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2020-04-05 Terror Networks

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Posted by John Frum 2020-04-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top
File under: Tablighi Jamaat

#1 From January to March, almost 8500 stayed in the Tablighi Jamaat Delhi mosque complex, sometimes 2000 at a time. Two thousand men eating from communal plates with their hands, with the plates being reused for the next group without washing. Two thousand men using a pool of water for wudu. Washing their feet, hands, arms, noses, mouths in the same pool of water with 2000 other men.

Posted by John Frum 2020-04-05 10:50|| 2020-04-05 10:50|| Front Page Top

#2 Some details, from a technical perspective.

It was born in Mewat, Haryana. The British said of the Meo muslims that they are uncivilizable, vile criminals - a criminal community worthy only of culling, for the security of the region. True, the british thought that about a lot of people back then, but in this case I'd agree.

The doctrines of the deoband it was born from were refined to sport an inherent taqiya, that they will be apolitical and shall not interfere in politics and matters of public import, like law. Some preachers went the extent of saying muslims must support the laws of the land and honour the kings.

But that was back when 'the king' was someone who could stopper a cannon's mouth with your arse and fire it, on a whim.

The TJ is rightly banned in Russia, central Asian States like Uzbekistan, and even in Soddy Arabia, primarily because it is a covertly criminal organization. Its budgetary needs are minuscule compared to other islamist ancillaries. It's funded by criminals in the global muslim community seeking to assuage their guilts; and provides training and teaching syllabi to other deobandi schools that are gateways into terrorism.

Overtly simple, just a bunch of monastic, ascetic looking men talking about 'the old ways', etc. But they create what psychologists would call an 'archetype dissonance' within the so-inclined individual and introduce a means to 'set things right' to minds they drive to near insanity with fake narratives and dogma. One can only understand their method of brainwash by closely witnessing a gestalt of their doctrines playing out on a sub-group - their attitudes, mating habits and diets changing over time. It is ... interesting. The actual influence it exerts is subtle but very strong. And legally unassailable. The Jamaát does not actively train terrorists or teach how to kill. It doesn't even preach about jihad or war. It only creates a worldview where killing the infidel becomes an imperative for the subject. A subject attends a jamaatis lecture for a week, then compulsively seeks training in one of the Markaz. These are not officially Tablighi. The Tablighi markaz are only for preachers to become brainwashers. The Markaz connects the subject to their extremist cousins who once were Jamaát students too, and they vet and recruit the subject. The Jamaát can claim it does nothing but point the individual to holy teachings, and any inferences he may draw from them is his own fault.

Our constitutional democracies, their compartmentalized enforcement arms, and the eunuch humanists posing as saints sitting in high offices today cannot begin to comprehend the power of loosely structured, decentralized entities like this. Of course, you don't have to understand something to kill it. Unfortunately, they can't do that either, because they've adopted constitutions that make mice out of men.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-04-05 16:22|| 2020-04-05 16:22|| Front Page Top

#3 But that was back when 'the king' was someone who could stopper a cannon's mouth with your arse and fire it, on a whim.

What about sewing them in pig skins?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-05 16:26|| 2020-04-05 16:26|| Front Page Top

#4 ^ I don't think we ever had hogs that big in Indian fauna; I always thought that was invented to cause them to hate the brits more. Maybe they sewed a lot of skins for it, sounds like a lot of elbow grease to waste on pure hate. Of course it may be true.

But the arse in the cannon thingy is definitely true. Happened to several rebel warlords and 'princes'.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-04-05 16:36|| 2020-04-05 16:36|| Front Page Top

#5 ^I know, I like Macdonald Frazer.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-05 16:44|| 2020-04-05 16:44|| Front Page Top

#6 ^ Eh ?

Posted by Dron66046 2020-04-05 16:51|| 2020-04-05 16:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Flashman in the Great Game

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-05 16:55|| 2020-04-05 16:55|| Front Page Top

#8 ^ One of GM Fraser's Flashman books (Flashman in the Great Game, I think) ends with our hero strapped to a cannon and escaping by the narrowest of chances.

Posted by Matt 2020-04-05 16:56|| 2020-04-05 16:56|| Front Page Top

#9 Not chance - Flash Harry's talent!

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-04-05 16:58|| 2020-04-05 16:58|| Front Page Top

#10 Oh. Rantburg often reminds me what an acutely uncultivated schlemiel I am.

I think I remember it being recommended by the academy librarian, the one who tried but failed to make me pick anything but Clive Barker or Graham Masterton. ☺

Posted by Dron66046 2020-04-05 17:05|| 2020-04-05 17:05|| Front Page Top

#11 Dron, I had no idea until today that there was something called the Tablighi Jamaat. The best recommendation I can give you about Flashman is that Flashman is the least politically correct character in all of literature. Fraser himself was a Scot who fought the Japanese in Burma.

Posted by Matt 2020-04-05 17:41|| 2020-04-05 17:41|| Front Page Top

#12 I had no idea until today that there was something called the Tablighi Jamaat.

Believe me, I wish I could un-know it somehow ☺.

Downloaded 'Royal Flash', will read it as soon as I'm done writing my own short story for a collection.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-04-05 18:25|| 2020-04-05 18:25|| Front Page Top

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