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2023-02-03 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
20% of Ukraine in exchange for peace
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Posted by badanov 2023-02-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [15 views ]  Top

#1 White House Denies Joe Biden Offered to Give Ukrainian Territory to Putin

Thank you for playing, Switzerland. Have any Swiss businesses left Russia yet?
Posted by Flaish Sinatra7305 2023-02-03 00:31||   2023-02-03 00:31|| Front Page Top

#2 Switzerland has a time honored connection with Soviet spycraft, Bern being one of the areas used by the Red Orchestra, the Soviet spy ring during WWII.
Posted by badanov 2023-02-03 03:56||   2023-02-03 03:56|| Front Page Top

#3 If true, that is enough to piss everyone off. Not enough for Russia and too much for Ukraine.
Posted by DarthVader 2023-02-03 09:51||   2023-02-03 09:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Make them a better deal. The Straits, Constantinople, and European Turkey.

Think of it as Trunks and Donks in the Swamp negotiating how the skin the taxpayers. The effected third party gets no say in the matter.
Posted by Procopius2k 2023-02-03 10:19||   2023-02-03 10:19|| Front Page Top

#5 I saw somewhere that Switzerland was a battleground selection for Spy vs. Spy, and dirty deeds got a pass so long as it looked natural and didn't upset the locals.

Not sure how true that is/was.
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-02-03 10:39||   2023-02-03 10:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Fake proposal;
Posted by Dale 2023-02-03 10:47||   2023-02-03 10:47|| Front Page Top

#7 Meanwhile pissing off everybody. "Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto issued a scathing rebuke of the US ambassador to Budapest on Thursday, asserting that he has no business meddling in the nation’s internal affairs." After the Minsk agreements sham the Wests credibility is gone. It will be on Russia's terms as the Red line has been crossed. The West and Soros desperately need the cash cow alive and well sending money. Everything and anything will be done to make that happen. So any compromise will be considered by Biden's West. They want to move on to China for next episode. Stay tuned.
Posted by Dale 2023-02-03 11:02||   2023-02-03 11:02|| Front Page Top

#8 "...Sullivan and CIA chief Burns. They wanted to end the war quickly so they could focus on China."

China is currently destroying itself with its Covid management and industrial corruption. Better off leaving it alone for a while. The weapons that Taiwan needs are different than what Ukraine needs.

Posted by lord garth 2023-02-03 14:39||   2023-02-03 14:39|| Front Page Top

#9 ^Japan is also destroying itself. The English would call Biden a blaggard in a political sense of the word.
Posted by Dale 2023-02-03 16:16||   2023-02-03 16:16|| Front Page Top

#10 I think you mean blackguard. A great old word.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2023-02-03 16:30||   2023-02-03 16:30|| Front Page Top

#11 blaggard in English dictionary was my source but heard Tom Baker use the word in an old Dr. Who episode.
Posted by Dale 2023-02-03 17:55||   2023-02-03 17:55|| Front Page Top

#12 As in gambling. The loser stays on and spends what he or she doesn't have. They can't walk away. Ukraine can only lose.
Posted by Dale 2023-02-03 18:07||   2023-02-03 18:07|| Front Page Top

#13 Da Comrade. Whatever the "source"
Posted by Frank G 2023-02-03 18:52||   2023-02-03 18:52|| Front Page Top

#14 A source is a source, of course, of course,
But no one should talk to a source, of course,
That is, of course, unless the source is the blameless Mr. Red!

Still like Dale, even if he has kinda totally gone Telefon lately.
Posted by Alistaire Tojo1433 2023-02-03 19:58||   2023-02-03 19:58|| Front Page Top

#15 It's Herb branching out as Fat Bob that's driving me nuts.
Posted by Alistaire Tojo1433 2023-02-03 20:02||   2023-02-03 20:02|| Front Page Top

#16 After the Minsk agreements sham the Wests credibility is gone.

It did not seem to get any play in US media, but around 7-Dec, Frau Merkel gave an interview with a German newspaper where she outright admitted that there was no intention of living up the Mink agreement and the only purpose was to buy time for Ukraine to build up. Seems a bit on the duplicitous side, but we are playing the Great Game, right?

The problem now is the Russians are not going to buy into any negotiated settlement. They will quit when they have a secure defensive position against NATO. I'm guessing the means Ukraine east of the Dieper river.
Posted by SteveS 2023-02-03 20:13||   2023-02-03 20:13|| Front Page Top

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