an attack on a checkpoint in the country’s east, interior ministry spokesman Lutfullah Mashal said on Wednesday. “A group of 50 terrorists attacked a checkpost in Kamdesh district of Nuristan province in which four soldiers and four police were killed yesterday evening,” Mashal told AFP.
How many dead Taleban?
Kamdesh is about 220 kilometers (140 miles) northeast of the capital Kabul.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [11 views] Top|| File under:


Amnesia Int'l condemns Nepal self-defense groups
Of course they do!
Vigilante groups used to fight against Maoist rebels in Nepal have caused an overall escalation in violence there, Amnesty International says.
Wonder if AI ever thinks it right for people to defend themselves ...
A new report by the human rights group criticises the government of Nepal for supporting these armed civilian groups.

In its report, Amnesty International says it is alarmed, accusing these forces of being responsible for a growing number of human rights abuses. "The creation of these village defence forces blurs the distinction between combatants and non-combatants, resulting in an increased number of civilian casualties," said Purna Sen, Amnesty's Asia-Pacific programme director.
Mostly Maoists ....
The forces are also, Amnesty says, putting more civilians at risk because Maoist rebels consider them a legitimate target.
The Maoists consider them a target anyway, which is why they formed self-defense groups ...
"Villagers told Amnesty International delegates that they were being terrorised by the (vigilante) groups, who were forcibly recruiting them, beating them, searching their houses and sexually harassing local women," the Amnesty statement said.

Some forces just act as guards, but others engage in active military-style patrols and search people's homes at night. The Amnesty report says there is ample evidence the Nepalese government is giving them practical help, including military training.
Which makes them more efficient, professional and competent; all bad according to AI ...
Nepal's home affairs minister told the BBC that was not true - but he did defend the idea of the defence forces. He supported them, he said, as a form of self-defence at this time of insurgency because government security forces simply did not have the resources to protect every village.

Concerns about these groups first surfaced last February when members of one village defence force killed 12 men accused of being Maoists. Amnesty International is now calling on the government to incorporate village volunteers into the police or military and to ban these armed civilian groups.
"Hey! You can't defend yourselves! That's ucky!"
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The strategy of using village self defense units is actually paying off for the Nepal Government. They are killing maoists in numbers the Nepali army cannot yet accomplish.

This of course is problematic for the human rights activists. When maoists kill villagers the human rights groups urge the Nepal Government to seek a peaceful settlement. They claim that no military solution is possible.

Well, a military solution is possible. The village self defense units and the Nepalese army can simply kill them all, or at the very least degrade them by attrition until they fade into irrelevancy.

Which is the problem (for Amnesty Interntional)
The human rights activists seek a delegitimization of the Nepali state (and neighboring Indian states as well), leading to incorporation of maoists within the government and eventual takeover.

The self defense units are exposing the lie. The problem is not violence. It is maoism. This is the 21st century and mao, marx and lenin have been consigned to the cesspit. The solution is for the maoists to stop being maoists, either voluntarily of at the end of a machete being wielded by a pissed off villager.

Being an uneducated villager, they have little tolerance for commies, unlike Amnesty International.

Posted by: john || 08/04/2005 14:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Damn fine John. Pleased to read 'ya.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 15:53 Comments || Top||

#3  The other problem it creates for AI is the growing movement to have th4e U. N. make the right to bear arms a universal right.

And have you ever heard AI complain that in Iraq terrorists "blur the distinction between combatants and non-combatants, resulting in an increased number of civilian casualties,"
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 16:20 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraq insurgents using more powerful bombs
WASHINGTON - Insurgents are using more powerful, armor penetrating bombs in attacks like those this week that killed 21 US marines in western Iraq, a top general said on Wednesday. “We are seeing larger amounts of explosives,” said Brigadier General Carter Ham of the US Joint Staff. “We are seeing different techniques that are being used in an effort to counter the efforts of coalition and Iraqi security forces to protect folks while they are moving -- different types of penetrators, different techniques of triggering the events.”

“I mean, again, this is a very brutal, lethal and adaptive enemy,” he said.
And not all of them are stupid.
Ham said an attack on Wednesday that killed 14 marines and interpreter was in the same area as an ambush on Monday that claimed the lives of six Marine snipers. He said the marines were in an amphibious assault vehicle, an armored vehicle that carries less armor protection than a tank, when it was struck by a roadside explosion in the town of Haditha.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well then maybe we should have an attack that kills 14,000.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 0:11 Comments || Top||

#2  “I mean, again, this is a very brutal, lethal and adaptive enemy,” he said.

Ok general, then it's time to get brutal, lethal and adaptive in return.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/04/2005 1:17 Comments || Top||

#3  I use to care'bigjim-ky', but I'm not going to give myself a stroke worrying about the US's response anymore to our valiant guys being picked off like that. No one in my family is over there, and I could give a rat's a** if we win or lose now!! I'm still 'smarting' over the dusty MOAB's I helped pay for, just sitting in their warehouses...holding the floor down!!
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 5:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Moderators and finger-waggers, note that I did not respond to Today's Winner. This restraint is, um, unsatisfying, to say the least.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 7:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Hey, I say go for it .com. I've already started.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/04/2005 7:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Admirable restraint, .com.

If you feed them, they not only keep coming - they leave troll droppings all over the nice clean floor.
Posted by: anon || 08/04/2005 7:51 Comments || Top||

#7 
smn: "...dusty MOAB's I helped pay for, just sitting in their warehouses...holding the floor down!!"

There are NO warehouses filled with MOAB's, dusty or otherwise. It was an experimental weapon, and is NOT in general production, besides, delivering such a weapon is problematic at best. Pinhead!

