Article

2024-07-04 Science & Technology

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by badanov 2024-07-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 Can they build a cruiser?

Posted by Procopius2k 2024-07-04 07:54|| 2024-07-04 07:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Will The U.S. Navy Build New Cruisers?

...Nope. Maybe they could do a stretched Burke, but they still couldn't bring it in for any reasonable amount of money or in any reasonable amount of time.

Mike

Posted by MikeKozlowski 2024-07-04 08:08|| 2024-07-04 08:08|| Front Page Top

#3 The sailors needed to man any new US naval ship construction have not yet been born.

Posted by Besoeker 2024-07-04 08:11|| 2024-07-04 08:11|| Front Page Top

#4 The Burke class destroyers are very nearly cruisers. In fact, the Navy stretched the Burke design to make the Tico cruisers, which subsequently made them (Ticos) top heavy and difficult to maneuver. That's why they didn't build many.
The current motto seems to be "bigger, shinier, with less crew".
They've even managed to screw up the Fincanteri frigates being built in Wisconsin, when at least three Euro yards were able to build them successfully.
At this point I hope they don't even try.

Posted by ed in texas 2024-07-04 08:20|| 2024-07-04 08:20|| Front Page Top

#5 Ed, they didn't stretch the Burke to build Ticos. The Ticos have virtually the same hull and engineering plant as the long lamented Spruance destoyers. I remember seeing the first Spruance class come into San Diego. The Spruance class was commissioned starting in 1975 and the Ticos in 1983.

Posted by Enver tse Tung8249 2024-07-04 09:09|| 2024-07-04 09:09|| Front Page Top

#6 I stand corrected. I knew it was a stretched destroyer hull. My apologies.

Posted by ed in texas 2024-07-04 11:04|| 2024-07-04 11:04|| Front Page Top

#7 With the GWOT they thought they didn't need them anymore and stopped building and designing them. Now the Navy sees they are really close to a large, classic naval battle and realize they don't have them and are scrambling to get them designed and built. First one should be online in 2036 after we lose several others in a battle.

We are in the classic Axis/Japanese position where we have a large and powerful Navy and no way to replace it.

Posted by DarthVader 2024-07-04 12:03|| 2024-07-04 12:03|| Front Page Top

#8 Where is Jackie Fisher when you really need him?

Posted by borgboy 2024-07-04 14:09|| 2024-07-04 14:09|| Front Page Top

#9 IMO the navy should abandon surface ships and concentrate on un-crewed submersibles. would still need surface vessels for support. nuclear fail safe is an imperative.

Posted by irish rage boy 2024-07-04 14:34|| 2024-07-04 14:34|| Front Page Top

#10 really close to a large, classic naval battle

Orbital bombardment.
Ever throw stones into a pond?

Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-04 15:57|| 2024-07-04 15:57|| Front Page Top

#11 "Today something wrong," cries big bruiser,
"With shiny 10,000 ton cruiser,"
As that of his foe,
Launched mere moments ago,
Drops a deuce. Cue live coverage of newser.

Air piracy on the high seas!

Posted by Pancho Poodle8452 2024-07-04 17:24|| 2024-07-04 17:24|| Front Page Top

23:51 Ululating Platypus
23:28 Cured Romantic
23:19 ACA JOE
22:40 Silentbrick
21:01 Whavick Scourge of the Apes9857
20:27 trailing wife
20:03 trailing wife
19:55 Jack Salami
18:46 Frank G
18:32 Procopius2k
18:32 Mullah Richard
17:24 Pancho Poodle8452
17:00 Besoeker
16:42 Besoeker
16:35 alanc
16:29 Bugs+Mussolini3055
16:28 alanc
16:03 Skidmark
15:57 Skidmark
15:50 Bangkok Billy
15:45 Skidmark
15:43 Skidmark
15:38 Airandee
15:37 Grom the Reflective