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2023-11-29 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Insider accounts of what went wrong in IDF intel before Oct. 7 - analysis

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Posted by Skidmark 2023-11-29 01:45|| || Front Page|| [22 views ] Top

#1 Military Intelligence Directorate head to resign due to Oct. 7 massacre, takes responsibility

Posted by Skidmark 2023-11-29 01:47|| 2023-11-29 01:47|| Front Page Top

#2 /\ Security officials privy to the details of the intelligence emphasized that in no way was there mention of a strategic alert for war, a widespread offensive on multiple fronts, or an intention to penetrate multiple settlements simultaneously.

Warnings & Indications ignored. Signals, Imagery, Human intelligence reporting (other non-IS intelligence reporting).... where were they ?

Posted by Besoeker 2023-11-29 05:12|| 2023-11-29 05:12|| Front Page Top

#3 If I had to guess, imagery is useless agasint massive subterranean logistics and support systems, intercepts useless against paper and courier transmissions, complex information exchanges through air-gapped electronics via physical delivery, and alert fatigue for HUMINT sources through endless monitoring of Hamas/Hexbollah activities/leadership and media/electronic/OSINT systems. Tough to I&W above ground invasion preps when it is nothing more tangible and cars and motorcycles in the dense urban chaos of Gaza.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2023-11-29 13:38|| 2023-11-29 13:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Could it be that the officials who were supposed to be keeping track of warning signals were too busy demonstrating against the Netanyahu government and the prospects of reforming the all-powerful leftist dominated Supreme Court to bother with such trivia?
Hamas must have thought the left-right conflict in Israel which brought furious demonstrations by the left, was more serious than it was. It targeted left wingers in kibbutzes and peace rallies, perhpas thinking Netanyahu wouldn't mind.
Hamas was wrong.
Or perhaps Hamas believed that all those reservists who swore they wouldn't fight for Israel as long as Netanyahu was in power really meant it.
They didn't.

Posted by By now 2023-11-29 14:08|| 2023-11-29 14:08|| Front Page Top

#5 Easy for me to armchair quarterback from thousands of miles away, but the Center For Lessons learned at Leavenworth must be burning some midnight oil.

Posted by Besoeker 2023-11-29 14:18|| 2023-11-29 14:18|| Front Page Top

#6 Could it be that the officials who were supposed to be keeping track of warning signals were too busy demonstrating against the Netanyahu government and the prospects of reforming the all-powerful leftist dominated Supreme Court to bother with such trivia?

I think that must be at least part of the problem, too, By now. In which the case the head ought indeed to take responsibility.

Posted by trailing wife 2023-11-29 17:58|| 2023-11-29 17:58|| Front Page Top

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