AR
Posted by: Analog Roam || 08/04/2005 8:59 Comments || Top||

#8  OK, enough with smn. He doesn't rate TROLL. He's just not good enough. I propose a DIMWIT designation, or in keeping with RB's alliterative tradition, a DDD - Dangerously Deluded Dimwit.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/04/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||

#9  Not only are they using more powerful bombs, but they continue the stupid practice of filming attacks, thus providing our guys with mucho info on terror tactics and such. See below:

http://crusader.rulez.jp/files/0804200501.wmv

After viewing video, note how the mortar team operated completely out in the open -- no foliage, brush, or trees to take cover from UAVs or aircraft.
Posted by: Attucks is Crisp || 08/04/2005 10:47 Comments || Top||

#10  He said the marines were in an amphibious assault vehicle,..

I'm kind of curious: Western Iraq, is it not all desert? If so, why ride around in an amphibious assault vehicle? And why cram so many of them into ONE vehicle?

It's not good to place too many potential targets in one spot. Spread 'em out, guys.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 13:20 Comments || Top||

#11  Oooooooops. Sorry. Can somebody fix that?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 13:38 Comments || Top||

#12  4,000 Hail Marys. lol.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 13:43 Comments || Top||

#13  Dumped the problem comment, the url blew formatting all to hell.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 13:52 Comments || Top||

#14  If so, why ride around in an amphibious assault vehicle?

Because that's what the Marines have for APCs. Besides Afghanistan, this is the farthest they have operated from a beach. I've heard they may get something Stryker-like in the future for in-shore operations., if that doesn't get the Army's panties in a bunch. Marines got tanks, but they ain't designed to carry troops inside.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 13:58 Comments || Top||

#15  And not all of them are stupid.

There's nothing quite so dangerous as a resourceful idiot.
Posted by: Crasing Jererong6917 || 08/04/2005 14:18 Comments || Top||

#16  The picture I was trying to post showed the aftermath (Thanks for the fix BTW, Steve). The AAV was totally flipped over. They weigh in at 26 tons, so this was no routine IED.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 15:44 Comments || Top||

#17  Sounds to me like they may need fewer guys per vehicle. Just as repeating rifles made the infantry square obsolete, large bombs like this may make APC's packed with a dozen guys obsolete, if the terrorists can keep it up. More vehicles, unfortunately, means higher fuel and maintenance costs. Politically, I see it happening if we keep taking hits like this one - no congressman is going to deny funding on this.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/04/2005 16:24 Comments || Top||

#18  Armoured segways with Blue Force Tracking.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 16:33 Comments || Top||

#19  The marines have some variant of the vehicle the Stryker was derived from.

I am under the impression that there's still a large stockpile of things like M-113's in Kuwait from the first gulf war. I wonder if it could be useful?

(Not to mention... aren't there Bradleys from the force drawdowns in the 90's stockpiled somewhere?)
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 08/04/2005 18:37 Comments || Top||

#20  A is C, OMG the wmv file is almost trance like. I have to say this is the first video of this type that I've viewed. I've seen alot of our guys stuff but not this.
Just enforces how nuts these guys really are.
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 18:48 Comments || Top||

#21  An M-113 or a Stryker wouldn't have made any difference, excepting maybe the Strykers's speed may have made the explosion tricker to set off if it was remote. Even unlikely a Bradley comes through this sort of explosion...
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:19 Comments || Top||

#22  Read Belmont Club's fisking of the General's press conference on the Marines deaths.
At this link.

Here's the first hint that this operation is qualitatively different from anything previous. The implication of Gen. Ham's statements is that in the past the coalition only had the ability to drive out insurgents locally, like chasing a soap bar around a tub. He strongly suggests that this time, there is no place to hide and the loss of the 21 Marines was in line with this new and offensive goal.

...
It turns out from the answer that the ongoing operation, which has no public name, is quite large. This operation runs all along the Euphrates River line "all the way out to the border".
...



Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 19:22 Comments || Top||

#23  Build berms on the sides of the frequently travelled roads, add concrete barriers. Maybe this might help.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/04/2005 19:35 Comments || Top||

#24  Anyone know if AAV7s have floor escape hatches? I suspect not due to watertightness concerns. If so, the Marines a better chance to get out if they were in LAV-25s or M113s.

Berms are perfect places to bury IEDs and would direct the blast directly into the sides of vehicles.
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2005 20:18 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Europeans toughen tone with Iran, warning sanctions if Tehran resumes nuclear program
France, Britain and Germany hardened their tone toward Iran, warning that Tehran risked triggering an international crisis and could face U.N. sanctions if it follows through with a threat to resume its nuclear program. The toughened stance on Tuesday came a day after Iran said it would resume nuclear processing at its plant in Isfahan, beginning Wednesday, and follows the election of a new ultraconservative government in Tehran.

In a letter to Iran's top nuclear negotiator, Hasan Rowhani, the three nations' foreign ministers and the EU foreign policy chief warned that restarting work would "terminate our dialogue" and push the Europeans to seek a special session of the board of the International Atomic Energy Agency. The agency's board can report countries to the U.N. Security Council, which in turn can impose sanctions. The Tehran government rejected the European stance. "The way is not to issue threats. Iran will not give in to threats," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said.

