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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Iranian exchange student gets 18 days for sexual assault in elevator
Pic of perp at link.
Farhood Azarsina will have some time on his hands to think about how his sexual assault on a woman in an elevator at Memorial University affected the victim, and was outright wrong. Azarsina, a 25-year-old Iranian native, will spend 18 days in prison for hugging a woman he had never met and kissing her on the top of her breast while the two were on an elevator in MUN’s University Centre Sept. 27, 2007.
In Iran, which one of them would have gone to jail?
Provincial court judge David Orr sentenced Azarsina to two months in prison but, as is customary in the court system, gave him credit of three weeks for time he had spent in custody after being arrested and waiting for bail conditions to be met. When handing down sentence today, Orr said, "(Azarsina) failed to appreciate the full seriousness of the offence. He failed to understand the full effect on the victim, except at a superficial level."
That's because in his culture, he's the victim in this case.
Azarsina was also placed on probation for one year with conditions that include to have no contact with the victim, provide a DNA sample to police, and keep the peace and be of good behaviour. Orr also said Memorial University will have to take whatever steps it feels necessary in the matter. Azarsina is a PhD student in engineering at MUN and has been banned from the campus since the incident. Azarsina pleaded guilty to the sexual assault and, during the sentencing hearing last week, said he acted on impulse and didn't realize the seriousness of the offence until after he was arrested.
Yup. Just like I called it.
In reading her victim impact statement during the hearing, the victim described how the incident had negatively impacted her life. "It wasn't supposed to be a day I should remember. Instead, it was a day I'll never forget," the 20-year-old said, noting it had turned her into a fearful person who is unable to sleep and doesn’t feel safe anymore.
Posted by: gromky || 02/12/2008 07:48 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Since he looks like God's gift to wimmen, as most Iranian guys think they are, it was obviously the FILTHY INFIDEL TEMPTRESS'S FAULT!!!
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/12/2008 9:46 Comments || Top||

#2  He should be beaten then deported.
Posted by: Excalibur || 02/12/2008 10:09 Comments || Top||

#3  no deportation until the fathe ris told as too where he is staying. beats the hell out of him and then he can go
Posted by: sinse || 02/12/2008 10:46 Comments || Top||

#4  A PhD. candidate still thinks if it isn't bagged, it's raw meat that's available. Hmmmmm. And, who is on his review committee ? More Al-Arians ??
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter 2907 || 02/12/2008 11:19 Comments || Top||

#5  This is why 20 year old girls should make a point of having plenty of friends -- football players or ROTC, optional.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/12/2008 13:06 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm surprised the university hasn't scheduled the girl for mandatory multicultural awareness training. Her reaction to the young man's quaint cultural customs was very insensitive.

/3000 REMs of sarcasm
Posted by: M. Murcek || 02/12/2008 13:31 Comments || Top||

#7  The koran says: stone him. Muslims believe that women are property, and violation of sexual exclusivity is a capital offense.

Reminder: the koran is the only "sacred" (cough) text of any religion that contains a section of "divison of the spoils of jihad" (an-Fal). When their self-proclaimed "prophet" failed in persuading his Bedouin co-socials to accept his credentials, he made armed robbery and plunder sacred. Respect for Muslims is another form of surrender; they belong back in the desert from where their perverse founder came.
Posted by: Captain Ebbuth9710 || 02/12/2008 16:12 Comments || Top||


US Marine accused of rape in Japan
A U.S. Marine accused of raping a 14-year-old girl in southern Japan was arrested Monday, police said, stirring memories of a rape of a Japanese girl by U.S. troops over a decade ago.

Police took custody of Staff Sgt. Tyrone Luther Hadnott, 38, of Camp Courtney in Okinawa, an Okinawa police official said on condition of anonymity citing policy. Hadnott, who has denied the allegations, has not been charged.

Under a mutual security pact, the United States has about 50,000 troops deployed around Japan. Most of them are based on Okinawa and tensions over potential accidents, land use and troop-related crimes are common.

In 1995, the rape of a schoolgirl in Okinawa by three American servicemen sparked large-scale protests. The three served prison terms of six and a half to seven years.

