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Massive car bomb rocks Hezbollah stronghold in Beirut
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Africa North
Hammer: MB will lose badly should it choose war with Egyptian military
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [314 views] Top||

#1  Please, oh please, oh please . . . .
Posted by: gorb || 07/09/2013 1:11 Comments || Top||

#2  My thoughts exactly, Gorb.
Posted by: WhiskeyMike173 || 07/09/2013 4:25 Comments || Top||

#3  They probably importing suicide boomers from Gaza even as we speak.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/09/2013 7:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Prolly why they are closing the tunnels, which they seem to have 'discovered' quite a few recently.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 07/09/2013 9:28 Comments || Top||

#5  They probably importing suicide boomers from Gaza even as we speak.

Yep.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/09/2013 10:35 Comments || Top||

#6  I would be reluctant to pick the Egyptian military to win a fight with anyone.
Posted by: Iblis || 07/09/2013 10:57 Comments || Top||

#7  It helps aligning yourself with a winner as they did in the First Gulf War, deploying around 35,000 that included two armored divisions and 5,000 paratroopers.

Joint Forces Command - North
At 1600 hours 24 February, the 3rd Egyptian Mechanized Division, TF Khalid and TF Muthannah began to attack Iraqi positions in Kuwait. They encountered Iraqi fire trenches, minefields, barriers, and harassing fires as they crossed the border in their zone. Saudi and Kuwaiti forces began the offensive shortly after the Egyptians. The Egyptians, concerned about an Iraqi armored counterattack, halted their advance short of their initial objectives and established blocking positions in sector for the night. They resumed offensive operations at daybreak the following day. Meanwhile, the 4th Egyptian Armored Division prepared to follow the 3rd Egyptian Mechanized Division. The 9th Syrian Armored Division followed the Egyptian Divisions as the JFC-N reserve and conducted screening operations with one reconnaissance battalion on the right flank to tie in with MARCENT.
- cit
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/09/2013 11:17 Comments || Top||

#8  White Sox vs White Sox is a 50/50 game.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 07/09/2013 11:20 Comments || Top||

#9  They've had their moments in '73 at the start, a water crossing assault isn't the easiest thing in the world, especially against JOOOOOOOOOOOOS.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/09/2013 16:10 Comments || Top||


Government
The Snowden affair: Ever heard of Executive Order 13587 - Mazz-Int
Interesting insights from a Measuring and Signals professional.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/09/2013 09:06 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [258 views] Top||

#1  Executive Order 13587=window dressing and impossible to enforce with the current manpower. Sort of like the so called border efforts associated w/ Reagan's illegal alien amnesty bill.
Posted by: Jack Salami || 07/09/2013 11:24 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Who will police the police?
[Dawn] EVERYTHING is rotten about the state of policing in Pakistain: politicised, incompetent, corrupt, insensitive, ill-disciplined, collusion with crime mafias, etc. So, who will police the police?

The origins of abusive police behaviour are rooted in our colonial past. The police in half the country's provinces, even in Islamabad, still operate under the 1861 law enacted after the 1857 insurrection against British rule.

The law provides for a police force that relies on fear, intimidation and officially sanctioned violence to protect the state. Missing from the act is language promoting the idea of the police protecting the people or having good relations with the community.

Beyond the archaic legal framework, police services suffer from several contemporary problems. The rank and file of the 625,000-member police departments is not recruited on merit; the coppers are poorly educated, ill-trained, badly equipped and underpaid.

Most of the nation's cop shoppes are in dilapidated buildings. Some posts and substations are in makeshift structures. Police are expected to work long hours seven days a week and often go months without time off.

Not surprisingly, junior police officials who are abused by the system and their supervisors treat the public in kind. With low self-esteem no one can serve the community with commitment. So, are the police villains or victims of neglect?

Past efforts to reform the police system, and which sought to change the fundamental conditions and legal framework of policing, have never gained real traction.

An attempt at comprehensive reform was made through the introduction of the 2002 Police Order. While it has remained controversial in part because it was introduced by a military government, this legislation was centred on the principles of fully devolving responsibility for policing to the provinces and strengthening the operational independence of the police.

The 2002 order sought to transform the police from an Irish Constabulary military force model to a modern, service-oriented, non-political, accountable and professional 21st-century institution.

While the order was broadly considered a sound piece of legislation, it was distorted by a number of amendments in 2004. It ultimately failed to take hold and was never properly implemented.

This has been largely attributed to the fact that it was imposed without sufficient stakeholder buy-in at the provincial and district levels. The civil services and vested political interests had strongly opposed the move, as it entailed the loss of direct management authority over the police at the local level.

The picture is now more complex. With the passing of the 18th Amendment, there is now added impetus at the provincial level to bring changes in police laws. This devolution of power has set the provincial governments to restructure relations between politicians, public and the police.

However,
denial ain't just a river in Egypt...
there is now a danger of replicating old models already proven to be ineffective in light of the limited central capacity to provide standardised approaches.

There is now an urgent requirement to engage with policymakers at all levels, including the legislature and the executive to reach agreement on the current and future priorities of police reform. Unless the difficult issues of oversight, neutrality and accountability are addressed, the experience of policing for ordinary citizens will not improve.

While Sindh, Balochistan
...the Pak province bordering Kandahar and Uruzgun provinces in Afghanistan and Sistan Baluchistan in Iran. Its native Baloch propulation is being displaced by Pashtuns and Punjabis and they aren't happy about it...
, Islamabad, Azad Kashmire and Gilgit-Baltistan are still in 19th-century governance mode, Punjab and KP are in the middle of nowhere, suspended in a truncated 2002 Police Order in theory and following the 1861 Act in practice.

The new federal and provincial governments face this dilemma and need to show political will to move ahead in unison to fulfil the public expectations of politically neutral, highly accountable and professionally competent police services that uphold the rule of law.

It is reported that Punjab is set to promulgate a new police law. Both the federal government in Islamabad and the provincial government in Punjab, led by the same political party, need to exercise caution and follow a well-considered national approach.

It all starts from superintendence, direction and control of the police in the legal framework. While superintendence vests in the government i.e. the chief executive and the cabinet, it amounts to keeping the police within constitutional and legal confines and does not mean using the police as an instrument of state oppression or to settle political scores.

The domain of direction relates to policies and does not imply picking and choosing coppers at whim and interfering in the administrative and operational matters of policing.

Unfortunately, everyone wielding influence in this country wants to 'control' the police. The resultant fractured command has a debilitating effect on police discipline and morale, with the inspector general of police trying to juggle a plethora of formal and informal control mechanisms.
Posted by: Fred || 07/09/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [268 views] Top||

#1  Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

This question has been asked since the days of the Romans (the poet Juvenal) Welcome to the 1st century AD, Pakistain.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/09/2013 2:11 Comments || Top||

#2  We no longer have to ask that question, at least at the Department of Justice levels.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/09/2013 2:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Oh wow, and here I thought the article was about the United States...

I think Peel's 7th Principle of policing applies: "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."
Posted by: Ptah || 07/09/2013 8:18 Comments || Top||



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