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Oh, you mean there are "abuses" in Sudan? Good golly, when'd you notice that? I didn't think there was anything bad happening there. Certainly not a "genocide." I thought they (the UN) were going to investigate more to determine the extent of the, uh, cultural disagreements.
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Someone really needs to teach these UN wankers some manners. Most civilized people know that it's rather rude to talk when your mouth is full of caviar. These diplomatic parasites should drop all pretense of efficacy and merely line up at the trough buffet table. If we could just keep their mouths full constantly, at least we wouldn't have to hear their imbecilic pronouncements all the time.
Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Fahd yesterday called upon Muslims to promote dialogue with other communities and nations and support efforts to foster mutual understanding and peaceful co-existence among countries, peoples and cultures. In his opening address to the 38th session of the Muslim World League's Constituent Council in Makkah, King Fahd also said that Saudi Arabia would go ahead with its battle against terrorism. He emphasized the right of every nation to defend its rights and adhere to its culture. He said devious interpretation of Islam had led some of its followers to violence against their own nation. He commended MWL's efforts to promote moderate Islamic teachings and bolster Muslim unity.
MWL, of course, promote Wahhabism world-wide...
"The Kingdom has been making relentless efforts to introduce Islam and explain its moderate character," he said, adding that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism.
Terrorism, on the other hand, has everything to do with Islam...
The address, which was read out by Makkah Governor Prince Abdul Majeed, emphasized the need for cooperation and coordination among Islamic organizations to address various Muslim issues and engage in activities that would help restore the Ummah's glory. King Fahd said Saudi Arabia would continue its efforts to support just causes of Muslims all over the world and defend their legitimate rights.
So much for any abatement in attempts to subvert the rest of the world...
He urged Muslim countries to support the Palestinians to establish an independent state with Jerusalem as its capital.
... after all the Jews have been killed.
Referring to Iraq, the king said Saudi Arabia would continue its efforts to restore the national unity of the war-ravaged country and reinforce peace and stability there. Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Asheikh, the grand mufti and chairman of the constituent council, denounced allegations that Saudi Arabia showed enmity toward other religions.
"A mere calumny, put out by Jews and Christians and other polytheists who should be killed..."
"Muslims respect non-Muslims living in the Kingdom and we consider attacking others as a crime. Islam has a distinguished position in the Arabian Peninsula where there is no room for religions other than Islam," the mufti said.
"But we respect other religions. We just don't want 'em here. Or there."
He urged MWL to confront enemy onslaughts on Islam, the Qur'an and the Prophet (peace be upon him) and correct distortions of the divine religion. Maldives President Maamoun Abdul Qayyoom, a member of the constituent council, called for efforts to defeat the dubious plans of Zionists and colonialists to weaken the Islamic nation and control its wealth. "I believe that MWL can play a big role in this respect with the help of scholars and intellectuals attending this conference," he added. Dr. Abdullah Al-Turki, secretary-general of MWL, urged Muslims to close their ranks, concentrate on reforms and comprehensive development and introduce Islam in a way that would remove misunderstandings and attract others to its lofty teachings. He also denounced foreign intervention in the Sudanese region of Darfur as well as the killings and destruction going on in Iraq.
He somehow couldn't bring himself to denounce the slaughter of the Muslim blacks in Darfur...
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Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Fahd yesterday called upon Muslims to promote dialogue with other communities and nations and support efforts to foster mutual understanding and peaceful co-existence among countries, peoples and cultures.
Regardless of whether Fahd is sincere or not, the time for dialogue is long past. Islam has one choice and one choice only. The entire faith as a whole must begin to identify and thrust from their ranks all violent jihadists. Anything less should result in the worldwide banning of Islam and any of its branches.
We are essentially confronted with what will prove to be an endless string of terrorist atrocities. Islam cannot claim to be disconnected from this mayhem. Proof of this is shown by their usually tacit and often overt support of terrorism. Until Islam begins in earnest to cleanse itself of all terror advocates, the remaining world must begin to cleanse itself of Islam.
The very nature of Islam's teachings essentially guarantees a constant and uninterrupted supply of mass murdering terrorists.
The blame for this must be saddled directly upon Islam's shoulders. No excuses about how it is a radical minority or impure faction that perpetrates these atrocities will be accepted. Either reform or see your religion taken apart at the seams.
To date there is ZERO indication that Islam has any intention whatsoever of reforming itself. Instead, we are treated to the most duplictious sort of perfidy and intentional deceit, witness the constant blaming of Jews for every terrorist act. The Arab world's attempts to tie all further progress to the intractable Palestinian situation's solution is simply ridiculous. Especially since the Arab world continues to exacerbate and derail all attempts to resolve the conflict.
It is this sort of hypocrisy and wilfull perpetuation of mass murder that has finally begun to cancel any and all putative worth Islam might once have had to this world. Should Muslims wish to avert the complete and total destruction of their religion, they must immediately start demonstrating a genuine determination to rid their faith of its political component. To date, that political component has intentionally been rendered inseparable from Islam's overall religious context. Supposedly moderate Muslims who do not protest and take action against this usurping of their religion must face the fact that they are willing participants in its atrocities. The blame lies nowhere else.
Should Muslims fail to purge their faith of this violent aspect, all Islam must die. No options.
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Their idea of dialog is trying to get Christians and Jews to convert to Islam by pointing out that Islam is both a Christian and Jewish heresy, without owning up to it. All of this while they're preaching death to non-Muslims. You gotta love it.
A Saudi court sentenced a university professor to five years in prison Sunday on charges of sowing dissent after he compared U.S. killings of Iraqi civilians to Osama bin Laden's terror attacks.
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So does his ...
Saeed bin Mubarak al-Zaeer, a 57-year-old university professor, was sentenced by the court in the capital Riyadh. The sentencing took place without the presence of a lawyer representing al-Zaeer. Al-Zaeer was detained by security forces in April after he appeared on the Al-Jazeera television station and made comments comparing the killing of civilians in terror attacks by bin Laden's al-Qaida group with Iraqi civilians killed by U.S. forces or Palestinians killed by Israelis. The professor was detained in April for showing "blatant support and compassion for terrorist acts, and his justification of the deeds of its perpetrators — in spite of how this goes against Islamic teachings," the Interior Ministry said at the time. The court convicted Al-Zaeer of "sowing dissent and inciting sedition against the rulers." His sentence begins immediately and time served will be included. Al-Zaeer's son, Mubarak, was detained in May for appearing on Al-Jazeera to denounce his father's arrest. He was released that same month after signing a statement pledging not to comment to the media. The kingdom has since launched a high-profile crackdown on terrorists and extremist clerics and repeatedly has warned Saudis not to support terrorists in word or deed.