"This is extremely regrettable," said Japanese Foreign Minister Masahiko Komura of Monday's arrest. Komura said the government asked Washington to tighten discipline among its troop based in Japan to prevent such crimes in the future. Tokyo has made similar requests in the past. ...
Posted by: ed || 02/12/2008 07:21 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lemme guess - black guy. The Japanese press always makes a huge deal out of the fact that it's always a black rapist, while the US press carefully avoids any mention of race while stressing the military connection.
Posted by: gromky || 02/12/2008 7:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Here's my hybrid solution:

If a military trial says he's not guilty, share the evidence with the Japanese authorities and depending on the circumstances maybe get him outta there so someone doesn't go all vigilante on him and maybe makes the doubters feel better that at least the guy is removed from their society.

If the military trial says he's guilty, then have him tried in a Japanese criminal court who can propose a punishment. If the punishment isn't overly severe, let the guy serve the Japanese punishment in a Japanese prison. Or maybe an American one if it would work better. If the punishment is overly severe, then he serves the American punishment in an American facility.

And here's my advice for the Japanese protestors for this kind of situation:

Stop cutting into your credibility with the mass protests already. This is a criminal act committed by an individual against another individual, not a criminal act committed by a state against an individual. For example, inhumane treatment of POWs would be an example of something for which you could legitimately condemn the military force and/or government of a nation. Or maybe biological experiments on civilians of another nation.

The US military is there to try to help you no matter what your society's moonbats would have you believe. If Japan doesn't have any criminals in its society, please feel free to consider throwing the first stone. But keep in mind that even if by some miracle there are no criminals in Japan or its military today or in the past, that first stone will come back to hit you on the day that first criminal shows up.
Posted by: gorb || 02/12/2008 8:27 Comments || Top||

#3  #1 Lemme guess - black guy. The Japanese press always makes a huge deal out of the fact that it's always a black rapist, while the US press carefully avoids any mention of race while stressing the military connection.
Posted by gromky 2008-02-12 07:53|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top

Which through obvious omission, signals minority involvement.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/12/2008 8:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Yep, the Okinawans get irate when something like this happens. And in the past the perps were usually a black/minority guy/guys which really pisses off the locals. He will be tried in a Japanese court before Japanese judges. If convicted he will serve his time in an Okinawan prison. There will be formal apologies from the commanding general and ambassador and monetary fines.

Thanks Sgt. Dumbass for undoing 10 years of US-Japanese relationship building.
Posted by: ed || 02/12/2008 8:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Any figures on the number of rapes of native on native for the last 10 years? Yeah, I know its the usual Japanese appeal to racism amongst their culture that's gotten the attention. Maybe its time to point it out while making sure justice is carried by either military or civil authorities.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/12/2008 9:30 Comments || Top||

#6  I remember the uproar about the rape of the little girl in 1995, lefties rioting in the streets, most of hte island off-limits, shocking racism in the Japanese media. And after all that, the "stern and just" Japanese court sentenced the beasts to just 6 years apiece.
The howling protestors would have been much, much better off letting these animals be tried in their native country and sent away for decades.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 02/12/2008 9:44 Comments || Top||

#7  This is the reason for the relocation to Guam. Over the years, the locals have had enough. Joe M., are you ready there ? Guam is a pretty small island. I note there is local concern there already.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter 2907 || 02/12/2008 11:29 Comments || Top||

#8  The local Govt. and Chamber of Commerce have a lot at stake with the proposed buildup - It will be a DISASTER for Guam iff the buildup does NOT occur, is delayed too long, andor iff the buildup is NOT as big as expected [US-Japan-Region politics]. Most recently, the Japanese want to delay the Marines transfer to as late as 2018 or beyond, which will all but destroy Guam's business sectors and by extens GovGuam itself.

Truth is, despite any GovGuam rhetoric to the contrary Guam is the midst of a lingering STAGCESSION = DEPRESSION. Federal spending is way down or unreliable due to the 1990's BRACS now the WOT, while Japn-Asian investment is also going down and will be for a long while - many Japanese investors want to leave or refocii on China-mainland Asia. Many US-Asian investors will do so only iff GovGuam gives them $$$, other suppor which GovGuam can't do now due to on-going Fed Reduxes. At the same time, many local Guam pols and activists want to play Waffling, PC politix-as-usual = politix of ambiguity wid various impor issues of self-determination and indigenous rights, and won't take any sort of public stand on STATEHOOD VERSUS FULL INDEPENDENCE, ETC. WHICH DOESN'T HELP GUAM IN WOT/DUBYA-ERA WASHINGTON BUDGET BATTLES - ALL OF THE ABOVE AGAIN ADDS TO GUAM's ALREADY SERIOUS PROBS WID GOVGUAM ALSO MOVING TOWARDS GREATER VARIABLE LOCAL "PRIVATIZATION" SCHEMES.