Earlier on Tuesday, France and Germany urged Iran to wait for a proposal from European negotiators that is expected this week. German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder said the European Union was prepared to offer extensive economic incentives to Iran, which he hoped could succeed in "de-escalating this dangerous situation." France warned that Iran would have to face the U.N. Security Council if it reopens its Isfahan Nuclear Conversion Facility and resumes uranium processing. "This Iranian affair is very serious," said French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy. "It could be the beginning of a major international crisis."
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [13 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm sure the Iranians are really 'thumbing their nose' at the EU3 over that threat! They know that when that would translate to 'boots on the ground' later, the EU3 will have to come crawling to pappa US for resolution; by that time, the Iranians will have made critical progress in their quest to resolve the nuke containment "packaging problem" before they 'cry uncle'!
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh, the dreaded 'Sanctions' threat. I'm sure the Iranians are shaking in their robes, as they are loading more ships with oil distined for Europe. The only card the Europeans have to play is the real willingness to turn to the US to lay waste to the country without remorse. That the mullahs know Europe is totally incapable of doing. The Europeans also know that the US can be counted upon to provide them protection cause of good allies like the Poles and Danes. Its all a free ride. Its all show.
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 2:07 Comments || Top||

#3  One constant in this universe on this matter, is that Israel is the wildcard. The rest of us nations can 'jawbone', 'hobknob', and cajole; but Israel has it's ass in the crack from Iran. The rest of us can grin and spin...but high noon is coming!!
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 5:44 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm thinking it would be an insult to shit to say that is a shit-for-brains post. So I won't.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 7:39 Comments || Top||

#5  but Israel has it's ass in the crack from Iran haha! Now there's an image. Having some translation problems are you, smn?
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 7:54 Comments || Top||

#6  *Yawn* Maybe a stern letter from Uncle Kofi is in order.
Posted by: Spot || 08/04/2005 8:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Sanctions you say!?!!?
If history is any guide,there will be some high level meetings in Russia, Germany, France & the UN to figure a way to cash in on them.
Or does that only happen when the US is the one pushing for them?
Posted by: JerseyMike || 08/04/2005 8:35 Comments || Top||

#8  "The way is not to issue threats. Iran will not give in to threats," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said.

What about Tomahawks or Bunker Busters? Will you "give in" then, there mullahs? I'm watching you!
Posted by: John Bolton || 08/04/2005 10:23 Comments || Top||

#9  The rest of us can grin and spin...but high noon is coming!!

Must be hard spending the whole night thinking this deeply metaphorical stuff up...
Posted by: Pappy || 08/04/2005 14:47 Comments || Top||

#10  When I start deep trollin I want more than one liners by .com and Pappy.
Posted by: Bull Gator Moron || 08/04/2005 16:12 Comments || Top||

#11  One doesn't become "deep" by digging. Is that one line? Or two? Or three? Or...
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 16:14 Comments || Top||

#12  sanctions might not be so ineffective - the mullahs can deal with university students, and with ethnic minorities, but can they deal with millions of unemployed youth? If we can cut off investment in their oil industry, theyve got a major economic headache.

Of course that assumes the Euros have the cojones to even take this to the UN. But then they may not have the cojones to keep pissing off Uncle Sam, either. And then theres the Russians. So i wouldnt count on anything happening.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 08/04/2005 16:18 Comments || Top||

#13  "If we can cut off investment in their oil industry, theyve got a major economic headache."

What? You can't back that up because it's demonstrably wishful thinking. The Euros have backed off on sales of tech gear and investments, as stories posted here a few months ago pointed out (featuring Germans and Halliburton, IIRC), and who's jumped in? Russia and China - who laugh at the Punch 'n Judy show called the EU3. To suggest otherwise is facile and superficial. They are rolling in money, thanks to oil prices. There won't be an uprising of unemployeds. Now the "youth", well now, that's a different story... that has absolutely nothing to do with any "threatened" foofoo sanctions.

The population bubble, the "youth" of Iran, was created, ironically, by the Ayatollah Khomeini's "revolution" (devolution is more accurate) which outlawed all forms of birth control. Their dissatisfaction with the MM's is due to the fact that their parents remember pre-MM Iran - and have planted the seeds of freedom, of an open society, of electing a "reformist" and have it actually mean something. To be overthrown by them would be irony of the first order. They are the only hope for an internal end to the MM Mullahcracy.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 16:38 Comments || Top||

#14  I share your skepticsm that the Russians and Chinese would allow the Iranians to be cut off - theyd stop it at the UNSC, or ignore the sanctions. Still, anything that sets the Euros against the Russians and Chinese is good, and I suspect is why the admin has been pushing the EU3 forward on this.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 08/04/2005 16:41 Comments || Top||

#15  Problem is they live in a police state. It takes a long time as we have seen for it to reach a tipping point, this point is years in the future, us trying to help it will just make it farther off. We may hjave to take action well before the tipping point is reached.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 08/04/2005 16:47 Comments || Top||

#16  lh - Now the juxtaposition of the EU3 vs Russia / China sounds like fun, lol! But they'd cave in the minute a few bucks hit the table. The socialist nanny-state situation has made them weak. I won't say all three are falling, the UK is doing fairly well, but France is at the tipping point now and Germany, well, we'll see how Madame Merkel handles things. She doesn't have forever to undo the socialist program burden and she won't last if she moves too fast.

I like the idea of screwing Puttyputz and Hu. If only the EU3 weren't paper tigers.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 16:53 Comments || Top||

#17  SPo'D - I hope like hell we are doing something to hasten the tipover - like clandestinely cooperating and organizing the anti-Mullah groups. And that is likely more a case of wishful thinking than the EU3's sanctions having an effect. Sigh. We shall see, but I hold out no real hope it will happen internally because I seriously doubt we have the assets to help them. And they're just thug-bait as things are now.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 16:59 Comments || Top||

#18  I keep hearing this bullshit about sanctions, but am not impressed, even though it is a necessary first step towards Iran's destruction.

However I am glad we're allowing the Europeans to take the lead on the "negotiations" so that the socialist Euro protestors don't lay out the old "America is just looking for an excuse to go to war" bullshit.

In fact we're not looking for an excuse, We've got plenty of reasons to go ahead, including some righteous revenge on yonder new "president" for his role in the embassy takeover.

We're just biding our time, preparing for the foreseable eventuality we know is coming.

First Syria, then on to Iran.