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Goat fanciers turned out in force to admire and bid for beautiful goats showing off on the catwalk at a weekend festival and auction of Al-Shami goats in Riyadh.
"Yay!"
"Whoopee!"
"Hubba hubba!"
"Lookit the teats on that one!"
"Oh, shake it, baby!"
They came from all over the Gulf. Abdullah Al-Asaker, from Kuwait, said the Al-Shami breed of goat was introduced to Kuwait from Saudi Arabia. He estimated the investment in Al-Shami goat breed at more than SR20 million.
"We developed these beautiful features by breeding only first cousins..."
As prices kept rising at the auction, goat breeders were jubilant that goat breeding after all was as profitable as camel breeding. Thirty goats were selected according to age and gender. Abdul Aziz Al-Khalaf, one of the five judges for the "Most Beautiful Goat" competition, explained that the winners are chosen on the basis of a combination of factors and overall appearance, not simply by their color.
"Oh, yasss... We had some very talented goats, and it wasn't just the bikini competition, no sirree! There was tap dancing and baton twirling and one of the goats sang a Burt Bacharach song..."
Most touching to hear the winning goat talk about her plans for promoting whirrled peas.
Particular points taken into consideration are the head, nose, mouth, ears, breast and eyes. The most important factor is the size of the head and the whiteness of the eye.
"And the size of the bazooms, of course..."
Muhammad Al-Kebaisi, from Qatar, said he is an Al-Shami fancier.
"They're much less demanding than women or young boys..."
He said goat fancying is increasing in Qatar, but because Saudi Arabia has banned the export of fodder to Qatar, the hobby has been seriously affected. Saad Al-Jabr said they need a space designated for exhibition and auction of their goats that is equipped like the ones in Kuwait. "This gathering provided a perfect chance to look at the latest developments in the hobby," he said.
"I was especially impressed by the exhibits of... ummm... animal husbandry aids."
Wonder if Mike Ditka was there promoting Levitra?
The main problem breeders face is that they cannot transport their goats to other countries to participate in auctions or buy any Al-Shami goats from other countries to transport to Kuwait.
"They're my goats! You shan't have them at any price! They're family!"
Dr. Khaled Al-Ahmad, the head of the livestock department, said he was amazed at how well the festival was organized. Referring to the banning of international transport of livestock, he said the movement is subject to quarantine procedures to preserve livestock and to prevent viruses from spreading. (hat tip: LGF)
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Did any of them try to tuck a buck in the goat's garter?
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Reminds me of the old joke about the English Raj in India: One englishman says to another: "Did you hear about old James. He ran off with a gorrilla". "That's terrible," said the other Englishman. "Male or female"? "Female, of course, there's nothing queer about old James". So, as long as they're female goats........
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Hmm. Upon first seeing the headline, I wondered how they'd run a beauty contest with a bunch of Saudi babes in burkas . . .
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me so horny!
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"Wait a second, that's no goat! It's my ex-wifes reicarnation! I demand my property be handed back for free!"
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I have little time for the BNP, as do most people in the UK, but that's totally beside the point. Members of the British National Party are being considered unemployable untermenschen fit to be excluded for the good of 'diversity'. If they aren't allowed to work for the Government, perhaps they'll be allowed to pay no taxes...
The Home Office is considering whether to ban BNP members from working in the civil service. Martin Narey, the government's exclusionality diversity champion, is working on the issue but no decision has been taken. A Home Office spokesman emphasised the matter has not yet been discussed with ministers and is still at civil servant level. The Association of Chief Police Officers recently decided officers could not be BNP members. The British National Party has done well in recent elections, and says it is wrong to stop people from being members of a legal political party. The party denies it is racist. Former anti-apartheid activist and Commons leader Peter Hain described the BNP as a "vile party of Nazis and thugs" and suggested last week that its members were not fit for office. After all, a 'thought crime' must be just as bad as other crimes. It's called a crime, and as we all know there ain't no such thing as a victimless crime...
In November last year, Home Secretary David Blunkett backed a ban on police officers being BNP members, and chief constables agreed the measure two months ago. The Sunday Times reported that civil service unions had already been consulted over a ban. It quoted Charles Cochrane, secretary of the Council of Civil Service Unions which represents 400,000 workers, as saying there was an "inescapable illogic" behind a ban. "There isn't any fundamental legal obstacle to this." Beyond blatant infringement of basic human rights, using political affiliation to deny a person employment?
But it is understood that new legislation might be needed to enforce a ban. The BNP has said bans on membership are "anti-democratic" and could challenge any proscription using the Human Rights Act. But if brought in, the civil service would argue, like the police have, that being a member breaches rules on diversity. Newspeak. This is an example of extraordinarily overt insane PC illiberal self-parody. Some are obviously considered 'more diverse' than others. Who next? Communists? Pro-hunters? Why not?
BNP spokesman Phil Edwards told the Sunday Times: "This is totalitarianism, Soviet-style. It shows they are extremely worried." And prepared to act like the fascists they accuse you of being.
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This really pisses me off. If the government can't see that this kind of Orwellian behaviour could be refocussed on Labour party supporters sometime in the future, then they're blind.
Expect support for the BNP to increase if this ban goes ahead.
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It is indeed a gift to the BNP, but that's also really beside the point. Where else have we seen people persecuted simply because of membership of (legal andf recognised) political parties? Plenty of places gllobally and historically, but not anywhere I'd imagine finding myself living. (And no, I never imagined I'd live in Belgium, home of the officially classified untermenschen and disenfranchised Vlaams Blok voters)
And of course this is a direct reaction to the BNP doing well. The price to pay for becoming not just an embarassment that can be laughed at by NuLabour Why do they just want to spitefully deny BNP members jobs? Is it because they can't do anything else? Do they think the public would get shirty if BNP members were evicted from council properties? Would we smell a decidedly intolerant rat if the names and addresses of all BNP members were posted in public places? If BNP members were made to wear identifying insignia?
Tony Blair is set for talks with Iraqi prime minister Iyad Allawi. Their meeting comes after the British PM played down claims that he had been warned a year before the war to oust Saddam Hussein of the chaos that might follow. Mr Allawi will meet Mr Blair at No 10 for several hours today, and is expected to stay on for a meeting with Foreign Secretary Jack Straw tomorrow before flying to Washington for talks with President George Bush. The Downing Street talks are likely to focus on whether elections in Iraq can still go ahead in January as planned despite the ferocious violence unleashed there in the last few weeks.
