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2022-10-05 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
As it becomes clear that Russia is losing its war of imperial conquest in Ukraine, Kremlin propagandists are pushing a completely groundless narrative accusing the West of seeking to conquer and enslave Russia
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Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ]  Top

#1 I'd expect the real trolls to be too distracted by the internal quarrels between the true-Putinists, the Telegram warriors, the lesser siloviki, the digital veterans, and the Slavo-Kodoha extremists.
Posted by Mitch H.  2022-10-05 00:22||   2022-10-05 00:22|| Front Page Top

#2 The West has never conquered what is termed as Russia. That was done by what the Chinese call their Yuan dynasty.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-10-05 08:07||   2022-10-05 08:07|| Front Page Top

#3 Speaking of trolls, remember how they were crowing about doing away with the US dollar. My, my.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-10-05 09:08||   2022-10-05 09:08|| Front Page Top

#4 Enslave Russia makes me think of:

Western, white male looking for female Slavic slave.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-05 09:15||   2022-10-05 09:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Speaking of fools, remember how they were crowing about turning the ruble into “rubble.” My, my:

USD:RUB
Feb. 24, 2022: $84.95
Oct. 4, 2022: $57.00

Decline in dollar / Improvement in ruble’s value relative to US$ since Feb.24: +32%
Posted by Woody 2022-10-05 09:37||   2022-10-05 09:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Look out, below!

Official says White House is 'panicking' over oil prices

The White House has launched a last-ditch effort to dissuade Middle Eastern allies from dramatically cutting oil production at an OPEC+ meeting. CNN’s Alex Marquardt reports.
Posted by Woody 2022-10-05 09:39||   2022-10-05 09:39|| Front Page Top

#7 For the ignorant: soaring oil prices — as we will now see, as soon as OPEC announces today they will slash production by 1 million barrels (despite Biden’s ass-licking of the Saudi king) — soaring oil price will eventually lead to a declining dollar and an increase in the value of the ruble, the dinar and all the other currencies of the oil rich states.
Posted by Woody 2022-10-05 09:44||   2022-10-05 09:44|| Front Page Top

#8 The bullshit is so thick that even reliable globalists like the rockstar economist Jeffrey Sachs are calling out the Biden people’s absurd lies.

Jeffrey Sachs: Rest Of The World Thinks The U.S. Probably Sabotaged The Nord Stream Pipeline, But It Doesn't Show Up In Our Media
Tim Hains
Realclearpolitics.com
October 3, 2022

Columbia University economist Jeffrey Sachs on Monday suggested that the U.S. and Poland are probably behind the destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline.

"A lot of the world is watching these events in horror," Sachs said. "They view this as a horrible clash between Russia and the U.S. They don't see this, as we do in the media, as an unprovoked attack by Russia on Ukraine."

"Most of the world doesn't see it the way we describe it. Most of the world is just terrified right now, frankly," he added.

Posted by Pholunter 2022-10-05 10:00||   2022-10-05 10:00|| Front Page Top

#9 If you’ve lost Jeffrey Sachs, you’ve lost the globalist crowd. Nobody believes Biden’s bullshit anymore. Now even their allies are speaking out against the madness of dragging us toward nuclear war with Russia.

Jeffrey Sachs goes on to speak inconvenient truths to the Bloomberg newshound:

JEFFREY SACHS: "The European economy is getting hammered by the sudden cutoff of energy. And now to make it definitive, the destruction of the Nord Stream Pipeline (which I would bet was a U.S. action, perhaps U.S. and Poland). That is speculation."

I know it runs counter to our narrative, you're not allowed to say these things in the West, but the fact of the matter is all over the world when I talk to people, they think the U.S. did it. Even reporters on our papers that are involved tell me 'of course' [the U.S. did it], but it doesn't show up in our media."

“I was attacked in The Atlantic for being on the side of peace. And I confess, I'm on the side of peace. I'm very worried we are on the path of escalation to nuclear war, nothing less than that.

“Russia feels that this war is at the core of its security interests. The United States insists it will do anything to support Ukraine's defeat of Russia. Russia views this as a proxy war with the United States. Whatever one thinks about this, this is the path of extraordinary, dangerous escalation.

“A lot of the world is watching these events in horror, and a lot of the world doesn't like this NATO expansion, which they interpret as at the core of this. They want to see a compromise between the U.S. and Russia.

“In vote after vote at the United Nations, basically, it has been the Western countries that have been voting for sanctions and denunciations and other actions. Whereas most of the world, certainly most of the world counted by population, is on the sidelines. They view this as a horrible clash between Russia and the U.S. They don't see this, as we do in the media, as an unprovoked attack by Russia on Ukraine.

Anyone in the U.S. thinks, "well, what else is it?" But that is because of the way our media has been reporting this. This conflict goes back a long time, it didn't start on February 24, 2022. In fact, the war itself started in 2014, not 2022. and even that had antecedents.

