[WAYSANDMEANS.HOUSE.GOV] Today, Boodle Central Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) issued the following statement regarding the Internal Revenue Service informing the Committee that they have lost Lois Lerner emails from a period of January 2009 -- April 2011. Due to a supposed computer crash, the agency only has Lerner emails to and from other IRS employees during this time frame. The IRS claims it cannot produce emails written only to or from Lerner and outside agencies or groups, such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices.
What this means, of course, is that the emails were supremely damning...
"The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS's response to Congressional inquiries. There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General.
"Just a short time ago, Commissioner Koskinen promised to produce all Lerner documents. It appears now that was an empty promise. Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies. Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone. This failure of the IRS requires the White House, which promised to get to the bottom of this, to do an Administration-wide search and production of any emails to or from Lois Lerner. The Administration has repeatedly referred us back to the IRS for production of materials. It is clear that is wholly insufficient when it comes to determining the full scope of the violation of taxpayer rights."
Oversight Subcommittee Chairman Charles Boustany Jr., M.D. (R-LA) added, "In the course of the Committee's investigation, the Administration repeatedly claimed we were getting access to all relevant IRS documents. Only now - thirteen months into the investigation - the IRS reveals that key emails from the time of the targeting have been lost. And they bury that fact deep in an unrelated letter on a Friday afternoon. In that same letter, they urge Congress to end the investigations into IRS wrongdoing. This is not the transparency promised to the American people. If there is no smidgeon of corruption what is the Administration hiding?"
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Bart Simpson defense, eh? Sadly, far too many will believe it.
Congress. You sit on your ass 13 months waiting for crooks and jackals to cough up evidence? YOU deserve to never see it. Get off your do nothing butts and make something happen!(?) Yeah, right...
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role over --> roll over. Sometimes my fingers fight my brains and my fingers win. I would still be furious if the so-called Republican Congressional leadership does nothing.
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Email is stored on servers. Servers get 3 stage backup (as your sysadmin). Backups are eventually stored off site - per law they need to be kept 5 years in most cases. This is horse shit. Who is running their backup program, the son of the secretary who put that gap in the Nixon Watergate tape?
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Agree this is bullshit. This is the IRS... They don't just loose backups. Try using that excuse during your audit and see how far you get!
But it gives just enough cover for the RINOs and MSM to run with it which is all they need.
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The IRS official(s) who signed that memo and Commissioner Koskinen should be immediately fired and jailed for obstruction and the next fellow in the IRS chain of command told to produce the memos within 24 hours. If he or she fails, then he or she should be jailed.... and on to the next IRS official until the BULLSHIT stops.
Lawless bastards! OS is correct. Server farms provide back-up, not the individual laptops and desktops. Back-up systems DO NOT decide to keep internal communications, then elect to lose other external communications.
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OS is is correct, but in addition, email headers are always logged separately. That would include the from, to, subject line and the name of any attachments. Very useful in scoping FOI requests and other investigations.
Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) reports IRS Employee pension and savings information missing from FERS computer systems. The retirement and benefit data is reportedly "unrecoverable." FERS advises current and former IRS employees to provide last 5 years of hard copy records to the Veteran's Administration in order that system data can be re-entered manually.
The IRS and FERS are siting obsolete systems, manpower and funding shortfalls as reasons for the data losses.
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The IRS and FERS are siting obsolete systems, manpower and funding shortfalls as reasons for the data losses.
To be fair, those things are true, for the IRS, at least. I feel fortunate in having had no connection whatsoever to the other thus far, so I can't speak to it. On the other hand, the IRS has spent an awful lot of money trying --but not succeeding -- in updating their system over the past decade or more, The shock is that they are able to function in connection with the modern world at all, or so it seems to me in my ignorance.
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Should any of us little people try that shit, we would be jugged.
Instead of working down the line from higher-ups to those next in line to produce the emails, I think they should start working their way up towards the Whitehouse. That is where King Rat and minions are. Subpoena those SOBs. They have gotten a pass for far too long. I'll get excited when I read that impeachment is proceeding for these Chicago thugs.
Like Al Capone, you don't get him for bootlegging, you got him for income tax evasion. Get them for stuff like this. They had money for bonuses and convention/meetings, they had money to comply with the law. That lies with those in the upper echelons, the very place you want to bring pain. The interesting things about coverups is that they become dirtier and messier expanding to even more people and more opportunities for someone to eventually roll over.
Mark Twain - If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything.
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For sure Julian Assange and his WikiLeaks org has a copy. It is believed his organization intercepted practically every government correspondence through 2012. His ticket out of his embassy hideout and if Congress ever gets serious about investigating the IRS by any means necessary.
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Like Al Capone, you don't get him for bootlegging, you got him for income tax evasion. Get them for stuff like this.
Ooooooohhhhh. My inner cat just sharpened her claws, Procopius2k. Git 'er done.
(Please excuse me, I must lie down for a moment. I just discovered I am eating my oatmeal with a sugar spoon, which simply is not done. My inner cat will have to wait until I recover.)
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Besoeker, do you have a link to that FERS failure? I can't google it.
