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Trump Ally Mike Flynn Attacks Ukraine's Zelensky: 'Dangerous Fool'
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Posted by Penguin_of_the_Desert 2022-10-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ]  Top

#1 Look at how hard Newsweek works to discredit Flynn before ever getting around to telling his side of the story.

1984's Ministry of Truth could do no better. Journalists truly are the enemy of the people.
Posted by Spike the Hairy6811 2022-10-10 01:35||   2022-10-10 01:35|| Front Page Top

#2 General Flynn’s preferences are long known. Why is Newsweek fanning flames about it now?

It’s part of the massive wave of bullshit that’s now rolling across the US and UK media. In reality, Zelensky and his entourage are losing their grip because they’re terrified. They know that opinion is turning against them in the West. They’ve been playing Washington like a violin, and they can see that the new GOP majority will end their grift after November.

Future Ukraine Aid May Hinge on Control of Congress in 2023
VOA
October 04, 2022 6:48 PM

We got a glimpse of this fear in the hysterical reaction of Zelensky and that Banderite Nazi-lover, Melnyk, to Musk’s peace proposal. Trump is calling for peace, Musk is calling for peace, GOP senators like Sasser of Tennessee and Hawley of Missouri are publicly saying no more aid to Ukrainian thieves. The Germans are shifting against the war. Public opinion is moving the same way all over Europe.

The gravy train is coming to an end. This is why the little man in the T-shirt is now squealing like a stuck pig and saying crazy shit like calling for his sugar daddy to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack on Russia. In four weeks the Republicans will control Congress and start winding down US aid. Can’t happen too soon.
Posted by Palermo 2022-10-10 08:25||   2022-10-10 08:25|| Front Page Top

#3 Correction: Sen. Hagerty of Tennessee. The Trump wing of the Party will bring in dozens of new Congressmen who are determined to stop the Ukrainian slush fund and use those billions to defend our own border.

Musk’s tweets and Trump’s calls for peace were the just the shots across the bow.
Posted by Palermo 2022-10-10 08:31||   2022-10-10 08:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Just stay out of it.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-10 08:33||   2022-10-10 08:33|| Front Page Top

#5 The Dangerous Fool is the man who order the invasion of a sovereign neighboring country in February.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-10-10 08:43||   2022-10-10 08:43|| Front Page Top

#6 #4 Just stay out of it.

That is exactly what Trump is recommending. Ditto for JD Vance and the other Trump-endorsed candidates.

The talk in Washington is all about how Biden & Co. will have to pivot and move on after the GOP takes over Congress on November 8. The knives are out for Nuland. Sullivan may also be on his way out.

No one can even identify any vital interest in that shitty country, let alone explain why it should take precedence over China and all the catastrophes we’re facing now — stagflation, the collapse of the border, the collapse of Europe and with it the end of German support for NATO, etc etc.
Posted by Billy B 2022-10-10 09:08||   2022-10-10 09:08|| Front Page Top

#7 The most dangerous fool is the man in the White House who ordered NATO to invade Eastern Europe.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-10 12:05||   2022-10-10 12:05|| Front Page Top

#8 What was Putin supposed to do? Knuckle under and let those Tomahawk missiles with nuclear warheads be deployed on Ukraine's border with Russia? How did you feel when Khrushchev tried that in Cuba?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-10 12:10||   2022-10-10 12:10|| Front Page Top

#9 Wow Abu. Your recall of facts is as lacking as Joe Biden w/o a teleprompter.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-10 12:10||   2022-10-10 12:10|| Front Page Top

#10 Maybe you can help me out, Snash. Who was it last year who was insisting that NATO would expand into Ukraine? I was pretty sure it was Joe. What am I missing?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-10 12:31||   2022-10-10 12:31|| Front Page Top

#11 Just stay out of it.

Tough to stay out of it when Biden hits us up for $100 billion and counting to pay for his invasion of Ukraine.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-10 12:38||   2022-10-10 12:38|| Front Page Top

#12 Does anybody here remember the Cuban missile crisis? Anybody? I think Kennedy had a much stronger hand to play when that happened than Putin does now. Kennedy had the US Navy and undisputed control of the Atlantic Ocean. But Putin has a third rate army whose soldiers are currently getting their asses kicked. How was he going to restore the Soviet Union with that ragtag bunch of losers? You seriously believe he wanted this war? He's 70 years old. He's not Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, Napoleon or Hitler. He's an old man. He knows better.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-10 12:44||   2022-10-10 12:44|| Front Page Top

#13 Biden is an old man too but, as we all know, he doesn't even know how to tie his shoes.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-10 12:46||   2022-10-10 12:46|| Front Page Top

#14 Ukraine will join NATO, just as Ukraine will join the EU. It is now a given, while in January of this year it was a pipe dream that the western Euros would never allow as long as they were smoking the Russian pipe. Thank your Uncle Vlad for that.

