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2023-08-17 Home Front: Politix

Biden offers contemptible $700 per household for survivors of Maui wildfires

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Posted by Skidmark 2023-08-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11136 views ] Top

#1 GoFundMe fundraisers for Maui wildfires draw over $30 million in contributions

FOX Corporation launches donation drive for American Red Cross Hawaiian wildfires relief

Posted by Skidmark 2023-08-16 16:02|| 2023-08-16 16:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Maui wildfires prompt Airbnb nonprofit to open homes to displaced locals

Billionaire Jeff Bezos and fiancée Lauren Sánchez to donate $100M to Hawaii wildfires relief fund

Posted by Skidmark 2023-08-16 16:08|| 2023-08-16 16:08|| Front Page Top

#3 Biden Finally Speaks on Hawaii and Botches It Badly

Posted by Skidmark 2023-08-17 08:51|| 2023-08-17 08:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Backgrounds of Maui Officials Who Failed During Devastating Fire Are Scandalous

Defiant Maui emergency leader, who has no experience in crisis management, says activating the island's emergency sirens would have saved NO ONE - as fears grow majority of dead were children left home alone with schools closed

Posted by Skidmark 2023-08-17 08:57|| 2023-08-17 08:57|| Front Page Top

#5 They should claim Ukrainian citizenship.

Posted by Super Hose 2023-08-17 09:03|| 2023-08-17 09:03|| Front Page Top

#6 I hope the go fund me money is going to the local people and not the government agencies 'helping' them
I agree with Pan,
Hearing many locals reporting on Twitter/X how they aren't getting any help, FEMA turning many away or not seeing helicopters bringing in supplies is quite different from what the news is reporting.
Offers coming in to BUY their land rather than help them REBUILD?

Posted by Jan 2023-08-17 10:54|| 2023-08-17 10:54|| Front Page Top

#7 Woke Hawaiian Official Stalled Release Of 'Revered Water' Until It Was Too Late To Save Maui. Spoiler alert: Obama tie-in.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-08-17 10:59|| 2023-08-17 10:59|| Front Page Top

#8 as fears grow majority of dead were children left home alone with schools closed

Was afraid that would be true.

'Had we sounded the siren that night, we're afraid that people would have gotten mauka [toward the mountains] and if that was the case, then they would have gone into the fire,' he said.

You fucking dog, hiding behind your words. It is what you say when you consider individuals to be a group of automatons. That people would go outside, see the fire, and run into it because that is what you expect of them. Take a seat you curr.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-08-17 13:25|| 2023-08-17 13:25|| Front Page Top

#9 And if you missed it yesterday, the 'tin foil' I came across said prepare for 500+. Largely children.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-08-17 13:26|| 2023-08-17 13:26|| Front Page Top

#10 Actually it's only $630...

Posted by European Conservative 2023-08-17 16:59|| 2023-08-17 16:59|| Front Page Top

#11 If only they had a student loan problem instead of a natural disaster, I'm sure Biden would have been more generous.

Posted by Angstrom 2023-08-17 17:02|| 2023-08-17 17:02|| Front Page Top

#12 Hey look, all this discussion about whose fault it was, which government agency screwed up, what Biden did or didn't do, is all moot.
Face it, the entire disaster is all Trump's fault. He should be indicted for that. /sarcasm

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2023-08-17 17:17|| 2023-08-17 17:17|| Front Page Top

#13 That people would go outside, see the fire, and run into it because that is what you expect of them. Take a seat you curr.

I live in upcountry Maui, and the cur is right.

You set off the sirens. People know that usually means a long lead time until arrival of the tsunami. They will probably not just start running. They'll pack a few things, get in their cars, and try to get to higher ground. Then they see the fire ahead of them. But now you have a traffic jam of people who are all headed toward the fire.

Sirens are a low-information warning, good for alerting to a threat with a known source and requiring a known action. When there's a tsunami warning the threat comes from the ocean; get away from it. A tornado warning means a threat comes from the sky; get indoors to shelter. A fire warning means...what? Which way is the fire? If you already know there's a fire, you don't need the siren to tell you.

This is not to argue for the competence of any officials, but he is right about this one.

Posted by Cochiti 2023-08-17 19:18|| 2023-08-17 19:18|| Front Page Top

#14 The fire came within 3 miles of me. I only found that out later, and was astounded; I would have thought the wind would carry it in a different direction. I was without phone service of any kind for several hours on the 9th -- no landline, no cell. My internet was down for almost a week. (The horror, the horror!)

If the tsunami sirens had sounded on the 9th -- I live above 3000 ft, but we have a tsunami siren -- it wouldn't have occurred to me to connect it to the fire. I would have thought, "All this, and a tsunami too??"

Posted by Cochiti 2023-08-17 19:30|| 2023-08-17 19:30|| Front Page Top

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