EP
Posted by: ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding || 08/04/2005 17:40 Comments || Top||

#19  Western sanctions won't matter more than a cup of warm spit. China is Iran's largest oil customer. Even if Europeans can work up the nads to isolate Iran, China will gladly take 100% of Iran's production. Any Iranian imports can more than adequately be made up by Chinese (thanks western, esp. US, rope selling capitalists) or Russians.

No one, including the US is going to invade Iran. Europeans better get used to living with the nuclear threat again, but this time with the added bonus of jihad and colonization. Eventually the threat will reach US shores.
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2005 18:14 Comments || Top||

#20  And then it will be toooooo late! The Imperial Persian State will have overrun all of Europe, destroyed the Zionist Entity in 12 nuclear blasts and escaped without a blemish. Post-Putin Russia works closely with the Perisans because of an ethnic affinity going back thousands of years. The only hope for the west is maybe, just maybe thousand and thousands of little tiny asdf;lkjdfas

WHAT?
Goldie: Were going to type the salvation of the west against the Perisan Empire will rely on thousands and thousand of tiny slipper eating robots? That's stupid. Matter of fact the whole concept of a fierce modern Perisa is stupid.

THUMP.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:41 Comments || Top||

#21  Once the MMs are armed with more than a few, it will be too late. Conjecture #3 looks more and more likely because it seems that we cannot summon the will before we loose a city or two.
Posted by: SR-71 || 08/04/2005 21:32 Comments || Top||

#22  When I start deep trollin I want more than one liners by .com and Pappy.

Lucky he even gets that.
Posted by: Pappy || 08/04/2005 21:57 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
North Korea fails to show for meeting of chief envoys
BEIJING - A scheduled meeting of the top envoys to talks on North Korea’s nuclear program failed to take place on Wednesday because delegates from the Stalinist state did not show up, a source close to the negotiations said.
Did he faint from hunger?
South Korea’s chief envoy Song Min-Soon had said the meeting, on the ninth day of six-party talks, would begin at 3 pm (0700 GMT). It was supposed to put final touches to a Chinese-drafted joint statement on how the North might abandon its atomic arsenal. But the meeting did not take place.
Oh I am just so surprised.
The source said the North’s chief delegate Kim Kye-gwan and his team went to the venue Wednesday morning but returned to their embassy soon afterwards. “The North Korea delegation has not come out of its embassy compound since midday today,” he told AFP.
And just try making them.
Christopher Hill, leading the US delegation, told reporters they had not received North Korea’s comment on the fourth draft of the Chinese document aimed at setting out the principles of how North Korea should disarm. “We don’t know about the status of the DPRK’s comments and their attitude to the Chinese draft,” he said, referring to North Korea by its official name Democratic Peoples’ Republic of Korea.
"But we can guess," he added.
“I suspect the Chinese may want further discussions and we will be happy to do whatever the host wants,” he added.
"Ya, sure, you betcha, give us a call when something happens, okay?"
“I think we are really getting to the end of this negotiating process. I am not going to predict it is over today or tomorrow, I just don’t know.

“But, certainly, in terms of the negotiating process, through this week and the past ten days, I think we are getting to the end of this.”
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#1  The 'other shoe' is about to drop. I suggest the US trains it's eyes in the sky on all of those facilities poised to emit steam from this day forward!
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe that theorized Ebola-bird flu (link) made its way to Korea. Just the bird flu, without all the sexy recombination would be bad enough. In what sort of condition is the average Nork immune system?
Posted by: Rory B. Bellows || 08/04/2005 1:04 Comments || Top||

#3  DPRK No Show at Meeting because...



I have replaced ambssador.

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Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 2:28 Comments || Top||

#4  Now that you mentioned it; that WAS funny...BigEd!
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 5:24 Comments || Top||

#5  He had a tummyache?
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 10:15 Comments || Top||

#6  Don't worry about the Bird Flu or Mister A-Bomb gents, their ass belongs to me. Little inside info for friends under Denver International. CUMALONA Dinga DONGA lama lama. Mexico IS wood! Silver Halide WILL RETURN! Thunder in the North, Rain in the East, they CALL THE NUTZ MARIA, MARIA!
Posted by: Mister Federal Reserve || 08/04/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
India says militants waiting in many Kashmir camps
NEW DELHI - India said on Wednesday militants were waiting in a large number of camps in Pakistani Kashmir to sneak across a ceasefire line into Indian Kashmir. “Recent reports indicate a large number of launching camps along the Line of Control (LoC) have been activated where militants have been kept in readiness for infiltration,” Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee told the upper house of parliament.
Fred, the surprise meter is getting very warm to the touch. Overuse?
Mukherjee’s statement came despite assurances from Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf last week in response to Indian concerns about militant camps, when he said the ”situation is on the brink mend”.
Guess Perv will need to serve up some more pablum ...
Last month, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said the ”infrastructure of terror” in Pakistani Kashmir remained intact, despite a 20-month-old peace process between the subcontinental rivals. Mukherjee’s comments were a sign of India’s growing concern about violence in Kashmir.

Indian figures show that in the first half of 2005, 463 terrorists militants were killed in Kashmir, against 495 in the same period of 2004.
Dang, that's a lot of virgins ... 72 times 463 ... carry the 7, times the square root of 11, two toes, ...
But the Indian army reported a spike in militant infiltration last month, when it said it killed dozens of terrorists militants trying to cross the ceasefire line.

Analysts say the violence, which has included high-profile bomb attacks and raids in Srinagar, summer capital of Indian Kashmir, has contradicted past comments by Indian officials that militants were on the back foot and infiltration down.
Dang, a smart analyst ...
“Whatever may be the official spin...the militants have dramatically registered their formidable presence in the state,” columnist Harish Khare wrote in The Hindu newspaper. “If the last few weeks are any indication, the security forces are barely able to contain the militants.”
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You know, hadn't considered the use of J-Stars in India, but maybe 1 could be loaned on approval.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:26 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Islamic Jihad declares halt to rocket attacks as Israel prepares to leave Gaza
A major Palestinian militant group declared on Wednesday that it would fire no more rockets at Israelis through Israel's planned withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, after a deadly barrage inadvertently killed a 3-year-old Palestinian boy.