“Most of the world doesn't see it the way we describe it. Most of the world is just terrified right now, frankly.

It is unbelievable to be hearing on one side that they will use nuclear weapons if they have to, while the other side says, "You can't frighten us."
Posted by Pholunter 2022-10-05 10:07||   2022-10-05 10:07|| Front Page Top

#10 Russians gassed, tortured and killed hubdreds in Kharkiv to extract gold and others valuables enmasse,
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-05 10:09||   2022-10-05 10:09|| Front Page Top

#11 They're back
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-10-05 10:13||   2022-10-05 10:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Ukrainian Lil’ Rambo returns, with more Armageddon-spam.

What’s a hubdred, Ramboyko?
Posted by Woody 2022-10-05 10:13||   2022-10-05 10:13|| Front Page Top

#13 #11 They're back

Yes. The little Barney Fife characters around here are like zombies.

These sharting-shitting warmongers l won’t stop until we’re all sitting amidst the rubble
Posted by Pholunter 2022-10-05 10:17||   2022-10-05 10:17|| Front Page Top

#14 The tweet and photos in #10 refers to this article. Hromadske is news agency that is accompanies Ukrainian troops on their campaign.

"Buried alive": the police told about the torture chamber that the occupiers arranged in the village of Pisky-Radkivski in the Kharkiv region
Thus, after the liberation of the village of Pisky-Radkivski, local residents informed the police that prisoners were being held in the basement of one of the houses: local residents, anti-terrorist forces, and prisoners from the armed forces.

" Neighbors constantly heard screams from there [...] At this moment, the police know for sure about torture - burying alive in the ground and using a gas mask with a smoldering rag, " Bolvinov said.

He said that the torture chamber also found a dildo, a box of broken dentures [actually a box of extracted gold teeth and rings from the tortured], wires with ropes and a letter with an interview of one of the men who had been there.

Russians are ghouls.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-05 10:23||   2022-10-05 10:23|| Front Page Top

#15 Warmongers like you are ghouls.

You’ll be on your own soon, Lil’ Ramboyko. Run along now.
Posted by Woody  2022-10-05 10:31||   2022-10-05 10:31|| Front Page Top

#16  They're back

"Morning, Sam!"
Posted by SteveS 2022-10-05 10:32||   2022-10-05 10:32|| Front Page Top

#17 You are in denial Woodski. Look upon the works of your fellow Russians and weep. The rest of the world is watching. The 50 Roubles you get for posting is not worth a man's conscience.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-05 10:43||   2022-10-05 10:43|| Front Page Top

#18 New York Slimes, denazifying Ukraine all by its lonesome:

Mar 15 2019:

On his flak jacket was a symbol commonly used by the Azov Battalion, a Ukrainian neo-Nazi paramilitary organization.

Feb 11 2020:

Defenders of the Ukrainian Azov Battalion, which the F.B.I. calls “a paramilitary unit” notorious for its “association with neo-Nazi ideology,” accuse us of being part of a Kremlin campaign to “demonize” the group.

Mar 17 2022 — here they are, de-Nazified by the Slimes, who suddenly soften their language and call them a “far-right” “military unit”:

Facebook last week said it was making an exception to its anti-extremism policies to allow praise for Ukraine’s far-right Azov Battalion military unit, “strictly in the context of defending Ukraine, or in their role as part of the Ukraine National Guard.”

Apr 29 2022: now denazification is complete: what used to be Nazis are now just “a unit in the military,” no different from your ordinary workaday warrior:

These scenes are from videos shared online in recent days by the Azov regiment, a unit in the Ukrainian military, which says they were taken in the mazelike bunkers beneath the sprawling Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol, Ukraine.

Let’s review — As The Narrative Turns, brought to you by the New York Slimes:

2015-Feb. 2022: "a Ukrainian neo-Nazi paramilitary organization" which even the FBI said is notorious for its “association with neo-Nazi ideology”

March 2022: Nazi "far right"

Today: Nazi "far right" a "unit in the Ukrainian military"
Posted by Woody 2022-10-05 10:47||   2022-10-05 10:47|| Front Page Top

#19 Nice try Ramboyko but we Americans have no dog in your fight.

Not our business. Not our problem.

Quit trying to drag us into an idiotic, pointless nuclear war with Russia over your shithole country where have no vital interest. None whatsoever.


Posted by Woody 2022-10-05 10:51||   2022-10-05 10:51|| Front Page Top

#20 #18 New York Slimes, denazifying Ukraine all by its lonesome

Walter Duranty would be proud.
Pulitzer-worthy!
Posted by Slender9390 2022-10-05 11:05||   2022-10-05 11:05|| Front Page Top

#21 we Americans have no dog in your fight.
Not our business. Not our problem.
Quit trying to drag us into an idiotic, pointless nuclear war with Russia over your shithole country where have no vital interest. None whatsoever.

