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2024-12-25 Science & Technology

On the problems of modernization of the Ticonderoga-class missile cruisers

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Posted by badanov 2024-12-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 ....Part of the problem is that we knowingly destroyed the US shipbuilding industry decades ago.

My dad worked for the old American Ship Building company in Lorain, OH (they had a second smaller yard in Toledo). In 1983, they had three drydocks, all big enough to handle anything that could get through the St Lawrence Seaway.

They also had a berserk union demanding more money for far less work (their last demand was a 20% raise and a 4-day week). They did NOT have USN contracts, because the Navy wouldn't give them to yards that didn't have 4 year contracts with their unions - the union said anything past 3 years was completely off the table.

And so AmShip went under, and they weren't alone. The only major building yards left are the ones with nonstop USN contracts, and they're overwhelmed by needed maintenance, much less any new construction. The surviving yards know they have the USN by the shorts, and they have zero incentive to fix it.

Mike

Posted by MikeKozlowski 2024-12-25 10:36|| 2024-12-25 10:36|| Front Page Top

#2 /\ Yes, ship building, shoes, clothing, electronics, and many others. A total betrayal.

Posted by Besoeker 2024-12-25 10:54|| 2024-12-25 10:54|| Front Page Top

#3 They also had a berserk union

Time well past when 30% of the union pension funds must be made up of the company they are employed by. You sink the company, you sink your pension fund.

Posted by Procopius2k 2024-12-25 11:40|| 2024-12-25 11:40|| Front Page Top

#4 34 years I spent in a shipyard we had up and down years but mostly up building Navy supply ships and commercial oil tankers. good mix plus repair on Navy ships, and had an effective trainee program for
maintaining labor needs.

Posted by crazyhorse 2024-12-25 18:40|| 2024-12-25 18:40|| Front Page Top

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