The declaration by Islamic Jihad could ease the withdrawal, set to begin in two weeks. Islamic Jihad has been responsible for many attacks on Israeli targets in recent weeks, making the group one of the biggest threats to a smooth pullout. Israel is leaving all 21 settlements in Gaza and four small enclaves in the West Bank. Israel has said it would not pull out under fire and has pledged a harsh response if troops or settlers are attacked. There was no claim of responsibility for the attack Tuesday night, which was aimed at a large gathering of Israelis in the nearby town of Sderot protesting the withdrawal plan. Instead, the rudimentary rockets, which frequently miss their targets, landed on a house in the Palestinian town of Beit Hanoun in northern Gaza. The rockets killed the Palestinian boy and wounded nine other people, including five children. Four are children of a former Palestinian Cabinet minister, Hisham Abdel Razek, a senior official in the ruling Fatah party.

Islamic Jihad issued a statement denying any involvement and calling the attack an "unfortunate incident". It said it had issued orders three days ago to stop firing rockets "to give the chance for a quiet Zionist departure from our beloved Gaza". It was not clear how committed Islamic Jihad was to this latest cease-fire declaration. The group has attacked Israeli targets repeatedly throughout a 6-month-old truce between Israel and the Palestinians, saying it was acting to avenge Israeli violations. It has claimed responsibility for the two suicide bombings carried out during the truce.
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#1  Wonder if there'll be any inhouse payback for these retard's screwup?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 8:37 Comments || Top||

#2  How would we differentiate that particular signal from the background noise over there, tu3031?
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:03 Comments || Top||

#3  One Point for trailing wife...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Dang....just when the "work accidents" were going up. Ah well, may the Darwin Award be handed over now?
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 10:49 Comments || Top||

#5  This does not mean alot...

The Islamofartz are just regrouping. I Think Maasad knows what's going on really, and are prepared for nasty s**t coming down soon...
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 12:45 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
South Africa to bail out Zimbabwe
South Africa's cabinet has agreed in principle to provide financial assistance to neighbouring Zimbabwe. A government spokesman said on Wednesday a loan would allow Zimbabwe to resume IMF payments and prevent their expulsion from the body. But he dismissed reports the credit could be $1 billion, saying it "could even be as low as one-tenth of that".

Last week, Mr Mugabe visited China seeking financial assistance but he did not obtain the help he had hoped for. South African newspapers reported that Mr Mugabe was only granted $6m for grain imports by Beijing.
Chinese figured out he was a loser.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm sure that loan will have a Double A rating.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 0:07 Comments || Top||

#2  This is kinda like two drunks on a Friday night trying to help each other to stagger home because they can't afford a cab.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:09 Comments || Top||

#3  :> Tu
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 13:37 Comments || Top||

#4  And after SA implements the Zim style land reforms just who the fuck is gonna bail them out.
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 08/04/2005 14:19 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Yemeni perps detainees 'deprived of daylight'
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico -- Two Yemeni men say they were held in solitary confinement in secret, underground U.S. detention facilities in an unknown country and interrogated by masked men for more than 18 months without being charged or allowed any contact with the outside world, Amnesty International charged Wednesday.

Amnesty and human rights lawyers argued that the report added to long-standing claims that the United States has held "secret detainees" in its war on terror. "We fear that what we have heard from these two men is just one small part of the much broader picture of U.S. secret detentions around the world," said Sharon Critoph, a researcher at Amnesty International who interviewed the men in Yemen.
"I mean, what did they do to warrant such treatment? Well okay, besides all that?"
Navy Lt. Commander Flex Plexico, noting that it was difficult to respond to a report he hasn't seen said, "We have said many times that the Department of Defense does not engage in the practice of renditions." Plexico, a spokesman for the department, said it was important to note that training manuals of al Qaida terrorist network "emphasize the tactic of making false abuse allegations."
AI clearly isn't aware of that, now are they ...
U.S. officials have denied allegations of secret detention facilities, saying they hold terror suspects only at the U.S. Naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And other places Dan Darling knows about but I don't ...
In June, U.S. officials denied a suggestion from the U.N.'s special expert on torture, Manfred Nowak, that some undeclared holding areas could include American ships cruising international waters. Others have suggested "high-value" detainees could be held secretly in Diego Garcia, a British-held island in the Indian Ocean that the United States rents as a strategic military base.

Lawyers who represent detainees at Guantanamo have long believed that the CIA or other U.S. government agencies have used clandestine jails for terror suspects. "The fact that there are underground CIA facilities somewhere where people are being tortured has been known for a while," said Michael Ratner of the U.S. Center for Constitutional Rights in New York City.

Amnesty said it interviewed Salah Nasser Salim Ali and Muhammad Faraj Ahmed Bashmilah in a jail in Yemen in late June. The group also spoke to a Yemeni government official who said the men were being held in that country only because it was a condition of their release from U.S. custody.
And that they're crazed killers ...
Ali told the rights group that he was originally detained in Indonesia in August 2003 and then flown several days later to Jordan; Bashmilah said he was detained in Jordan in October 2003 while on a trip to visit his mother. Both men claimed they were tortured by Jordanian intelligence agents for four days and then flown to what they believe were underground jails in an unknown location.