Hear, hear. Same is true for us in Europe. Leave us out of your squabble.

Nie mój cyrk, nie moje małpy.

Posted by Slender9390 2022-10-05 11:10||   2022-10-05 11:10|| Front Page Top

#22 Jesus Christ! How did just... "summon" these guys?!? Say Beatlejuice three times with a Slavic accent?
Posted by Secret Master  2022-10-05 11:23||   2022-10-05 11:23|| Front Page Top

#23 #5 remember how they were crowing about turning the ruble into “rubble.” My, my: the ruble’s up 32% vs USD

OPEC and Russia Agree to Cut Oil Production By 2 Billion Barrels a Day

Are we having fun yet?
Posted by Slender9390 2022-10-05 11:35||   2022-10-05 11:35|| Front Page Top

#24 How’s that plan to “isolate Russia” working out for us, Brandon?

Bloomberg/Newsweek: “Biden Faces Gas Price Nightmare as OPEC Agrees Russian Proposal To Cut Oil”
“Today the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) and allied oil producing nations have backed plans to dramatically slash oil supplies in a bitter blow to President Joe Biden.”

CNN: “Inside the White House’s failed effort to dissuade OPEC from cutting oil production to avoid a ‘total disaster’”

Forbes is short and sweet (although their headline’s subject, White House Freaks, is missing a predicate):

Forbes: “White House Freaks Over OPEC Plan To Cut 2 Million Barrels Per Day”



Posted by Woody 2022-10-05 11:51||   2022-10-05 11:51|| Front Page Top

#25 Brandon’s plan to “isolate Russia”

These are the same fucking morons who said with straight faces they were going to impose an “oil price cap” on the global oil market.

It’s impossible to deny any longer. This is so ducking stupid it can only be deliberate. They’re trying to destroy us.
Posted by Chaim 2022-10-05 11:59||   2022-10-05 11:59|| Front Page Top

#26 *so fucking stupid it can only be deliberate
Posted by Chaim 2022-10-05 12:00||   2022-10-05 12:00|| Front Page Top

#27 They say that fighting Putin is the most important thing in the world BUT they work hard to limit drilling in the west. Real dissenters would point out that this is one way in which they talk out of both sides of their mouth BUT we don't have that, all we have are cheap Russian knockoffs who agree with Biden about the two choices we have being shoveling money to Russia or freezing.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-10-05 12:06||   2022-10-05 12:06|| Front Page Top

#28 Pholunter
"they think the U.S. did it."
The last few decades the world thought Mossad did it, whatever it was. That doesn't make them correct.

“a lot of the world doesn't like this NATO expansion, which they interpret as at the core of this."
Ukraine isn't part of NATO and they were invaded anyway. Sweden and Finland now want to join NATO because of the war. Seems the only folks against NATO expansion are in Russia and China and I don't particularly care what they think.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-10-05 12:15||   2022-10-05 12:15|| Front Page Top

#29 Forbes: “White House Freaks Wet Their Panties Over OPEC Plan To Cut 2 Million Barrels Per Day”

Fify
Posted by Sneatch5306 2022-10-05 12:33||   2022-10-05 12:33|| Front Page Top

#30 agree with Biden about the two choices we have being shoveling money to Russia or freezing

What are you talking about? No one said that. What a ridiculous straw man argument.

Of course we should drill and produce more and lower the world oil price with more US supply.

We should also stop this bullshit about pretending we can impose a “price cap” on a multi-trillion dollar global market — and maybe also try to avoid a nuclear war over a country where we don’t have any vital interests at stake.
Posted by Chaim 2022-10-05 12:43||   2022-10-05 12:43|| Front Page Top

#31 Russia getting ass kicked -> troll season on the 'burg.

Give 'em a break. It's better than clutching a rusty AK sitting in the Luhansk woods and wondering when the drones are going to drop things on you. Privilege has its privilege, you know.
Posted by Nero 2022-10-05 13:32||   2022-10-05 13:32|| Front Page Top

#32 What are you talking about? No one said that. What a ridiculous straw man argument.


How would you know, since you're Chaim Who Just Got Here.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-10-05 13:58||   2022-10-05 13:58|| Front Page Top

#33 LOL, Thing
Posted by Frank G 2022-10-05 14:41||   2022-10-05 14:41|| Front Page Top

#34 Current Russian operational summary: "It feels like your melon has been thumped."
Posted by Matt 2022-10-05 15:08||   2022-10-05 15:08|| Front Page Top

#35 #26 *so fucking stupid it can only be deliberate

No worries. I kinda liked ducking stupid.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-05 18:06||   2022-10-05 18:06|| Front Page Top

#36 Also, highest Ruble valuations recently: 0.019048 USD on 06/29/2022. Today: 0.016308 USD; Average: 0.016062 USD since spring of 2022. 0.013568 USD in fall 2021, so they've made up around 20% since last fall to today (remember that in 2019 they were around 0.0155 USD for most of the year, so that's only about a 5% delta in 3 years).

