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2019-12-15 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Greta Thunberg Says We Will ‘Put World Leaders Against the Wall’
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Posted by Fred 2019-12-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [12 views ]  Top

#1 Are Greta's parents making money off of this charade?
Posted by Lex 2019-12-15 00:59||   2019-12-15 00:59|| Front Page Top

#2 G*d, I'm so tired of little shits thinking they're masters of the universe.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-15 01:55||   2019-12-15 01:55|| Front Page Top

#3 Parents are main reason for her beliefs. Antifa parents;
Posted by Dale 2019-12-15 06:13||   2019-12-15 06:13|| Front Page Top

#4 She did a Beto (grab all guns) O'Rourke and let the mask drop to reveal all too clear the program. Now the damage control time.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-12-15 07:06||   2019-12-15 07:06|| Front Page Top

#5 You and whose Army, ya fuckin' pipsqueak? Siddown and shaddup!
Posted by Raj 2019-12-15 07:28||   2019-12-15 07:28|| Front Page Top

#6 In lighter vein...

Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-15 07:43||   2019-12-15 07:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Judging from the parents, her low-grade autism is understandable. What I want to know is whose lips are moving when she speaks? Mummy and Daddy couldn't organize this goat rope. Who's fronting the money and publicity? Wouldn't be surprised to see our favorite Ex-Nazi lurking behind the curtain.
Posted by Mercutio 2019-12-15 07:54||   2019-12-15 07:54|| Front Page Top

#8 A pic Is worth a thousand words.
Posted by Mercutio 2019-12-15 07:57||   2019-12-15 07:57|| Front Page Top

#9 LOL, Mercutio.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-15 08:20||   2019-12-15 08:20|| Front Page Top

#10 What I want to know is whose lips are moving when she speaks ?

Most interesting question, Mercutio. My first guess would be she and her family are just winging it from the beginning. But that momentum would have fizzled out by now.

The second possibility ? One may find on scrutiny that some professional psychiatrists, and insane academics backed by certain foundations introduced the concept of 'channeling trauma into tantrum' to a fragile mind. Seeing the activism potential in her OCD and encouraging her anger issues. She cannot have encountered the level of earth-killing pollution or climate antics in her corner of the globe. Someone made her watch videos, see pictures and insidiously suggested the imperative of 'saving the earth' to her for years. They made sure to be there with the camera when she threw her first tantrum at the 'climate emergency'. It probably won local attention, and on social media. And a pocket rocket for the liberal, disobedience generation, an icon of activism was born.

The end here is not to have another wide-eyed environmentalist tree-hugger. That is part of the means. The end is to sow the seeds of activism in the youngest subjects, recruit from very early on. Catch 'em young, so to speak.

'No to education, till our demands are met !'

There's much history behind this view.

In China, and before that the USSR, military psychologists identified easily suggestible subjects with borderline compulsive issues. The study of OCD had not been completed yet, but the commies treated it as a 'trait', useful in some occupations. They put them to jobs in propaganda and internal vigilance for the commies. The common factor was the obsessive, savant streak they brought to their tasks. You didn't have to oversee the subject, he/she did the job spectacularly well and with a fervor greater than faith. All you had to do was implant the absolute necessity in the young mind to convince crowds, or catch probable dissidents. The OCD you created would do the rest.

I know this because I studied the process. I wrote a paper on how to use it on weak-brained muslims to implode their revolutionary schools from within. Another of my greatest hits, naturally it was thrown in the bin.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-15 08:37||   2019-12-15 08:37|| Front Page Top

#11 Talk about white privilege. She is the embodiment of it.
Posted by DarthVader 2019-12-15 08:47||   2019-12-15 08:47|| Front Page Top

#12 We? Means you and?????

This needs to be tracked down and the motivators eliminated.
Posted by AlanC 2019-12-15 12:08||   2019-12-15 12:08|| Front Page Top

#13 Her mannerisms and tone when she gives her "speeches" reminds me ALOT of Hitler when he spoke.
Posted by chris 2019-12-15 12:15||   2019-12-15 12:15|| Front Page Top

#14 #13 yes. Practice in front of a mirror.
Posted by Dale 2019-12-15 13:00||   2019-12-15 13:00|| Front Page Top

#15 Someone made her watch videos, see pictures and insidiously suggested the imperative of 'saving the earth' to her for years.

Her schoolteachers from the age of eight, Dron66046. She talks about it in her TEDtalk.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-12-15 14:59||   2019-12-15 14:59|| Front Page Top

#16 " and the accepted translation means executions "

I've explained yesterday that this is NOT the accepted translation here. Greta used a Swedish expression in English which just means: "Hold someone accountable".

Just like "putting someone in the hot seat" doesn't mean that you intend to burn someone.

Maybe we just shouldn't take everything seriously what she says. She's a teen for God sake.

Posted by European Conservative 2019-12-15 15:11||   2019-12-15 15:11|| Front Page Top

#17 I know this because I studied the process. I wrote a paper on how to use it on weak-brained muslims to implode their revolutionary schools from within. Another of my greatest hits, naturally it was thrown in the bin.

Very interesting. Care to list a few bullet points from the paper?
Posted by Snusotle the Lesser4227 2019-12-15 15:15||   2019-12-15 15:15|| Front Page Top

#18 She's a teen for God sake.

