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2025-06-02 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Ukraine just rewrote the rules of war
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Posted by KBK 2025-06-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [414 views ]  Top

#1 One'd assume that, after 3 years of war, Americans (no matter how that specific individual hates/fears Russia) would learn to take Ukrainian success claims with a grain of salt.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-06-02 02:18||   2025-06-02 02:18|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm as skeptical of the author, Max Boot. Still a waste of oxygen.
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2025-06-02 03:47||   2025-06-02 03:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Nobody bets on a losing horse.
Posted by Besoeker 2025-06-02 06:16||   2025-06-02 06:16|| Front Page Top

#4 ...[cough] Kamala [cough]
Posted by Procopius2k 2025-06-02 07:21||   2025-06-02 07:21|| Front Page Top

#5 I stopped reading at the byline. Max Boot, ah ... nope
Posted by Chicago Lurker 2025-06-02 08:45||   2025-06-02 08:45|| Front Page Top

#6 The attack seems real enough with new video footage of Russian bombers in flames. Ukraine covertly infiltrated short ranged drones in civilian trucks next to Russian bases.

This is a wake-up call for anti-drone base defense.
Especially since the CCP has been buying up farmland next to American bases.
Posted by Difar Dave 2025-06-02 10:30||   2025-06-02 10:30|| Front Page Top

#7 I will admit I didn't read past the first paragraph. Some of you didn't read past the byline which I totally understand. I just don't see how the rules of war have changed. It seems pretty simple: Kill the other guy and destroy his stuff before he does it to you. The introduction of new weapons has never changed that.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2025-06-02 11:03||   2025-06-02 11:03|| Front Page Top

#8 Slick as pager battery bombs ...
Posted by Skidmark 2025-06-02 11:29||   2025-06-02 11:29|| Front Page Top

#9 I think of drones as long range stealth artillery.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2025-06-02 11:36||   2025-06-02 11:36|| Front Page Top

#10 Among James Kunstler's comments today:
You might recall a week ago, Chancellor Merz declared that Germany gave Ukraine “permission” to carry out long-range strikes into Russia. Smooth move, Friedrich. He is, apparently, unaware that in so-doing he automatically gave Russia permission to strike deep into Germany as well, which Russia has not yet done.

and also
All of this puts Mr. Trump in a bind. His efforts to negotiate peace are on-the-rocks for now, as is his (America’s) ability to control the maniac globalist warmongers of NATO. Many in the US, and Mr. Trump himself, make noises about backing off the big mess altogether and dissociating from a NATO alliance that has lost its purpose and meaning, becoming, in fact, a menace to our interests.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2025-06-02 11:43||   2025-06-02 11:43|| Front Page Top

#11 Many in the US, and Mr. Trump himself, make noises about backing off the big mess altogether and dissociating from a NATO alliance that has lost its purpose and meaning, becoming, in fact, a menace to our interests.

Ever since the USSR went kaput I thought the only reason for the US to stay involved with NATO is to keep the Germans from starting another war. Somebody needs to sit on those globalist war mongers before they do something we'll all regret.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2025-06-02 12:17||   2025-06-02 12:17|| Front Page Top

#12 Germany may become engaged with their own struggles.

More than a million Muslims in Germany with a 'migrant background' are at risk of being radicalised, study finds
Posted by Skidmark 2025-06-02 12:29||   2025-06-02 12:29|| Front Page Top

#13 SBU is more the spiritual successor to KGB than the FSB.
Posted by mossomo 2025-06-02 12:46||   2025-06-02 12:46|| Front Page Top

#14 CTH this morning:
"Zelensky’s Gauntlet – Did Ukraine Just Draw the USA and NATO Closer to War with Russia by Targeting Russian Strategic Long-Range Bombers Covered by SALT and START Treaties?

June 2, 2025 | Sundance | 724 Comments

First the cliff notes version: There’s an important detail to remember. People are laughing at the long-range Russian bombers being left out in the open, vulnerable to attack. However, the bomber visibility is required as part of several nuclear agreements between the USA and Russia (SALT and START). Our U.S. long range nuclear capable bombers, covered under the same agreements, are also visible. Ukraine President Zelenskyy is playing with fire by targeting them, which also explains why Zelenskyy never told President Trump in advance.

The U.S and NATO have provided the means. However, #1) did Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy just exploit a vulnerability by targeting Russian long-range nuclear capable bombers? and #2) was the CIA and NATO intelligence community a willfully blind participant knowing they would benefit?

Both the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT) and the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), call for U.S. and Russian long range nuclear capable bombers to remain “visible and observable by national technical means of verification.” That open visibility creates a mutual vulnerability as well as a method of surveillance and verification for both the USA and Russian Federation."...
:Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and by extension his NATO enablers, just exploited that SALT/START vulnerability and used drones to attack Russian bombers covered by USA-Russia treaties. There are reports (and videos) now surfacing from inside Russia showing the Russian Federation moving strategic long-range mobile missile launchers into position for a counterattack against Ukraine.

This situation is obviously very fluid and let us all hope that President Trump and President Putin are in communication about this escalation as created by Zelenskyy and his enablers, even if -and probably especially if- our own intelligence agencies are part of the enabling.

Think about the ramifications of NATO enabled Ukraine targeting major Russian military assets which are vulnerable only because they are part of a previously agreed U.S-Russia negotiation to remain vulnerable. In essence, an argument can be made by Russia that NATO -and by extension us- have targeted nuclear capable missile systems, and those systems were protected by the SALT/START treaties. How would we respond of an adversary launched a strike against our strategic long-range nuclear capable bombers in the USA?"
Posted by NoMoreBS 2025-06-02 14:04||   2025-06-02 14:04|| Front Page Top

#15 How would we respond of an adversary launched a strike against our strategic long-range nuclear capable bombers in the USA?

Could be somebody already did something that we'll all regret.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2025-06-02 14:13||   2025-06-02 14:13|| Front Page Top

#16 ^ could be why so many were moved to DG.

We plebs often cannot see beyond our rotor plane.
Posted by Skidmark 2025-06-02 14:54||   2025-06-02 14:54|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435 2025-06-02 15:51||   2025-06-02 15:51|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435 2025-06-02 15:52||   2025-06-02 15:52|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435 2025-06-02 15:55||   2025-06-02 15:55|| Front Page Top

#20 I read somewhere this week that the bombers had been removed from nuclear capability. If I can find I'll post.
Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2025-06-02 17:57||   2025-06-02 17:57|| Front Page Top

#21 With Reckless Attack, Ukrainians Hope to Drag USA into WWIII
Posted by Abu Uluque 2025-06-02 18:21||   2025-06-02 18:21|| Front Page Top

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