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2020-11-09 -Land of the Free

Wait Just a Minute! Some Very Good News May Be Coming

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Posted by 746 2020-11-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 Forwarded via a law office and friend:

info from some of the lawyers from my group:

Ok in a nutshell. This is going to the Supreme Court. Where they will rule that the election is invalid due to fraud or mistakes on a country wide scale. It will go one of two ways, either they will rule that all the unconstitutional mail in ballots will be removed and the states ordered to recount without them or they will simply rule the election is invalid due to mass voter fraud and at that point it will be sent to the congress and senate for a vote. This is where it gets good.

The house/congress votes on who the President will be. It has nothing to do with what party that has power. Every State gets one vote and 30 States are held by Republicans. and 19 by Democrats. They have to vote down party lines, they have no choice due to the 12th Amendment of the Constitution and the Senate votes for the Vice President where a similar even will take place. This is The law.

This is why the Democrats are so mad at Nancy Pelosi. This will all happen in January. The only way President Trump won’t be President is if he concedes the election and that will never happen So stop watching the fake news and don’t let your heart be troubled and live your life knowing this will all work out. President Trump will remain President I have researched all of this and it is Fact!

Another fun fact, they call Gore the President Elect for 30 days in 2000 until the courts ruled against him and declared Bush the winner. And two people that were part of that decision was none other that new Supreme Court Justices, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Why do you think the Democrats tried so hard to keep them from being confirmed.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-11-09 05:09|| 2020-11-09 05:09|| Front Page Top

#2 This is not Bush vs Gore. Here it's about ten or even hundred thousands of votes.

Don't go there. Concentrate on the two remaining Senate seats, take back the House in 2022, and you are set for 2024.

Should the SC invalidate hundred thousands of votes you're looking at a civil war. Not worth it.

Posted by European Conservative 2020-11-09 05:18|| 2020-11-09 05:18|| Front Page Top

#3 EC we are basically there.

Posted by 3dc 2020-11-09 05:47|| 2020-11-09 05:47|| Front Page Top

#4 #2 - Your opinion doesn't matter here. The only reason it would be civil war is because the Dems cheated. To accept that is un-American

Posted by Frank G 2020-11-09 06:45|| 2020-11-09 06:45|| Front Page Top

#5 This is a encouraging opinion piece.
We should not concede to Democratic voter fraud.
It is important to verify that every ballot is a valid vote. The Democrats have perfected how to bypass and prevent the ballot verification process.
There must be a national standard integrity requirements of which in person voting and same day voting and canvassing is best.
I know there will be scream of voter suppression and every voter should count.
Ours should be no voter disenfranchisement or cancellation by voter fraud.

Posted by boomerc 2020-11-09 07:00|| 2020-11-09 07:00|| Front Page Top

#6 #4 "Your opinion doesn't matter here."

In a discussion every opinion matters, like it or not.

Posted by European Conservative 2020-11-09 07:24|| 2020-11-09 07:24|| Front Page Top

#7 It's civil war or surrender. If we surrender, the two party system is dead, to be administrated and legislated out of existence. They will never surrender power peacefully again.

Posted by Procopius2k 2020-11-09 08:17|| 2020-11-09 08:17|| Front Page Top

#8 This country's reached the point of no return. To say it is polarized is an understatement. The Dems have gone absolutely mad, and watching the Deep State take center stage (and seeing the TDS displays by multiple parties) just spell doom.

Posted by Clem 2020-11-09 08:18|| 2020-11-09 08:18|| Front Page Top

#9 EC, we aint got the luxury of Time nor do we have ringside seats, We're in the ring.

Posted by 746 2020-11-09 08:50|| 2020-11-09 08:50|| Front Page Top

#10 This is not Bush vs Gore Here it's about ten or even hundred thousands of votes..

This is EXACTLY why we must "go there."

Those are not real votes. No one with a head on his shoulders instead of a cabbage can believe that these half-million ballots represent the actual votes cast be actual registered voters.

Statistically, what we are seeing is impossible.

A hundred thousand or so absentee ballots, all for Biden and only Biden, with no down-ballot votes whatsoever, in each of four swing states and only in those swing states, every one of them run by Democrats who have a history of fraud?

This is 100% fraudulent.

This is as valid as Biden's claim that Hunter Biden is a brilliant and honorable man.