Once there, they were held in solitary confinement for more than 18 months, interrogated daily by U.S. guards and blared Western music all day and night. No charges were ever filed against them, they said. The men said their first jail was underground, surrounded by high walls and that it took more than 4 hours to fly there from Jordan. After six to eight months they were transferred to a modern prison run by U.S. officials a three-hour plane journey away that also appeared to be underground.
"Good news, boys! We're transferring you to a Yemeni prison!"
"Um, can we stay here? We like the dark. Really!"
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [13 views] Top|| File under:

#1  hey better than getting your head cut off.

"..important to note that training manuals of al Qaida terrorist network "emphasize the tactic of making false abuse allegations."

what part of this don't they get.
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 0:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Must be Pledge Time again for AI. They're worse than PBS...
Posted by: PBMcL || 08/04/2005 0:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Jumpin' Yemeni
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 6:56 Comments || Top||

#4  ...held in solitary confinement in secret, underground U.S. detention facilities in an unknown country and interrogated by masked men for more than 18 months.

Yeah, that sounds like it'll be easy to prove. But AI eats it up as gospel...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 8:50 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm wondering...what if they were "flown" in a circle back to Jordan and it was Jordanians who were interrogating and holding them underneath Amman? What about that, AI? Yeesh, believing these goons (who have WRITTEN tactics of lying and crying "abuse, abuse")...AI = sad!
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 10:07 Comments || Top||

#6  AI clearly isn't aware of that, now are they ...

Who the hell do you think told them to put it in their training manuals?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 10:12 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Annan reiterates call for calm following Garang's death
UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan reiterated appeals for calm and called on all Sudanese to refrain from actions which may lead to tension during this time of mourning. Annan is concerned about the reports of continuing violence in Khartoum and elsewhere in Sudan following the recent tragic death of Dr. John Garang de Mabior, said his spokesman. While all available information suggests that the helicopter crash was a tragic accident, the United Nations system stands ready to assist the authorities concerned in an investigation conducted in accordance with internationally established standards and practices, he said.
Posted by: Fred || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  United Nations system stands ready to assist the authorities concerned in an investigation conducted in accordance with internationally established standards and practices

hahahaha those idiots crack me up.
Proper translation: searching for 5 star hotels, gratis cocktails and whores.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 08/04/2005 9:37 Comments || Top||

#2  uh oh kofi spoke we better go to bed and be quiet now
Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 || 08/04/2005 10:07 Comments || Top||

#3  If only the Sea Base Concept included a 5 Star Resturant, we could hurry a UN Task Force to the Coast and confer on the spot.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 12:55 Comments || Top||

#4  How come Kofi never flies around in those old shitbox Russian choppers when he's out visiting the great unwashed?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 12:57 Comments || Top||

#5  He's attended too many funerals of people who did.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 13:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Pic from Animal House?

"Remain calm! All is well!"
Posted by: mojo || 08/04/2005 14:15 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Ahmadinejad receives religious approval to take office
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Iraq-Jordan
Joint Commission for Conditions-Based Transition Holds First Meeting
The joint commission for conditions-based transition held its initial meeting Aug. 2. The commission will establish the conditions for gradual transition of security responsibility to the Iraqi security forces. Membership of the joint commission includes Iraq’s Minister of the Interior, Minister of Defense and the National Security Advisor, the U.S. Ambassador, the U.K. Ambassador, the Commander of Multi-National Force-Iraq and the Deputy Commanding General.

The first meeting resulted in agreement on the way ahead for the commission. Members agreed to the following guidelines in developing the strategy:
The key consideration is the capability of Iraqi security forces.

In addition to the capabilities of the Iraqi security forces, other considerations will include the capacity of local governments to exercise civil authority and provide basic services, as well as the level of the insurgent threat.

Transition of security will not be based on rigid timelines.

Transition will be gradual to ensure continued success of Iraqi governance and security forces.

The transition of security to Iraqi security forces and the reduced presence of Coalition Forces will be visible to the Iraqi people.

A working group was chartered to meet twice weekly to assist in the process. The commission will meet every other week to finalize the conditions and criteria for the conditions-based transition. The commission will report back to the Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Ja’fari with their recommendations by September 26th 2005.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [18 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, they are under the command of Corps of Radical
Assingment Protocol.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  My eyes actually crossed, reading that.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 9:01 Comments || Top||

#3  It's an art to be able to write that way, TW. Takes years of bureaucratic practice.

But what it says is: a) we will leave in the forseeable future: Iraq belongs to the Iraqis. b) we won't leave prematurely and c) both we and the Iraqi authorities will jointly figure out when / how much is right.