Mr Blair has tried to stamp down claims that he had ignored warnings about the lack of planning for a post-war Iraq. Leaked memos from Foreign Secretary Jack Straw and senior Whitehall officials were published in the Daily Telegraph but the PM insisted: "Having read in the papers that apparently I was warned of the chaos that was going to ensue in Iraq, I actually got the minute Jack sent me. It didn't do anything of the sort. "What it warned of was this: it's very important that we don't replace one dictator, Saddam Hussein, with another." ... "I totally agree with that." Mr Blair added: "The idea that we did not have a plan for afterwards is simply not correct. We did, and we have unfolded that plan, but there are people in Iraq who are determined to stop us."
The enemy does get a vote.
He said Iraq was "the very crucible of the fight against terrorism, against groups that are prepared to kill or take hostages, or do whatever they can in order to prevent Iraq becoming a stable, democratic country".
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"...there are people in Iraq who are determined to stop us."
Unfortunately, they're not just in Iraq. Several 'news' organizations come to mind...
More than 70% of Russians live under "protracted psychological, emotional and social stress," said the Demography and Human Ecology Center of the Russian Academy of Sciences. This "increases the danger of abnormal mass-scale destructive reactions and outbursts among the population," the Center said in an annual report released in Moscow. Nearly twice as many psychiatric patients, excluding drug addicts and people suffering from alcohol-caused psychoses, were registered by Russian mental outpatient clinics in 2002 as in 1992, the report said.
I'm always put off by "studies" like this. The definition of "stress" varies from person to person, and from day to day with the person. The stuff I don't notice on Monday may drive me nutz on Tuesday, and Herb, the guy down the street might not notice a thing under similar circumstances, while Dagwood, the guy up the street, might snap and slaughter his lovely blond wife and their two children and their houseful of dogs. There's stress involved in making a living and paying your bills every month, because your wife and kiddies depend on you, and some people kill themselves because they can't keep up. There's stress involved in sitting behind sandbags in cold red mud or hot brown sand while Communists or Islamists drop mortars on you. There's stress involved in driving to work in the morning and having a 16-year-old with the IQ of a Brussels sprout driving $35,000 worth of car weave in front of you and almost kill you both.
I'd rather have my life, complete with the occasional 16-year-old, than Ivan's life, having to put up with unsettled ecomomic and political systems, corruption, and occasional exploding Chechens. Ivan would probably rather have his life than that of the poor guy in Bangla, living in the most corrupt country in the world, surrounded by malevolent mullahs and incompetent commies.
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Lies, damned lies and statistics, fer sure!
Let's see, this could be due to:
o more stress than 10 years ago - the writer's opinion
o more people willing to seek treatment
o treatment available for more patients
o more patients being treated as outpatients, rather than in a locked ward
o treatment being extended preferentially to non-drug/alcohol addicts
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Okay, so put the USSR back together, and everything will be just fine. There's no depression, no problems, no unhappiness when you're working for the elevation of the State. Just look at Cuba and North Korea. They're shining examples. No problems there.
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For me, when I lived in Latvia 2 years after it broke free of the Soviet Union and was still beholden to that state's whims, stress meant no heat in any buildings until it got cold enough for the pipes to freeze; no hot water, so you shower in ice cold water in winter (kinda like ice cream brain freeze but all over), dry yourself off in an unheated apartment, walk to the bus trying vainly to avoid soaking your feet in lake-sized puddles, catch public transportation, then to get pickpocketed, stomped on, and pushed off public transportation that is taking you to work by aggressive fellow commuters.
Yeah, I can already hear the overwhelming cries of sympathy. I can tell you though, even for a winter lover like me, it wears you down. Another volunteer teacher had a nervous breakdown from the difficulty of life there. Life there bore some similarity to the lives our ancestors experienced in the US in the early days of our country. 21st century life pampers us so we sometimes have a hard time trying to imagine how bad things can get when you rough it year after year after year.
A soon to be former Russian governor has become the first to break ranks over Kremlin plans to abolish elected regional heads and replace them with appointees, attacking the proposals as "undemocratic and unconstitutional". Vladimir Tikhonov, the governor of Ivanovo region, told The Telegraph that the reforms announced by President Vladimir Putin last week in the wake of the Beslan school siege, and the hijacking of two airliners, were against the law. "From the point of view of development of democracy this is a step back," said Mr Tikhonov, who was summoned from Ivanovo, 200 miles north-east of Moscow to a special cabinet meeting last week. Mr Putin's proposed new legislation will replace the elected heads of the 89 regions with satraps appointees, confirmed by regional assemblies, as part of a package of measures to increase security and "unify state power".
"I have just received word that President Putin has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away."
"But that's impossible. How will he maintain control without the bureaucracy?"
"The regional governors now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line."
Opponents say that it is a sign of the creeping authoritarianism that reflects Mr Putin's past as a KGB spy. The Tsar's New Clothes are stunning, no?
Tikhonov may shortly have a premier cell in the Lubyanka.
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Or Mr. Tikhonov may have a mysterious heart attack.
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If the west wants to win the war against terrorists, especially the Islamic terrorism, the best choice the west has is to give Putin a free hand to deal with this international stupidity of radical Islam. It is the west who created this problem; it is the west that is sheltering the Islamic Russian terrorists. Think about it, it will be self defeating not to help Putin in the war against terrorism. Think again, why US is helping Pakistan when the road to all these terrorism passes through Pakistan. We desperately need friends in our fight against the Islamic terrorism. The biggest stupidity the West will ever do in this current situation is to criticize Putin.
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A6391 - WTF? Wotta load of apologist / pro-Soviet-style bullshit. The West created this problem? You're a total asshat and fool - or disinformation agent. Fuckwit.
I utterly disagree, of course, that the only answer is to trade in the fate and future of millions of Russians for the expediency of gaining a back-stabbing self-serving power-hungry "Soviet" piece of shit like Tsar Putty for an ally. We've been there, done that, and been repeatedly butt-fucked for our trust already - or is there no one with a functioning memory? Bullshit.
Beslan pushed me into the black zone, but supporting Putty is a lose-lose. He'll be precisely as reliable and trustworthy an ally as Stalin. Think about that.
A6391 - "Think about it"? I did. You're full of shit and Putty's a Soviet Dictator-in-waiting - fuck you both.
(AP) An American woman has been arrested in Germany for allegedly trying to sell German military secrets to a third country, federal prosecutors said Friday. Prosecutors said they were preparing charges of attempted treason against the German-born woman, a 43-year-old translator living in Canada, for trying to sell sensitive military documents to a "non-NATO country" last October. A German company had given her the material to translate. Investigators believe it contained "a state secret" whose betrayal to a foreign intelligence service would have raised a serious security threat to Germany, prosecutors said in a statement. Prosecutors said the sale was prevented but did not say how. They refused to name the country outside the NATO military alliance that allegedly was interested in the materials. Federal police arrested the woman, a U.S. citizen, in Rhineland-Palatinate state on Monday while she was visiting her parents in Germany, prosecutors said. The woman was identified only as Michaela T. Ran across this while slumming on CBS. Who knows.