The IRS has a long history of incompetence when it comes to computer systems. That's why it's a travesty that they are involved in the processing and enforcement of Obamacare. It's surprising any of that inter-agency communications worked at all. If it did.
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This is simply not believable. In the facility we had, we backed up every day (before starting the nightly processing). The backup was kept on CD/DVD/cartridge in a separate room from the servers. After a year, the physical media was sent off-site.
Simply stated, a computer crash could not have created this problem. The inbox/"personal folders" of Ms. Lerner are preserved on multiple disks in several locations. They might have to dig for them, but they could be found.
Even if the was a crash, explosion or fire they can be retrieved.
Al
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What gets me about these people is, they know, we know they are lying and they don't care
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What brought Nixon down was obstruction of justice. Lying to avoid a subpoena is obstruction of justice. I will love watching WaPo and NYT dance around this as the knife keeps twisting.
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This is amateur hour in DC. The loss was fabricated for the next part of their excuse. "See its been so long the emails are already gone. This is such old news." I always wondered what everyday Romans were doing while Nero fiddled.
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Nero only fiddled. O and company are going around with flamethrowers.
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This is total bullshit, of course. The first rule your told in any competent IT organization is "Protect the Data". I've worked for banks, financials, biomedicals and it's redundancy upon redundancy. EVERYTHING is backed up, with email as a priority. That's not backed up locally, that's on your network. The backups to the backups are stored off site in case your primary back up site is taken out.
Those emails are someplace. I'd subpoena the IRS IT guys and put the fear of God into them.
Posted by: frozen al ||
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Man, don't be fighting with your 'prompter. Make peace with it, take it too lunch and come to a mutual respekt. Allwuz rememers your 'prompter is your fiend.
[MIAMIHERALD.TYPEPAD] The largest gay-rights groups in Florida and the nation endorsed Democrat Charlie Crist ... Formerly the Republican governor of Florida, now reinvented as a Democrat party hack... on Thursday, a turnaround for the former Republican governor who once helped enshrine a same-sex marriage ban in the state's constitution.
In accepting the support of Equality Florida Action PAC and the Washington-based Human Rights Campaign, Crist pledged to pressure Florida's Republican attorney general, Pam Bondi, to stop fighting a lawsuit seeking to overturn the same-sex marriage ban voters approved in 2008 by 62 percent.
"I think it's important to be able to use the influence of the office of governor in a positive, effective way," Crist said, "and encourage the attorney general, No. 1, to get rid of these lawsuits -- I think it's a waste of time."
"No. 2," Crist said, "there's a bully pulpit that comes with the office of governor. And I think you can appeal to the people of Florida to maybe call the attorney general and ask her to get rid of these lawsuits and let individuals in the state of Florida live their lives and keep your nose out of their private life."
Posted by: Fred ||
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We've got thousands of U.S. personnel potentially trapped in Iraq and domestic news is running stories about a bunch of bumf***ers and their political endorsements? We are so fok'd.
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So much of what goes on in Washington and is reported by the MSM is a circle jerk. If a slow period continues in the news, we will be getting more stories on Bruce Jenner's hair styling or Kim Kardashian's bum.
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"We've got thousands of U.S. personnel potentially trapped in Iraq, blah-blah"
Why is it that anything Americans touch turns in a serious clusterfuck. According to your hero Dick Cheney, I thought the Iraq engagement was supposed to only last three weeks. Lesson learned: never trust right-wing Conservative dipshits.
[BREITBART] Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) provided his latest head-scratching comment in public, this time joking he engaged in illicit activities with animals as a child.
"[We'd] get back [to the Pine Belt-Hattiesburg area of Mississippi] as often as we could because it was fun--it was an adventure to be out there in the country and see what goes on," Cochran said of his childhood and how parts of his family lived in the central part of the state. "Picking up pecans, from that to all kind of indecent things with animals."
The audience laughed at that point, video published by the Jackson Clarion-Ledger shows. Cochran's facial expressions did not change, nor did his stance or demeanor. "I know some of you know what that is," he continued. "The whole point of the story is not just coming here to visit cousins and get to know aunts and uncles better, you absorb the culture and you know what's important to people here. I feel very comfortable here and have an identity with this area of the state that's different than any other."
Cochran made the speech at the Forrest General Hospital in Hattiesburg, an area of the state known as the Pine Belt where his primary challenger, conservative state Sen. Chris McDaniel, massively over performed in last Tuesday's primary.
The Clarion-Ledger's Geoff Pender described Cochran's comment as "a joke, apparently about harassing wildlife or livestock."
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I think the old boy is senile, and his staff and corporate crony puppeteers are trying to trot him out there for one last grab at power. He should have just retired.
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Not exactly a winning message--particularly when taken out of context. Next stop for PETA--Cochran's doorstep.
Voters can impose term limits at the ballot box. Some voters are so uninformed that maybe term limits by law would be a good idea. Term limits would clean out a lot of the political class, office-holders-for-life, deadwood on both sides of the aisle. Of course, it might be like Whack_A-Mole, they might pop up somewhere else in public office.
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