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2019-12-16 Home Front: Politix
Dershowitz: Supreme Court Just Destroyed 2nd Article of Impeachment
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Posted by Fred 2019-12-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [12 views ]  Top

#1 If I understand this right:

Democrats sent out subpoenas to government officials who ignored them. Then Democrats said, we're not going to the courts to force the witnesses to comply, we just name it "Obstruction of Congress" if they don't.

Dershowitz says it can't be obstruction as long as you haven't exhausted your legal possibilities. And the Supreme Court, by taking Trump's case, is signaling that you have these legal possibilities.

It makes sense. Whatever the government or Congress asks or forces you to do, you must have the possibility to legally challenge this.

Any subpoena can be challenged in court before you have to produce anything.

The problem I have with Dershowitz is this: You can't just ignore a subpoena, you must challenge it. If you don't, you could be held in contempt of court.

It will be interesting to see whether this also applies to subpoenas issued by Congress. If not, any investigation will just be a hell of a lot more difficult, because it could take years before a witness can be forced to appear before Congress and testify.


Posted by European Conservative 2019-12-16 00:26||   2019-12-16 00:26|| Front Page Top

#2 ...see AG Eric Holder, Fast and Furious, non-compliance with Congressional investigation. Anybody go to jail? /rhet question
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-12-16 07:09||   2019-12-16 07:09|| Front Page Top

#3 The penalty for ignoring a Congressional subpoena is a misdemeanor which would require a separate intervention by DOJ or a federal DA-- which almost never happens in reality.

People ignore Congressional subpoenas all the time. This is because it's just a dead-letter, minor feature of the power-sharing relationship between Congress and the other government branches.
Posted by Lex 2019-12-16 07:31||   2019-12-16 07:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Will these Congressional scofflaws be punished for their transgressions? Although, I think they should be slapped hard, it probably won't happen judging from the past.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-12-16 07:51||   2019-12-16 07:51|| Front Page Top

#5 we just name it "Obstruction of Congress" if they don't.

Euro conserve: The Dems say 'obstruction of Congress'; however, it is just one chamber of the two Houses of Congress who make this claim--the radical left-wing branch.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-12-16 07:55||   2019-12-16 07:55|| Front Page Top

#6 How it is supposed to go, since no one branch of our government has power over the other, is congress sends out subpoenas. If the Executive branch ignores or disputes them, Congress is supposed to go to the judicial branch where the matter can be decided.

The demoncrats NEVER went to the courts and filed impeachment over "obstruction". Dershowitz is right. They didn't follow the process and now are doing the very thing the other article states Trump did. Abuse of power.
Posted by DarthVader 2019-12-16 08:50||   2019-12-16 08:50|| Front Page Top

#7 Their projection is breathtaking. Belongs in the manual of psychiatric disorders.
Posted by Lex 2019-12-16 09:08||   2019-12-16 09:08|| Front Page Top

#8 You people should know by now not to confuse Democrats with facts.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-12-16 11:37||   2019-12-16 11:37|| Front Page Top

#9 A federal judge is considering a last-minute effort to prevent Georgia election officials from canceling more than 120,000 inactive voters Monday night.

U.S. District Judge Steve Jones called a hearing Monday on a request from Fair Fight Action, an organization suing the state over voting rights, to halt the planned voter registration cancellation.

A Georgia law, known as “use it or lose it,” allows registrations to be canceled after voters fail to participate in elections for several years.

“Georgians should not lose their right to vote simply because they have not expressed that right in recent elections,” said Fair Fight Action CEO Lauren Groh-Wargo. “Georgia’s practice of removing voters who have declined to participate in recent elections violates the United States Constitution.”

The secretary of state’s office declined to comment
Posted by Beavis 2019-12-16 14:04||   2019-12-16 14:04|| Front Page Top

#10 "and they're too stupid or dead to re-register"
Posted by Frank G 2019-12-16 14:32||   2019-12-16 14:32|| Front Page Top

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