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"Spies! All spies!!!"
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I'm thinking, the Skoreans, tired of reverse enginering everything wanted details of Mercedes all alloy DOHC V-8. Word is they intend to shoe horn a copy in a KIA for the Chinese market. Might work!
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mercenary: Motivated solely by a desire for monetary or material gain.
Seems she is a German, naturlized as a US citizen, living in Canada I bet on a German pasport) who is on the make for money only and has no loyalties to anyone but herself. Must be a euro-trash ( white trash but from europe) thing.
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Since the early 1990s, or even the late 1980s, France and the US have been involved in an intelligence cold war. The French started(?) it, by harassing US businessmen traveling on Air France: copying their computer hard drives and bugging hotel rooms, etc.
The US finally had enough and started to thump on French spies: mostly catching them at US entry points then *thoroughly* inspecting them, as it were. I'm sure a LOT more back-and-forth has been going on.
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JOHN Kerry's campaign has warned Australians that the Howard Government's support for the US in Iraq has made them a bigger target for international terrorists.
Diana Kerry, younger sister of the Democrat presidential candidate, told The Weekend Australian that the Bali bombing and the recent attack on the Australian embassy in Jakarta clearly showed the danger to Australians had increased.
"Australia has kept faith with the US and we are endangering the Australians now by this wanton disregard for international law and multilateral channels," she said, referring to the invasion of Iraq.
Asked if she believed the terrorist threat to Australians was now greater because of the support for Republican George W. Bush, Ms Kerry said: "The most recent attack was on the Australian embassy in Jakarta -- I would have to say that."
Ms Kerry, who taught school in Indonesia for 15 years until 2000, is heading a campaign called Americans Overseas for Kerry which aims to secure the votes of Americans abroad -- including the more than 100,000 living in Australia
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Seems like the whole Kerry family has it in for Americans.
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The Captain's comments make the case re: the damage Kerry is doing to US- Australian relationship for political points
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Just in time for the Oct 9th elections in Oz, of course.
Skerry's just emulating his heroes Chirac and Shroeder. In terms of integrity, ethics, credibility, partisanship, and outright self-serving asshattedness, no matter the cost or who is harmed, he's right there shoulder to shoulder with 'em. That's Skeery's brand of patriotism and his whole family seems to be of a single (hive?) mind.
After the election, Massachussets, in a fit of wild appreciation to the rest of the nation for avoiding the calamity of electing this zipperhead as President, should successfully execute a recall of both of their Senators, and petition Dubya to deport them somewhere. Anywhere will do. Methinks Australia would not be one of their options.
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#7 .com: Hmmmm. You've brought up an interesting point.
Would their overheated bloviating be considered cruel to the sheep? PETA might object, in that case.
I wouldn't worry about the Mass. Duo noticing the sheep farts, though. I doubt they'd notice, compared to their own socialist stentch.
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Is it just me or has the Kerry campaign now pulled the trigger on the gun they've had pointed at their collective head for the last few weeks? Kerry's campaign is now actively discouraging the very allies he claims to want to involve from acting with us in the War on Terror. They won't be able to nuance this enough to keep Karl Rove from scoring a knockout with it.
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Since Diana Wants to be a part of her brother's forein policy team, we could offer her a post on the planet where the Roswell, NM aliens come from.
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I wouldn't say the aliens "come" from New Mexico. That's where they crashed. However, that seems more appropriate for the Kerry campaign: crash and burn. They're doing it to themselves.
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In order words Kerry is going to endanger the lives of U.S. servicemen (by influencing the Austrailian election to get them to pull out and enbolden the terrorists) in order to score a few political points in the election.
Will this traitor stop at nonthing? Whats next? Will he hold secret meetings with OBL and/or Zarqawi in Paris like he did with the North Vietmanese during the Vietnam war.
Why not? He endangered American G.I. during Vietnam by helping to convince (along with Hanoi Jane) the North Vietmanese to continue to fight and not seek peace. I think he is willing and able (and even eager) to do the same thing now.
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"...Massachussets, in a fit of wild appreciation to the rest of the nation for avoiding the calamity of electing this zipperhead as President, should successfully execute a recall of both of their Senators..."
Instead of executing a recall of their Senators, why not just execute the Senators?
JMHO...
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Shhhhhhhh... Now I know you were referring to the proper authorities, i.e. The Modern Salem Coven of Asshole Retribution and White Magic SuperBitch PayBax, but ya gotta be careful about how you talk on the 'Net, heh. People get all hinky when talk turns to lamppost decoratin' inside the US...
Personally, I be likin' the idea... Always wanted to see Samantha's Dark Side!
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I rank Ms Kerrys statements a treason and I will not wait for her indement. FOAD you tratorist bitch. I hope some female marine beats the holy crap out of you. You are giveing Aid and Comfort to our enimies in a time of war. Again a good old fashion shit pounding is in order.
The Army Reserve is sending to Iraq about 800 soldiers from a unit that normally trains reserve and active-duty soldiers in the United States and has never deployed overseas in the 45 years that it has been part of the Reserve. Members of the Rochester, N.Y.-based 98th Division will begin heading to Iraq next month to help train the fledgling Iraqi army, and they will be there for 12 months, Army Reserve officials said Thursday.
Lt. Gen. James Helmly, chief of the Army Reserve, pointed to the highly unusual mobilization as an illustration of how part-time soldiers must get used to the idea that they can be called to active duty, even if they are members of a non-combat unit like the 98th. Since word went out that the 98th was going to Iraq, ``I've gotten cards, letters, e-mails (asking), `How can you do that?''' Helmly said, referring to reaction within the Reserve to mobilizing and sending to a combat zone a unit that does not have its own vehicles and weapons.
The 800 soldiers will form what Helmly called a provisional command, the Foreign Army Training and Assistance Command, operating under the direction of Lt. Gen. David Petraeus, who is responsible for building up Iraqi security forces so that U.S. forces can eventually go home.
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Nice to see this, Steve. They're a bit pissed but looking to do their duty. Usual whining in the local Gannett publication today (here in Rochester).
Their HQ is just past the end of my street. They jog around our neighborhood all the time. The last two years has gotten them in much better shape, for a bunch of old codgers. They look to average 40 or so.