As a reference, Canadian Dollar has gone down 11% against the USD and the Euro has dropped 13% during the same fall 2021 to the present.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2022-10-05 18:25||   2022-10-05 18:25|| Front Page Top

#37 When Russia sends in 300,000 troops into Ukraine Putin will strike against Bidens US as well.
Posted by Sloluse Slutle9788 2022-10-05 18:50||   2022-10-05 18:50|| Front Page Top

#38 "When Russia sends in 300,000 troops into Ukraine Putin will strike against Bidens US China's largest export market as well." Maybe not.
Posted by Matt 2022-10-05 19:07||   2022-10-05 19:07|| Front Page Top

#39 Kim K. and Kanye West: the plot thickens

Kim taunts West
Posted by Big Whomolet3220 2022-10-05 19:49||   2022-10-05 19:49|| Front Page Top

#40 lol putin-bots screaming at the sky again
Posted by Spoger Omomons1827 2022-10-05 20:01||   2022-10-05 20:01|| Front Page Top

#41  When Russia sends in 300,000 troops into Ukraine

When, indeed. Didn’t Russia just reject 50% of the latest batch of draftees?
Posted by trailing wife 2022-10-05 20:12||   2022-10-05 20:12|| Front Page Top

#42 If the mobilees (mobis?) are sent piecemeal they will be killed quickly. It will take 2 months or more to train and equip a decent size force, let alone 300,000 when the Russians are already scraping the bottom of the barrel with T-62s. I read even a T-55 was captured. Guessing it as a DNR/LNR relic.
Ukraine Is Capturing Russia’s Old T-62 Tanks. Will It Use Them?
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-05 20:41||   2022-10-05 20:41|| Front Page Top

#43 Kim taunts West

I miss the days when DJ Trump would rap Kim upside the head.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-05 20:44||   2022-10-05 20:44|| Front Page Top

#44 Also, highest Ruble valuations recently:

Does the Russians little good. Can't spend Rubles or Dollars in the west for the imports they need. Even China is refusing trade. Reduced to bartering with the likes of Iran and North Korea for weapons.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-05 21:07||   2022-10-05 21:07|| Front Page Top

#45 I wouldn't laugh too much at a modernized T-55. I have some ideas as to what to arm it with, and it has nice wide tracks for the bad road conditions Ukraine is stuck with.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-10-05 22:45||   2022-10-05 22:45|| Front Page Top

#46 “The OPEC coalition’s move could also add to inflationary pressures in the United States and Europe, as well as undercut the effort to bolster Ukraine as it defends itself against the Russian invasion. Russia relies on gas and oil sales for a large portion of its budget and had pushed for the production cut, which will enable Moscow to sell oil for higher prices on the global market, generating more revenue for its war and troop mobilization.
Oil prices jumped this week in anticipation of Wednesday’s news. They are expected to increase further now, probably to over $100 per barrel.“
Posted by Janet Smellen 2022-10-05 22:56||   2022-10-05 22:56|| Front Page Top

#47 Elon Musk Attacked for Trying to Bring Peace to Ukraine
Posted by Anglin 2022-10-05 23:07||   2022-10-05 23:07|| Front Page Top

#48 All possibly true. It won’t be long before we’ll be able to look back and see what actually happened instead of all the predictions.

At which point those of our new visitors who choose to stay on will no doubt return to using one nym apiece per day... instead of some of them looking like a crowd. In the meantime, watching what everyone has to say — and how they say it — has been truly educational.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-10-05 23:16||   2022-10-05 23:16|| Front Page Top

#49 But … but… muh oil price cap!

Gas prices starting to take off again. More increases are on the way
Posted by Janet Smellen 2022-10-05 23:39||   2022-10-05 23:39|| Front Page Top

#50  I wouldn't laugh too much at a modernized T-55.

Yeah, horses for courses. Light weight, wide tracks, and a shooty thing. Not your first choice for a tank battle, but it would make a nifty assault gun and give your infantry something to hide behind as they advance across open fields.
Posted by SteveS 2022-10-05 23:42||   2022-10-05 23:42|| Front Page Top

#51 “According to CNN which cited people familiar with the situation, the White House used all available resources to lobby the oil cartel ahead of their Vienna meeting, and is now left "having a spasm and panicking."

“A defeated Biden said he is "concerned" with OPEC's decision, going as far as to call the move "a hostile act" and a "total disaster."
Posted by Spasms of Joy 2022-10-05 23:44||   2022-10-05 23:44|| Front Page Top

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