The phrase "and provide basic services" is a key element here. It implies a functioning country.
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 19:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Thank you, pack leader. I fancy myself reasonably intelligent, but I can't fathom legal documents, financial stuff, and now mil-speak. But now that you've translated, and my eyes have uncrossed, I like what the Commission decided. A functioning Iraq is key... and they can always ask us to stay on later, in an advisory capacity or some such thing, right?
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 22:49 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Briton held over 452 fake passports
A Briton was arrested at Bangkok airport yesterday with 452 fake blank European passports in his luggage, as he prepared to board a plane to return to the UK.
Ian? Alistair? Susan?
Mahieddine Daikh, an Algerian who became a naturalised Briton two years ago, will probably escape punishment unless there is a formal complaint in the next few days from the government of one of the countries affected, Thai and British authorities told the Guardian yesterday.
Hokay, Bulldog and JFM, get out your pencils ...
Mr Daikh was caught at 1am while in transit from the southern Thai island of Koh Samui to Amsterdam, from where he was scheduled to fly to Glasgow. Officials found about 200 forged passports from France, Belgium, Spain and Portugal in his hand luggage and 250 fakes from the same countries in his checked-in bags, according to an immigration chief, General Suwat Thamrongsisakul. "There were 452 altogether," he said. "He told us he bought the passports from a Pakistani man for £3,000 in Koh Samui and that he would be paid £15,000 when he delivered them to his contact in London. Of course he can't remember the name of the Pakistani."
That would be too much to expect ...
Bet he can't remember the name of his contact in London, either...
A British embassy official who examined the passports was very impressed with their quality, according to Gen Suwat. "He had to look at them very carefully before being certain they were fake," he said. "'Excellent job' is what he told my officers."
Well yeah, the Pakistani fakes are always the best ...
Mr Daikh is currently being held in an immigration detention centre but he could be free by the weekend, because there appears to be no terrorism link to the case.
No, no, certainly not!
"We will not prosecute him unless one of the embassies [of the countries whose passports were forged] files a formal complaint," Gen Suwat said. "We will probably give them a couple of days to do that.
Maybe they should set one of those 2nd deputy undersecretaries to working something up, if he can find the time...
"If they do not, we will revoke his visa and return him [to Britain]." It was unclear last night if any of the countries involved intended to press charges. A Foreign Office spokeswoman admitted Mr Daikh would not be arrested on his return to the UK. "He could not be prosecuted in Britain for this offence," she said. When asked if he would therefore be free, she replied: "That's what is likely to happen."
Here's another problem to fix, Tony ...
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Unless they bugged his cellphone and will follow him to see where he goes and who he talks to. And check to see if it is against EU regulations for a citizen to wander around with hundreds of passports -- real or fake.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 2:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Possession of 200 forged passports is not a crime? ah, yes, Thailand, where fake luxury watches cost more than fake IDs.

On the other hand, I'm not so sure about fake-passport tolerance in the Western world.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 08/04/2005 4:42 Comments || Top||

#3  JEEZ!!! WHAT IS IT WITH THESE GUYS!

Do they become naturalized and THEN get all jihad-ed? Or did they get religion first?
Posted by: PlanetDan || 08/04/2005 6:51 Comments || Top||

#4  I imagine if he'd had a couple of hundred fake Thai passports, they'd be a little more concerned.
Posted by: mojo || 08/04/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Damn deceitful Amish traitors ... oops ... you mean to tell me the "Good Lad" was a muzzie from Algeria?!
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 12:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Koh Samui? What idiot buys forged passports from Pakistanis in Koh Samui? Every knows you should go down to Penang, Malaysia, and just look for that guy with a mustache who hangs out behind.... ah nevermind!
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 08/04/2005 13:45 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Sudanese clash for third day after Garang death
At least 20 people were reported killed overnight in the Sudanese capital as clashes between northerners and southerners extended to a third day on Wednesday after the death of former southern rebel leader John Garang. Violence in Khartoum erupted on Monday when angry southerners took to the streets after the official announcement of the death in a helicopter crash of Garang, who fought the northern government for two decades before making peace. "There are quite a number of casualties and it's quite serious," U.N. spokeswoman Radhia Achouri told Reuters. Some southerners fear the absence of Garang, who was made Sudan's first vice president last month, could weaken their hand in governing Africa's largest country.
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Afghanistan/South Asia
Bhopal announces cash reward for catching cows
NEW DELHI - Cowed down by a cattle menace, Bhopal’s city government is hoping to turn city residents into cowherds, by announcing cash awards for catching stray cattle, local media reported on Wednesday.
Like coals to Newcastle ...
The municipal corporation of central Madhya Pradesh state capital Bhopal, plans to give a cash award of 50 rupees (1.15 dollars) for every stray cow a person catches, the IANS news agency reported. The understaffed corporation was at its wits end on how to catch the 1,000 cows on the roads of Bhopal. It already has to deal with 1,000 cows already captured in its sheds.
I could make a suggestion but I suppose I'd be considered insensitive ...
”We have stray animal-catching squads but they are proving inadequate. So we have decided to take the help of people,” a senior corporation official told the newsagency, adding that the plan has been forwarded to the mayor for approval. He said the personnel of other departments are reluctant to catch the animals because it is dangerous and they do not get any extra money for the job.
Ohfergawdsake! They're cows! Even I have successfully roped a cow. I mean, it can't be hard. Criminy.
Cows, a revered animal for the country’s Hindus, are an urban nuisance in several Indian cities because of the large number of unlicensed dairies and illegal cow sheds. The cattle impede traffic flow and cause many accidents on the city’s roads.
Hokay, you guys, you get this big semi-truck, see, and you put a 'cowcatcher' on the front, see, and ...
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#2  Eet mor chikin
Posted by: Chris W. || 08/04/2005 11:27 Comments || Top||

#3  remember the happy cows come from California
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 11:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Bhopal? Call Union Carbide and have them open a valve at the plant. You'll get all the cows at once and there'll be no one around to have to pay.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 11:49 Comments || Top||

#5  50 rupees is a too small a payment.

If you figure 50 to 70 dollars/hundred weight on the board of Trade the run it a bit lower for grass-fed.

Its still a few hundred dollars ....
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 12:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Cows, a revered animal for the country’s Hindus, are an urban nuisance in several Indian cities because of the large number of unlicensed dairies and illegal cow sheds. The cattle impede traffic flow and cause many accidents on the city’s roads.

Some Hindus believe that a person can reincarnate as a cow... You can milk Uncle Raj, but you can't eat him...