To ask us to accept this after an election in which the media suppressed real and dispositive evidence of the Biden family's corruption by not just Ukrainian, Russian and Central Asian thieves but actual Chinese military and political elites is the political equivalent of rape.

We will never accept these atrocities.
We will preserve our democratic republic.

Posted by Goober B. Hayes6242 2020-11-09 09:02|| 2020-11-09 09:02|| Front Page Top

#11 I'd think a cleaner solution is one I spotted elsewhere on the 'net - simply disallow vote totals from the counties where the fraud's substantial, like those in Detroit, Chicago, Philly, Atlanta & Milwaukee just to name the obvious ones.

Posted by Raj 2020-11-09 09:02|| 2020-11-09 09:02|| Front Page Top

#12 Philadelphia's Judge of Elections, a creep named Domenick DeMuro, just pled guilty a few months ago to fixing thousands of ballots in dozens of races over three different years. In May 2020. In Philadelphia. The judge of elections admitted to rewriting ballots.

And these Chavezistas expect Americans to believe that Biden is now legitimately winning votes that are arriving in absurd batches of absentee ballots, like Obama-Kerry's midnight pallets of cash to Tehran-- in stealth, with absolutely zero oversight at all of their provenance. All for Biden.

23,277 for Biden and zero for Trump in one recent Philadelphia batch!

Fuck these felons.

Posted by Craigum Ulose8966 2020-11-09 09:14|| 2020-11-09 09:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Don't go there. Concentrate on the two remaining Senate seats, take back the House in 2022, and you are set for 2024.

Should the SC invalidate hundred thousands of votes you're looking at a civil war. Not worth it.

Some points to add. If the demoncrats cheat during the run off and get the senate, they will stuff the Supreme Court and all that nice redistricting that currently favors the Republicans hugely will be ruled away.

If the demoncrats take everything, this Republic is finished. But it might be finished regardless.

If Trump loses his court battle, half of the country will see Biden as illegitimate and a cheat. Expect all sorts of mostly non-violent resistance, until he tries to force people to do things by executive action.

If Trump wins, half of the country, the media, the tech elites will see it as stealing the election and expect 4 years of making the last 4, especially 2020 seem like the halcyon days of our youth.

Either scenario I see states push for and may actually succeed. Highly possible with the red states if the demoncrats win everything.

Posted by DarthVader 2020-11-09 09:20|| 2020-11-09 09:20|| Front Page Top

#14 The only way we can preserve our democracy is to do the ejection over and force EVERY SINGLE VOTE to have complete, effective, total chain of custody, supervised by at least two electoral observers, one from each party, in a public setting. No mail-in bullshit.

Real people, in public, observed and verified by one D official and one R official, actual verified registered voters actually inserting their ballot marked in a public polling place but also private , and placing it into an envelope and manually inserting it into a ballot machine that does not electronically display their preference for all to see.

End this third world absentee ballot bullshit.

Posted by Hupising Untervehr5023 2020-11-09 09:31|| 2020-11-09 09:31|| Front Page Top

#15 Should the SC invalidate hundred thousands of votes you're looking at a civil war. Not worth it.

If the US tips into the socialist trap, more will die.

Posted by gorb 2020-11-09 09:36|| 2020-11-09 09:36|| Front Page Top

#16 Should the SC invalidate hundred thousands of votes you're looking at a civil war. Not worth it.

Supremes won't invalidate hundred thousands of votes - unless they were invalid in the first place. That is, these hundred thousands of votes don't belong to real persons.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-11-09 09:53|| 2020-11-09 09:53|| Front Page Top

#17 Yeah. Just let the rapist have his way with you. It's not like it's rape-rape you know. (/sarc)

And that is basically what they are doing, raping the electorial system. Once we 'allow' this, we can never again 'disallow' it.

Posted by CrazyFool 2020-11-09 09:57|| 2020-11-09 09:57|| Front Page Top

#18 Free speech in America is already on life support
Free and honest media are being throttled.
Now free and fair elections are being exposed as bogus in front of our eyes.

And you expect the heirs of the Boys of Pointe Du Hoc and the Bulge and Bastogne to lie down and not fight back against yet another panzer assault on what remains of our blessed Republic? No. Hell no.

