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2020-03-25 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Coronaplague Roundup
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Posted by Fred 2020-03-25 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [10800 views ]  Top

#1 Overall Percentage of Deaths World Wide 22.39% of Those Infected

Overall Percentage of Deaths Under Trump 1.4% of Those Infected

Phenomenal. No wonder MSM is going nuts against Trump.
Posted by Marilyn Uloling5420 2020-03-25 04:56||   2020-03-25 04:56|| Front Page Top

#2 Overall Percentage of Deaths World Wide 22.39% of Those Infected

Source?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-25 05:15||   2020-03-25 05:15|| Front Page Top

#3 "Overall Percentage of Deaths World Wide 22.39% of Those Infected"

Huh?
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 05:15||   2020-03-25 05:15|| Front Page Top

#4 Worldwide cases 423,670 deaths 18,923 = 22.38915605347989‬%
United States cases 55,330 deaths 804 = 1.453099584312308%
Posted by Marilyn Uloling5420 2020-03-25 05:43||   2020-03-25 05:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Link

Updates frequently.
Posted by Marilyn Uloling5420 2020-03-25 05:45||   2020-03-25 05:45|| Front Page Top

#6 Marilyn, darling, use a pocket calculator: 18,923/423,670 < 5%.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-25 05:47||   2020-03-25 05:47|| Front Page Top

#7 Ummm that is NOT how percentage calculations work... please call your math teacher.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 05:48||   2020-03-25 05:48|| Front Page Top

#8 oh
Posted by Marilyn Uloling5420 2020-03-25 05:50||   2020-03-25 05:50|| Front Page Top

#9 Divide deaths by cases.

U.S. currently has a death rate of approx. 1.5%
Germany has 0.5%

In NOT overwhelmed health systems, percentages will align in the next weeks.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 05:55||   2020-03-25 05:55|| Front Page Top

#10 Coronavirus may have infected half of UK population, experts believe

Better link than FTs and this correlates with my experience.

Fatality rate lower than Flu... Transmit-ability rate much higher though
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-03-25 05:57||   2020-03-25 05:57|| Front Page Top

#11 That's complete BS

https://www.icelandreview.com/society/icelands-extensive-covid-19-screenings-indicate-virus-is-not-yet-widespread/
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 06:01||   2020-03-25 06:01|| Front Page Top

#12 ^We have to distinguish between severe cases and positive test results, EC. I'd expect the test to have a lot of false-positive (probably responds to any coronavirus not just Covid).
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-25 06:05||   2020-03-25 06:05|| Front Page Top

#13 Germany does a lot of testing and results still overwhelmingly come up negative.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 06:11||   2020-03-25 06:11|| Front Page Top

#14 Iceland's numbers are very high but this is due to extensive testing, which means the results are much closer to the REAL infection rate.

That's why rates in countries like the U.S. sare shooting up. The real numbers are indeed higher, but this also mans the death rates will fall.

But no, not half of Britain's population already had it.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 06:15||   2020-03-25 06:15|| Front Page Top

#15 Britain announces Prince Charles has tested positive for Covid-19.

Camilla has tested positive for hoof-and-mouth
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-25 06:49||   2020-03-25 06:49|| Front Page Top

#16 ^For some reason that leaves me completely indifferent.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-25 06:53||   2020-03-25 06:53|| Front Page Top

#17 in USA yesterday

about 10k new cases, a slight decrease from the previous day

about 130 deaths, a slight increase from the previous day

NY State accounts for about half of all cases and about 35% of all deaths in USA.
Posted by lord garth 2020-03-25 07:24||   2020-03-25 07:24|| Front Page Top

#18 "I would love to have the country opened up and raring to go by Easter."

I expect the media will have fun with that, but I ask you: Would any sane person not like to see the country 'opened up' by Easter?

"Sane", so Dems and Never-Trumpers not included.
Posted by Bobby 2020-03-25 07:37||   2020-03-25 07:37|| Front Page Top

#19 Trump's approval rate is soaring because he's shown himself to be sensible, relatively calm, optimistic and flexible: exactly what's required of a leader in such times.

Gallup just posted results of their latest poll: 60% of the public support his handling of the COVID-19 challenge. All the other polls are showing the same change in public opinion. The media's lies and slander are backfiring on them, big time.

