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2021-05-20 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott signs law banning all abortions at just SIX WEEKS with no exceptions for rape or incest

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Posted by Skidmark 2021-05-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top

#1 I do admire how US conservatives are capable on focusing on what's important and ignoring insignificant irritations.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-05-20 04:04|| 2021-05-20 04:04|| Front Page Top

#2 Yupp. So important.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-05-20 05:29|| 2021-05-20 05:29|| Front Page Top

#3 The law would certainly fail a court challenge based on Casey vs Planned Parenthood, etc.

Texas specifically excluded public agencies from being able to enforce the law thus eliminating them from entities having standing to sue.

The law becomes effective 1 Sept. The goal of that is, I think, to get the Supreme Court to overturn Casey.. before then. The Supreme Court has already agreed to hear the case of the Mississippi law which has a 15 week limitation so there is a possibility. However, a complete overturn of Casey.. is a long shot.

Posted by Lord Garth 2021-05-20 09:26|| 2021-05-20 09:26|| Front Page Top

#4 Dron, g(r)omgoru: This comes from a single state out of fifty — plus some territories and such, like Puerto Rico and Guam. Since January, more than twenty of the Republican-controlled states have been passing laws tightening up election laws, gun rights laws, education laws, laws covering government actions during an epidemic, and unemployment compensation laws, all to limit the changes the Democrats are trying to push through at the federal level.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-05-20 09:51|| 2021-05-20 09:51|| Front Page Top

#5 You've kids of your own TW - you know how much work it's to raise a kid to be a human being.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-05-20 11:06|| 2021-05-20 11:06|| Front Page Top

#6 you know how much work it's to raise a kid to be a human being.

I have an idea how hard it can be, g(r)omgoru — but the trailing daughters were easy and mostly a lot of fun to rear. What trailing daughter #1 is dealing with now only showed up later, poor thing. How did I misunderstand you and Dron?

Posted by trailing wife 2021-05-20 11:27|| 2021-05-20 11:27|| Front Page Top

#7 #6 Dron can speak for himself. To me there are two aspects to abortion: individual & societal.
On individual level, it's no kindness to bring an unwonted child into the world.
On societal level: Are you people crazy? 30 million of what I call "Your homegrown Palestinians" is not enough for you? You want more BLM?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-05-20 11:38|| 2021-05-20 11:38|| Front Page Top

#8 It's part of what I call a Reality vs. ideology conundrum. We know something's irrational and won't work right in the real world, yet we defend it because if we don't the greater evil comes in. Today, sets of principles borrowed from religion and hollow doctrines are the pipes and timbrels of both left and right. And the narrow minded demands of constituents and supporters become the banners. The fight is no more about doing the right thing that alleviates human suffering, safeguards quality and dignity of life, or protecting the parts of us that are vital. Ideology is everything, and policy that stems from it. The real issues are seen as resulting from policy, not individual malice and frailty; and thus somehow fixable by broad policy. Both sides think like this, everywhere, I guess. And we defend policies of our side with zeal.

Everybody knows for example, that there are a lot of people out there who can't be trusted with a firearm [some even with other basic rights like free speech] but because the right of the rational too is threatened by Dems we defend it all. Can't be helped because it is survival.

When it comes to sacrosanct things, things that are essential to our humanity though, like childhood, motherhood, the parental instinct... the consideration arises that who and how will they raise the child? What is its lot in the world and has our adamance cursed him/her with a life we cannot wish on our own? Are these even pondered by the self righteous fools when they make such demands of the State and cheer when the State gives in? A woman's rape may be incomplete in fact until you bring the entire government into it and force her to bear to term the fruit of her violation. I don't have answers, and the State cannot either. If some TV preacher says he does, he's a goddamn liar. All I believe is the battle for primacy of ideology can leave out some things.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-05-20 12:15|| 2021-05-20 12:15|| Front Page Top

#9 What is your TD dealing with? Do share in the O club. We're all family here.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-05-20 12:22|| 2021-05-20 12:22|| Front Page Top

#10 religion and other hollow doctrines

Posted by Skidmark 2021-05-20 13:38|| 2021-05-20 13:38|| Front Page Top

#11 I think at this point the idea is to get the perfect case up to the supremes and hope for the best.

Posted by Helmuth, Speaking for Thererong7228 2021-05-20 21:01|| 2021-05-20 21:01|| Front Page Top

#12 Do share in the O club. We're all family here.

Go take a look, Dron.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-05-20 22:03|| 2021-05-20 22:03|| Front Page Top

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