Posted by Unomoter Flinerong9770 2020-11-09 09:57|| 2020-11-09 09:57|| Front Page Top

#19 #16 ... and, under winner takes all system - up to 49% of the votes get thrown away every election, anyways.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-11-09 10:03|| 2020-11-09 10:03|| Front Page Top

#20 Nobody is talking about invalidating legit votes.

What is needed is to confirm the legit votes made. Each fraudulent vote is an act of violence against not only Trump voters in said states, but nationwide.

Using the force of a deliberate lie to control behavior is violence. Those who really believe in Palosi's Mandate or AOC's Make a List should know what the real score is, and that happens with a confirmation and re-count.

Wouldn't that be a surprise, putting on your Blamtifa Boots, leadership is all "yeah, not only do we outnumber them, but they are all old fat people." Only to find out all those nominal allies you thought you had are like, "Nah, parents fled your type, I won't" and really outnumbered maybe 2:1. Oh, and those politicians who see the polls have dropped you on your ass.

I'm not saying the usual suspects won't use violence in order to influence a political decision, but confirming the vote is not going to start a civil war.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-11-09 12:33|| 2020-11-09 12:33|| Front Page Top

#21 making it 'not worth it' has been part of the Dems' strategy for ages.

they are counting on a Trump concession in order to 'heal the country'. On a normal GOP politician that would easily work. Time will tell whether it will work on Trump

For me, the law and the truth is always worth it, no matter the cost

Posted by Bob Grorong1136 2020-11-09 13:05|| 2020-11-09 13:05|| Front Page Top

#22 Should the SC invalidate hundred thousands of votes you're looking at a civil war. Not worth it.

Why do you think I've been so depressed since last Wednesday? If we can't have free and fair elections, we can't have democracy so we might as well have war. I don't want war. I don't even have a gun. I would want to fight but if I did, if I was allowed at my age, I would most likely die and it would certainly tear my family apart.

But I don't want to live in a totalitarian, Chinese vassal state.

So I went to our virtual church on Sunday and I prayed for America. I believe my prayer was answered because that's when I remembered we now have a Supreme Court that will at least give Trump a fair hearing.

Think about it: How is it that RBG died and was replaced so quickly by Amy Coney Barret? Was that coincidence, luck or Providence?

If Trump can prove his case to the Supreme Court then he might yet win. If he can't then I will have no choice but to accept that Biden won. We have a system in this country and I must trust it. The joker in this deck is the military but I must have faith that they will also trust the system. Then I started to feel a bit better.

EC, Rantburgers will remind you that blue city Democrats would be at an extreme disadvantage in a war and I believe it is beyond their capabilities to organize a real army the way Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee did. There may be riots but if it gets to the point where real bullets start flying en mass I think their survival instincts will prevail and they will stop.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-11-09 13:10|| 2020-11-09 13:10|| Front Page Top

#23 Trump should absolutely fight for every legal vote. Even if he were to have no chance of overturning the presidential election he should continue to ensure the Senate seats are judged on fair vote and to expose the corruption that would put a nasty taint on the Biden Presidency that would carry over to 2022 and 2024 elections.

Even if Trump doesn't win he can destroy the Democrats by exposing the machine in these cities and getting people locked up.

Posted by rjschwarz 2020-11-09 13:20|| 2020-11-09 13:20|| Front Page Top

#24 It would warm the cockles of my cold, black heart to see some of these people going to jail. It would be fun to watch them trying to decide if they should take the fall or rat on the ones to put them up to their shenanigans.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-11-09 14:05|| 2020-11-09 14:05|| Front Page Top

#25 The choice for each of us seems to be one of the following:

A. Shrug, accept, fall back on a default mode of civilized irony. "Corruption happens." Hey, Nixon won in 1960 and didn't contest it because it would have ripped the country apart. Better part of valor and all that. This is the pragmatic approach that you find in cynical Old European capitals -- call it the VIENNESE-IRONIC option.

B. Raise hell, make noise, join the convoy and camp out in front of the state Capitol. Try to use lawfare plus civilized pressure a la the 2000 election's "Brooks Brothers Riot." This is the PALM BEACH-COWBELL option.

C. Go to ground, close your window blinds, create anonymous accounts at Parler etc and fire away as a keyboard warrior. This is the CARACAS-SAMIZDAT option.

None of the above options A-C -- not the Viennese-Ironic, nor the Palm Beach-Cowbell or the Caracas-Samizdat models -- not one offers any hope of restoring something like a normal democracy with free speech, rule of law and honest elections.