To again add to the above, GUAM INCLUD CNMI, WESTPAC, CENTPAC IS IN THE CROSS-HAIRS OF CHINA, RUSSIA, and now RADICAL ISLAM, BOTH AS ANTI-US MILITARY TARGET AND AS DESIRED FUTURE NON-US TERRITORY.

CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE OF AGANA CHIURCH ONE DAY BE AN ASIAN TEMPLE, OR A MUSLIM MOSQUE, IN THE OWG AMER PACIFIC = FORMER AMERICAN GLOBAL SSR/USR LAKE KNOWN AS THE PACIFIC, NOW THE GREATER CHINA SEA, ETC.??? Lest we fergit, CHINA desires ALL OF THE PACIFIC + 1/2 OR MORE OF CONUS-NORAM FOR CHICOM-SPECIFIC, CHICOM-CONTROLLED/
CENTRIC "LIVING SPACE".

*YEAR 2008 > YEAR OF DECISION-RECKONING, FOR USA, USA's ENEMIES, RADICAL ISLAM, WORLD, FUTURE OWG-NWO, FAV -ISMS, and for GUAM.

FOR GOD???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/12/2008 19:42 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Politics rooted in genetics?
For years, political scientists assumed our political leanings came from the way we were raised and the company we keep. You're a screaming liberal? Must be because you were raised in a household full of screaming liberals. You're an arch conservative? Must be because of that college you went to.

But slowly, some political scientists are beginning to change their minds on what shapes our political views. They're starting to wonder whether some of our political identity is rooted in our DNA.

The theory goes something like this: Choosing a political point of view involves thinking through issues: Will more lax immigration rules put the U.S. at risk? Will tighter gun-control laws help lower the murder rate?
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Posted by: gorb || 02/12/2008 05:27 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Because if we're all programmed by our dna then there is no human free will thus democracy is not possible. Just another attempt by 'them' to rationalize their abandonment of the concept of rule by the people. The problem for them is, they assume, they're the ones who'll be 'left' in charge.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/12/2008 7:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Nah P2K, you are completely wrong here.

I recall the Nature/Nuture debates of the 1970s. In fact I participated in a bonafide riot on the subject. Even though I knew the Nuturish argument was utter bollocks, throwing rocks at cops proved to be more fun.

"We don't have free will, but we have to act as if we do."

Quoting myself.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/12/2008 9:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Hmmmm...perhaps this means that my father in law can be cured if we kill off enough babies
Posted by: Kelly || 02/12/2008 9:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Kelly, I presume missing /s tag.

Even then, I still not get it. What connects the ... F/[k! There are not even dots to connect!
Posted by: twobyfour || 02/12/2008 13:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Some people think problems through logically (republicans and libertarians) and others think emotionally (democrats and greens). This is a vast generalization but tends to be true in my experiences. It explains why more youths and women tend democrat and stodgy Anglo-American men trend republican.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/12/2008 14:15 Comments || Top||

#6  Just wait till parents start wanting to bioengineer their kids' voting preferences.
Posted by: JSU || 02/12/2008 14:22 Comments || Top||

#7  It's not genetic. People switch all the time.

The left/right different tracks the male/female difference quite nicely. That is not to say that women are liberal and men are conservative. This is about traits, not gender.
Posted by: Iblis || 02/12/2008 16:18 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Prince Alwaleed throwing major cash for personal A380
"Prince Al-Waleed's order means that Airbus' sales success in the corporate jet market now extends from its smallest aircraft, the A318 Elite, all the way up to its largest, the A380 Flying Palace," said John Leahy, Airbus chief operating officer for customers.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The plane will be ready in two years. Until is it finished the prince, who counts the Savoy Hotel in London among his many assets, will have to get around the world in his run-of-the-mill private 747 Jumbo.

Just make sure to throw it in the recycling bin when you are done with it.
Posted by: gorb || 02/12/2008 5:45 Comments || Top||

#2  But...but.....what about CO2 emissions and global warming? What about disproportionate use of natural resources? What about.....why are all those crickets chirping?????
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/12/2008 10:37 Comments || Top||


Britain
'My fire crew was punched and beaten'
Same as in France; I wonder it's it's a common chav/lad/droog thing, or a Youth™ thing like here?
Firefighters are facing a daily threat of being ambushed, shot at, stabbed and abused, according to the Fire Brigades Union, and the number of such attacks in England and Wales are on the up.