Pelosi has just completely folded. I'll bet this happened in part because a goodly portion of that 60% -- the real number of Trump supporters is probably slightly higher - gave Pelosi and the Democratic obstructionists an earful on Monday.
Posted by Lex 2020-03-25 07:48||   2020-03-25 07:48|| Front Page Top

#20 No expert I, but I have had a lot of Luck utilizing a denominator. Just a thought.
Posted by Cesare 2020-03-25 07:53||   2020-03-25 07:53|| Front Page Top

#21 I'm afraid Easter is not a realistic deadline.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 07:54||   2020-03-25 07:54|| Front Page Top

#22 EC, Easter is not a deadline it is a goal or wish.

It is a target to motivate the effort.

It's thinking positively.
Posted by AlanC 2020-03-25 08:06||   2020-03-25 08:06|| Front Page Top

#23 He's not a contractor, EC. His #1 job is the same priority that Reagan had in 1981 and that FDR and Churchill: to project optimism, to show relentless focus and positive energy, and to inspire hope.

He's trying to shift the narrative away from panic, despair and endless gloom toward a cautious optimism that we can pursue the dual-track approach that he and Gov. Cuomo are both beginning to recommend.

The man is doing exactly what should be done. Bless him.
Posted by Lex 2020-03-25 08:10||   2020-03-25 08:10|| Front Page Top

#24 Thinking positively is fine, but thinking unrealistically isn't. Even the Chinese with their radical measures didn't bring it down that fast.

OTOH I don't complain. One of our major U.S. clients paid his bill today.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 08:11||   2020-03-25 08:11|| Front Page Top

#25 No, but it's a hopeful one EC. I believe the hope is that the serious caseload will be declining by then. Plus we may have a treatment or two in circulation.

Probably other factors as well, but yes Mr. Trump will be excoriated for this statement as he was for shutting down travel to/from China in late January.

He's like any good leader should be, offer hope with actions never deviating from the path in fulfilling that hope.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2020-03-25 08:16||   2020-03-25 08:16|| Front Page Top

#26 I get that but late April would have been a better statement as Easter will fly in his face. It's just not possible to bring down the numbers that fast. They will still be increasing although hopefully much slower.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 08:23||   2020-03-25 08:23|| Front Page Top

#27 With warmer weather and increasing spring sunlight. In Minnesota tomorrow will be 3 minutes 11 seconds longer. Maybe a touch of UV disinfectant will help.
Posted by Woodrow 2020-03-25 08:28||   2020-03-25 08:28|| Front Page Top

#28 Oh pls EC lighten up. The man obviously chose to inject a wee bit of humor by recalling the Resurrection. Everyone gets it.

That sourpuss, prissy literal-mindedness you're recommending is exactly what this nation hated so much about Ronald Reagan's predecessor: "A crisis of confidence... in our nation... malaise..."

Trump is pulling another Reagan act. The press absolutely hated Reagan - until they saw how popular he was. The same thing is starting to happen now with DJT.

Get used to it. He's going to be re-elected.
Posted by Lex 2020-03-25 08:31||   2020-03-25 08:31|| Front Page Top

#29 Warmer weather might slow down the growth a bit but don't count on it. Numbers in Thailand are going up and it's freaking hot there now.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 08:32||   2020-03-25 08:32|| Front Page Top

#30 ^Depends on that extended chloroquine trials have shown, and - provided the results are positive - how much USA has/can produce in a hurry.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-25 08:32||   2020-03-25 08:32|| Front Page Top

#31 Ooops, #30 refers to #26
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-25 08:33||   2020-03-25 08:33|| Front Page Top

#32 Many things can happen this summer.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-03-25 08:46||   2020-03-25 08:46|| Front Page Top

#33 Maybe he's thinking Orthodox Easter. It's a week later than the western one.
Posted by m 2020-03-25 08:49||   2020-03-25 08:49|| Front Page Top

#34 Re the topmost tweet: If things are no worse, or actually improving in three weeks, there's no way the current measures will be tolerated for much additional time after that.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-03-25 09:23||   2020-03-25 09:23|| Front Page Top

#35 We need the economy going to pay for all this, too.

