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How Many Non-Citizens Vote in U.S. Elections?

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-11-15 07:30|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top

#1 If a dead person doesnt pay their death tax, they shouldnt vote!

Posted by Ebbavirt Clunk4147 2018-11-15 07:41|| 2018-11-15 07:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Oops wrong voter category. Mis-read da headline.

Posted by Ebbavirt Clunk4147 2018-11-15 07:44|| 2018-11-15 07:44|| Front Page Top

#3 Mucho Grande

Posted by airandee 2018-11-15 11:12|| 2018-11-15 11:12|| Front Page Top

#4 The thing I don't understand about voter fraud. I read that you can get 5 years for it. Why would you risk so much for so little gain?

Posted by European Conservative 2018-11-15 11:17|| 2018-11-15 11:17|| Front Page Top

#5 because it's infrequently punished

Posted by Frank G 2018-11-15 11:44|| 2018-11-15 11:44|| Front Page Top

#6 Would you steal a penny if the chances you get caught were slim but if you're caught you get 5 years?

Posted by European Conservative 2018-11-15 11:54|| 2018-11-15 11:54|| Front Page Top

#7 A single instance of vote fraud might count as little gain. Enough vote fraud to throw an election is quite another story.

Posted by SteveS 2018-11-15 11:56|| 2018-11-15 11:56|| Front Page Top

#8 Yes but every single person takes that risk. I wouldn't risk 5 years in jail if I could single-handed swing an election.

And voter fraud in California? What's the point?

Posted by European Conservative 2018-11-15 14:39|| 2018-11-15 14:39|| Front Page Top

#9 European Conservative, you might be surprised about California. If you look at voting on a county-by-county level you'll see it is a very red state with a blue coast. I believe rampant voter fraud has made it a far bluer state than the voters would have.

Posted by rjschwarz 2018-11-15 15:00|| 2018-11-15 15:00|| Front Page Top

#10 I believe rampant voter fraud has made it a far bluer state than the voters would have.

Might also explain Bath House Barry's surprise win back in 2008.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-11-15 15:03|| 2018-11-15 15:03|| Front Page Top

#11 I must say the U.S. system puzzles me, because in Germany voting is really a straightforward thing. Of course every German has a registered main domicile.

One month before the election, I get a letter from the city telling me where I'm registered to vote. It's a nearby place, I bring the notification, my ID, get handed the ballot, go to a cabin, vote, go back, put my vote in the box under supervision. That's that. Has never taken me more than 10 minutes.

I cannot understand why Democrats are against a state issued photo ID which includes your citizenship. I mean, you can't go to a post office to retrieve a package without showing proper ID.

I understand that Americans do not want a national ID, but it would solve many problems. Start with putting citizenship (or lawful residence status) on every driving license.

Posted by European Conservative 2018-11-15 15:43|| 2018-11-15 15:43|| Front Page Top

#12 Something to be said for "Ihre Papiere bitte, Ihre Papiere."

The trains, they also run on time.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-11-15 15:55|| 2018-11-15 15:55|| Front Page Top

#13 The trains, they also run on time.

I think you haven't been in Germany for a while :-)

Posted by European Conservative 2018-11-15 15:59|| 2018-11-15 15:59|| Front Page Top

#14 In California in 2016 nobody checked my ID when I voted. Anyone could have said they were me and voted for me. With only 50% of people bothering to vote the odds are good nobody would find out. If anyone found a double-ballot they'd have to determine which was real and which wasn't, a process I've never heard happening in California. They've made it very easy to steal elections if they wanted to.

Posted by rjschwarz 2018-11-15 16:13|| 2018-11-15 16:13|| Front Page Top

#15 @rjschwarz

How does that work? I suppose you are registered to vote at a certain place which has you on their list.

So if another person votes "for you", he/she must know that your name is on the list, claim he/she's you. What if you turned up 10 minutes later?

Sound like an enormous risk or am I missing something?

Posted by European Conservative 2018-11-15 16:34|| 2018-11-15 16:34|| Front Page Top

#16 We have 1 year + 11-1/2 months to get this straightened out.

If we,can't, there may be blood in the streets.

Posted by Anomalous Sources 2018-11-15 20:07|| 2018-11-15 20:07|| Front Page Top

#17 They do a cursory check - asking for address, especially if multiple family members (by last name) are registered to vote at different addresses, but Voter ID is raaaaycissss per the Democrats

Posted by Frank G 2018-11-15 20:16|| 2018-11-15 20:16|| Front Page Top

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