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2025-03-24 Government Corruption

Pentagon announces investigation into leaks, which could include polygraph tests

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Posted by Skidmark 2025-03-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11161 views ] Top

#1 FBI Director Patel shares how the agency is restoring trust

Posted by Skidmark 2025-03-24 01:16|| 2025-03-24 01:16|| Front Page Top

#2 How about a Poly as a condition of employment? Add to that Minnesota Multi Phase testing and a financial background check.

Posted by Besoeker 2025-03-24 06:06|| 2025-03-24 06:06|| Front Page Top

#3 Polygraph is junk science.

Posted by European Conservative 2025-03-24 06:54|| 2025-03-24 06:54|| Front Page Top

#4
While Poly's do work on the average Joe blow staffer.

But with that said, I have seen demo's & videos of people trained to lie their ass off, and the poly needle not bounce.

Now using Sodium Thiopental that's another story.

Check of JFK assignation investigated name:
Perry Russo and the application there.

Posted by NN2N1 2025-03-24 07:08|| 2025-03-24 07:08|| Front Page Top

#5 /\ Then taking a poly should not be an issue for anyone. More to it than an old-fashioned graph and needle.

Posted by Besoeker 2025-03-24 07:12|| 2025-03-24 07:12|| Front Page Top

#6 No, exactly because of that nobody should take a poly. Especially if you DON'T believe in it.

Posted by European Conservative 2025-03-24 07:21|| 2025-03-24 07:21|| Front Page Top

#7 Then don't work in a job that requires it. Simple

Posted by Frank G 2025-03-24 07:25|| 2025-03-24 07:25|| Front Page Top

#8 If you are in the intelligence community and you think that polygraphs work, then maybe you shouldn't be in the intelligence community.

Posted by European Conservative 2025-03-24 07:26|| 2025-03-24 07:26|| Front Page Top

#9 “Both for practical reasons and for mathematically verifiable moral reasons, authority and responsibility must be equal - else a balancing takes place as surely as current flows between points of unequal potential. To permit irresponsible authority is to sow disaster; to hold a man responsible for anything he does not control is to behave with blind idiocy." - Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers

Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-03-24 07:35|| 2025-03-24 07:35|| Front Page Top

#10 If the poly is totally ineffective, why have intelligence services invested so much time and effort into training people to defeat them ?

The polygraph is one of many tools available. Is it foolproof? Certainly not. Can it be an indicator of possible deception? I believe it can.

Posted by Besoeker 2025-03-24 07:41|| 2025-03-24 07:41|| Front Page Top

#11 And certified polygraphers don't grow on trees.

Posted by DooDahMan 2025-03-24 08:26|| 2025-03-24 08:26|| Front Page Top

#12 Besides, Aldrich Ames seemed to do o.k., for a little while, at least.

Posted by DooDahMan 2025-03-24 08:27|| 2025-03-24 08:27|| Front Page Top

#13 The Control Question Test has no scientiﬁc validity. It's not a scientiﬁc procedure. You might as well believe in astrology or tarot cards. Flipping a coin will also do.

Do the math: Let's say you need to test 1,000 employees to find one culprit. Let's assume that the polygraph is 95 percent valid (it isn't), then the one guilty person would be identiﬁed as deceptive but so would 50 innocent persons. This means the predictive validity would be about 2 percent.

Posted by European Conservative 2025-03-24 08:45|| 2025-03-24 08:45|| Front Page Top

#14 "Is today Monday?"

Posted by DooDahMan 2025-03-24 08:51|| 2025-03-24 08:51|| Front Page Top

#15 Seems to me an inaccurate test could be part of an investigation and the threat of it may discourage future leaks by amateur swampers.

Just tell him/her they failed and see what happens. Police on teevee lie all the time to get information to catch the bad guys...

Posted by Bobby 2025-03-24 09:25|| 2025-03-24 09:25|| Front Page Top

#16 "Just tell him/her they failed and see what happens."

That's what they often do. And it might fool a very gullible person.

The person who did this has probably already lawyered up.

Posted by European Conservative 2025-03-24 09:50|| 2025-03-24 09:50|| Front Page Top

#17 "Is today Monday?" would of course not be a control question.

Posted by European Conservative 2025-03-24 09:51|| 2025-03-24 09:51|| Front Page Top

#18 Sounds bitter, like someone lost to a poly.

Posted by Skidmark 2025-03-24 10:09|| 2025-03-24 10:09|| Front Page Top

#19 LOL no, we don't use this crap in Germany.

Posted by European Conservative 2025-03-24 10:14|| 2025-03-24 10:14|| Front Page Top

#20 /\ "Is today Monday?" would of course not be a control question.

Regardless of the question, your answer is "NO."

Posted by Besoeker 2025-03-24 10:23|| 2025-03-24 10:23|| Front Page Top

#21 They most restrictive clearance is a TS/SCI with a lifestyle polygraph. It is a really fucked up set of questions they asked and I had to go through it. Doing polygraphs for regular employees... may not work as well.

Posted by DarthVader 2025-03-24 16:27|| 2025-03-24 16:27|| Front Page Top

#22 Yeah, "have you ever broken someone's trust" stung.
They were happy I was only a sociopath.

Posted by Skidmark 2025-03-24 16:34|| 2025-03-24 16:34|| Front Page Top

#23 You cannot possibly be a sociopath, Skidmark, which speaks to the test and the testers. Only God Himself and some of His angels have never broken trust.

Posted by trailing wife 2025-03-24 17:36|| 2025-03-24 17:36|| Front Page Top

#24 #10 If the poly is totally ineffective, why have intelligence services invested so much time and effort into training people to defeat them ?

The polygraph is one of many tools available. Is it foolproof? Certainly not. Can it be an indicator of possible deception? I believe it can.
Posted by Besoeker

The primary purpose of a poly is to elicit a confession. All else is junk science as they say.

In regards to detection of deception - a skilled interviewer/interrogator is much better than a polygraph.

Posted by Tennessee 2025-03-24 18:06|| 2025-03-24 18:06|| Front Page Top

#25 "Is today Monday?" would of course not be a control question.

Sure, sure, of course not. How would you know?

Posted by DooDahMan 2025-03-24 20:50|| 2025-03-24 20:50|| Front Page Top

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