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2021-04-11 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
40 percent of Marines have declined the coronavirus vaccine
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Posted by Besoeker 2021-04-11 05:32|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ]  Top

#1 I am not at all certain how long DoD will continue to permit the COVID declinations to continue.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-04-11 05:38||   2021-04-11 05:38|| Front Page Top

#2 ^If it was good enough for George Washington...
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-04-11 06:47||   2021-04-11 06:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Maybe B, but if the female Marines say 'It's my body' it will be an interesting 'intersection' for the Lefties to deal with.
Posted by Procopius2k 2021-04-11 07:36||   2021-04-11 07:36|| Front Page Top

#4 
#1 I am not at all certain how long DoD will continue to permit the COVID declinations to continue.
Posted by: Besoeker 2021-04-11 05:38

Beo,

An interesting dynamic from the past is one of the factors at work here.

In the late 80s/early 90s, DOD started administering vaccines that had NOT been formally approved for general use (keep that term in mind) to the troops in the field, especially for anthrax. This got worse during DESERT SHIELD/DESERT STORM when the military was frantically trying to vaccinate people for service in the Persian Gulf and was running dangerously low on the standard vaccines.

The result was utterly foreseeable - people started having bad, and in some cases life-threatening reactions. By the late 90s, the matter had made its way to the courts and the mess was bad enough that Congress stepped in and made it clear that NO MILITARY MEMBER could be forced to take a vaccine that had not been cleared for general use by the FDA.

And of course, not one of the current COVID vaccines is 'general use', they're all emergency use only.

There are still plenty of people around who remember the fallout from this - 'vaccine denial' isn't a big thing in the military, for obvious reasons. And as a former Marine friend of mine pointed out to me this morning, the uniforms and the suits at DOD have wasted so much trust over the last 30 years that even under the best of conditions people would have been skeptical.

Now, DOD could just say 'Screw it,' and order people to get the shot. And all it will take is a single E-1 someplace to take it to court, and it holds things up for weeks at best while unused vaccine doses pile up and are eventually wasted. A court could eventually say, "Tough luck, take the shot," but by that point the services will be even further behind the curve. No good solutions.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2021-04-11 07:39||   2021-04-11 07:39|| Front Page Top

#5 /\ I concur, "no good solutions". With the government however, it seems that is the crop we usually harvest.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-04-11 07:48||   2021-04-11 07:48|| Front Page Top

#6 Makes sense for them to refuse, given the low adverse impact of CCP-flu on the healthy, under 60 population.
Posted by Mercutio 2021-04-11 07:51||   2021-04-11 07:51|| Front Page Top

#7 In the late 80s/early 90s, DOD started administering vaccines that had NOT been formally approved for general use

People Fully Vaccinated USA: 70,692,645
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-04-11 08:08||   2021-04-11 08:08|| Front Page Top

#8 Vaccine for healthy people with a survival rate of 99.99...% in their age group should they even contract COVID?

Meanwhile, is RADM (Retarded) Crowe still around?
Posted by Clem 2021-04-11 09:41||   2021-04-11 09:41|| Front Page Top

#9 #6
You know that for sure?
Posted by Xyz 2021-04-11 09:48||   2021-04-11 09:48|| Front Page Top

#10 only statistically... too many studies to cite.
I will admit if you're one of the relatively few young healthy people who crump from the disease, stats don't mean much. Me, being somewhat old and decrepit, I took a chance on the shot.
Posted by Mercutio 2021-04-11 11:33||   2021-04-11 11:33|| Front Page Top

#11 One stat that might be of interest. As of today in MN, there were 6,957 deaths attributed to CCP-flu. Of those deaths 89% were 65 years or older, so there does seem to be an age, and presumably, health-related component.
Posted by Mercutio 2021-04-11 15:22||   2021-04-11 15:22|| Front Page Top

#12 Age, then obesity. Vitamin D levels are said to play a role and not just with Wuhan Virus.
Posted by Clem 2021-04-11 16:02||   2021-04-11 16:02|| Front Page Top

#13 In the elderly Vitamin D is apparently not metabolized well. (Ditto pretty much everything else, sadly.) In the obese, Vitamin D is apparently stored in the fat cells instead of being available for metabolization. Recommended Daily Allowance numbers are the minimum required for bare survival, not to optimize thriving. But going outside in the sunshine between 10a.m. and 2p.m. with bare arms and legs from spring through fall will get a fair-skinned person over the RDA — all of you easily tanned people will have to work harder while I do my best to avoid being sunburnt yet again.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-04-11 17:40||   2021-04-11 17:40|| Front Page Top

#14 Got a negative COVID test yesterday so I can get Colon-probed tuesday. LOVE getting older....
Posted by Frank G 2021-04-11 17:42||   2021-04-11 17:42|| Front Page Top

#15 #9 The stats are overwhelming on this. 95% of the deaths in the US are in the 50 years old and up range.
Posted by Bangkok Billy 2021-04-11 18:11||   2021-04-11 18:11|| Front Page Top

#16 Hush, youse. Get wit da program. COVID now, COVID forever. Bow to yer masters.
Posted by Angoth Smiter of the Weak6789 2021-04-11 19:18||   2021-04-11 19:18|| Front Page Top

#17 Ladies & gentlemen, your masters:

Posted by Clem 2021-04-11 19:58||   2021-04-11 19:58|| Front Page Top

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