Watch manager John Cartwright says in his 19-year firefighting career, he has been on the receiving end of violence and abuse too many times to mention. "It does happen a lot. I've been spat at, had stones thrown at me, verbal abuse and once had a vodka bottle chucked at me," he said.

The worst of these attacks was several years ago when he was called out to a large bonfire in Greater Manchester on Good Friday. "A group of about 30 teenagers had built a fire, taking fence panels from people's gardens. It was somewhere for them to sit and drink alcohol on a bank holiday.

"They had obviously been drinking, there were cans and bottles around and even young children, some as young as 12, were running through the fire.

"We decided to extinguish the fire for their own safety, but as the last elements went out they started the attack. About six youths jumped on top of one of the firefighters, and were punching him. We pulled them off and retreated slowly."

But the youngsters had started throwing missiles at the fire engines and heavy stones and garden ornaments at us, he said. "It was scary in the fact that it was bricks and bottles being thrown and it was unrelenting," he said.

One firefighter was hit in the back, and another was struck by a large wine bottle on the elbow. But, unable to board their fire engine, the crew held out until the police arrived when the sight of a police van sent the youngsters running.

Most escaped but three were caught - one was given an Asbo and the other two detained for six months, Mr Cartwright said.

Had the incident put him or his colleagues off the job? "In my personal experience, I don't think it has. It's a part of the job that we do and sometimes it's unpleasant," he said. "I honestly believe in this case the youths were not aware of the consequences."

They would not have realised their actions had meant an engine was taken out of service and attendance times to other fires were reduced, he said. On some calls an extra vehicle will be sent out so one crew can watch the others' backs as they work, he explained.

Mr Cartwright suggested this trend for targeting firefighters took off in 1996 after a major fire at Carpet World in Salford. "It was the first time it hit the news that firefighters had been attacked. That summer it got worse. It seemed to be the most popular thing to do - to call the fire brigade out and attack them.

"I don't understand why, but it became the 'in thing' to do."
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 02/12/2008 08:14 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I don't understand why, but it became the 'in thing' to do."

It's because your society is sick and dying. The bitter fruits of rampant multiculturalism combined with a "all is permitted, nothing is wrong" attitude.
Posted by: gromky || 02/12/2008 8:29 Comments || Top||

#2  It's a part of the job that we do and sometimes it's unpleasant

WTF?! So what isn't part of the job?
Posted by: gorb || 02/12/2008 8:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Solution = Airguard on the fire truck with a Mossberg pump, # 6 shot, and orders to shoot.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/12/2008 8:49 Comments || Top||

#4  ACTUAL Solution = pump more money into the 'hoods, apply affirmative action to make the local city employees more "diverses", tell the firefighter (policemen, EMT crews,...) it's "part of the job", and build sport facilities, libraries, social centers,... which will eventually be torched.

Efficiency, not idleness

fadela amara was to announce her new plan (for the 'hoods), but it's sarkozy who did it after all, while his ministers were left standing looking pretty next to him. As usual, the goal is to be efficient :

THE ANTI-IDLENESS PLAN OF FADELA AMARA : MONIES FOR THE 'HOODS
"We burn the bills directly, rather than buying bus, and burning those bus"


Posted by: anonymous5089 || 02/12/2008 9:35 Comments || Top||

#5  A fully charged 2 1/2 inch hoseline can do a lotta damage. My father's crew had to use it as a weapon a few times back in the bad old days. And it never failed...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/12/2008 9:41 Comments || Top||

#6  Shoot them all. Shoot them every time this happens. The problem is soon resolved one way or the other.

The alternative is chaos.
Posted by: Excalibur || 02/12/2008 10:06 Comments || Top||

#7  tu3031, i was about too say the same thing . hit their asses in the face with the hose i bet they won't be throwing shit nec=xt time, if they are out of the hospital yet
Posted by: sinse || 02/12/2008 10:44 Comments || Top||

#8  ..and fill it with class A foam to give them the stink finger as well. Or an axe and pike charge...
Posted by: swksvolFF || 02/12/2008 10:45 Comments || Top||

#9  The worst of these attacks was several years ago when he was called out to a large bonfire in Greater Manchester on Good Friday.
...

"A group of about 30 teenagers had built a fire, taking fence panels from people's gardens. It was somewhere for them to sit and drink alcohol on a bank holiday.