Thailand will send more troops to the country's largely Muslim south in an effort to quell months of violence in the restive region, an army officer said on Sunday. More than 320 people have been killed in the area since January, when gunmen raided an army camp and seized hundreds of weapons. A low-key Muslim separatist insurgency was fought in the south in the 1970s and 1980s. "Another six battalions are to be deployed to three southern provinces -- Yala, Pattani and Narathiwat," a senior army officer said. "This is to reinforce the military presence in the south because the situation there has yet to be stabilised," said the officer, who declined to be identified.
The six battalions, about 4,200 troops in all, will be deployed in early October, joining about 6,300 soldiers already on patrol in the far south bordering Muslim-majority Malaysia. Interior Minister Bhokin Bhalakula declined to comment on whether more troops were needed. Despite the heavy military presence in the south, attacks on symbols of the largely Buddhist central government, such as state buildings, and ambushes of security officers happen almost daily. A judge was killed by gunmen in the town of Pattani on Friday. Police say a Muslim student has confessed to involvement in the attack and they are hunting for two other suspects. Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has blamed the violence on radical Muslim teachers who he said preach a separatist ideology and urge their students to attack government officials.
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The mullahs love to make it happen. It will be happening in reverse for the bad guys of Tehran, real soon. Long lasting solutions for Iraq being plagued with wave after wave of 'imported' Islamic terrorism, via Iran may soon poise a rather sticky situation Tehran's chief exporters of civilian chaos and economic sabotage for neighbouring Iraq.
Currently Iran's does not have difficulties gathering international customers for its exported OPEC crude oil sales, because Iranian waters, ports and petroleum infrastructure are viewed as 'secure'. Iran has also been utilizing enormous petroleum profits to further Islamic jihadic bloodbaths in, Israel, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, plus to Iran's north in the Trans-Caucasus, among other selected target zones for the spreading of fanatical Islamic warfare.
Sometimes reciprocity takes a while to reach the bad guys. The long wait shall soon be over. Our troops will be far better protected from evil.
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TEHRAN: A defiant Iran Sunday rejected a resolution by the UN atomic watchdog calling for a halt to sensitive nuclear work and threatened to block tough inspections if the issue was referred to the Security Council.
"Iran will not accept any obligations concerning the suspension of enrichment," Iran's top nuclear official Hassan Rowhani said after the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) called for a halt to uranium enrichment-related activities.
The IAEA resolution adopted in Vienna Saturday also set a Nov. 25 deadline for a full review of Tehran's nuclear activities.
Although Rowhani appeared to reject the resolution, he said Iran could accept a suspension "through negotiations" and if it was a "voluntary decision."
But he also warned that the Islamic republic would halt its application of a key safeguards treaty if the nuclear dossier was referred to the UN Security Council, as sought by the United States.
The Islamic regime insists its nuclear program is strictly aimed at generating electricity, despite suspicions - particularly in the United States - it is seeking to develop nuclear weapons.
Iran signed the additional protocol to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) last December, but parliament has yet to ratify it. The text obliges Iran to accept tougher inspections, including short-notice visits to undeclared facilities.
"We are committed to the NPT ... and will continue to voluntarily apply the additional protocol. But we will stop applying the additional protocol if the case is sent to the Security Council," Rowhani warned.
Washington said Tehran should respond to the IAEA demands.
"I think that the IAEA board of governors sent a very clear message that Iran must cease its pursuit of nuclear weapons and answer questions which the board has raised and suspend its enrichment activity," U.S. Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham told reporters in Vienna.
"Iran should follow the obligations and cooperate fully with the IAEA. The clock is ticking down now on Iran to the next meeting" of the IAEA board in November, he added.
But Rowhani, head of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, said Iran's hardline parliament could also push for a pull-out from the NPT if the Security Council moved to sanction the country.
Iran suspended enrichment in October 2003 as a confidence-building measure, but has continued support activities such as building the centrifuges that refine the uranium.
It has also caused alarm by saying that it would be carrying out the first stage of the nuclear fuel cycle, making the uranium gas that is the feed for centrifuges. Fuel cycle work is permitted under the NPT, but Iran has been under pressure to stop because the process of enriching uranium can used to produce fuel for a nuclear reactor or the core of a nuclear bomb.
Rowhani accused Europe's "big three" behind Saturday's resolution - Britain, France and Germany - of breaking an accord on Iran's cooperation struck here in October 2003.
"The three Europeans have violated the terms of the accord regarding enrichment because the suspension of enrichment was voluntary," he said, without saying if Tehran had abandoned the deal.
The Iranian parliament also adopted a harsh tone, saying it would not ratify the additional protocol and describing the IAEA move as "illegal."
"The continued defiance of principles by the IAEA's board of governors leaves no room for us to ratify the additional protocol," said a statement read out in parliament.
"We the deputies urge the government to seriously follow up with the completion of the fuel cycle program for nuclear plants," it said.
The hardline and influential Kayhan daily called for Iran to quit the NPT if the IAEA does not close the case in November. It also accused Iranian officials of "incompetence and naivete" in handling the nuclear dossier.
By Siavosh Ghazi, Agence France Presse
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Thank goodness the Iranian mullahs are such morons. If they made even the least attempt to appease the IAEA inspectors they could have nearly unfettered leeway to pursue the covert fabrication of nuclear devices.
Fortunately, the eggshell ego of Iran's mullahs perceives any and all external pressure as the most humiliating of threats. The corresponding vehemence and belligerance they display in return would be comical if these lunatics weren't such a threat to regional stability.
Instead, Iran's obstinate refusal to cooperate in any form will merely translate into yet another solid reason for UN approval of military intervention. Forthcoming or not, the UN's benediction is really of no consequence. Iran routinely makes it more than clear that they are in dire need of having their nuclear facilities blown off of the map.
The only thing I ask is that these sites are hit, air raid shelters and all, during hours of maximum occupancy and activity. We need to exterminate all of Iran's nuclear science community post haste.
The mullahs have to go
Iran has said it will not agree to halt uranium enrichment, despite the UN nuclear watchdog's call for a suspension of all such activities.
"Iran will not accept any obligation regarding the suspension of uranium enrichment," chief nuclear negotiator Hassan Rohani said. "No international body can force Iran to do so," he added. (Now that was a dumb statement begging for a little demonstration, and sounds sooooo Saddam)
Uranium enrichment can be used to make nuclear weapons, but Iran says its programme is for peaceful purposes.
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"No international body can force Iran to do so."
Of course not, they were designed to be impotent. But a couple of heavily armed Nation States should be able to handle the job in a few short minutes.
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Oddly, the "IAEA Tough Guy" is a survivor and the "Iranian counterpart" is a nuclear missile target. Apparently natural selection sometimes favors the impotent bureaucrat.