Can't pay taxes if you're sitting at home.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2020-03-25 09:37||   2020-03-25 09:37|| Front Page Top

#36 Big metropolitan areas are very dense in population so they are not very robust when it comes to epidemics, natural disasters, manmade disasters. Concentrations of populations of species move around to compensate.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2020-03-25 10:13||   2020-03-25 10:13|| Front Page Top

#37 There are people who don't want this to ever end. They are avidly self identifying.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-03-25 13:05||   2020-03-25 13:05|| Front Page Top

#38 Spain reported in for today:

cases up by over 5500 to over 47.5k
deaths up by over 440 to over 3.4k

over 3000 people in ICU

horrible

but the increases were not as great as yesterday's and there was a jump in recoveries (to 1.6k);

which may mean an inflection or it might mean that the counting infrastructure is getting less accurate or just a phenomenon of the way the reporting gets done
Posted by lord garth 2020-03-25 14:07||   2020-03-25 14:07|| Front Page Top

#39 but the increases were not as great as yesterday's

But, if you have 3000 ICU occupied, how many are left for new cases?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-25 14:28||   2020-03-25 14:28|| Front Page Top

#40 grom

good question; hospitals in USA are working to ramp up ICU by various means, including making new temporary units or by converting physical therapy spaces into ICU



probably they do this in Israel also
Posted by lord garth 2020-03-25 16:42||   2020-03-25 16:42|| Front Page Top

#41 ^Yea, IMI, but it'll take them several months.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-25 17:03||   2020-03-25 17:03|| Front Page Top

#42 Mods:

You may wish to include this "nugget" of hope:

NY doctor has remarkable results with HCQ – 500 patients, zero hospitalizations…

Citizen's Free Press - when you've had enough of Drudge...
Thanks for posting. It will appear in tomorrow's Burg, with appropriate crediting.
Posted by Anomalous Sources 2020-03-25 17:25||   2020-03-25 17:25|| Front Page Top

#43 I was talking to a woman here today on the phone. She has Sjogren's disease, a autoimmune disorder, and she takes hydroxychloroquine for Sjogrens. It is also used for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.

The point is, that there ought to be a good supply of this medicine in the U.S. Saw where a doctor in Kansas (Kansas State University) is using coronavirus.
Posted by JohnQC 2020-03-25 18:07||   2020-03-25 18:07|| Front Page Top

#44 #43 JQC there is a logical fault in your argument. They have enough, assuming steady supply flow, for people who needed it until now. There is something of an ethical conundrum about taking it from people like your correspondent and giving it to corona-patients. Don't you agree? So, you need to assure an increased supply.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-03-25 18:25||   2020-03-25 18:25|| Front Page Top

#45 My friend has Sjogren's, they don’t have enough, she can’t get her needed prescription filled and they don’t know when she will be able to refill it.

She blames Trump fo opening his mouth. She hates him.
Posted by Klem Kadiddlehopper 2020-03-25 18:33||   2020-03-25 18:33|| Front Page Top

#46 She blames Trump fo opening his mouth. She hates him.

Perhaps she should hate the CCP? If it was a vaccine she needed, but also hundreds of thousands others needed it, would it be Orange Man Bad as well? Pretty self-serving when you get down to it?
Posted by Frank G 2020-03-25 18:48||   2020-03-25 18:48|| Front Page Top

#47 There is, apparently, a current shortage of both of the quinine based drugs(worse shortage of the hydroxychloroquine in the USA.

This despite the big donation by Bayer. Other companies e.g., Mylan, Sandoz, Watson, Teva) have started to ramp up production. I don't have a handle on delivery schedule.

One of the problems is that it takes many dosages to complete the therapy. So, say, 1 million pills would only treat, say, 80,000 patients who have the disease. In addition, the experimental treatment requires other drugs which may be in short supply.

Another issue is that the dosage needed for prophylactic benefit is unknown and you need to give the pills to the front line health care people to avoid them contracting the disease (many health care workers have gotten the disease, some have died).

Posted by lord garth 2020-03-25 19:43||   2020-03-25 19:43|| Front Page Top

#48 Also, over 360k tests have now been done in the USA for the virus; about 100k beginning Sunday last.

Not sure the expected false Pos and false Neg. Also some people have had to be tested multiple times so the number of people tested will be fewer than 360k.
Posted by lord garth 2020-03-25 19:55||   2020-03-25 19:55|| Front Page Top

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