Good Friday is a BANK holiday? Maybe that's part of the problem.
Posted by: eLarson || 02/12/2008 10:49 Comments || Top||

#10  Fire Axes make wonderful melee weapons.

Just sayin.
Posted by: OldSpook || 02/12/2008 10:52 Comments || Top||

#11  Let their rotted neighborhoods burn. Or, put a 50 cal. on each engine, and use it "sparingly". If used, bring on the pumpers, to clean the streets of all evidence, per Pakkies example. Should work fine.
Posted by: Woozle Elmeter 2907 || 02/12/2008 11:33 Comments || Top||

#12  My father's crew had to use it as a weapon a few times back in the bad old days.

That sounds like an interesting story, tu3031.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/12/2008 12:18 Comments || Top||

#13  If there was every a reason to shoot this is it. If you attack a fireman doing his duty you should be burned alive. This is sick nonsense that threatens everyone.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/12/2008 14:11 Comments || Top||

#14  Oh, it's OK. They just not old enough to know what they're doingTM.

Or whatever else justifies running away from the problem.
Posted by: gorb || 02/12/2008 14:35 Comments || Top||

#15  Calmed down a bit.

Can't just let it burn - those doing this on purpose probably are not doing it in their backyard.

Perhaps a Pro Pack or other quick attachment device infusing dye and a stink agent (antidote at the station for the Fire Fighters) to mark the goons who do this.

Fire Axes, Pikes, Hooligan and other entry tools along with the basic tournout clothing could turn a group into a formidable medieval squad.

BTW, arn't the police supposed to be there first to check out the situation?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 02/12/2008 14:35 Comments || Top||

#16  Haven't you seen UK troops taking molotov coctail hits from protesters and then doing nothing about it? I would blow away any belligerent who held a gas bomb within 50 feet of me.

As for the situation in France (Sweden, Netherlands, Italy, Germany, et al) it is Muslims who enforce "dar-Islam" prohibitions against hated kafirs. I have asked several Muslims to their face: if you hate us, why you go back home where you can hate us from a distance? Reply: the world belongs to Allah, and we are his viceregents. They are like human mosquitos
Posted by: Captain Ebbuth9710 || 02/12/2008 16:18 Comments || Top||

#17  lets put that money that obama wants too put towards global poverty and buy more mosquito netting then?
Posted by: sinse || 02/12/2008 17:53 Comments || Top||

#18  buy more mosquito netting then?

DDT.
Posted by: Glenmore || 02/12/2008 19:15 Comments || Top||

#19  Reply: the world belongs to Allah, and we are his viceregents.

People have actually said that to your face, Captain Ebbuth9710? Where does one meet such people, so I can be sure not to go there?
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/12/2008 19:40 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
'Ladies and gentlemen, the Beatles Obamas!'
Jim Geraghty, National Review

I regularly appear on Jim Vicevich's show up in Hartford, Connecticut, and he's noticed an odd trend at Obama events... women fainting. It's happened in Hartford, Seattle, Los Angeles, Madison...

The Beatles, Elvis... Barack Obama?

Does anyone else have Living Colour's "Cult of Personality" playing in their head right now?

Look into my eyes, what do you see?
Cult of personality
I know your anger, I know your dreams
Ive been everything you want to be
I am the cult of personality
Like Mussolini and Kennedy
I am the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights, a Nobel prize
The mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You dont have to follow me
Only you can set me free
I sell the things you need to be
I'm the smiling face on your TV
I am the cult of personality
I exploit you still you love me
Posted by: Mike || 02/12/2008 10:10 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Barack has a real knack for saying nothing at all.

He made the mistake of wading in policy waters once (recall his willingness to drop The Bomb on Pakistan. Or not. Or yes, yes he wouldn't take it off the table. Or... or...)

He won't make that mistake again.
Posted by: eLarson || 02/12/2008 11:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Actually he said one day he wants to unilaterally disarm the United States and the next day that he wanted to send the troops into Pakistan. I guess to be vaporized, I dunno...
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 02/12/2008 14:20 Comments || Top||

#3  "Cult of Personality" > NOSTRADAMUS' FRANCIS chasing WHITE RABBITS again vv 1960's OLIVER STONE's PLATOON + 1960's TEXAS-SIZED ASTEROIDS???