What is Option D?

Posted by Muggsy Tingle4296 2020-11-09 14:43|| 2020-11-09 14:43|| Front Page Top

#26 A hotci il war has been going on for almost a year, see Antifa/BLM destruction in all US major cities.

Posted by Angeater Omick2705 2020-11-09 14:49|| 2020-11-09 14:49|| Front Page Top

#27 #26 Hear, hear.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-11-09 14:56|| 2020-11-09 14:56|| Front Page Top

#28 European Conservative, the Left reports they are already collecting lists. If so, we already have templates about how to respond to totalitarianism. Here is just one: link

Posted by trailing wife 2020-11-09 15:24|| 2020-11-09 15:24|| Front Page Top

#29 There is no need to be depressed. You are part of 70 Millions of votes.
Unite with other fellow supporters and fight, talk, tell people how Democrat/Marxists want to forbid almost everything.

Posted by Thorong Grundy1520 2020-11-09 15:52|| 2020-11-09 15:52|| Front Page Top

#30 But you need to do your homework = know the enemy.
Read history of how Fascism came from Marxism, you might even read leftist tactic books.

And stop calling them "liberals" that just tell me you don't know your enemy.

Posted by Thorong Grundy1520 2020-11-09 15:54|| 2020-11-09 15:54|| Front Page Top

#31 Think Roman Forum.

It isn't enough for the lawyers to present the case, the crowd must be involved and enthusiastic.

And in the other aisle, there are quite a few democrat ticket voters who are now waking up to Biden's situation. More lockdowns, corrupt family, and a vote for Biden like the heady days of 2008-2016 was really a vote for Harris, unlikable first loser of the primary.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-11-09 16:57|| 2020-11-09 16:57|| Front Page Top

#32 Too many Republican cucks willing (eager?) to accept this outrage.

Posted by Iblis 2020-11-09 17:21|| 2020-11-09 17:21|| Front Page Top

#33 Senators up for re-election in 2 years better get on board too. Imagine all this blatancy, directed on your district to flip your seat and take Congress.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-11-09 17:26|| 2020-11-09 17:26|| Front Page Top

#34 Auntie Python and the Holey Vote, or, The Fat Blue Line

Our champions entered the lists
Through the post and its poisonous mists,
Past a pudgy blue line
Drunk on fortified whine,
And a gauntlet of unionized fists.

Posted by Sheba Phusoger3433 2020-11-09 18:16|| 2020-11-09 18:16|| Front Page Top

#35 Sadly, when I think of Rome, I think of bread & circuses.

Meanwhile, were the Dems that f'in stupid that "D.J." would not give up without a fight? He's got the reputation of a New York brawler. Besides, look at the egesta he's had to put up with for four years.

Posted by Clem 2020-11-09 18:18|| 2020-11-09 18:18|| Front Page Top

#36 were the Dems that f'in stupid that "D.J." would not give up without a fight?
Why not? They actually believe that they will be part of the 'Socialist Elite' when their Utopia finally arrives. Particularly the media who will probably be the first against the wall.

Posted by CrazyFool 2020-11-09 18:44|| 2020-11-09 18:44|| Front Page Top

#37 Sadly, when I think of Rome, I think of bread & circuses

You misspelled Welfare and Hollywood.

Posted by CrazyFool 2020-11-09 21:14|| 2020-11-09 21:14|| Front Page Top

#38 #35 when I think of Rome, I think of bread & circuses.

Perfect analogy to our corrupt Uniparty / Deep State / Big Tech winner take all oligarchy in the digital-lockdown era.

Emperors = our Kakocratic Uniparty
Praetorian Guard = the Deep State
Oligarchs = Big Tech

"Bread" =

1. Stimulus payments by the emperors to the plebeians who've been thrown out of work by the economic collapse or who've had their businesses destroyed by the Emperors' lockdown

2. Subsidized grain in the form of cheapo goods sold at predatory prices on Amazon to the proles i.e. the 65-70% of the population that can no longer accumulate savings or wealth

3. Fake growth based on borrowing trillions and trillions

"Circuses" = staring at screens all day & playing video games, gambling, pr0n, consuming that great American garbage culture of crap, rap, pap, claptrap & fap

Posted by Huperens Clairong7264 2020-11-09 21:31|| 2020-11-09 21:31|| Front Page Top

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