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2020-04-17 Home Front: Culture Wars
People Are Not Lambs to Be Slaughtered at the Altar of Economy
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-17 12:49|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ]  Top

#1 Better to starve slowly but in good health.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-04-17 13:09||   2020-04-17 13:09|| Front Page Top

#2 To paraphrase grom, I'm tired of hearing about how lives are more important than the economy. These unborn children need to get working on the huge debt we are leaving them...
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-04-17 13:17||   2020-04-17 13:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Young people have to LIVE their lives, too, what little time there is on this planet...6-12 months is a good chunk out of one's adult life.

Our society is just such a mess.
Posted by Clem 2020-04-17 13:22||   2020-04-17 13:22|| Front Page Top

#4 Well, I hope everyone is enjoying this and what's about to follow of a command economy. Take it real hard.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-04-17 13:54||   2020-04-17 13:54|| Front Page Top

#5 ^Nonsense. Did WWII produced a command economy? In fact, since the current POTUS is republican - who's going to support his introduction (assuming he tries) of command economy?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-17 14:26||   2020-04-17 14:26|| Front Page Top

#6 Well, there certainly wasn't a "free market" with rationing, etc.
Posted by Clem 2020-04-17 14:27||   2020-04-17 14:27|| Front Page Top

#7 During. During.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-17 14:36||   2020-04-17 14:36|| Front Page Top

#8 I wouldn't want impatient and paranoid conservative yahoos braving it in the face of the still powerful vector, just to ensure their liberties are not taken away. Especially when the liberals are safely ensconced in their homes.

As the article says, you have survived worse; and life will go on for everybody despite the economy taking a hit. Even if every friday night won't be pizza night, people won't be lying in hospitals and makeshift ICUs at the mercy of machines and experimental meds. If the virus hits the economy, you can rebuild it. If it tilts the demographic in favour of clever little buggers who screamed Trump was dirty but stayed indoors, in this crucial election year no less... think about it.
Posted by Dron66046 2020-04-17 14:56||   2020-04-17 14:56|| Front Page Top

#9 ^Nonsense. Did WWII produced a command economy?

Only look at Michigan to see the desire to arbitrarily classify what is important and what is not, what you can have access to and what you can not. That is a command economy.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-04-17 15:39||   2020-04-17 15:39|| Front Page Top

#10 Correct me if I'm wrong P2k, but it didn't start in the 50es (i.e., after the war). If fact, until the oil crisis of 1973, Detroit (IMO - I used to own Oldsmobile Delta 1972) made the best cars in the world.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-17 15:50||   2020-04-17 15:50|| Front Page Top

#11 ^ But that was in another country. And besides, the bitch is dead.
Posted by Lex 2020-04-17 16:10||   2020-04-17 16:10|| Front Page Top

#12 My point is that emergencies do not produce totalitarianism - not in USA. On the other hand, in times of emergency, "somebody has to drive".
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-17 16:14||   2020-04-17 16:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Totalitarians will take advantage of emergencies.

Not in USA? Never let a crises go to waste?

Going back to January living right now! is a really bad idea, likely to water hammer the medical piping and possibly blowing the whole system.

Now what is making people jumpy, and this goes for the my rights! aspect as well, is the finish line keeps getting moved.

Recovery goals are conspicuously absent in mass media. Add a lot of inconsistent directives - every apocalypse story every has a chapter about seeds, but seeds are non-essential? Declarations that Easter church gatherings are illegal is tough enough, but made by the people who have been consistent in their mocking of Cross Worshipers, and then seeing state troopers sicced on them? Makes you wonder if they went straight state trooper, or asked to sheriff to get involved and sheriff declined? Cell phone tracking without probably cause is still an issue even if 'unnecessary travel' is against the law. Am I guilty unless access to my phone data proves I'm innocent?

Yeah, people are getting a bit jumpy.
Posted by swksvolFF 2020-04-17 18:21||   2020-04-17 18:21|| Front Page Top

#14 swksvolFF, dear chap, compared to WWII (or the next world wide pandemic*) the current contretemps is not even a storm in the glass of water.

*You know how easy, and cheap, is to make biological weapons - especially if you don't care about it being controllable - because it's Allan's job.

You know that I think? I think some people don't handle confinement very well.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-17 18:31||   2020-04-17 18:31|| Front Page Top

#15 /\ You know that I think? I think some people don't handle confinement very well.

Unfortunately it would appear you are correct, and I am one of them. I am however, complying with the guidelines/directives, etc. There are worse situations under which one could be forced to live, I can assure you.
Posted by Besoeker 2020-04-17 19:21||   2020-04-17 19:21|| Front Page Top

#16 I agree, just pointing out what's in the road. Quarantine and distancing are historically proven acts to defend against outbreaks, and a good call here.

Lot of people not good at self quarantine, nigh self discipline, especially those young immortals. Mentioned in another tread; friend was on a turkey hunt, was four hours into it when a car from a problem county some 150 miles away pulled up to his hunt, got out, and started taking pictures of the turkeys and thus ruining the hunt.

I think they were lucky to only get an ass chewing, not only ruining the hunt but their county tag was identified, bringing their crap out here.

Also, if these city children go off one of our dirt roads, its my ass and friends who have to cut them out of their car, face to face cheek to cheek.
Posted by swksvolFF 2020-04-17 19:56||   2020-04-17 19:56|| Front Page Top

#17 I can handle confinement.
I can handle lots of burdens.
But I cannot handle being without an income for a year.

Let us work. Let us earn our bread. Let us provide for our families.
End this madness.
Posted by Lex 2020-04-17 22:15||   2020-04-17 22:15|| Front Page Top

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