All the monsters of history were teens at some time.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-15 15:18||   2019-12-15 15:18|| Front Page Top

#19 Parents are main reason for her beliefs. Antifa parents;

Dale, your site is aimed at conspiracy theorists and Jew haters. Please find something better.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-12-15 15:22||   2019-12-15 15:22|| Front Page Top

#20 Agree that our focus needs to be on the girl's cynical and greedy parents.
Posted by Lex 2019-12-15 15:23||   2019-12-15 15:23|| Front Page Top

#21 Greta Gwynplaine, disfigured by corrupt adults, with a permanent scowl instead of a smile.

Posted by Lex 2019-12-15 15:35||   2019-12-15 15:35|| Front Page Top

#22 La Fille Qui Se Renfrogne
Posted by Lex 2019-12-15 15:37||   2019-12-15 15:37|| Front Page Top

#23 All the monsters of history were teens at some time.


Hitler Jugend

As German casualties escalated with the combination of Operation Bagration and the Lvov-Sandomierz Operation in the east, and Operation Cobra in the west, members of the Hitlerjugend were recruited at ever younger ages. By 1945, the Volkssturm was commonly drafting 12-year-old Hitler Youth members into its ranks. During the Battle of Berlin, Axmann's Hitler Youth formed a major part of the last line of German defense, and were reportedly among the fiercest fighters. Although the city commander, General Helmuth Weidling, ordered Axmann to disband the Hitler Youth combat formations, in the confusion this order was never carried out. The remnants of the youth brigade took heavy casualties from the advancing Russian forces; only two survived. - wiki

Posted by Procopius2k 2019-12-15 16:18||   2019-12-15 16:18|| Front Page Top

#24 I was a teen, too. With socialist ideas.
They didn't survive confrontation with reality.
Posted by European Conservative 2019-12-15 16:28||   2019-12-15 16:28|| Front Page Top

#25  She's a teen for God sake.

No, she isn't. OK, as an individual, she is a kid. But as the spokesdroid for a movemnt, she is a stalking horse for some people with bad intentions.

While this may be a quaint expression in Swedish, in terms of political movements it has a definite and different meaning altogether. In the US, re-education means teaching laid-off factory workers new skills. For the Chinese Red Guards, many in their teens, re-education meant something quite different.
Posted by SteveS 2019-12-15 16:35||   2019-12-15 16:35|| Front Page Top

#26 Of course you all had an impeccable command of a foreign language at 16.
Posted by European Conservative 2019-12-15 17:03||   2019-12-15 17:03|| Front Page Top

#27 Nuts!
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-12-15 17:16||   2019-12-15 17:16|| Front Page Top

#28 Faire un oeuf / Fair enough, EC.

What would you say to her parents, if you could give them some friendly advice?
Posted by Lex 2019-12-15 17:18||   2019-12-15 17:18|| Front Page Top

#29  Of course you all had an impeccable command of a foreign language at 16.

Sorry if I was unclear. It's not about language skills. It is about using a child as a spokesperson to give your movement deniability. "We want to save the planet" - Listen to Greta. She speaks with the moral authority and innocence of a child. "We want to shut down the global economy and if you don't give in, we'll threaten violence" - Greta is just a child, you know she isn't serious. It's quite a clever ploy, really.

We saw basically the same move with late-night comedians during the BushHitler era, particularly with John Stewart. It came to be known as "Clown nose on/Clown nose off". I'm a serious political commentator/hey, I'm just a comedian.

Over the years, I've watched this rotten nonsense go from some bad science to Global Warming to Climate Change to Climate Emergency. At first it was a way to fish for grant money, then a political power grab. Now it's global hysteria. The fact that the craziness is based on some corrupt data and bad computer models has been lost in the noise and shouting. I'm getting tired of it.
Posted by SteveS 2019-12-15 17:40||   2019-12-15 17:40|| Front Page Top

#30 "Nuts." Awesome. And what everyone else said. But I clicked "Comment" because I thought EC deserved to hear that at least one American immediately knew that the pearl-clutching headlines about the "wall" quote had to be bullshit. And that's without enough Swedish to order meatballs at Ikea.
Posted by Large Munster1307 2019-12-15 17:58||   2019-12-15 17:58|| Front Page Top

#31 SteveS

It is about using a child as a spokesperson to give your movement deniability.

That's what I have been saying all the time. Don't attack the kid, attack the (adult) abusers.

All I can say is this: If someone had given me the opportunity to voice my opinions worldwide when I was 16, with a speech at the UN and all that, hell I would have been delighted.

A few years later I'd have been quite embarrassed by what I would probably have said.

Greta certainly believes what she says. That makes her "authentic". Her "fanatism", or may I rather say her obsession with one single issue is certainly conditioned by her Asperger syndrome. This is what made her sit for a year in front of the Swedish Parliament, and this is what made her go on that absurd Atlantic crossing by boat (never mind that other people had to FLY to the U.S. because of her).

She will soon fade away.
Posted by European Conservative 2019-12-15 18:54||   2019-12-15 18:54|| Front Page Top

#32 @Lex
What would you say to her parents, if you could give them some friendly advice?

I'm afraid the advice wouldn't be very friendly. From what I have learned about Greta's youth her parents failed miserably. And I guess now there is lots of money to be made with a child who actually needs professional help, not a forum at the United Nations.
Posted by European Conservative 2019-12-15 18:58||   2019-12-15 18:58|| Front Page Top

#33 She will soon fade away.
Just like David Miles Hogg on gun-control they'll drag her out when they need the young voice of moral authority on her issue.

I suspect that before long we'll see a young teen whose life was saved by abortion somehow, and one saved from drowning by hard working illegal aliens as they fill out the membership of the lefty legion of doom.
Posted by ruprecht 2019-12-15 20:55||   2019-12-15 20:55|| Front Page Top

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