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2020-01-01 Home Front: Culture Wars

Ancient Greek lore no longer 'propaganda tool' and bullshi*

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Posted by Besoeker 2020-01-01 08:13|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 The origin of community property law? From Amazons to Germanic tribes to Spain and the new world.

Posted by BrujoTejano 2020-01-01 13:08|| 2020-01-01 13:08|| Front Page Top

#2 Greek provincial governor named Seleucus Nikator lost to Indian king Chandragupta Maurya (Sandrakottos), attempting to take part of the Punjab in 303 BC. To seal a peace treaty, Chandragupta gifted Seleucus around 500 war elepants in exchange for the Greek holdings in Afganistan, Seleucus' own daughter and some Greek women. Martial training - riding horses, wrestling, stealth, archery and swordsmanship was necessary training for female staff, queens and wives of officers in the Mauryan empire. Those Greek women became the all-female, special squad who guarded the king. Their exploits and records in archery and kills in skirmishes are written of in Megasthenes' accounts and by Indian historians. There's a book 'Badasses' too which mentions them.

It is believed Chandragupta relieved some of their service and sent them to Seleucus' successor, Antiochus I Soter to show him the value of women fighters. Fearful of the superior fighting skills of these women, he posted them somewhere in Boeotia where they later established their own matriarchal fiefdom. The tradition of women special forces could also have carried across to parts of Europe too as relations with the Mauryan Empire were stronger by 185 BC.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-01-01 13:48|| 2020-01-01 13:48|| Front Page Top

#3 Fascinating, Dron66046. But how/when did the Geeks come to have territory in Afghanistan?

Posted by trailing wife 2020-01-01 13:59|| 2020-01-01 13:59|| Front Page Top

#4 Alexander the great took it from Persia in 330 BC.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-01-01 14:06|| 2020-01-01 14:06|| Front Page Top

#5 Kandahar is in fact a contraction from Isikanderhar, Alexander in urdu is Sikander.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-01-01 14:08|| 2020-01-01 14:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Sorry, pashto.

Posted by Dron66046 2020-01-01 14:09|| 2020-01-01 14:09|| Front Page Top

#7 Daniel Dravot (with help from Peachy Carnehan) took it from them around 1880.

Daniel Dravot : In any place where they fight, a man who knows how to drill men can always be a King. We shall go to those parts and say to any King we find - "D'you want to vanquish your foes?' and we will show him how to drill men; for that we know better than anything else. Then we will subvert that King and seize his Throne and establish a Dynasty.

Posted by Lex 2020-01-01 14:39|| 2020-01-01 14:39|| Front Page Top

#8 Peachy Carnehan: ... one day they come and they took him down and they said it was a miracle he wasn't dead and then they set him down and they let him go. And Peachy come home, in about, a year. And the mountains they tried to fall on old Peachy, but he was quite safe because Daniel walked before him. And Daniel never let go of Peachy's hand and Peachy never let go of Daniel's head.

Rudyard Kipling: [aghast] His head?

Peachy Carnehan: You knew Danny, sir. Oh, yes, you knew, most Worshipful Brother.
[Takes something out of the sack he is carrying and places it on a table]

Peachy Carnehan: Daniel Dravot, Esquire. Well, he became king of Kafiristan, with a crown on his head and that's all there is to tell. I'll be on my way now sir, I've got urgent business in the south, I have to meet a man in Marwar Junction.

[Peachy limps out of the room. Kipling opens the sack and removes Daniel's decaying head with the golden crown still on his head]

Posted by Lex 2020-01-01 14:44|| 2020-01-01 14:44|| Front Page Top

Posted by Lex 2020-01-01 14:51|| 2020-01-01 14:51|| Front Page Top

#10 Perhaps the Amazons identified as men...

Posted by ruprecht 2020-01-01 18:47|| 2020-01-01 18:47|| Front Page Top

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