As for NATO invading eastern Europe, can you describe the order of battle, the route taken and the enemy units smashed? I must have slept through that. Or are you thinking of 1956 and 1968? Maybe you need to go further to 1939 and 1940? Perhaps close calls like in 1948, 1956 and 1962?
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-10 12:49||   2022-10-10 12:49|| Front Page Top

#15 You seriously believe he wanted this war?

Are you nuts? Who gave the order to invade? Who invaded who, under the mistaken impression the Ukrainians would welcome the Russians with flowers and pastries?

Putin is attempting to resemble the Soviet Union and probably the old Warsaw Pact. He won't stop if he is successful in Ukraine. Lukashenka already exposed the battle map where, in the next stage, the Russians invade Moldova. Then it will be Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Then the Stans. Then Poland, ... Where are do you draw the line? Do you have a line?

Putin is an aging fossil that needs to become extinct.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-10 12:58||   2022-10-10 12:58|| Front Page Top

#16 Yeah, they're going right through Ukraine, the exact same way that all would be conquerors from Western Europe have always invaded. Order of battle? HIMARS, Javelins, satellites for battlefield intel and targeting. One hundred billion dollars worth of sophisticated military hardware. One hundred billion and counting. Putin had to know he could never match that.

What? You think Zelensky's boys are doing that all by themselves? LOL.

I have to go to work now, Snash. It's been nice having this little conversation with you.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-10 13:00||   2022-10-10 13:00|| Front Page Top

#17 BLUF: There is no way in hell this can be viewed as a Putin success story.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-10 13:12||   2022-10-10 13:12|| Front Page Top

#18 One hundred billion dollars worth of sophisticated military hardware.

About $17.5 billion military aid, some of which won't be delivered for another 3 years. But I feel like I am haggling with you, like a prostitute, only for the freedom of 44 million people. Is your logic as flawed as your math?

Since money seems more important to you than freedom, should the USA have spent trillions during the Cold War? Would you rather have the Russians and Chinese in Canada and Mexico and saved a few dollars?

Yeah, they're going right through Ukraine

You're as confused as Joe Biden on an Aderall free day. You said the USA invaded Eastern Europe. I asked how. Then you come back with some Russian fantasy novel of how heroic, and shirtless, Ramboskis are slicing through a hapless Ukraine despite evil HiMars and Javelins. Got news for you, Russia is stuck in a briar patch and the Ukrainians are tearing the Russian army a new one and taking back their land. God willing, with increase US and European aid and intel, they will retake all invaded lands soon.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-10 13:27||   2022-10-10 13:27|| Front Page Top

#19 Well, he’s split America into two warring camps, discredited America as a global leader, brought down four western governments, destroyed Ukraine beyond recognition and cemented his control over Crimea and the Eastern land bridge. Not bad for just seven months.
Posted by Palermo  2022-10-10 13:42||   2022-10-10 13:42|| Front Page Top

#20 You mistake debate for discord. It happens all the time for people who are stuck in totalitarian regimes.

Russia is isolated for at least the next 2 generations. They are lsing ground on the battlefield. Production is being strangled and they can't replace the weapons and young men they waste. If that is "not bad", I'd hate to see "worse".
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-10 13:49||   2022-10-10 13:49|| Front Page Top

#21 “Debate,” lol

“Discord” isn’t strong enough, either. The cold war in America now is between the Woke liberal globalists and the America First patriots.

There is no debate because the Woke globalists have used their near-total control in the institutions of the Deep State, the media and Big Tech and its censors to suppress, bully and harass dissenting voices.

They are using every means short of F-15s against America First patriots — and their demented shithead of a POTUS has even hinted at using those as well.
Posted by Chaim 2022-10-10 14:31||   2022-10-10 14:31|| Front Page Top

#22 Off the "silly old Cold Warriors" pile from a few days back...

Their red, wrinkled buttocks are blistery,
But still they persist! 'Tis a mystery
Why starry-eyed chekists
From Brest to Uzbekistan
Seek to make Soviet history.
Posted by Daffy the Obscure6560 2022-10-10 15:34||   2022-10-10 15:34|| Front Page Top

#23 Seek Strive. And a very happy Double Ten Day to all.
Posted by Daffy the Obscure6560 2022-10-10 15:44||   2022-10-10 15:44|| Front Page Top

#24 #20 I remember a lot of recent articles about a demographics crisis in Russia. Losing a lot of military age men will not be helpful.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-10-10 17:09||   2022-10-10 17:09|| Front Page Top

#25 And a very happy Double Ten Day to all.