MELLENCAMP'S 1960's = 1980's "CHERRY BOMB 2000" Video, aka THE OWG GLOBAL TWINS JOIN THE CHEERLEADING SQUAD.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/12/2008 19:59 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Picture: 'Israeli Robot Crushes Suicide Bomber'
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/12/2008 10:25 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Now, that is so wrong :-). Seriously, I hope no one was killed or wounded, as I believe this guy was killed before he could kaboom himself, since he appears intact. Nice pic, an add to to RB stash?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 02/12/2008 10:42 Comments || Top||

#2  ooh. That's gonna leave a mark....
Posted by: Chunky Glineter3425 || 02/12/2008 12:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Now if only the robot could widdle on him...
Posted by: DarthVader || 02/12/2008 17:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Ouch! :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 02/12/2008 18:14 Comments || Top||

#5  Now if only the robot could widdle on him...

Oh that's agin the United Nations Widdle Treaty™ proposed by Boutros Boutros Buy Golly Ghali in 1993. It's attached to the section on Humilation which no one has signed yet.
Posted by: RD || 02/12/2008 21:34 Comments || Top||


Israeli town sues Google Earth for slander
An Israeli town is suing the internet giant Google for slander because a feature of its worldwide map service shows the town was built on the ruins of an Arab village.
Kiryat Yam is a town of 40,000 on the coast just north of Haifa. An entry on Google Earth, a feature that allows users to zero in on locations around the world, alleges that the town was built on the ruins of Ghawarina, an Arab village.

Kiryat Yam was pulled into the dispute – one of the hottest in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict – when a Google Earth user, Thameen Darby, inserted a note on the map saying it was built on the location of Ghawarina. Darby has inserted at least ten such notes over Google's map.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/12/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's either a fact or it's not. If it's not factual it needs to be cleaned up.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 02/12/2008 0:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Ethnic pride I should say. I would imagine that Kiryat Yam was probable settled in any event, on ancient Philistine lands and or townships in antiquity. No matter who homesteaded the area, Jehovah promised it to the Israelites, and saw to it that they got it; and if it's good enough for the Lord, than it's good enough for Google Earth®. Make sure the word 'Allege' is sited, and let the Israel Antiquities Authority iterate the pros and cons of the assumption, and forward that to GE!!
Posted by: smn || 02/12/2008 3:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Jehovah promised it to the Israelites . . .

And the UN mandated it to the Israelites.
Posted by: gorb || 02/12/2008 5:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Jihad has many battlefields. Google, Yahoo and YouTube are just the latest.
Posted by: ed || 02/12/2008 7:07 Comments || Top||

#5  Semites, Philistines, and an assortment of blood lines, but arabs would have been something that didn't show up till the 'Conquests' at the earliest. So, is Google Earth inserting little things like 'ancient ruin of Judea' around the Temple Mount? or do they get a little tight feeling around the neck?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/12/2008 7:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Useful fifth column Idiots: re: Israel Google Earth fakes "stole" Palestinian land
Posted by: Icerigger || 02/12/2008 7:36 Comments || Top||

#7  this guy darby is some kind of obsessive, whos cluttered up the israel part of google earth with his ten thousand or so "pal villages" most of which were probably tiny hamlets AFAICT. Ive been surprised its taken israeli users so long to respond. Its time someone challenged Darby. Hes also a wikipedia warrior as well.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/12/2008 10:53 Comments || Top||

#8  Remarks from a Canadian commenter at the link:

The guy who inserted the note on the Google map locating, Ghawarina, a former Arab village where the Israeli town of Kiryat Yam is, north of Haifa, also has a website in which he also locates Ghawarina south of Haifa, so he seems to be having trouble with the location. He says he was relying on his mother's memory and isn't sure exactly where Ghawarina is located but if a reliable source knows, he'll quickly change the location.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/12/2008 13:29 Comments || Top||

#9  He should check around. I'm sure he'll find about 10,000 Ghawarinas if he does.
Posted by: gorb || 02/12/2008 14:45 Comments || Top||

#10  Gaza had a substantial Jewish population at the time of the Napoleonic invasion - 1799.

And I came across this interesting quote for those of you interested in the historical accuracy of the Bible, from one of Napoleon's officers.

"On the morning of the 28th we crossed the Red Sea dry shod...Near the port the Red Sea is not above 1,500 meters wide, and is always fordable at low water...at high tide the water rises five or six feet at Suez, and when the wind blows fresh it often rises nine or ten feet."
Posted by: phil_b || 02/12/2008 17:27 Comments || Top||



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