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2019-11-30 Home Front: Culture Wars
Alabama's Supreme Court Rules Confederate Monuments Can't Be Removed, Relocated, or Hidden. What's the Proper Handling of the Civil War?
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-30 04:26|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 What's the Proper Handling of the Civil War?

...Oh, I dunno - intelligent, reasoned discussion based on solid historical knowledge of where both sides were coming from?

Nah, that'd never work.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2019-11-30 06:01||   2019-11-30 06:01|| Front Page Top

#2 What's the Proper Handling of the Civil War?

Yes indeed, cheap labor has a significant downside. In a simple, four word phrase:

"Pick your own cotton."
Posted by Besoeker 2019-11-30 06:08||   2019-11-30 06:08|| Front Page Top

#3 We don't need debate. We've already been told, and shown, the right way to handle it -- by General Grant at Appomattox, by Brevet Major General Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain three days later, by Grant again decades later in his Memoirs, and by President Lincoln in his Second Inaugural Address and in his letters.

If ours is a great nation, then it can't have two histories.
We are one nation, or we are not a nation at all.
Either we atoned for the sin of slavery with 600,000 dead, or we did not atone for it.
Either the war was pointless butchery, or it was fought with honor and honorably settled the issue of whether slavery was compatible with American self-government.
Either all Americans can share in this history, or there is no coherent national history to speak of.

Those who would tear down these statues are pissing on our nation's greatest and most profound memories -- our Homeric period.

Piss on the Civil War, and you piss on our nation's heritage and sacred collective memory.

Piss off.
Posted by Lex 2019-11-30 06:36||   2019-11-30 06:36|| Front Page Top

#4 It's the commies pushing for the zero year by wiping history from the books. You can not learn from the past if you have none.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-11-30 06:40||   2019-11-30 06:40|| Front Page Top

#5 Real history is the biggest enemy social reformers with a vision of perfect society have.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-30 06:42||   2019-11-30 06:42|| Front Page Top

#6 #1 - that's Crazee Talk
Posted by Frank G 2019-11-30 07:56||   2019-11-30 07:56|| Front Page Top

#7 If you 'cancel' the American Civil War by some new revisionist narrative, then it's time to put blacks in chains again ?
Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-30 09:56||   2019-11-30 09:56|| Front Page Top

#8 And there's also the 1913 reenactment of Gettysburg, with old Confederate veterans slowly charging equally old Union veterans, resulting in handshakes, hugs, and tears all around. It's an odd thing that Union men who fought the Confederates in truly awful combat had more respect for them than people whose only risk is that the barista may get their order wrong.
Posted by Matt 2019-11-30 11:16||   2019-11-30 11:16|| Front Page Top

#9 What the general public doesn’t understand is that as soon as the radicals destroy any memory of Confederate memorials, they will start in on Union memorials as symbols of white supremacy, etc. So far, my home county, Fannin, still has a magnificent 2nd place trophy on the courthouse square.
Posted by BrujoTejano  2019-11-30 15:04||   2019-11-30 15:04|| Front Page Top

#10 ^ They've already started going after Washington and Jefferson. Lincoln will be next.

These people are deranged.
Posted by Lex 2019-11-30 21:22||   2019-11-30 21:22|| Front Page Top

#11 If you 'cancel' the American Civil War by some new revisionist narrative, then it's time to put blacks in chains again ?

Well the democrats do love their slaves. So this would be a benefit for them. But I don't think it would be just blacks this time but anyone who doesn't toe the line or 'owes too much social justice debt'.
Posted by CrazyFool 2019-11-30 21:37||   2019-11-30 21:37|| Front Page Top

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