This is a dielemma...
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 13:32 Comments || Top||

#7  The owners of these gals (and they do have owners) are gonna be pissed off. Thisn a variation of the open range, the gals produce shit for everybody and a little milk for the owner. It's a weird system, and outdated, but it works in rural India.
Posted by: Alabama || 08/04/2005 13:33 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Kuwaiti emir recuperates in Switzerland after medical treatment
The emir of Kuwait, Sheik Jaber Al Ahmed Al Sabah, is recuperating in Switzerland after medical treatment in the United States, state television reported Wednesday. The prime minister, Sheik Sabah Al Ahmed Al Sabah, left Kuwait Wednesday to visit the emir, his half brother, in Switzerland, the TV reported. Sheik Sabah had said on the weekend that the emir was well and was going to Switzerland for convalescence. Sheik Jaber, 79, arrived in Zurich, Switzerland, on Monday. He had spent more than two months in the United States where he was operated on late May for a dilated blood vessel in his left leg. The emir suffered a brain hemorrhage in 2001. He has made few public appearances in recent years. Whenever he did appear, he spoke with difficulty and relied on support from his aides.
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#1  No hospital's in Kuwait? I've always noticed these guys never have a problem going under the Infidel knife. In fact, it seems to be just the opposite. I wonder if that pisses off Mo?
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:25 Comments || Top||

#2  spent more than two months in the United States where he was operated on late May for a dilated blood vessel in his left leg.

Yikes! I sure has hell missed that little info.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 12:58 Comments || Top||

#3  ... pent more than two months in the United States where he was operated on late May for a dilated blood vessel in his left leg.

I'm guessing he isn't prime protoplasm.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 18:46 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Safehouse Destroyed; 10 Terrorists Detained
Coalition forces conducted a raid in western Ramadi early Aug. 3 resulting in the capture of 10 suspected terrorists.

Upon arrival at the intended target, a local Iraqi citizen confirmed the building was being used as a terrorist safehouse.
Thank you, Ahmed Q. Citizen.
When forces approached the building several suspected terrorists fled throughout the surrounding area. Six suspected terrorists were immediately detained and four were captured after they hid inside a nearby Mosque. Iraqi citizens assisted the Coalition forces by pointing out the hiding place of the four suspects.

Prior to the raid, a male who lived in the safehouse came outside and told Coalition forces that terrorists were storing explosives inside where his two small children remained. Coalition forces immediately rescued the children and escorted them away from the building. The children were safely reunited to their family.

The building was then destroyed by attack helicopters. Secondary explosions were seen. Additionally, improvised explosive device materials and weapons were found in the safehouse during the post-strike search. The 10 suspected terrorists are currently detained for further questioning.
It must be extraordinarily hard to be a soldier surrounded by people desperate for your help. It's less fighting the bad guys than saving people's lives.
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#1  Pain...inflict great pain.
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International-UN-NGOs
U.S. and China Unite to Block G4 Plan
UNITED NATIONS (AP) - The United States and China have agreed to work together to block a plan to expand the powerful U.N. Security Council, China's U.N. ambassador said Wednesday.

Ambassador Wang Guangya said he reached the agreement with John Bolton during a meeting Tuesday, which was the new U.S. ambassador's first full day in his new post, because both believe the proposal by Brazil, Germany, India and Japan would divide the U.N.'s 191 member states.
Wouldn't want to disrupt the peace and unity that exists now ...
Washington and Beijing are already on record as opposing the so-called Group of Four resolution for different reasons, but the agreement would mark a new joint effort to prevent its approval by the U.N. General Assembly, which requires a two-thirds ``yes'' vote.

Wang and Bolton, who have known each other for about 15 years, met again Wednesday outside the office of General Assembly President Jean Ping, part of a round of courtesy calls the U.S. envoy is making to Security Council members and senior U.N. officials. ``There's a lot of important work,'' Bolton said. ``It's a very busy schedule in the first couple of days, and I think it's been productive and I'm certainly enjoying myself.''
He said with a Darth Vader laugh ...
Wang said the ultimate objective of China and the United States is to expand the Security Council with a formula that is not divisive. ``But at this stage, I think our objective will be to oppose the G-4, to make sure they do not have sufficient votes to take the risk to divide the house,'' he said.

``We agreed to work together to make sure that our interests are being maintained - which means that we have to work in parallel ways to see that the unity of the U.N. members, the unity of every regional group, will not be spoiled because of this maneuver and process,'' Wang said. But he said Washington and Beijing will be working in parallel in the coming weeks to block the resolution - not together - because ``we have different friends in different parts of the world.''
True 'nuff, our friends are the democracies, and theirs ...
The U.S.-China effort to defeat the Group of Four comes on the eve of Thursday's emergency summit called by the African Union to consider whether to approve a compromise agreement which some of its ministers reached with Brazil, Germany, India and Japan in London on July 25.

Brazil, Germany, India and Japan have introduced a resolution calling for a 25-member council that would add six permanent seats without a veto and four nonpermanent seats. They are hoping to win four of the permanent seats with the other two earmarked for Africa. South Africa, Nigeria and Egypt are the leading African contenders. The African Union has proposed expanding the council to 26 members - adding six permanent seats with veto power and five non-permanent seats. A third resolution by a group called Uniting for Consensus would add 10 non-permanent seats.
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#1  Most odd, the US and China both agreeing on this matter; where we all know, when the eventual 'Tag' starts between the US and The Chinese...everyone else will be forced to decide which "side" to join! This is nothing but subdefuge which will work itself out when the shooting starts!!
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#2  A compromise move would be to make the rotating seats limited to these countries and not the vast number of other kleptocracies who suck resources rather than provide them [that is beyond corrupt UN bureaucrats].
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 2:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Pigs will fly before anyplace in Africa deserves a seat on the Security Council. There isn't one decently run country on the whole damned continent. Even South Africa is in a slow-motion collapse. Africans should be grateful the UN even lets their hellholes have membership in the General Assembly.
Posted by: mac || 08/04/2005 4:21 Comments || Top||

#4  You said it mac!! I agree.
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 5:21 Comments || Top||

#5  smn, when you upgrade your foil chapeau, be sure the aluminum meets all EU standards for anti-alien-mind-control beam reflection.

(also be sure you use enough !!!s - otherwise the CIA might tap into this with their telepathic clones of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney)
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 7:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Refer to above-mentioned post on premature female ejaculation
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