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In light of Iran's overall track record, I think it's far better that they continue on this course of defiant and belligerant conduct. The net result will be them getting the crap bombed out of their nuclear program and, quite possibly, regime change. All of these are very good things.
Were the Iranian mullahs collectively capable of rubbing two brain cells together, they would appease the IAEA and merely continue a clandestine nuclear weapons program on the side. Such dissembling would utterly cripple any of the UN's usually toothless enforcement (see Darfur) and permit the Iranians to achieve their cloven-footed ends.
Instead, they continue to place their head in the noose of regional conflict. It's like there's some sort of congenital disposition towards rapacity that they neither can supress nor outgrow. All well and fine then, the bombing begins in fifteen minutes weeks.
While we can expect no such thing from the blind-as-a-cave-fish Europeans, a lot of the remaining world is going to heave a sigh of relief once the mullahs have received their just desserts.
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Alright, Zenster. I am ready to go and help the mullahs find their just desserts. Let's get it over with, already. We should have gotten started on this 24 years ago and pounded the capitol flat with B-52's and followed that up with the least disciplined troops we've got going in and draping pig guts over every mullah we find.
How about shoving a pig's foot in the mouth of every mullah, replacing their blood with warm lard and burying them wrapped in uncured pigskins. And then we shoot them . . . once they have had a chance to realize they are being buried in pig.
But maybe I am being to kind and thoughtful of their feelings . . . I will have to go and get creative about this . . .
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JR, no need to waste perfectly good trotters and other pig parts. JUST KILL THE MULLAHS AND ALL THEIR NUCLEAR SCIENTISTS. That is all we need to do, the rest is gratuitous and unnecessary.
Like I've said elsewhere, we need to specifically target all air raid shelters during our bombing runs over the Iranian nuclear weapons sites. The strikes should be specially timed to coordinate with periods of maximum occupation and activity by staff and workers. When we are finished with them, Iran should be incapable of putting together any weapon more complicated than a hammer.
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Alas, JR, Carter was the president thingy back then. And we can all remember how that faux pas turned out... An excursion into the heart of darkness: self-defeatism.
There's another thingy of the same calibre and quality running about the "swing states" blathering incoherent contradictions and apologies right now. He's so confused about reality that wants to join the E3. Will history repeat itself and serve up another total fool and apologist? Another self-defeatist who threatens his own?
We shall see, we shall see - soon. Vote. Beat everyone you know over the head to vote, too. Vote with your wallet in the Senate campaigns, as OS so sagely pointed out a week or so ago. Make this election count, big-time, toward the end of Mullahcracy as a form of threat government. Nothing else makes any sense.
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Just desserts? I vote for chocolate mousse with raspberry sauce and a little unsweetened whipped cream. Failing that, a nice light lime sorbet with macaroons to clear the palate. ;-D
A Chinese senior official said Saturday it is in the interest of all parties to peacefully resolve the Iranian nuclear issue through talks within the framework of the I nt ernational Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Zhang Yan, China's permanent representative to the United Nations and other international organizations in Vienna, made the remarks after the UN nuclear watchdog adopted a resolution setting a Nov. 25 deadline for Iran to freeze its uranium enrichment program. The resolution, adopted at a meeting of the IAEA's 35-nation board of governors, does not call on the board to report Iran's nuclear issue to the UN Security Council, as the United States hadstrongly demanded. But the document says the agency will decide inNovember on whether Iran has fully met its demands and see if any further actions are needed. ...more...
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Kind of an empty comment, given China's support for Iranian nuclear efforts.
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China urges to resolve Iranian issue within IAEA
I think there must be some issue here with translation or something. If North Korea is any indicator, when the Chinese say "resolve" it means an interminable festering drip fed diplomatic stalemate that serves China's ends only.
China's breeding up of a regional threat for the Middle East, as it has done in the north Asian quadrant, is merely rewarded by all and sundry with continued business by exactly those who should be most concerned. That America lacks the spine to begin a program of sanctions and trade embargoes against China shows, to paraphrase George Will, that the White House loves commerce more than it loathes communism. Quite simply, we are feeding the hand that bites us.
Europe's recent overtures regarding a pact with the communist Chinese regime represents a new low in craven false alliances. Their ability to disregard China's export of the very missile technology that Iran could use to attack them perfectly typifies the incredible shortsightedness they have displayed on all other fronts. Should Europe continue this reckless pursuit of trumping the United States at any cost, their reward will come in the form of missile attacks and Islamic domination of their cultures. All of which will be richly deserved.
September 17th, 2004, By Sol Sanders
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
One of those mysterious North Korean explosions and the intractability of Iran dramatize, if more evidence were needed, just how dangerous the world [again!] has become in the post-Soviet era. The events of 9/11 only served to focus the nature of that new jungle out there. Grappling with it is as complex as only a worldwide phenomenon could be. But the threats posed by North Korea and Iran do segment and dramatize it.
Pyongyang's explanation of a "planned hydroelectric construction explosion" is not only ridiculous, but further evidence of the rickety nature of the regime. Big "events" are always trumpeted as obeisance to The Dear Leader. Certainly not a hydroelectric project in an area notorious for its aridity but known to have underground weapons installations. It does demonstrate the dichotomy of Communist regimes — relatively efficient weapons production accompanied by starvation, in living memory in a "revisionist" China and continuing today in ultra-Stalinist North Korea. [Note even the less than prosperous post-USSR Russia and Ukraine are grain exporters; the extent of the perennially failing Soviet crop used to be a measurement hotly debated among the Kremlinologists.]
Tehran's conflicting statements and the International Atomic Energy Agency's equivocation about its snooping is only matched by the wishful thinking [again!] among the US' allies in Western Europe — now Britain as well as Germany, and, of course, France. They are holding out for diplomacy [appeasement?] to halt what has to be the mullahs'hellbent effort at producing nuclear weapons. There is no logic, as they maintain, in an impoverished society with some of the world's largest petroleum reserves seeking "a full nuclear fuel cycle" for electricity— even for obscurantist Islamicists drowning in their 7th Century tribalism.
It is no accident, as the Communists used to say, joint development of missiles — and perhaps nuclear technology — bind the two pariah states. They have not only abetted each other. But their external support for diverse but equally deadly terror organizations notoriously continues. North Korea has graduated from aiding student revolutionaries in Mexico City, airport massacres in Israel, public assassination in Burma, and kidnapping in Japan, to peddling high tech weapons for its survival.
