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2018-04-27 Economy
If Solar And Wind Are So Cheap Why Are Energy Prices Rising?
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Posted by Besoeker 2018-04-27 07:41|| || Front Page|| [11136 views ]  Top

#1 So, why?

Um, because we're being lied to again?
Posted by Raj 2018-04-27 07:52||   2018-04-27 07:52|| Front Page Top

#2 The alternative energy people flat-out lie about the ability of solar and wind to provide baseline power and demand that oil and gas and coal fill in the gaps at the same price as if they were used to provide baseline power, which they can't, because for them providing intermittent power is much more expensive on a capital basis. Thus it both becomes more expensive and the firms doing it are financially strapped. They have to keep coal plants online in Pennsylvania to keep everyone from freezing to death in New England during the winter when there are low wind and sun generation periods but the amortization and duty cycle is all screwed up. The greenies won't say this but they see that as a feature, because they want to screw actual working people out of jobs. They're more or less the ideological descendants of the neo-confucians who screwed up China so bad they spent nearly a millenium overrun by either Europeans, Japanese, or homeless people Mongolian Nomads from Central Asia.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2018-04-27 09:09||   2018-04-27 09:09|| Front Page Top

#3 "The alternative energy people flat-out lie" is all that's needed to be said!

It's debatable whether green wind totems will make enough energy to replace that used to construct and place it. Let alone work out with the time value of money costed into it.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2018-04-27 09:38||   2018-04-27 09:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Anyone notice that the merchant marine gave up sailing ships long ago?
Posted by Procopius2k 2018-04-27 10:08||   2018-04-27 10:08|| Front Page Top

#5 But ... but ... I see sailboats!
Posted by gorb 2018-04-27 11:50||   2018-04-27 11:50|| Front Page Top

#6 The cost of Chinese tech (and it's all chinese tech) used in energy producing devices keeps rising although cost of labor and raw material production is fixed.
Posted by Skidmark 2018-04-27 12:17||   2018-04-27 12:17|| Front Page Top

#7 Solar and wind might be efficient enough to take ones house off the grid with a bit to spare, the solar pavement I saw might be something to consider, but wind farms powering everything is just daft.
Posted by rjschwarz 2018-04-27 12:19||   2018-04-27 12:19|| Front Page Top

#8 Take care of your basic A/C energy needs through creative architecture and the next hurdle is the common refrigerator/freezer. Fix those and the rest is easy easier workable.
Want power tools, welll... Get a waterwheel?
Posted by magpie 2018-04-27 13:35||   2018-04-27 13:35|| Front Page Top

#9 They have to keep coal plants online in Pennsylvania to keep everyone from freezing to death in New England during the winter because the stupid New England NIMBYists refuse to have natural gas pipelines built in their precious territory from the gas-abundant states west of them.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2018-04-27 14:23||   2018-04-27 14:23|| Front Page Top

#10 They have to pay for more Ice Age Global Warming Man Made Global Warming Climate Change Climate Adjustment (WHEW!) testing.
Posted by Roth LaDoad 2018-04-27 14:30||   2018-04-27 14:30|| Front Page Top

#11 The use of solar and wind lead to price increases because: Dark and Suck are increasing.
Posted by ed in texas 2018-04-27 14:34||   2018-04-27 14:34|| Front Page Top

#12 but wind farms powering everything is just daft.

Draft, RJ...draft.
Posted by Skidmark 2018-04-27 14:50||   2018-04-27 14:50|| Front Page Top

#13 All their ideas are stupid/

How Solar And Wind Are Causing Electricity Prices To Skyrocket
Posted by newc 2018-04-27 15:12||   2018-04-27 15:12|| Front Page Top

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