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2023-07-08 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Vilnius NATO summit will likely be a flop

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Posted by Abu Uluque 2023-07-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [17 views ] Top

#1 NATO flexes muscle to protect Vilnius summit near Russia, Belarus

Posted by Skidmark 2023-07-08 06:50|| 2023-07-08 06:50|| Front Page Top

#2 NATO is weak. Come join us so that we can be weaker still.

Posted by Super Hose 2023-07-08 08:27|| 2023-07-08 08:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Ukraine is pushing for either immediate NATO membership or actionable security guarantees from NATO.

Is there some reason we could not do security guarantees *before* the war started? Suppose a deal-making President had said to the Russians, "We get it. Foreign troops on the border make you twitchy, so we will keep Ukraine demilitarized. But the instant even the shadow of Russian tank falls on Ukraine, WWIII is on, bitches. Do we have a deal?"

Best Case: No war, no ruined cities, a quarter million people are still alive, the world economy is not trashed and Ukraine goes on grifting happily ever after.
Worst Case: The Russians are jerks and we get war in the Ukraine, just like now except we can stop pretending we are not involved and do something about it.

Posted by SteveS 2023-07-08 09:33|| 2023-07-08 09:33|| Front Page Top

#4 "NATO flexes muscle". Now that's funny!

Posted by DooDahMan 2023-07-08 09:43|| 2023-07-08 09:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Is there some reason we could not do security guarantees *before* the war started?

Trump did. While at a conference with Putin and Xi, a reporter asked what would he do if Putin invaded the Ukraine. Trump said he'd nuke Moscow. They couldn't be sure he would or wouldn't. Unfortunately for the people of the Ukraine, their ruling caste went with the Biden cartel.

Posted by Procopius2k 2023-07-08 17:55|| 2023-07-08 17:55|| Front Page Top

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