The Iranian mullahs are still in the same old business: arming terrorists working out of Syria [again!], to Iraq, Lebanon, and Pakistan. But their ambitions are now grander. With nuclear arms, a large population base, nascent industrialization, and a strategic position, they see themselves as the dominant Mideast power. These dreams are not new. But in the Shah's time [with the exception of a little problem of OPEC and higher oil prices for the US and the West] nostalgia for past Persian glory was within the bounds of a U.S. alliance -- and a modernization toward more universal values.
It's there all the efforts for compromise founder. Compromise is the product of diplomacy — and a shared reasoning. But in neither instance is there much hope of that.
Its proponents argue were the U.S. to negotiate on a one-on-one basis with Pyongyang, it would produce disarmament agreement which would remove the threat of a nuclear clad North Korea, and, worse, its selling such weapons, possibly even non-state terrorists like Al Qaida. Yet that logic dictates North Korea would have to transform itself, at least as far as Communist China has, into a more viable society with access to and dependence on foreign investment, trade and technology transfers. There is no evidence North Korea's leadership does not see such developments as the regime's death warrant. It seeks nuclear weapons to maintain the dictatorship of a military elite. The Bush Administration's strategy, limping perhaps through the untrustworthiness of its allies [again!], is to seek the help of North Korea's neighbors. They all have an interest in a North Korea without nuclear weapons, at least in theory. The threat of an economic blockade is the alternative to a compromise which would include economic aid for the regime. The problem is our allies — South Korea, and to some extent, Japan — are unwilling to consider applying those sanctions. China, the principle player, while mouthing platitudes, continues to be the main prop of the regime. Moscow's Putin, ever ambivalent, blames U.S. rhetoric for the impasse.
The mullahs present an even more horrendous predicament. They see themselves as instruments of a higher power for world domination, justifying all prevarication and obfuscation with infidels. At their furtherest reaches, they pursue a fanaticism in which their followers' death is only the entrance to paradise. But the Europeans base their hopes for the kind of change which came in Central and Eastern Europe under the Communists on a policy of "engagement" with these same mullahs. Meanwhile, the threatening clock ticks louder, not only for Iran's Mideast neighbors, but for Europe as the range of their missiles lengthens.
Iraq, with all its problems, is only the opening act of the drama now ahead of us.
Sol W. Sanders, (solsanders@comcast.net), is an Asian specialist with more than 25 years in the region, and a former correspondent for Business Week, U.S. News & World Report and United Press International. He writes weekly for World Tribune.com.
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You mean they could tear themselves away from bashing the U.S.?
I'm impressed. (NOT)
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Whew! A "close call", heh. Not to worry, Barbara - he actually just received a phone call from one of the "stringers" they use (read: local serf) to his suite at the Waldorf. He's fine, though just hearing the news meant total heartbreak - on the Diane Sawyer uber-sensitivity scale - and 10 or 20 solicited interviews with the BBC, NYT, et al. He's a trooper though - I'll bet he'll order up some comfort food tonight to get over the episode. The caviar omellete ($1000 a pop) should do it.
"A vote for Mahmoud is a vote for... uhhh... [KABOOM!]... A vote for Ahmed is a vote for good... uhhh... [ZAP! KABOOM!]... A vote for Khalid is a vote for..."
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heh heh
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Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal, who's kept a low profile since last month's twin suicide bombing in southern Israel, made a surprise visit to Egypt on Sunday, holding talks with Egypt's intelligence chief about an anticipated Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip.
He's kept a low profile for purposes of self-preservation...
Mashaal has remained largely out of sight since Israel threatened to target Palestinian militant leaders after the Aug. 31 suicide bombings in Beersheba, Israel, that killed 16 Israelis. Hamas claimed responsibility on Sept. 2, the last day Mashaal appeared in public.
Y'don't think the two were connected, do ya?
Egypt has been trying without success for more than a year to arrange a dialogue among Palestinian factions to explore calling a ceasefire in attacks against Israel alongside the planned Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. But Mohammed Nazal, a Syria-based Hamas official accompanying Mashaal, denied the Hamas visit would include discussions about a cease-fire. "This visit has nothing to do with the dialogue issue," Nazal told The Associated Press, adding that the trip would last a few days. "This visit is to discuss the issue and the consequences of the Zionist withdrawal from Gaza Strip."
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Emerging from one of the few remaining Gaza - Egypt tunnels, Mashall said, "Surprise! I made it!"
Immediately, the Chief of Egyptian Tunnel Immigration and Customs pulled him over for a cavity search - with extreme prejudice.
"You dumbass - don't you realize we still receive over $2Bn in US Aid each year? You want your cut or not? Then STFU with the press releases!"
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon warned Sunday that Israel will retaliate against Palestinan rockets even if they are fired from civilian areas, and an arms manufacturer said Israel had installed a radar system in a border town to give warning of rocket attacks. Sharon's remarks and the reported radar defense were apparently aimed at hardline critics who say Sharon's planned withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 would expose Israel to intense rocket attacks. Numerous Israeli military forays into northern Gaza have failed to still the rocket fire. In the four years of Israeli-Palestinian fighting, Palestinian militants have fired dozens of inaccurate, low-explosive rockets at Israeli border towns and Jewish settlements in Gaza. The missiles caused deaths for the first time in June, when two Israelis, including a 4-year-old boy, were killed. Many missiles have fallen into fields, while others have damaged homes and cars.
I remarked in the wake of the Beslan atrocity that it's more important to take out the terrs than it is to avoid killing the civilians they're hiding among. Sharon apparently thinks the same way.
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cause => effect lessons coming for the idiot Paleos.
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I think the denunciation of Israeli's self defense is the F5 macro on the UN computer system.
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While it is rather easy to regard Israel's retaliation upon the civilian areas used to launch rocket attacks as a form of collective punishment, one thing must be remembered.
The majority Palestinian people vocally support Hamas' terrorists attacks against Israel. Just as the Palestinians use the pretext of Israel's mandatory conscription as an excuse to attack all Israelis (no explanation is given for how this definition is able to include Israeli children), so then must the Palestinian areas' majority support of terrorism serve as justification for retaliation against their civilian population.
For far too long the Palestinians have been allowed to denouce Israel's tactics with apparent impunity. It is time to saddle all of terrorism's supporters with the consequences of their acts. The radar systems installed by Israel should quite easily be able to triangulate the launch points of subsequent rocket attacks. Each launch site should be subjected to counter-battery fire in turn.
Until the Palestinians see the error of their ways, a gradual self-initiated process of thinning their population of all terror facilitators should apply. As I mentioned over in the "Video Shows Beheading of 3 Iraq Hostages" thread, there is essentially no end to terrorism. Those who are inclined towards anti-civilian violence will persist no matter the cost. Those of us who wish to remain alive must aggressively seek out and KILL every terrorist and anyone who is idiotic enough to support them. There is simply no other choice.
