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2022-08-29 -Great Cultural Revolution
Green New Deal Arrives-Actual Copy Of $29,000 Bill To Replace Chevy Volt Battery
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Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-08-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10 views ]  Top
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#1 OK Quick math: I own a 2018 Mercedes-Benz C300 EPA Fuel Economy Premium Gasoline Combined MPG: 27: MPG City MPG: 23: Highway MPG: 34: combined city/highway: city: highway: 3.7 gal/100mi 470 miles Total Range
Say I spend $5.00 per gallon Cost to Fill the Tank: $87: Tank Size: 17.4 gallons *Based on 45% highway, 55% city driving, 15,000 annual miles and current fuel prices. I fill up the tank 32 times in a year =$2784.00 per year~10years=$27840.00 so, 150,000 miles - maintenance - yup == say $3,500 in 7 years - The EV here has only gone 70,480 miles about half the miles and and it is dead; 4.75 years into ownership --- my conclusion < EVs are a dud financially & logistically.
Posted by Bob Peacock4133 2022-08-29 01:11||   2022-08-29 01:11|| Front Page Top

#2 *happy sigh*
Posted by trailing wife 2022-08-29 01:59||   2022-08-29 01:59|| Front Page Top

#3 Battery technology for EVs is not even to Ford Model-A levels yet
Posted by magpie 2022-08-29 02:00||   2022-08-29 02:00|| Front Page Top

#4 Can't argue with the math. I bought a 2021 F-150 Powerboost. The engine recharges the onboard batteries. Ford guarantee is for 8 yrs on the battery pack. I get 25 MPG with battery and 3.5 twin turbo motor. My primary reason was to get the 7.2KW generator built into the bed as a home backup - as well as all the fun th8ngs you can haul.
Posted by Warthog 2022-08-29 09:06||   2022-08-29 09:06|| Front Page Top

#5 
Noting, the Battery did not even last 71K miles.

I ran ihe VIN # 1G1RB6E4XCU113962 for greater repair history data..


General Information
Make Chevrolet
Model Volt
Model year 2012
Body style 4 Doors Hatchback
Engine type 1.4L L4 DOHC 16V FWD

Manufactured in United States

Vehicle specification
Body type Hatchback
Number of doors 4
Number of seats 4
Displacement SI 1393
Displacement CID 85
Displacement Nominal 1.4
Engine type L4
Engine head DOHC
Engine valves 16
Engine cylinders 4
Engine aspiration Naturally
Engine HorsePower 149
Engine KiloWatts 111
Fuel type Gasoline
Driveline FWD
Anti-Brake System ABS

Posted by NN2N1 2022-08-29 09:09||   2022-08-29 09:09|| Front Page Top

#6 I have a Tesla 3 with over 100,000 miles. Works just fine. I expect to put as many miles on it as any other car I've owned.
Posted by Ed Fremont 2022-08-29 09:10||   2022-08-29 09:10|| Front Page Top

#7 What I like is the state mandated $1.50 tacked on the end for recycling. Like that's gonna cover it.
Posted by ed in texas 2022-08-29 09:12||   2022-08-29 09:12|| Front Page Top

#8 I still await the day when you are charged a tax (while being tracked) by the mile. Gotta make up those missing taxes somehow.
Posted by DooDahMan 2022-08-29 09:16||   2022-08-29 09:16|| Front Page Top

#9 Forgot mention while the Volt does have a battery. It is primarily gas fueled for travel. According all the EPA data I read the Battery is only good for less than 40 miles per charge for travel.
Posted by NN2N1 2022-08-29 10:06||   2022-08-29 10:06|| Front Page Top

#10  I still await the day ...

Gas Taxes and What You Need To Know

Better fuel mileage reduces the tax per mile.
Posted by Skidmark 2022-08-29 10:16||   2022-08-29 10:16|| Front Page Top

#11 Note that nothing about the cost of the disposition of the replaced battery is included in the bill. As significant numbers of EV batteries are replaced, the economic/environmental impact costs for their disposition and recycling will be established, and will be significant additional expenditures.

Also an unknown, its the environmental impact of the manufacture of significant batteries on a scale needed to match the millions of POVs sold annually.

Finally, there is the entire issue of the electrical grid enhancements needed to sustain a worldwide conversion to recharging. All these impacts are real costs not discussed or even adequately forecast. What they all significantly seem to suggest is a long term consolidation of populations back into urban settings where POVs become rare and controlled.

Progressive/socialist/environmental WEF forecasts/policy papers suggest the elites see that as a positive, me not so much!
Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-08-29 11:54||   2022-08-29 11:54|| Front Page Top

#12 The battery disposal issue will follow the trajectory of Yucca Mountain.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-08-29 12:10||   2022-08-29 12:10|| Front Page Top

#13 /\ DOE will get the contract, you'll see.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-08-29 12:27||   2022-08-29 12:27|| Front Page Top

#14 The batteries will all be shipped to some place like Karachi, Pakistan for "recycling" ....until they stop taking them abruptly.
Posted by magpie 2022-08-29 14:39||   2022-08-29 14:39|| Front Page Top

#15 Then consider what happens when a replacement battery is simply not currently available and will never be available again.
Posted by Gromble Dribble4342 2022-08-29 17:39||   2022-08-29 17:39|| Front Page Top

#16 You will be able to get an Chinese sourced unlicensed replacement of questionable quality from Amazon.
Posted by M. Murcek  2022-08-29 19:12||   2022-08-29 19:12|| Front Page Top

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