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2019-10-14 The Grand Turk
Turkey’s invasion a trigger for ruinous regional war
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Posted by Fred 2019-10-14 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [454 views ]  Top
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#1 As distinct from the peace MM had until now?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-10-14 04:12||   2019-10-14 04:12|| Front Page Top

#2 "the American abdication of responsibility in eastern Syria"

What the fuck? WHAT responsibility? We have NO responsibility! Who asked us to do that? Nobody. It has zero support among the American people and does not benefit us one iota.

It's beyond obvious that these people have an entirely warped worldview that is unsupported by any evidence. In their book, America pays for everything and that's just how it is. Nobody has ever stopped to think about if it's a good idea that benefits Americans.

We're self sufficient in oil now. Things have changed. It's not the Carter administration any more.
Posted by Herb McCoy  2019-10-14 04:53||   2019-10-14 04:53|| Front Page Top

#3 Turkey’s blundering intervention may thus be the straw that breaks the camel’s back — collapsing the regional house of cards and precipitating a war to make earlier conflict phases in the Syrian slaughterhouse look like child’s play.

A potential outcome the Orange Man may have already foreseen. Hopefully, his recent actions will enable us to sit this one out.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-10-14 05:14||   2019-10-14 05:14|| Front Page Top

#4 sit this one out

Doubtful. US has thousands of hostages in Turkey.
Posted by Whavimp Grath4899 2019-10-14 05:31||   2019-10-14 05:31|| Front Page Top

#5 If Trump is serious about extricating America from the world, then bring our troops and businesses home and let the outside find a new power balance.
Posted by Whavimp Grath4899 2019-10-14 05:37||   2019-10-14 05:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Ref #4: sit this one out
Doubtful. US has thousands of hostages in Turkey.


Turkey's Incirlik air base is Erdogan's insurance policy.

"Americans, we hate you. Oh, the Germans are here...Hello Americans."
~ Robin Williams
Posted by Besoeker 2019-10-14 05:59||   2019-10-14 05:59|| Front Page Top

#7 What is our interest in Syria?
[crickets]
Anyone?
Bueller??
Posted by Lex 2019-10-14 08:58||   2019-10-14 08:58|| Front Page Top

#8 ...another gift from the previous administration.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-10-14 09:13||   2019-10-14 09:13|| Front Page Top

#9 So... we're there to oppose Syria and Russia, which oppose ISIS, and also to oppose ISIS, who oppose ... Syria and Russia, and also to oppose Turkey, who opposes, kinda sorta, some of the above

Getting involved in Syria now makes about as much sense as it would have to intervene in the Crimean War in 1854 or one of the Turkish-Russian wars.

Madness.

Trump's the only sane person in Washington.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-14 09:24||   2019-10-14 09:24|| Front Page Top

#10 I notice the profound policy wonks of Code Pink have been uncharacteristically silent.
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-10-14 10:19||   2019-10-14 10:19|| Front Page Top

#11 Looks like the DS wants to create a mire for Trump. I'm with Trump on this one. If this spills over into Israel, continue to support Israel, they are the only democracy over there.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-10-14 11:56||   2019-10-14 11:56|| Front Page Top

#12 Drudge headline is that the Turks are holding Incirlik and the "50 tactical nukes" there hostage. Anyone have an idea if we were dumb enough to actually leave them there after the last threatening event?
Posted by NoMoreBS 2019-10-14 18:42||   2019-10-14 18:42|| Front Page Top

#13 Why not just kick Turkey out of NATO for the whole thing ? Be better than sanctions. I suppose the nukes could all be disarmed by a DoD contingent.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-14 18:49||   2019-10-14 18:49|| Front Page Top

#14 Word from some (who knew better than me) were that they were evacuated long ago
Posted by Frank G 2019-10-14 20:03||   2019-10-14 20:03|| Front Page Top

#15 PS Drudge has turned to a Dem/Leftist Whore. Better to hit Rantingly.com
Posted by Frank G 2019-10-14 20:05||   2019-10-14 20:05|| Front Page Top

#16 Better to hit Rantingly.com

Agreed. I’ve been checking both just about every day for comparison purposes, and almost all of the articles I click are on Rantingly. Also, I am much calmer now that the news site matches my understanding of current events.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-10-14 20:33||   2019-10-14 20:33|| Front Page Top

#17 Anyone have an idea if we were dumb enough to actually leave them there after the last threatening event?

Apparently so.
With Turkey’s invasion of Syria, concerns mount over nukes at Incirlik
The Air Force on Monday said it has made no changes to daily operations at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey even as Turkish forces continue to push into Syrian territory, which has prompted U.S. forces to pull back.

But concerns are growing over the reported presence of U.S. nuclear weapons at Incirlik, believed to be about 50 B61 gravity bombs. The New York Times on Monday reported that officials from the State and Energy departments over the weekend reviewed plans for evacuating the nuclear weapons there.
...
A senior official reportedly told the Times that the weapons “were now essentially [Turkish President Recep] Erdogan’s hostages” since removing the weapons would effectively spell the end of America’s alliance with Turkey, but keeping them there would leave them vulnerable.
Posted by Whavimp Grath4899 2019-10-14 20:54||   2019-10-14 20:54|| Front Page Top

#18 Another vote for Rantingly.com
Also:
- realclearpolitics.com
- amgreatness.com
- legalinsurrection.com
- quillette.com
- spectator.org
- aldaily.com
Posted by Lex 2019-10-14 21:47||   2019-10-14 21:47|| Front Page Top

#19 Also: Manhattan Institute's City Journal
Posted by Lex 2019-10-14 21:51||   2019-10-14 21:51|| Front Page Top

#20 Sometimes I think, those in the DS who want us to leave a trip-wire force of 50-100 troops over there are hoping for another Benghazi.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-10-14 23:18||   2019-10-14 23:18|| Front Page Top

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