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I hope the Israelis use a big ass blanket of tear gas, from mortars and artillery, to set up a thick cloud between the evacuees and the Paleos. Even if you have a protective mask and try to cross it, you still can see diddly to shoot at--plus you can be seen before you see them.
That, and some skillful counterbattery fires should put a serious crimp in any "rout" plan.
Afghan forces backed by 9,000 NATO troops are poised to provide security as national elections approach, but a spectacular offensive by anti-government rebels cannot be ruled out, the top U.S. diplomat in Afghanistan said Friday. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad said Al-Qaida, the Taliban and allied forces are poised to try to derail the Oct. 9 presidential elections and have been cooperating with each other. "I expect that as we go toward the election and on election day, they will try to disrupt," he said. "The area where they are going to be most active is along the border with Pakistan." Khalilzad, who is here for consultations, said they also may carry out "spectacular attacks" similar to the offensive launched by North Vietnam in early 1968 against American forces. That offensive started a process that eventually led to negotiations for the American withdrawal from Vietnam. ...more...
Deep thoughts. Really. Can I get a 'F**kin Duh' here?
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And then again, it may not.
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Spectacular offensive --- blow up a kindergarden?
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A new round of talks to cease hostilities in the Baghdad slum of Sadr City has ended in deadlock, with fighters loyal to radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr refusing American demands to disband and turn in weapons, both sides said Sunday. Regards "negotiating" with Arabs, anyone notice the pattern?
A group of tribal leaders and al-Sadr representatives met Saturday with a Baghdad city councilman acting as an intermediary between the two sides to discuss a 12-point proposal that calls for fighters to disarm in exchange for millions of dollars in reconstruction money and compensation for victims. The plan would also have Iraqi forces take over much of the security in the east Baghdad slum and limit the movement of U.S. troops. American commanders did not take part in the talks, the military said. Compensation? Sigh. Sounds like the skit, again:
"Cake or Death?"
"Oh, uh, um, Cake please."
"Damn!"
"The only sticking point is that the Americans are insisting on disbanding the al-Mahdi Army and this is not possible for us," Kareem al-Bakhatti, al-Sadr's chief representative at the meeting, told The Associated Press. Funny, it was certainly possible when you were facing annihilation in Najaf, screaming for negotiations and someone to save you.
Col. Bryan Roberts, a spokesman for the 1st Cavalry Division, accused al-Sadr of reneging on past promises. "Previously, Muqtada's militia agreed to turn in their heavy weapons and disband but there is no evidence they have complied," Roberts said in a statement. "Their random acts of violence have killed innumerable innocent Iraqi civilians and will not be tolerated," he said. "Our forces stand firm: Muqtada's militia must disarm and disband." Arabs. How about a 1-point proposal: keep your word for a change. Go ahead, surprise us. No? H'okay. Mr Baghdad Councilman - go home, asshole - take your 12-point proposals with you and give up on the payoff. Troopers: Light 'em up... There is a solution.
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Um - that would be our money, we should call the shots
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We should do what one always does with Tater Tots, Preheat oil to 450 and Fry 'em. Salt to taste.
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Mrs D. That's MY line! He he he
Don't forget the Ketchup!
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Iraq is delusional if they think that Sadr's militia thugs are ever going to exit the scene in anything but a pine box. This is like telling the mafia to get out of Las Vegas. An honest accounting needs to be made of just how many Iraqi citizens have died at the hands of these thugs and other terrorists during this conflict. The usual Arab ability to condemn those who help while cheering on the ones who slaughter and main their own countrymen is nothing short of insane.
"Some people aren't on speaking terms with the truth."
Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi insisted elections will go ahead as scheduled in January despite a surge in violence, promising Sunday that the vote would be a "major blow" to the insurgency, as U.S. warplanes and artillery pounded the guerrilla stronghold of Fallujah. A wave of bombings, kidnappings and street fighting has claimed some 300 lives in the past week, part of a 17-month anti-U.S. insurgency that has persisted since Allawi's interim government took power in June. The strikes in Fallujah killed four people. Last week, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan warned there could not be "credible elections if the security conditions continue as they are now."
But Allawi, who spoke with reporters after a meeting with British Prime Minister Tony Blair in London, said his interim government was determined "to stick to the timetable of the elections," which are due by Jan. 31. "January next I think is going to be a major blow to terrorists and insurgents. Once we go through the democratic process, once we achieve and progress toward democracy, the terrorists will be defeated," said Allawi, who is heading to the United Nations for this week's General Assembly session. "We are adamant that democracy is going to prevail, is going to win in Iraq," he said. Allawi clanks when he walks - at least most of the time. On the other hand, Kofi squishes and swishes, all of the time.
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He has air conditioning and muffins when he wants them, books from the library and first class medical treatment. He is protected from violence, threatened or actual. He is still living much more comfortably than the majority of his former subjects.
No sympathy from me. But someone at the NYT misses him.
Faced with a growing insurgency and a January deadline for national elections, American commanders in Iraq say they are preparing operations to open up rebel-held areas, especially Falluja, the restive city west of Baghdad now under control of insurgents and Islamist groups. A senior American commander said the military intended to take back Falluja and other rebel areas by year's end. The commander did not set a date for an offensive but said that much would depend on the availability of Iraqi military and police units, which would be sent to occupy the city once the Americans took it. The American commander suggested that operations in Falluja could begin as early as November or December, the deadline the Americans have given themselves for restoring Iraqi government control across the country. "We need to make a decision on when the cancer of Falluja is going to be cut out," the American commander said. "We would like to end December at local control across the country. Falluja will be tough."
At a minimum, the American commander said, local conditions would have to be secure for voting to take place in the country's 18 provincial capitals for the election to be considered legitimate. American forces have lost control over at least one provincial capital, Ramadi, in Al Anbar Province, and have only a tenuous grip over a second, Baquba, the capital of Diyala Province northeast of Baghdad. Other large cities in the region, like Samarra, are largely in the hands of insurgents. ...more...
NYT.
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Actually the NYT copy was probably put together before the terrorists in Samarra were taken out. The copy editor at the NYT didn't read the blogs nor even the AP or Reuters reports.
I kinda wondered, when I posted this if anyone would go ballistic over this point:
A Ret General Edwards is saying on Fox right now that reporting this to the whole fucking world (I'm paraphrasing here, heh) is STUPID. You don't warn the asshats and put them on notice.
Thank you, NYT. Thank you soooo very very much. Anything else you'd like to let the fucking enemy know?
They're not just anti-war, they're on the other side... Amen, Glenn.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