And to you! Here in America, it is also Indigenous Genocide Day. Let's all sing:

In fourteen hundred and ninety three,
Columbus sailed the deep blue sea,
Saving the natives from savagery,
And bringing them MTV.
Posted by SteveS 2022-10-10 17:13||   2022-10-10 17:13|| Front Page Top

#26 In fourteen hundred ninety-four
Dat Genovese bastid made us poor,
So hide inside and lock your door,
For Kitty G.'s a racist -----.
Posted by Daffy the Obscure6560 2022-10-10 18:06||   2022-10-10 18:06|| Front Page Top

#27 I've observed 10/10 as Gamble Rogers Day. Double 10 is a new one - I'll need to work that in... minus the Stinky Tofu.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2022-10-10 18:10||   2022-10-10 18:10|| Front Page Top

#28 #20 is missing some important modifiers. Try
“Oil production is being strangled in America and industrial production is being strangled in Germany and they the Deep State can't replace the Pentagon’s weapons but they can and will replace with illegals the young white American men they waste.”

FIFY
Posted by Chaim 2022-10-10 18:15||   2022-10-10 18:15|| Front Page Top

#29 Then you come back with some Russian fantasy novel of how heroic, and shirtless, Ramboskis are slicing through a hapless Ukraine despite evil HiMars and Javelins.

I don't recall saying anything at all like that. Check out #12 where I said the following:

But Putin has a third rate army whose soldiers are currently getting their asses kicked. How was he going to restore the Soviet Union with that ragtag bunch of losers? You seriously believe he wanted this war?

I think the problem is not my memory but that you are misrepresenting what other people say. It's a piss poor debate strategy but if you need to avoid the truth I suppose it's all you have.

If I accused you in the past of being Ukrainian I believe now I was mistaken. You sound more like a Democrat. An old school LBJ, Bill Clinton, Baraq Obama, Joe Biden type Democrat attempting to justify with lies what cannot be justified with truth.

You never answer any of the questions I pose. You only spout more bullshit. Answer me this one question: Where does this little war of yours stop?

Hitler told Stalin he would stop at Poland and Stalin believed him. Right now Putin appears to be losing this war. You may be right about one thing. It may well be a done deal that Ukraine will join NATO and the EU, albeit at gunpoint and never mind that a lot of Europeans are wondering if they made a mistake getting involved in the EU. But at least Putin knows better than to believe Joe Biden.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-10 18:34||   2022-10-10 18:34|| Front Page Top

#30  Tough to stay out of it when Biden hits us up for $100 billion and counting to pay for his invasion of Ukraine

Don’t forget 10% for The Big Guy.
Plus hookers & blow for The Little One.
Posted by Billy B 2022-10-10 19:24||   2022-10-10 19:24|| Front Page Top

#31 Abu, you wrote

Yeah, they're going right through Ukraine, the exact same way that all would be conquerors from Western Europe have always invaded.

and

The most dangerous fool is the man in the White House who ordered NATO to invade Eastern Europe.


Those are false staements. Also false is

What was Putin supposed to do? Knuckle under and let those Tomahawk missiles with nuclear warheads be deployed on Ukraine's border with Russia?

Though I attribute this to your ignorance. There are no nuclear Tomahawks anywhere. Not even in the US inventory. They have been retired. There are a hundred nuclear B-61 gravity bombs under shared custody with several NATO members. There are no nuclear weapons in eastern Europe, though the Poles want them after what are the Russians are doing in Ukraine. Also, the INF treaty was dissolved due to blatant cheating on the part of Putin's Russia.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-10 23:21||   2022-10-10 23:21|| Front Page Top

#32 If I accused you in the past of being Ukrainian I believe now I was mistaken. You sound more like a Democrat. An old school LBJ, Bill Clinton, Baraq Obama, Joe Biden type Democrat attempting to justify with lies what cannot be justified with truth.

I'll take the Ukrainian as a complement, though I have not a drop. I see you as scared fool who will let a KBG thug conquer, murder and commit genocide as long as he waves his nuclear prick about.

You never answer any of the questions I pose. You only spout more bullshit. Answer me this one question: Where does this little war of yours stop?

It stops in Ukraine, when the Russians are thrown out. Back at you. Is there anywhere you would stop Putin?

Hitler told Stalin he would stop at Poland and Stalin believed him.

And you believe Putin? Let Putin have his way in Ukraine and that will be the end of it. Honest Hitler.

NATO and EU do not take in members at gunpoint. You are confusing them with the Warsaw Pact.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-10 23:33||   2022-10-10 23:33|| Front Page Top

#33 as long as he waves his nuclear prick about

Better a nuclear prick than a dwarf comedian’s tiny piano-playing prick:

IDIOCRACY: VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY PLAYING PIANO WITH HIS PEN!S
Posted by Slolush Guelph4787 2022-10-10 23:42||   2022-10-10 23:42|| Front Page Top

#34 Right. And you think the magician really saws the lady in half. Dummy.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-10 23:56||   2022-10-10 23:56|| Front Page Top

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