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2022-03-20 Europe

WAR TOURIST FAIL: British volunteer fighters may have triggered deadly strike on Ukrainian base after their phones were detected

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Posted by Grish Clomock2324 2022-03-20 09:57|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Rather obvious takeaway: Cellies can be big trouble.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-20 14:33|| 2022-03-20 14:33|| Front Page Top

#2 "Guess where I am..."

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-20 14:36|| 2022-03-20 14:36|| Front Page Top

#3 ^ Looks to be about 50.45466 N, 30.5238 E.
Fire for effect.

Posted by SteveS 2022-03-20 14:53|| 2022-03-20 14:53|| Front Page Top

#4 If that's true, then they are (were) absolute morons.

But if not the phones, then the Fitbits.

Here's a link that is not pay-walled.

Posted by DooDahMan 2022-03-20 15:04|| 2022-03-20 15:04|| Front Page Top

#5 The Russians can confirm cells are trouble. They have had at least 2-3 generals killed because of them.

Posted by DarthVader 2022-03-20 15:55|| 2022-03-20 15:55|| Front Page Top

#6 #4 - just the Fitbits with GPS. I still wear an early one that just tells me "walk more, fat ass"

Posted by Frank G 2022-03-20 16:00|| 2022-03-20 16:00|| Front Page Top

#7 I seriously doubt it was the cell phones. If so why not plant decoy cell phones all over the country to draw enemy fire away from your position?

Posted by jpal 2022-03-20 16:48|| 2022-03-20 16:48|| Front Page Top

/\ Would be too much electronic magic for me as well jpal, had I not see it on a smaller scale elsewhere.

Single source intelligence (signals) backed up with overhead imagery or human intelligence (HUMINT) becomes MULTI-Source and actionable. Folks really need to take those cellies seriously. The Taliban seldom did, figuring switching off from a pocketful of 'selectors' (cell phones) would spoof the infidels. Didn't work then, won't work now. A good analyst can recognize the voice, even without sophisticated voice recognition tools.

Nesting or clustering of selector signals produces 'top of the deck' high value targets (HVT). Geo location technology was no friend of the Taliban.

HUMINT note... I am sure the Ukrainistas are witting and on the lookout for possible Russian infiltrators and reporters. Everybody that smiles at ya, ain't your friend.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-20 17:26|| 2022-03-20 17:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Regardless of how many SIMs you swap, cell phones pass a lot of device identity data that would let anyone paying attention see that some phones were not originally sold in the area where they were being used. That would be red flag city.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-03-20 17:31|| 2022-03-20 17:31|| Front Page Top

#10 ^ Which is why I always carry mine in a Faraday Cage ~~in a fake hump on my back.~~

Posted by Frank G 2022-03-20 17:31|| 2022-03-20 17:31|| Front Page Top

#11 Ukraine and Russia have been zapping each other for some 8 years because soldiers using their cell phone. Ukrainian story, finally someone noticed the caught a heavy, accurate artillery barrage right after someone used a cell.

And a camp full of Tiktokers? Russians probably thought it was a trick.

Posted by swksvolFF 2022-03-20 17:50|| 2022-03-20 17:50|| Front Page Top

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